“MELLE MEL HAS S*** ON RAPPERS AFTER HIM…” ARE OLDER RAPPERS HATERS??? WHY??? 

I agree,I'm a 90's baby that got into hip hop late 2000's😅 I'm always down to learn🍻🍺

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@PHARAOH SPEAKS OVER THE TOP IMPRESSIONS hip hop could never die, its “OUR” culture

Definitely does! We as a culture need to take the influence away from the industry period. They breed fools and fools leading fools= more fools. We need our OG’s and all the wisdom they have as well as we need more unity

Naw, that's a fact bro. Hoffa been silently killing them with success. He deserves his flowers NOW

He needs help

That is why I fuck with Caz more than Mel.When Caz went to Drinks Champ he showed mad love to the new cats

@@stephenheath8465 yup, when I saw Melle Mel go out and slander Rakim for no reason I completely did away with him. That kind of bitterness is sickening

He's not bitter, he just didn't like the fact that 90s rappers were being used to push negativity and degenerate lifestyles to the youth....for instance being on drugs, being an alcoholic, disrespecting women, and destruction.

​@@poetparagraph His comments about Rakim and KRS-One were even more disparaging than his ones on the 90s and after rappers. Anyone who came after him and received more props than him is worthy of slander in his eyes. That's being the voice of bitterness instead of reason, which an elder like him should be.

Excellent analysis and food for thought!

Food for thoughts 🤔

Big Facts!!!

I rebuke the matriarchy... but we have a lot of simps and son-husbands who uphold and enforce these broads phuckery.

Bars

Melle Mel is in a fog from steroid use. You heard!

Actually he had more than one hit.

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I remember watching the beef dvd back in the day and they was talking about having security and entourage’s. Redman was like “I ain’t worried about none of these MFS mannn, I walk with god, word up” 😂😂😂

He had mad love in Queens Bridge too when he was living there and I'm sure he still does

METHOD MAN'S A BUM‼️He was scared of Joe Budden, that's why he got him beat up, to OVERSHADOW the fact that He would've BODIED HIM on LIVE RADIO and METHOD Man would've lost that Aura about him‼️

You're right

Correct

People are watching that means Math's platform is glowing up fr fr!!!👍🏾✊🏾👊🏾💪🏾🙏🏾👑💎🔥🗽💯

. As a ex

I hope they gave it up to Math’s platform when these journalists are repeating this story!

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@Soca-Samuel The Red Indian method man was in a bad mood at some awards show. He tried to say hi to destiny's child. Apparently they didn't hear him or acknowledge him. Later that night, someone introduced them to him and they were nice and tried to shake his hand. In that moment he thought they were just acting as if they didn't purposely ignore him so he refused to shake their hand and was rude. It wasn't til later that he figured they probably didn't hear him the first time.

Mel comes from a battle rapper from the 70s mindset. A diss from him is a compliment. 😆

@@mostmost1 I don't see caz and mo dee doing that and they from the same era

I'm 56 years old so I remember a time when every rapper or rap group was compared to melly Mel and the furious 5. When the message came out the record label instead of paying them gave them mopeds. So Mel has been bitter for a very long time about rappers he feels are not as skilled as he was making more money than he did. And I totally agree

@@mikegillins4992 they both his children. He inspired them to rhyme. However his arrogance is no excuse. Caz is smooth and Moe's Dee is a great thinker. They moved on from 79. Mel ain't moved on he don't wanna pass that crown.

@@generalinformation3507 That's his fault. LL came out in '85, about a decade or so after Melle Mel, and he was able to keep himself relevant and market his talents to sustained wealth to this day. I don't like hearing crying broke dudes. Get out there and get it. A lot of BP just don't want to compete. They want shit handed to them.

This is so true. I love Method Man, I deeply love his music and what he represents, I love how humble he was during his whole career, and I love how articulate he is in these interviews. However listening to these type of conversations, I can definitely understand how the newer generations might feel. Yeah, it goes both ways.

When you disrespect and poison the game you don't deserve respect. Nobody has to accept your world view

well said

@@hooptastic_hippie8522 thank you it needed 2 be said.

​@@TisGOBBLEdeGOOK literally goes both ways as bro said

Yo this example is legit spot on💯

This is an excellent point!! But fuck the younger generation they not as talented, fundamentally sound, and don’t listen!

Well put. I never heard it put like that. It is hard to listen to someone who your way richer than.

Thanks @@bluecollar825 . Pride and Ego won't allow it. There's the rub. If one did listen, the jewels would or could be invaluable.

@Vevo Music ➐ This isn't my type of vibe. I'll pass. Good luck on your endeavors.

