@@Nemean-se5k no lol, companies have been posting fake job listings in an active effort to gaslight their existing employees into thinking they might actually get some relief on their overburdened job duties. Several companies have admitted to it even
This remind me about a story of a guy who wrote a specific program. He applied to work for a company that used the program he made, only to be told he didnt have enough experience lol
Something close to this happened to me few years ago. I was working as a contractor to a very big bad company that makes batteries and TVs and built a new integration between SAP and their e-commerce, I've also built an app for ease of use and reporting on such integration's performance. Things go really bad and I leave the company that actually employs me, which prompts my leave from the big company as well. 1 year later I receive an e-mail where HR presents themselves and tell me that I might be a good fit and if I want to talk, I say yes, in the interview they ask about a ton of technical stuff that I know about and ask about my experience with SAP and the e-commerce platform they use. The HR girl is thrilled to hear me, then, on the next phase I get to talk to the tech lead of the current team, he makes some reasonable questions and I answer them correctly (I know the answers are correct because I wrote the goddamn code), he says that I might be a good programmer, but he's looking for someone who would integrate SAP and their e-commerce and he doesn't think that I would be capable of that. I don't try to discuss much since I was already employed and would only get back there for a heap of money. 1 year later I see the guy (the tech lead) posting on LinkedIn that he's looking for a job, turns out he got laid off and the whole 'e-commerce development team' got outsourced. The company contracted to handle the e-commerce was so bad the code for the integration got leaked, only minor changes to it, but these changes made a world of difference: by pure laziness, someone had hardcoded passwords for both SAP and the e-commerce platform and when the code leaked, these keys also leaked, it never went to public, but with SAP and e-commerce access, a bad actor could easily have access to full names, e-mails, addresses and full credit card information for each customer. Turns out I dodged various bullets.
Apparently this is common because HR writes those job postings and handles the interviews, and they simply aren't consulting with anyone who knows anything about tech
It's extremely common, and easy to find, too. Any time a new buzzword tech stack releases, you can look through job postings and half of them will be requiring 3-5 years in the brand new tech. HR just has "3-5 years experience" as their default, and have no awareness of if that is even possible since they know nothing about technology and have no technological advisors.
@@caleb4717 3-5 years experience just means "competent, but doesn't cost as much as a senior". Which works for established industries. But not for a fast evolving, young industry like software development.
@@caleb4717 It takes an hour, tops, to Google the listed technologies and see how old they are. Or 15 minutes if they just ask an actual dev to properly adjust the expectations on the job listing. And yet here we are.
I once was hired based on a boiler plate posting, which is typical in my field. I know what I need to do, my manager knows what I need to do, ... It's a strategic position with very long term prospects, so we both expect reasonable rewards each year. 6 months in, the company reshuffles their wage tiers and uses that boiler plate posting as a basis for my new wage tier. I end up at 110%. Apparently I received a very competitive wage for "putting stuff into the computer". "Everyone thinks their job is the most important" This posting had been open for two years. The two previous holders of that position had both left in under a year.
I heard one of these stories about the creator of Python (Guido van Rossum) where during an interview the interviewer called him out for using a feature that didn't exist in the language. His response was "It will be in the next version."
Reminds me of those stories where the applicant says something "wrong", and the interviewer says they should read up on the foremost expert not recognizing the applicant is that expert.
I had a similar experience. I have 10 years of experience in various backend languages. I applied for a Golang position, a language rarely used in our country. I got an interview, but for a Java position. They denied me the Golang position because I hadn't worked on a professional project with it in the last 5 years. My private project didn't matter. HR didn't want to burden the project manager with hiring an inexperienced Golang developer. The fun fact is, I hadn't used Java in the last 5 years either.
"year of experience" is just "skill level". Don't feel bad about "lying" if you have the skill. I remember being asked if I had 5 years .NET Core experience when it was only 3 years old 😂
Bro Istg I saw the dude who created fastapi say he didn’t get a job because he didn’t have 3 years experience with it It came out literally 6 months before the interview
If people want to know why hiring is such a nightmare these days, it's because of consultancies. The jobs are only out there and can be applied to because of regulatory reasons, they already have a candidate lined up for the job from a consultancy, though, but they are legally required to interview and "consider" other people for x weeks. Apply to consultancies for your first job, basically.
SO FU KING TRUE! I cant even describe how right this dude is! As someone who works with a lot of new emerging tech, his videos about stuff like this and companies wnating you to just roll a brand new version of whatever AI out the door in 2.2 days to 1.5 weeks, spot on....
In a few years, I can actually be someone who has several years of experience in a language when it was just released. (I'm in a private beta for a new programming language)
I actually knew someone who was asked to have 2+ years experience using a framework they actually worked on developing that was only been released for about 6 months at the time
I got declined for jobs because I only had step7 experience not the new Tia portal of Siemens. So I got a job now where I am going to get a training in tia.i have not got the training yet, but I have programma in tia for a month it's the F#* same just went from A win95 interface to a XP and unified there different programming tools in to one programma that btw is supper bloated it takes 2gb of free ram to open it is insanely. And minor changes to how things are called. But 99% of what I'm doing is what I have been doing before. But just because the name changed you got to get a training is a hr mentality
I had that with Windows ME years ago, 8-10 years with ME, that barely a few months out. All other variants don't count, and ME was already getting the reputation of the worst version of Windows. But this does show the disconnect some companies have. They want more experience than something has been out but will also call BS if you say you did more it's been out. And then in the next breath say "nO oNe WaNt'S tO wOrK"
Also, it is a common way to legally hire a specific individual in countries with fair hiring practice laws. Companies have to interview any people that apply, but it's just a formality.
Entry level jobs now require at least 5 years of experience after you graduate. However once you have that experience you are overqualified for entry level but not qualified enough for mid level jobs. I just started counting my personal research and university years as experience.
A problem as old as time, back in 99 it was common to need 5 years of java experience. I've decided these sort of requirements are a test to weed out developers who are too autistic to lie, and so it is ok to just tell them whatever they want to hear because they definitely wont hire you if you hurt their feelings by correcting them.
Huh..i wanted to snap my phone in half in understanding and anger for how relatable this is. Fuck recruiters that put literally no God damn effort into their jobs.
"So Sir, you're 18 fresh out of high-school on ever worked at a restaurant but you claim 3+ years of experience with C++ in a business environment?" Yes ma'am I worked illegally!
nah this is kinda weak. here in the Philippines: job description: *must be 20 - 30 years old *with 30 years experience just so they can outsource you. haha
Easy fix, create your own business in an easy start up, use that money to invest in another business that you are starting up. That new business will be the competition for the one who are fake hiring, use every trick in the book to run their business out.
to be honest profesional knowledge is based on working with something for 8 hours a day. If you spend 16 hours coding per day, it makes it a two day experience. Or at least thats how Imagine it works and thats why i put more time than normal on coding knowledge.
As far as I’m concerned 5years experience means you’re “fluent and can quickly solve new problems programmatically”, 3years “very familiar with the language “ , 1year “you can do basic tasks” Yet another inaccurate measure of ability by hiring staff
