“Part of airplane fell off the right wing”. United Airbus A319 loses part Mid Air. Real ATC

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THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
03-OCT-2024. A United Airlines Airbus A319 (A319), registration N873UA, performing flight UAL2330 / UA2330 from Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, TX (USA) to Denver International Airport, CO (USA) during climb out of DFW Airport reported that they had got an information from passengers and flight attendants that they had lost a part of the airplane. The captain declared an emergency and returned to the airport of departure. After landing the airplane stopped on the taxiway for inspection. Watch the video for more information.
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Timestamps:
00:17 United Airbus A319 is climbing out of Dallas-Fort Worth Airport
00:40 Pilot reports that they had lost part of the airplane. They are declaring an emergency and returning
03:09 The flight crew contacts Dallas Approach controller
05:37 The pilots of United 2330 contacts DFW Tower controller
06:29 Landing at Dallas-Fort Airport. Communications with the Fire Command
07:23 Fire Command confirms that they have lost part of the airplane
07:41 Where did you lose that part?
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THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
SOURCES OF MATERIAL, LICENSES AND PERMISSIONS:
Source of communications - www.liveatc.net/ (I have a permission (Letter) for commercial use of radio communications from LiveATC.net).
Map, aerial pictures (License (ODbL) ©OpenStreetMap -www.openstreet...) Permission for commercial use, royalty-free use.
Radar screen (In new versions of videos) - Made by author.
Text version of communication - Made by Author.
Video editing - Made by author.
HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

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@daveschaaf6067 День назад

I was on the flight on Thursday night out of DFW. Plane definitely took a dip to the left out of the blue which was probably the part coming off. Recovered very quickly. The Pilot and attendants were calm and very professional. First class job done by the crew. United had us on the way to Denver in about 90 minutes after getting back to the gate. The most interesting part of the whole first flight was the parade of fire engines and ambulances following us back to the gate. It was quite the parade.

@andy_in_colorado7060 День назад

I'm not sure I'd like it very much if stuff fell off my airplane. It seems suboptimal.

@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC 2 дня назад

So that's what that is in my front yard.

@ej2953 2 дня назад

If it landed on your roof, your HOA would shortly be issuing a fine for illegal roof repair.

@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC 2 дня назад

@@ej2953 Unauthorized lawn decoration as well.

@JohnLemieux 10 часов назад

Donnie Darko is that you?

@deirdredunbar5282 22 часа назад

I was flying out of DFW years ago and our flight has a delayed boarding. My brother who was flying with me saw the Snapped on Tools work van pull up to our airplane. My brother looked at me and said- "nope. not going. Snapped on Tools is working on our flight."

@RobMiami787 День назад

I love this channel I'm always surprised at what seems to me A lot of extra chatter and Pilots repeated info.

@wizerdjuice9589 День назад

Great crew and ATC.

@clqudy4750 2 дня назад

Send UAL some bumper stickers: "Honk if parts fall off!"

@msjdb723 День назад

😂

@yaosio 22 часа назад

I'd like to make it clear that it's not normal for parts to fall off of airplanes.

@johnmknox День назад

It is probably somewhere along the West Fork Trinity River in that general area south of Haltom City.

@Matt-mo8sl 2 дня назад

"Daddy, the top came off." "No shit."

@jonchowe 2 дня назад

How many times does he need to say flap track fairing before they get it?

@malahammer 2 дня назад

Who?

@joemeyer6876 День назад

It’s called a canoe.

@walterappling6230 День назад

“Flap track fairing” is something of a tongue-twister, so they’re testing him.

@jonchowe День назад

@@walterappling6230 "we have smoke in the sea shell cellar, sir. Should sub system switches set- sh!t!"

@TheShowblox День назад

Not entirely sure, but depending on if I got the registration right, this might have been the plane me and my family flew on a few months ago.

@hgbugalou День назад

Yeah I was trying to find the tail number. I was on a united a319 last month and we had to sit on the tarmac for 30 minutes because of some issue on one of the wings, but they got it fixed and everything went normal.

@teamscrew 18 часов назад

How does that happen? Maintenance failure or just wore out?

@iceman9678 День назад

Airbus fanbois will defend and blame Boeing.

@cheeseburger3072 День назад

Duct tape, where's the duct tape?

@ReneChewbaka День назад

@@cheeseburger3072 speed tape

@EdOeuna День назад

Scare-bus

@ReneChewbaka День назад

If you declare an emergency it moves you to the front of the line. Why would ATC even ask?

@GH-oi2jf День назад

The captain did not say he needed to get down immediately. He later said there was no urgency. He probably has checklists to run. He just wants to land as soon as he is ready.

@jamescollier3 День назад

ATC could stick them in a line of 5 or 6, Or send around 3 or 4 or make them do circles. this was there was no distribution

@jamescollier3 День назад

ATC could stick them in a line of 5 or 6, Or send around 3 or 4 or make them do circles. this was there was no distribution

@m00nie_m00n День назад

They might need time for checklists, burn some fuel, lose some altitude or plenty of other reasons...

