I completely agree. The king should clear the paths, by eliminating obstacles and overhanging projections, if he wants the monarchy to continue and succeed.
This goes to show that spoiling a royal, as was so often mentioned regarding Andrew, is a setup for future unpleasant scenarios. If only the attitude of Princess Royal Anne might be the norm the British Royal Family would be in a more positive light.
The royal family are trash look at how much scandal has dogged this incestuous fmaily. We are ment to look upto them 😂😂😂 lets just remeber king charles two of his closest msntors in lord mountbatten and peterball were prolific p3dos and lets not forget jimmy saville hes got abit of a cheek to have a pop at andy doesnt he....get rid of them all
Don’t blame King Charles for Andrew. His mamma protected him his entire life. Charles has not been king that long. Charles tried to get rid of him but it was her decision to protect him at all cost.
And now that protection is no longer there. I bet Harry Silver-spoon and Mee-Again will chime in some where to dig at the family. I can't wait to see whose on the list! Epstein, still putting the sting on long after he's dead. We'll be hearing about suicides soon.
Totally agree. The king is not responsible for Andrew’s actions, Andrew is. This is called personal responsibility. Another case of the “ golden child”, both Andrew and Harry were spoilt and are very arrogant an entitled as a result. They are a disgrace and embarrassment to the family. Edward has not caused problems and is still happily married, so is William. Andrew and Harry both seem to be sorely lacking in morals as is Meghan. Truth will always eventually come out.
As usual I agree wholeheartedly with Tom Bower 💯 Edit: he's one of the very few journalists who doesn't talk down to his audience and doesn't insult our intelligence by infantilising the topic he's talking about.
I find it hard to believe that over the years the Queen and Prince Charles knew absolutely nothing about Andrew’s dodgy friendships and sexual activities. His Royal Protection officers would have seen a lot, plus out of the norm trips would have caught the eye of the Royal Household. Maybe he was difficult to control.
How can you even compare Harry to Andrew that's a disgusting accusation to make. And being spoiled doesn't make you a peado.... Being nurtured to be one and allowed to get away with it whilst the Queen and his brother Charlie protected him does...... Harry is nothing like them. He has his mother's kind spirit and got away from the firm before they completely destroyed him like they did with his mother!!!
@rebeccadurant3624. You think? It's quite obvious that you don't think. If you did, you would be capable of weighing up both sides of the story. So, no balcony appearances, kicked out of Frogmore, no invitation for Christmas, no front seat at the coronation, no military uniform to be worn by Hazmat, no money for the middle-aged whinger, no apartment in Windsor Castle for the grasping American yacht-girl,... Anything else? No? So think on that. WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHY AND THE KING ANSWERS TO PARLIAMENT. TRY OPENING A BOOK BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH, OR YOUR COMPUTER.
His brother, king Charles, is not strong enough person to do the right thing and tell both Andrew and Harry and his wife, that it's over, done, you're out. What a disappointment!
They’re no longer working Royals, so there’s not much more he can do. He can’t make them disappear, or stop the other running crazy with their PR in the media. All three do have rights of their own.
@@luxpursuits Only Parliament can take the Duke title, and deal with the LoS. I don’t see any real desire amongst MP’s. Sunak flat out refused to support the bill,enabling a Parliamentary committee to remove Royal titles. Now that is dead. Removing them from the Royal website will only give Harry & his wife more attention than they deserve. Plus, it will achieve nothing, in terms of the curbing duo’s damaging attacks on TRF.
Change the TalkTV channel name to TalkOVERTV. BOTH hosts were rude to Tom Bower and cut each other off repeatedly. Narcisism at its needy best. Tom Bower should have been given more respect.
The male commentator is extremely rude (AND LOUD) - he continually talks over his different female co-hosts AS WELL AS his guest speakers. Very conceited to blurt his point of view, repeatedly. Another Dan Wootten (God help us), but not worse than Piers Morgan (yet). Sorry for the rant; not a fan of multiple speakers for just this reason
*THIS!!* The male host was the worst, he kept interrupting and speaking over the female cohost and Mr. Bower, when I wanted to hear what they were saying, damn it!
I met someone a couple of years ago who worked at Windsor castle who also said Andrew was the most entitled person she ever met! She said he not very nice to people.
Oh, well, of course that settles it. Your anonymous source "who worked at Windsor Castle" MUST have an in depth knowledge of the personalities of every member of the royal family.
