“I probably Won’t Ever Hire You Again If You Go Home” | Deadliest Catch 

yep i am a concreter and my old supervisor was the hardest worker i had ever met, now in his late fiftys he can barely walk or move properly and his favourite saying is back in my day i would have lifted that by myself or i would have done that on my own and the comeback was to always ask him how that worked out for him because none of us wanted to be like that when we got to his age.

After 20 years at sea and being a captain for 7 i would never say that to a person. Im reaping what you sow now i was never going to force that on my young guys. Good on john. Most skippers are the opporsite

I wish I hadn’t worked through the pain when I had a shoulder injury. 5 years later it’s still not right. He made the right choice to go home.

i blew out my l5 disk years ago, was in pain but pushed through it and kept working..ended up blowing out l3 and 4 also ..that whole "work through the pain crap is just that..crap ..i have to spend the rest of my life in pain wile the company i worked for gets richer and richer

It pisses me off when someone try’s to guilt trip another person into “push through the pain.” I had a L2 compression fracture at 18 in 1993. I had two fusions at L1/L2 and hardware installed. In 1995 the hardware was removed because it was tearing through my skin. I started having issues in 2004. I was told I was too young for more fusions and to take pain pills as long as I could. In 2009 I was injured on the job. Tore tendons in my left ankle and smacked the back of my head on a concrete floor. I was refused treatment for a year by work comp because the doctor kept saying nothing was wrong. I’ve now had five surgeries on the tendons (2010, 2012, 2014, 2017, 2018) and I’m needing another surgery. Unfortunately the tendons are so deteriorated, I don’t know what can be repaired. The head injury was never treated or accepted by work comp. I now get constant migraines. I had bilateral carpal tunnel surgeries in 2016 because supposedly that’s what was causing the tingling and pins/needles in my fingers. Turns out it was my neck causing the issues, but because it wasn’t looked at after bouncing my head off the floor, no one listened to my complaints of feeling like I was holding onto an electric fence for 6 years. The surgeon butchered my hands and now I have permanent nerve damage in both of them. My neck has bulging discs and pinched nerve roots from C2-C6. I had a herniated and ruptured disc at C6/C7 that was removed, a cage installed, vertebrae fused, and a plate installed in 2021. I was just informed that I’m going to need the rest of my neck fused. My back from L1-L3 are bulging discs and L3-S1 are degenerative discs, so I will need fusions there too. I was told earlier this year that my right hip needs to be replaced too. All because doctors told me to man up and deal with the pain by taking pills. My whole life I was raised to ignore the pain. I can’t do anything about that now, but I try to talk to people who I know are suffering to explain they only have one body, one life, one chance. Don’t screw it up because of ego and pride.

Working through the pain especially with men is important. But more important is knowing the limit. Because these people telling you to push harder aren’t going to be there to care for you when you’re maimed and can’t walk or do things you used to. Plus we don’t have the same net that a lot of people had back then. Watch out for yourself. Him saying “if you Leave I probably won’t ever hire you again.” That’s probably the first time I ever lost respect for John H.

I sure miss Phil. He was one of my very favorite. All the guys are awesome. But for some reason, Phil was the top dog. RIP Phil you're loved and missed..Jonathan and Sig are pretty frickin cool also. 😎

I’m sure there is plenty of guys out there that would love to work for you

"we can put your arm in a sling and you can still work and finish out the season, but if you go home now, I probably wont ever hire you again." shortly after tells camera man: "I will never make a guy work that is injured"

Wish I had a boss like that I’ve had torn shoulder for months now and boss hasn’t done a thing about it

Who saw that “Do not exceed 4,200lbs per shelf” scratched out to 420. Alright, alright. These guys like to spend some time with Mary Jane 😂 Nothing wrong with that, I’m sure it helps the pain!

"You cannot always get what you need..... Just what someone else wants for you......."

I would have made a deal with the Captain that I would work, wouldn't be as effective and would just sort the crab or chop bait while in a sling just to be a team player. You don't want to get a quitter reputation in that field of work. I've worked on a boat out of Seward, it's just how it works in Alaska.

Sorry but just like in sports...work/play hurt is one thing...but to work/play injured...may be something you never recover from.. from a sports perspective ask Grant Hill or Kevin McHale (he's still limping)!

what actually was he going to do without a useable arm on board for a month? like, at that point he's just soaking up supplies until he's able to use the arm safely. it sucks, and yeah Jonathan needs to find a replacement worker...but that replacement will be able to work and contribute from the start.

i got a bad back injury at work they wanted me to keep going i couldnt stand up straight. dont ever bust you ass for companys they dont care about you. if you cant make money they will throw you on the streets and say good luck

Hillstrand is the man !

I bet Cptn Jonathan has a wicked Macho Man Randy Savage impression.

Shit I would've kept working ruined my shoulder and collected one hell of a big check from the lawsuit

I would always work through the pain when I was younger. It was the Coast Guard so different circumstances. Here I am in my 40s and my body shouldn't feel like it does.