@cruisinguy6024 День назад

declaring an emergency by no means indicates they're ready to land right away, and even if they are that doesn't always mean everyone needs to be moved out of the way

@alexe1707 День назад

I think I had that Capt last week

@tfwj69 19 часов назад

Hahaha😂😂😂😂😂 keep hiring people from subway, and Walmart.

@jillcrowe2626 День назад

Unbelievable. Material falling off the airplane is just not acceptable.

@_dIIJAY День назад

Imagine how the regular passenger freaks out in the airplane due EM situation, while pilots and ATCs hear and deal with this shit on a daily base. My fuckin airplane broke in half, in one half in fire and in the other half a wild shark appeared? K, I decent at my descretion to 9k and run a checklist. Sounds strange, but true.

@christianmiller1723 День назад

Come on, it hasn't been like this for years. It's either MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY or PAN PAN or not an emergency at all. This causes confusion when not done correctly.

@Blast6926 День назад

Boring, get a life

@se-kmg355 День назад

My favorite, "You are an emergency, but are you urgent?"

@eltomas3634 22 часа назад

It is a developing situation. He does not have all the information yet so he isn't quite sure, there is an investigation. It's not a good idea to immediately declare an emergency because a passenger reported they think something fell off. Once the investigation is done, an emergency is declared if necessary. It would be real nice to have a complete picture of everything all at once, but real life doesn't happen that way most of the time.

@aY227 День назад

Well, at least front didn't fell of

@barryo5158 День назад

Ouch!

@seth_alapod 2 дня назад

The front fell off

@cyberentomology День назад

I’d like to point out that this is not normal.

@wtfudc День назад

Fuel truck hit the fairing on the ground. Left a hole on the canoe fairing. Maintenance removed it and filed paperwork to allow it to continue the next flight **LEGALLY**. Plane took off and passenger noticed and mistakenly reported to the crew the fairing fell out of the plane mid air. It was in fact removed on the ground. Sorry nothing fell out mid flight.

@se-kmg355 День назад

If that is true than the Captain is in some trouble.

@cruisinguy6024 День назад

@@se-kmg355 I'm not sure if you realize this but the Captain actually is *not* the same as maintenance personnel. If maintenance signed off on their work it's on them not the flight crew. Additionally, the flap fairing isn't even needed for flight it's just for aerodynamics however it falling off in flight is cause to land.

@se-kmg355 День назад

@@cruisinguy6024 You do realize that the Captain is responsible for the aircraft. If the maintenance signed it off, it is in the tech log, and also it should have been spotted during walk around. So if what OP is suggesting, the crew should already be aware of the missing fairing. If they weren't, someone did not do their job correctly.

@cruisinguy6024 День назад

@@se-kmg355 it's not the captain's job to call out a ladder or lift truck and a tool box so he can disassemble the aircraft to ensure maintenance did their job correctly. That's beyond his scope of responsibility and expertise. Lots of issues like this happen that are not visible on a walk around. Another example is a poor window replacement that causes the window to blow out as the aircraft pressurizes; there's no way for the pilots to inspect the maintainer's work - not that they'd even know what to look for anyway.

@se-kmg355 День назад

@@cruisinguy6024 You are not reading correctly. It is the PIC responsibility to keep up with the state of the aircraft using any information presented. If what is stated by the OP is true, the missing fairing should already been known to the crew, if the tech log was reviewed and there would have not been an issue. I do not know what you are rambling on that the pilots should commence maintenance on the aircraft, they are not authorized to do so.

@CanyonBlue737Capt День назад

But....but...it's a MagicAirBus. Somehow this must be Boeing's fault.

@Fs3i День назад

I mean… the problem is not that Boeing had an incident once, it’s the series of life-threatening issues with the max (first mcas, then missing bolts) that has experts worry, especially since it affects new aircraft. This incident only sounds similar on the most surface level you look at it. That doesn’t mean airbus is magic and always perfect, far from it! The problem is that boeings issue are unacceptable, regardless of what their competition is or isn’t doing

@fuhkerz День назад

@Fs3i I think the point is the lack of hysteria. Given the exact same sequence of events due to the exact same causes on a Boeing flight and there would be tons of headlines saying, "Passengers terrified as Boeing plane loses parts from its wing after takeoff." For a while there, even the most mundane flight returning to the airport would get coverage if it was a Boeing. That does seem to have slowed down recently, though. Maybe they finally drove the stock price low enough to cash out

@CanyonBlue737Capt День назад

@@Fs3i My comment was not aimed at Airbus so much as at the media and the army of keyboard kaptains who live for Boeing Bashing. My real issue is the uneven reporting of the many, many other issues with Airbus products vs the instant feeding frenzy of expert comments, many from non industry professionals, who watched a scary pseudo documentary on Netflix and now consider themselves experts. Do a search on how many bleed air leaks Airbus has had over the past decade or so. It's an ongoing issue across their product line, and unless one is in the industry, you would never know it's going on. It's kind of like asking one of the keyboard kaptains what the first LionAir crew to experience an MCAS related Runaway StabTrim did differently than the second crew or the Ethiopians, and why they were able to land safely, yet the other two crews were not.