The problem is that traditionally, the RF members could get away with a lot of things that the public would know nothing about. The advent of social media and smaller cameras has meant that, like everyone else, they can be held more accountable for unwanted behaviour and this will get worse. Years ago, the press would have been shut down, the public in the dark. The main interest of any Monarch is to keep on the throne and to make sure it is all handed down to future generations. Like them or loathe them, this is a fact. Where other public figures may survive embarrassment, or admit errors, apologise and move on, this is not the case with the RF. So, it is inevitable, that unless they behave with exemplary caution, they are liable to face extortion. The only way to cope with that is to have the strength to say 'publish and be damned!' Admit mistakes and they can't be dangled like a sword over your head and if it is a truly appalling situation, pretty much exile the person involved. I think next year should be rather interesting and many rich and powerful people are going to have a rather uncomfortable Christmas.
"Where other public figures may survive embarrassment, or admit errors, apologise and move on, this is not the case with the RF. So, it is inevitable, that unless they behave with exemplary caution, they are liable to face extortion." >> Enter Meghan Markle ...
Why can't Andrew go to church with his family❓That women used to traffic her school friends before Andrew was in the picture Why wasn't she prosecuted 17 is legal in the UK is it not ❓
G Maxwell has been prosecuted. She got 20 years in prison. If they had any proof of Prince Andrews guilt, they would have done the same to him. In fact, G Maxwell said he had noting to do with it. And what about all the other men they know about? Why haven’t they been named, shamed and prosecuted? Talk about deflection.
You mean a sex slave was compelled to do things as a sex slave? How odd. Where’s your anti-pederast energy gone to? Cause I don’t see you condemning it.
I’m American. I think Andrew is guilty and I’m sick and tired of all these high profile men not being held responsible for what they’ve done in association with Epstein.
I think he did did those things with Epstein under false pretences! Do I think he slept with those girls? Yes! Do I think it was done under the premises that the girls were 18 years or older? Absolutely! Epstein destroyed many lives and reputations not just the people he abused but the people he associated with as well! He is also responsible for the breakup of Bill and Melinda Gates marriage!
Yet no one ever says the Queen spoiled that man..don't blame Charles...mummy grew that MMs daddy grew that princess daughter that threw him away. Everyone is flawed...even the great Elizabeth.
I think Queen Elizabeth was truly a great lady and exceptional monarch but not mistake proof. She did pay Andrew's accuser trying to keep that scandal quiet (it will never be quiet) and agreed to let Harry marry "the thing" which was a huge mistake. Granting them their titles of Duke and Duchess that they are now exploiting was also a mistake. I do think that she had a really bad situation on her hands with the Markels, though. The RF had probably never faced a person like Megan marrying into the family and she made the best decision she could and hoped for the best. She was very sick and weak when Harry was badgering her about Megan and may this great lady be resting in peace now.
@@saritamullins8294 Personally, I think the Meghan situation is worse than any of us knows. Many people think that she knew Andrew well before she met Harry ... intriguing theory.
Why are you sours bringing up the Markles in a story about the Queen paying off a sex slave like a pimp, or her son putting her in that position? Are you unhinged? Are you a pederast yourself, seeking to downplay your crimes? Or are you a racist cow? @@saritamullins8294
Too late. Their kids are all brats already. George already being an entitled prick in school and didn’t the young one slap his mom in the face and tell her to shut up
Stuff and nonsense! Andrew’s been completely ousted from public life and we hear nothing more from him and that’s just fine. If they want to allow him to be part of the family to go to church at Christmas and various other family get-togethers, then so be it. What possible harm is that to anyone else? Get over it. The only remote presence of Andrew in public life is when you start discussing it! So stop.
No blaming King Charles for all of this mess. The Queen knew how immoral and stupid Andy has always been. She was the one far too lenient. He and Fergie the grifter need to vacate Royal Lodge. She covered for him. What a horrible example Andrew and Fergie were all those years living together unmarried right in front of the girls. The dysfunction of all of them is embarrassing.
@@connorthekid1 exactly I think there is more going on here, don’t know what but he was never as bad as was reported, he married had two beautiful kids, his wife although divorced still loves him? There is an agenda but I don’t know what it is. I feel so bad for his beautiful daughter s
Andrew doesn't give 2 hoots for anyone. His history and his arrogance goes back a long way when he was prevented from a relationship with KS a popular star at the time.
I also heard that the payoff was to quieten things during the Jubilee. The Queen was sick and weak at this point and it's easy to understand her reasoning. Poor lady did not deserve the stress Andrew and Harry put on her at the end of her life.