His leg, Eddy, is fkd up. Capt: hey Eddy wanna come up here??? Fkn so STAGED!!! Good God guys. ...

You're the man JH! Always with that winning attitude and healthy humor. You got a fishing fever alright....

Eddy are you ok are you ok eddy

I thought the Hillstrand family sold the Time Bandit?

Being someone that is in management at my job and having my own family work under me in the past... I can say that it is a lot tougher to have these talks with family, than with a regular employee. Some people cannot understand that this is just business. At the end of the day, they are still kin and should still love each other!

Bosses like this are clowns. You work with your crew your crew doesn't work for you. Once that mentality is set you'll have an unstoppable team.

Young kid so probably could’ve worked through it but that’s also one of the toughest jobs in the world and if he had gone and was slowing the rest of the team down then they probably would of ripped into him. Jonathan is very old school and probably doesn’t understand not working through pain. Different times and different generation for better or worse.

I would work for that captain any day of the week. Makes my managers at work look terrible.

Boss: "Work while injured or quit." Me: "Let me heal to be able to work the way you want me to work, or get sued for worker's comp." Workers could respond that way. You don't make a guy quit for healing time. Workers want to go back to work, but they need to heal to be able to work.

i guss not ever hillstran is a real man

Like he said he expected more because it's his nephew lol a job is a job relationships don't matter he made the right choice choosing too heal up.

I love how Jonathan didn’t sugar coat it with the kid. You leave, your not coming back. You could tell he didn’t wanna be there anyways.

The captain that only cares about the boat. What a selfish jerk.

You could snap Freddy's spine and hed still work.

I won’t ever hire you again but I love you?

They sure dont make them like they use to.

There's a difference between being tough and stupid. These captains think the deck hands can just walk off or work through any injury.... Easy to say when you have zero chance of getting hurt.

Some jobs are just heavy manual labor, and you need to be 100%healthy, I did drilling rigs in my youth and seen my share of injuries that seemed minor and turned out to be detrimental after a few months, safety first you can always make money you can't make vertebrates protect the 33 you have they have to last a lifetime!!! 2022

They needed drama. So they told Eddie to break a leg.

Deff a job where 1 in 1000 people could do it fully.

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So could the nephew sue because he kinda got fired for getting a injury at work?? Like is that a thing

Whatever money he would have made by pushing through the injury he would likely have had to pay back double or even triple in medical bills down the road. As you get older it’s important to provide for your family but not at the expense of your life. Always another job. You only get one body.

Honestly the captain was a jerk to him the first guy got out scot-free. The second guy injured his shoulder so freaking bad and it's his own flesh and blood he's like I probably won't hire you again if you don't work with a messed up shoulder but I don't want to make people work and stay on my ship if they don't want to but he threatened his own nephew that's a jerk

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Why were they screaming over 117? It's ok but 200+ is what fills boats

Who pays these guys? The captains ?

That's annoying he got so pissed at the guy and then says it's all about family, you would think you want your family to be healthy

Boy if it ain't broke or you're going to die for that amount of money you better get your ass back out there.

As a general rule, I don't respond well to ultimatums. And I don't think anyone should. The kid is family, and yet he tells him that if he leaves now he'll never hire him again. Then, he tells him that he loves him. Right. I'm sure. When the job is more important than the health and well-being of your family, you've lost sight of what's important. And I don't care who you are or what financial situation you're in. If I was in that situation, as soon as my "family member" spoke those words I would have immediately cut him off emotionally, left the boat, and moved on with my life with people who cared about me more than the money I could bring back for the "family business."

You don’t have to sit on the bench

weak , real weak , family will be the 1st to mess ya up , sad really ,

Well,dats family business you know wut?I wanna be a boss too!! And the boss knew it too!He knew i got no monies to buy a boat like his "XD lol Hahahahahahahaha! I'm screwed!

Well to be fair crab fishing isn’t for everyone! But I think he just needed an excuse!

Just the standard .. Money over people..even family. Will never change until humans die out =(

This guy obviously doesn’t care about his nephew only his money

The dude has a separation and a rotator cuff problem. What if he goes overboard? How’s he gonna swim and save himself? That captain is an asshole

your statement of work threw the pain is bs. thats how you end up with life long injuries and disabilities

I don't know what's worse... A deckhand that's fake a injury, or a guy trying to hide his injury?

He torn something and gets shit for it?

If you don't work through the pain you aren't a man and you'll never be respected as one.

This younger generation appears soft but they stand up for themselves and don’t fall into the workplace toxic mentality

Wow..hes injured.. if he works with an injury he will probably pay for it the rest of his life .. its not about being tough.. its about taking care of yourself so you can be able to do what you need to do without being in pain the rest of your life....