Good point and your exactly right we revere money and status over impact cause if your not rich your not relevant!

It’s goes hand and hand with the age of attention with social media.

Without him there's no rap you herb

Werd

What more can I say, I wouldn’t be here today, if the old school didn’t pave the way! Talkin bout the old school- 2Pac

​@@Bcilloz That was actually sampled from Grand Puba while still with Brand Nubian, but we get your point

3 Stacks said that over 7 years ago.

Not facts at all, bein hip aint about being young its about understanding. You can be old and do that

Hip came from Hep or Hepicat a Wolof term meaning in the know or you know what's up and Cab Calloway used that term in the 30's... Then Miles Davis (that cat is hip or that's a hip cat) from the Bebop era... Then Hippies, Hip Hop and Hipsters....

@@Savage_to_Sagegood break down of the word.

@@critiqueeverything3297 If that were true then y'all should have been true Griots and shared that info with the rest of us...

He go to my gym dude cool but he def hate on the younger artist I never heard him shout out artists after him

@@mosthatedny2243 that why Willie D knock him out in the ring

Iv met melle mel before and I know some dudes close to him listen he had a message when he came out he wanted to send the positive message with his raps! Now all he hears is murder death killl drugs murder murder. So his ignorant because he wants better for his people? We are so numb and lost as a black race to negativity we don’t want a change we cry and moan but really we love it we love being ignorant and dumb

@@johntucker4056 You can't be serious but if you are work on your reading comprehension !

@@onceagain6184 let’s talk about it!! What is it that I am saying that’s wrong! I was born in the 80s I seen how hip hop went left! Nwa ice t etc was on some gangster vibe then the rest was history! That was never melle mels plan lyrics was alll about talking about the struggles in the hoods period

2 chains came up in his 30’s, jay z went platinum multiple times after age 30

Keyword: FAN SUPPORT You got to keep your core fanbase or they move on. Rap Fans be fickle as hell if you ain't coming correct and that's for every artist, no exception, you have to show and prove every time out. Standing on legacy will only take you so far. Just look at jay z and nas.

Right and most rapper's don't get popping until 26ish

@@jman1562001 Well Nas fell over after God's Son and made a great comeback with KD1.

@@freddavis5978 Absolutely right. Which Doesn't happen to often nowadays.

When he dissed Nas he was crossing the line IMO, he just sounds bitter at this point that other rappers get more respect then he does and are higher on some "lists" people make like Billboard.

Sad but true

Very valid point

I like it how it is like a underground feel too it

Exactly

Caz signed his publishing away to hank and hank capitalized. Imo that is on him. Melle Mel got jerked by the Robinson family. Moe dee lost the battle to LL and dint recover musically. Mc shan git jerked and def became bitter after labels no longer supported. The pioneers all have their stories and I think Math needs to bring them on these shows to express themselves as well.

Facts

Caz ain't mad.Caz big up the newer heads over the years.He was on Drink Champs not to long ago and He was up on eveything currently with the game,but I understand where Mel is coming from though

Money isn’t the issue. I think it’s the fact that the youth don’t respect the history or the culture of Hip Hop. The issue has been about the material being put out by the youth. It’s been seen as lazy, dumbed down, and without substantial content plus it all sounds the same. My personal gripe with it is similar in that how can these young bucks call themselves artist and they all look and sound exactly the same. In Hip Hop , the goal is to outshine the competition when your own the mic and staying true to yourself and your art form. It’s hard to do this if your copying what another artist do which is something mumble rap does a lot.

He dress like 50 cent 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I think 50 is low-Key his favorite rapper cuz he definitely took his swag on how he dressed like you said he just like it’s 2003

If he celebrated pac how is he a mad rapper then.

@@erichawkins7305 He's mad about not blowing up and making money like all the other rappers who came after him. The only rapper I ever heard him praise is Pac and it's not like Pac is the only rapper who has ever paid him homage.

@@legendary9689 😁😁... I mean, he's a Boomer. You would think he would dress more like the '70s, which is his generation's heyday... not the '90s or '00s, which is GenX and Millennials heyday

@@KtotheG Lol bro I just found a interview where Melle Mell said 50 is nice imma send you the link see I told you I can tell he likes 50 cent just by the way he dress.

Rap has been around long enough to have an audience old enough to support the older artists. But older rap fans only buy their favorite artists older stuff. I see it all the time when someone like Meth drops an album but no one in that age group I know actually supported the project even when it's solid. So then they have to rely on the younger fans supporting them which doesn't work as well, since they'd understandably rather support someone in their age bracket first.