Doesn't anyone ever wonder who has viewed those (blackmail?) tapes that Epstein filmed in his residences? Maybe this is why the Guiffre case was settled instead of brought to trial. Fergie was implicated too as she borrowed money from Epstein...
I agree with Tom Bower. The continued leniency of the BRF towards these two men (one who is walking around with hand grenades hurling them at regular intervals and another who has brought the needle of suspicion to point at the entire Royal family) indicates something very sinister like blackmail in the background. I am sure the King is afraid just like his mother was before him.
What do you want KC to do? QE2 removed him as a working Royal, and patronages have gone. He’s out of the Public eye. I have no sympathy for Andrew, but I don’t know what else can be done, unless criminal charges are brought. This is not Edward & Wallis time, so he can’t exile him, he won’t comply.
He’s out of public eye. Apart from family events his not present. What more do you bloody want? And where’s the proof he did anything wrong? He didn’t settle for 12 million, that was pure media speculation. They know nothing.
So what else can be done? Don't give me this guff about Windsor Lodge, he has a 75 year lease. If it ever came to the push I'd sooner have Andrew and his daughters in the line of succession than Harry. NO ONE CALLS out who America is protecting with the Epstein cases - no it's just that royal Andrew !! Sick to death of it. THE CASES ARE OUT OF TIME, Andrew is a good diversion tactic to keep discussion away from others. I've no time for Andrew, but there remains nothing - all rather like the witch hunt of people like Rolf Harris.
The proof of guilt is… he paid the 12 million… 🙄 The Epstein logs are being released soon… this guy is doney done done! Can’t wait to see who else is on that list from that wretched family.
Not in this case. Andrew had his chance to go to Court, and he settled outside of it, so in that case I think the public have every right to presume his guilt or innocence, without the legal process of proof either way.
@startracker5895 She's pretty close to since she's a Ho. 3 husband's and willing to bed an old man for money etc.. He's just a follower wanting drugs and such.
Quite frankly it’s both, one is an entitled sleazebag who thought he was above the law and the other is an entitled traitor who also thinks he’s above the law.
@maggiebarrettbarrett5684 Because every tot that has been in his prior orbit will come out with a wild story for cash. The last settlement was a mistake. That women was of age and a known grifter.
I agree, unlike the Sussex’s, Prince Andrew has kept his head down, accepted the situation and has not made any attempt to whine and complain like his nephew and has remained quiet since stepping down from public duties! And unlike his nephew, he didn’t turn his back on his family or his country!
That was in the time of the late Queen Elizabeth, when the mantra of "Never complain, never explain" still applied. The Duke of Sussex has broken with that tradition by taking legal action against the British tabloid press and, as a result, they (together with Talk TV) have run an endless campaign of denigration against him. Now that he has been vindicated in his suit against The Mirror, the tide is beginning to turn,.
Andrew will not be appearing in any Family Xmas photo shoots or at the Christmas day service. It would be very insensitive and intolerable. Charles may not be the strongest, but he's also not stupid.
I am so distressed by yet another Charles is weak statement! He is a deeply religious man who takes seriously the importance of forgiveness . I don’t know how widely the particulars of his childhood may be in this group, but he was gentle, shy, polite and kind almost from the cradle, and very unfortunately both his parents found such a temperament strange, even perhaps alarming for a BOY. Prince Philip was extremely strict with him as a result and it amounted to genuine trauma and suffering. That’s a ridiculously short summary but it’s all I’m going to say.
We're talking about a man who raped a trafficked child sex slave, whose mother paid her off, like a common pimp. Stay on topic, you racist pig. @@stj971
King Charles has damaged the monarchy (at least in my eyes) by his lack of action regarding Andrew and Harry. Not sure that the monarchy will survive it until William takes the throne.