No offense but I wanted to be out there with the guys hurt or not I wldnt rather be watching there back and helping with little stuff wish this was my job

Love Jonathan but he was wrong here

Why ruin your health for a few dollars....your health is invaluable. Dick move by Hillstrand SR

Middle of a pandemic.... nd he chooses to quit.... I guess some folks don't value being able to provide

It should be an osha violation to have someone who can only use one arm in a dangerous situation like that. It's just a liability

injuries like this take longer than just 4 weeks to heal. It may be estimated to take that long, but majority always has it lasting longer than specified. If not given the time to heal fully, it could leave him with lasting effects that could possibly stick with him for the rest of his life. For a lot of people, their job is just not worth receiving lasting complications to their health. And whos to say that they would have even allowed him to rest that long? And it wouldn't have even been the captain, the crew would have made his life more hell that it already had been. From what I've seen, the crews of the ships don't always have the same thought process and morals that the Captain's do. While John may be a good man who tries to keep his crew's health in mind, his crew very well would make Philip's time onboard be hell. Especially Freddy. They would have only seen him as a liability, and done their best to get him to either snap and start a fight, or break and leave. Phill may have seen this and decided, combined with the injury, that it just wasn't worth it. His health and wellbeing are more important than the job. And who's to say that it's be the last time he'd be on a boat? Just because John won't hire him doesn't mean another ship won't. Maybe he might pick another job instead of fishing or crabbing.

He didn't want to work. You cant give em that choice. Fuck feelings. Survival

The ace edge? Get the original narrator back.

Mike r sounds better than Scrooge Mcduck

A bone sticking through the skin and torn internal fibers are both equally severe.

this is lowkey toxic asf

Pssssshhhh

Phillip, go and do something better than crab fishing. Crab fishing is a dead end job with little or no benefits.

Stupid captain only thinks about money and not one's health when they get injured on the job. He should sue that captain for his injuries.

yes no one will thank him the day he is so injured that he can not work at all except the taxpayers will be paying for him

Imagine working for a drug addict that cares more about his money than your life or future.

He's a boy not a man.

Why would you want a guy with one arm anyway, he's just going to slow you down and potentially get someone else injured having to pick up his slack

It's all drama for the show. You can't have an injured worker doing what they are doing.

Truth is you can't bullshit a bullshitter and not get called on it.

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Kids today are different I swear . Nothing like how it used to be . It’s like it’s the last generation for the tough now it’s fuck boys on RU-vid these days . Any Moran on with a camera can make it now .

when you "work through the pain" and you get older.. not only you but your loved ones pay the price.. speaking from experience being a caregiver for my stepfather from the age of 13. Props to him for knowing limits and going home. There are always other jobs and opportunities. no job is worth destroying your body for.

I dont like how he calls it quitting.....the dude is in pain and doesn't want to spend four weeks on a boat while in pain

This is one of the most toxic things about a boss who sees employees as a tool rather than a human being. It's in so many industries that involve physical labor. Don't lower yourself to an object. He made the right choice for himself, and that's all he should care about.

I have mixed feelings about this. Iv always tried to work through pain /injuries but I ripped ligaments and tendons in my wrist this year and was on the bench for 2 months. I felt I had to make that choice cause it was redundant to be at work not at full potential and risky I could have damaged it permanently more so than I have. The guy made the right choice for his health, not so much for the family or the boat, but he did the right thing for him.

I’m surprised the captain was so pissed. It’s a shoulder injury and crabbing is a strenuous job for the upper body. I have a torn labrum and it’s difficult to even “twist the wrist”.

I work for a national porta pot company...I was thinking of starting a reality show to dramatize the ups and downs of the industry..call it the Deadliest Stench

The whole if you don't work through the pain/injury you're no good is BS! He's a young guy who could face serious repercussions for the rest of his life. And so called family business but doesn't support the health n well being of someone is disgusting....😞

The captain says he understands, but tells him he'll never hire him again if he goes home. Alright.

I never knew when to stop and trust me all the injuries I have had over the years have caught up with me big time

I've seen him do this several times for the camera pretending to care about his crew, or the guy that went overboard "incident". Unfortunately Mr. Hillstrand would expect you to continue working with broken legs, you are only a "good guy" if you make him money, by far the most uncaring Skipper in the fleet over his crew or others

That shoulder injury is no joke... Do u know how bad that hurts? Geez. Tough bunch of dude's.

I knew a guy in high school, big strong guy. In football he was a monster and in the weight room he was a beast. In one game he tore his shoulder and was never the same. I’ve seen him squat 500 lbs as a freshman and deadlift 700 lbs, but because of that shoulder he couldn’t even bench 200 lbs and before that he was doing 300 no problem

if u continue to work, after the job is long gone u will still be in shoulder pain. after 5 years of quitting my job where i was at 10 years, i have shoulder pain and will have it til the end. stinky jobs aint worth ur health, if you dont have health you dont have anything.

My uncle "worked through the pain" He ended up with chronic life long pain and it literally killed him.

I’m sure there’s playing goes out there that love to work for you and make