@cruisinguy6024 День назад

@@Fs3i No, the issue is mass hysteria fueled by news sensationalism. Boeing aircraft are at an all time safety level however people act as if they're falling from the sky. Meanwhile Airbus has incidents all the time but people aren't freaking out about Airbus.

@SaseboJoe День назад

And no news report about an Airbus aircraft?

@ender22782 День назад

There it is. Knew there would be one guy who has no idea what he’s talking about

@buckhorncortez 2 дня назад

Must be Boeing's fault...

@garygrant9612 2 дня назад

another ual and airbus problem. someone forgot to re attatch the screws. the faa should ground the aircraft and united.

@RetiredEE 2 дня назад

Uh-oh 😬

@RossNixon День назад

They didn't need to go back. Aircraft was doing fine without it. Emergency? What was the emergency?

@m00nie_m00n День назад

Just because it handles fine for the moment, doesn't mean it will stay that way in all conditions. Also potential additional drag by the missing fairing will make fuel calculations impossible. Calling an emergency is a safety precaution in case they quickly need priority and definitely the right choice. I'd fly with these Pilots any time of the day...

@bryanspink8042 21 час назад

It’s called Risk Management. He’s minimizing liability for the airline and ensuring the safety of his aircraft, crew and passengers. It’s more than “just a fairing”. Take a good look at the wing of an Airbus A318 / 319/ 320 /321 series (any Airbus for that matter) and you’ll notice that most of the wing is comprised of the flaps, ailerons, leading edge slats and spoilers. That means that most of the wing moves and if a fairing separates, other things can possibly separate as well. If the flaps are affected, you may be forced to land at higher airspeeds and now you have hot brake issues or a lot less likely you could have asymmetrical flaps and now you have a potentially lethal control issue. The same could be said for aileron issues, etc. My point is that ANY piece of the aircraft that falls off is grounds for declaring an emergency and returning to the field. I’ve never had a piece fall off anything I’ve flown but if it happened I would declare an emergency and turn back. When the day comes that I don’t fly anymore I want my logbook to show the same number of takeoffs and landings. This crew did it right.

@RossNixon 19 часов назад

@@bryanspink8042 Just a Pan Pan really.

@seanpellegrino2989 2 дня назад

"Construction part"?

@JoeDFWAviation День назад

DFW regional west feeder sucks, as a DFW based avgeek, I’m sorry.

@jamescollier3 День назад

yeah. some are great, and some have been down forever

@scottw5315 2 дня назад

It's not a Boeing? I'm confused...

@Murkelsable День назад

It's almost like no machines are unbreakable. It's just that Boeing planes are slightly more prone to it.

@scottw5315 День назад

@@Murkelsable I was being sarcastic...I'd like to see those stats that show Boeing having more in flight emergencies not due to pilot error or engine failure.

@Murkelsable День назад

@@scottw5315 And I was joking as well, just because of Boeing's current reputation. :P

@eirinym День назад

It's United though. The past months, this whole year really, United has had many many incidents related to maintenance. I think management probably made some bad calls about deferred maintenance or overworking maintenance crews. This is what happens.

@MCVirtue 2 дня назад

Did ATC really just ask if there is an urgency to get you back?? I mean just the cowling fell off so yeah go ahead and just put us back in line.

@malahammer 2 дня назад

They weren't sure nor were the flight crew and it was up to the pilot to declare anyway. There was no urgency in the end.

@qwerty112311 2 дня назад

and what did the pilots say? no urgency. Of all the places _not_ to make assumptions, in the air is at the top of the list.

@kewkabe 2 дня назад

It's not critical for flight so it's not necessarily urgent.

@jamescollier3 День назад

it's just 70% cosmetic. 30% wind resistance help. no emergency

@ardeladimwit День назад

not critical and doesn't actually impair flight operation, particualrly the fairing.

@fra93ilgrande День назад

Definitely NOT Airbus’ fault 😅😂

@davestevens4193 2 дня назад

Emergency usually comes with a sense of urgency. Let's just get in line...right.

@mkkm945 2 дня назад

Emergencies are varied. In this case, it's more of a "stay alert" than "my plane's on fire" situation. A flap track fairing is an aerodynamic part but not functional. It's a cover. Like losing one's hood while driving. Not gonna stop anything from working, but gotta get back to base to fix.

@malahammer 2 дня назад

They weren't sure nor were the flight crew and it was up to the pilot to declare anyway. There was no urgency in the end.