It is far past due that Andrew and Sarah truly be "retired" entirely from association with the Royal Family. Not buy them off, not make other arrangements for them! Same for Harry and Meghan. If the Royal Family doesn't take firm, decisive action to no longer support and placate traitors of their own family and protect the Monarchy, then the Monarchy will cease to exist before the Prince and Princess of Wales succeed to the throne. JMHO
Harry and Andrew both need to disappear, not by death, but just by being respectful to the queens memory, they both can start their own businesses, and charles can pay them out of his own pockets
@stj971 I agree, but the victim took a payout, which prevented any proper judgement from that day,so he has paid at least by public shaming.lets see what happens in 14 days when the client list is released
I think many of us think emotional blackmail is an extremely lame reason for protecting a grown man !! An all the time he’s being looked after it’s us taxpayers that are effectively paying his income and lording it prince like when we ourselves struggle to feed our own families 🤬
Another plonker that doesn’t realise they do pay their own way, the only family member that doesn’t pay taxes is his Majesty and Andrew other than his mothers funeral is rarely seen, should he not have attended his brothers crowning how odd, you think the Duke of York should have just not appeared at either his own mothers funeral or his older brothers crowning. Other than when the media decides to trumpet him about and is that his fault? I think your just being petty
The spares seems to act out!!.. I can imagine theres alot of cover ups to protect them, they are suppose to set example but in the end they become entitled and think they are above the law, just because they are royalty.. I hope King Charles reign is short only because when Prince William takes the throne he will do the right thing, that the late Queen and King Charles couldn't do because of their love for Harry. Has he told us in his book "whaagh" the brothers have never been that close..if your to believe him he's threw his family under the bus but not uncle Andrew. Why is that? Is it because Andrew knows his wife?
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Meghan? That’s easy. She’s beautiful, sexy, and a California girl. They look better than spotty, alcoholic, pale, unhealthy British chub-chubs like you. Suck it up, chubbers.
The more Tom Bowers talks the more I believe he is an anti-monarchist. I’ve been coming to this belief over the past 3 years. It’s not based on any particular interview but his overall opinions.
Look at reckless King Edward, with his hundreds of mistresses. The public forgave him because he was nice to everyone from every walk of life and he even looked after all of his women. Even his wife Alexandra allowed him to sleep around. That suggests Edward to be very entitled, yet he was forgiven because he did not act entitled and never looked down on anyone. That is a lesson that Andrew never learned growing up. Even though her younger kids were spoiled by Queen Elizabeth, it is funny how our Prince Edward turned out to be the opposite of Prince Andrew! I guess Andrew was just a bad egg..
The future of the monarchy is now severely jeopardized by the kings unwillingness to take action on members of his familly. Either from weakness or blackmail.
I've always thought that when a person/company offers to settle out of court they are on a sticky wicket if it did go to court because if it did it would cost them even more so they make an offer hoping the other party will accept and not want it dragged out any longer. As for Andrew he always strikes me as being very arrogant and a snob, full of his own importance. I doubt he will disapear, he likes the limelight. When all this was happening I wonder where his body guards were, they must know a thing or two?
King Charles needs to act now and not leave it to poor William to sort out. Both Andrew and that treacherous snake Harry need to be removed from the line of succession immediately.
The pederast, sure. But I’m sorry to burst your eager, racist little bubble. Those mixed race children are staying in the line of succession. Suck it up, racist little sour. Suck it up. Bank on it.
So William can miraculously do what Charles cannot. Not without BREAKING THE LAW OF THE LAND he can't but I suppose he could do what everyone wants and destroy the monarchy in the process. I'm actually beginning to think that that is what all these people actually want, they WANT him to act as hot headedly as his stupid younger brother would and destroy the monarchy.
Titles, line of succession and COS can only be removed by Parliament passing legislation to allow it. William would have no more authority than his father, they are both constrained by Constitutional Law and answerable to Parliament.
Sleeping with prostitutes is wrong but harry has done this since his teens and he wouldn't of got banned for that hes banned for slagging the rf off and the books etc
IMO, Prince Andrew had no choice but to settle with V.G. It was her late Majesty's Platinum Jubilee and she was in very poor health. The Americans went after P. Andrew knowing he was an easy/soft 'target', whilst people like Clinton, Gates and other 'powerful' people from Business and Judiciary weren't touched !!!! Having said that, it also has to be mentioned that V.G. case was not strong enough to go to Criminal Court, her 'victory', (pushed hard by her American lawyers and to divert attention away from the likes of Clinton and Gates) instead, went through Civil court. There is much less evidence needed and generally is based upon 'the balance of probability' ‼ This isn't true justice, especially as it wasn't tried in a criminal court of law. The interview with Maitless was poor, yes. I have no doubt that P. Andrew is not nice, ie. Entitled, privileged, spoilt, etc., but these traits do not make him guilty. He hasn't slagged off his family or made up cr@p about his family to damage them either. For Tom Bower to infer that Andrew 'may have information' that would hurt KCIII or the RF is abhorent‼ We've had years of LIES from Hazbeen FFS ...... Tom, stop being a nasty Tw @t and refrain from your very mean and unproven inferences ‼😠
Lets not forget so many were acquaintances of Epstein and Maxwell. ... there are pictures proof also of Trump and Melania friendship with Epstein and Maxwell....