@@TollFree999 this is what y'all don't understand these older folks you speak of don't buy cds or pay to stream music and give their hard earned money to people who already rich 😂 things always change it's still the same game most older artists stuck in the past you literally can blow up off RU-vid the younger generation are the sheep who artists should always focus and prey on to have success being salty at the younger artists not gonna help you in no way you Collab and capitalize put your feelings aside its all business at the end of day

@@TollFree999 I also sort of see that around my circle, i'd say it's 50/50, half of the ogs still listen to new stuff from guys like meth the other half only listen to the old joints... Tie that to the fact that back when Meth was popping the amount of people listening to hip-hop was tiny compared to now, that also plays a part because like you said new fans tend to relate more to their age bracket with a few expectations like Jay-Z, J Cole, etc... It's really a lot of factors that contribute to OG's not having the deserved attention and let's face it, many of them lost also lost that youthfull hunger and fell off.

UNTRUE Reggae changes dramatically too but they revere the older generation

@@edwinotieno9470 I was generally refering to Pop/Rock/Top-40 genres since that is referred in the actual conversation. I can't possibly know the detailed history of all the genres out there bro. To me raggae sounds the roughly the same if anything changed in that realm it was dancehall which absorbed the trap sound lot in the last decade but I am no expert to have an opinion about that anyway, I admit my ignorance here.

Exactly

There's a couple of rappers I'm listening to (who are younger than me), but most of 'em are in their late 40s and 50 something. Well Some are in their 60s hehe I assume Hip Hop will be fine in the future 🔮

What about Lord Jamar???

​@@louievasquez2381 he is a hypocrite

He also said run dmc was the begging of the end of real hip hop lol

@@6thbr871 that’s because RUNDMC didn’t wear the boots spikes and feathers

@@MrWARBUCKS24 that why Willie D knock melle mel out

All 3 statements are FALSE!!

I totally agree. I listened to his VladTV interview and he was shitting on Biggie, Jay-Z, and Eminem for no reason besides being salty.

@@damiendsoul360 melle Mel mad Willie D knock him out In the ring

@@antoniohoward981 FOR REAL??!!!? When did that go down? I never heard about it.

@@damiendsoul360 you tube Willie D vs melle mel

Great comment bro. You beat me to it with him being on Roids take LOL!

Exactly

TRUE STORY!!!!!

For real, the new generation has got their time to shine because the generation before them was shitted on by older artists.So,you learn from that.If your music is good then your music is good.If I can't identify with the new artists then I won't try to do it just because.I came from a time where everyone was almost good,but it's not like that anymore but that's the business,things change just it changed before.So,we can't be mad at the new generation because our generation been there where the old timers were trying to fight the newcomers for a spot and it didn't work either.As long as we control our music and never forget where it came from that's what matters.

That’s a double edge sword. The youth (primarily mumble rappers) have been very dismissive of true Hip Hop and it’s history. The don’t know and they don’t want to know. As an older cat, I find that crazy! How can you call yourself an artist and not know anything about the history of the subject you’re involved in? How can you not respect it’s historical origins or it’s greats? That’s sad bro. As far as the older cats, we’re only asking that they put better effort into their work. Nothing wrong with that. If it’s their time to take the reigns, then at least invest in the culture instead putting out garbage.

@@Bcilloz great points. But as the elders, we have to make the first move. If they opt not to hear us, we move to the next.

@@obsidyan2000 It’s only in rap that you see this and sad to say, it’s our own black people. I’m a high school teacher and I can tell you first hand that the youth, especially without a proper upbringing, can be very disrespectful towards their elders, even more so today than when I was coming along. They can get defensive really quick and judging by these comments, they have closed ears and closed minds. “Old heads”, “Old man in a barber shop” Old man screaming at the clouds” “F you old ass nigga” I see the comments and that’s some disrespectful shit! Sure we were a bit hard headed when we were young but I don’t recall us ever being as disrespectful to our elders. This internet generation is outta control. If they can’t respect their elders, how can they respects Hip Hops culture and history? You would’ve never heard Stevie Wonder or Micheal Jackson disrespecting Aretha, Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye or James Brown. That unfathomable! Oh the backlash would’ve been swift and prolly would’ve destroyed their careers if they pulled the same stunt that todays young bucks are doing to the legends. The other problem is, and it may sound disrespectful but it’s not, most of the mumble rappers grew up in the south ( I grew up down here too but I had an open mind when it came to other regions of Hip Hop)…..However, the majority of them don’t know or never heard of the the many legends that have come out of Hip Hip…only ones the know are Jay, Nas, Bigge & PAC. And that’s it. And even then they don’t care about them either. I don’t know bro…outside of rap music, this generation of youth is just wayyyyy different. It’s going to take more than just music to reach them.