Ugh! I dislike Tom Bower almost as much as I dislike the Harkles! He is constantly bashing KC for being too weak! I am quite sure the King is being advised BY EXPERTS on how to deal with both Prince Andrew and the gruesome twosome! Meghan is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a narcissist, probably with other mental illnesses as well. The King is handling their constant attacks and lies just as he should, by ignoring them. Responding to their constant barrage of rubbish would be stooping to their level, and giving them the fuel they so desire. By keeping quiet (never complain, never explain, actually the late Queen’s mantra), they are allowing the Harkle’s to sink their own ship! And it’s sinking at record speed. And I’m sure he’ll handle PA just as cleverly! Sadly, I did buy Bower’s book about the Harkles! I will never support the pot stirring a**hole again! Long live the King! God bless the real Royal Family!🇺🇸
Right here's the thing...many things actually 1 I am NOT an andrew fan (nor charles or camilla) I WAS a fan of HMTLQ and her monarchy and legacy 2 andrew has NOT been found guilty of anything officially, therefore innocent until PROVEN guilty 3 are we not supposed to be christians? but we're baying for his blood and exile? 4 the Sandringham Christmas service, is the Royal Families PRIVATE family Christmas service...NOT a public event, the fact the public stand around outside hoping for a glimpse and that they graciously stop and chat is NOT THE POINT so NO andrew should not be excluded from a PRIVATE CHURCH SERVICE...if you don't want to see him there don't watch it on TV
Andrew isn't the first time the RF has felt embarassment. They have taken advantage of their position throughout history. Andrew's behavour is mild in comparrison. The media enjoys making things out to be worse than they are and the public sucks it up. There is no reason anyone should question Andrew going to church with the RF. They are his family. Andrew didn't slam his parents in a book for the world to read. I am sure there is lots he could tell but he doesn't. He remains loyal to his family and keeps his mouth shut. He protects his mother's legacy and leaves his brother Charles to get on with the job. The queen had flaws too. None of them are perfect.
At seventeen I left home. I knew exactly what I was doing. Probably made a few mistakes. However you are at the age of consent. As i saw it Andrew was targeted because of who he was. The girls were there for the lifestyle and money. Im probably very unpopular for saying this.
He had sex with a prostitute. Plenty of men drop their trousers and she knew exactly what she was doing. Im not particularly fond of him but we need to get over this. And its not unusual to do a payout. He did the right thing by doing so in the hope it will go away. But of course you lot wont let it.
Well said. It’s mainly his critics who would attack the King no matter what he said or did. Some people are also gullible and believe everything the media, rumours and opinions of people (which are often biased) as truth. King Charles is showing strength in standing his ground and ignoring Harry, while getting on with the job.
This is a lot of speculation without evidence. Andrew appears to have become a suspiciously convenient whipping boy. I can't help but wonder if this media frenzy is a distraction and what, exactly, is it we are being distracted from.
@@SuperStella1111 It would be easier to list people, involved with charities, who were NOT pictured with Savile. Back in the day he was a huge star, whose well crafted facade exerted an equally large draw for charitable organisations events. I have seen no evidence that Charles was aware of Savile's predilections..
"The hate given to Harry" is easy to explain. The Duke of Sussex had the courage to turn on the tabloid press and take legal action against both The Mirror and The Daily Mail. They have repaid him with a stream of derogatory "exclusives" based on speculation and gossip, all designed to paint him in the worst possible light, and they have poisoned the public mind against him. Now, however, that the Duke has won his case against The Mirror, The Daily Mail might do well to scale back its attacks.
Andrew, MM, Camilla, Charles, and Harry need to go away. The Royal Family needs to clean the Castle! . QE2 created all of this, and allowed the behavior being a mother instead of a Queen. Now Charles is being a father, and brother first instead of being a King. Crown Prince William is the only one to save the Monarchy.
I watch this channel all the time. What I would like to state is that it: is wrong to suggest Andrew should not attend. Church is just wrong. God is above people and the Monarchy. Each of us will be accountable for the words that we say. *** Where was this girl before? Why are the names of the other guilty parties not released? Why can't the judge ask for that? Seems to me Andrew is being targeted. An indirect attack to hurt the Monarchy.
