@@secondchairmusic couldnt appreciate what? imagine you want to hear that famous thing for years and finally get ticket and he is playing smth else or modified. obviously ppl were frustraited. do you understand there wasnt any iphones back in time to listen correct version Rach playing himself, right? and yes another dumb misleading clickbait headline phrase. LOLOLOL
@@TiberiiGrakh I can't tell if you're being serious or not...I sure hope not. Only a really, *really* dense person (or perhaps a child) would be serious in writing such a response...
You can, actually. There's a recording on zhe internet of him performing Liszt's HR2 with an improvised coda at the end (or at least i steongly presume so).
@@secondchairmusicas the other guy said there is a recording on yt of Hungarian rhapsody n.2 and he improvised the candenza ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-srWOlCnY0K0.htmlsi=069msRUCzQvOxkMU skip to the 8 min mark
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Imagine getting sick of your own stuff. LOL. I also read that he was frustrated when his later compositions, works that he felt were faaaarrr superior to this prelude, didn't seem to resonate in the same way with the public. I totally understand his frustration; if I were in my 50s, with 30 years of experience in composing, I'd also be irritated as hell if people only wanted to hear the piece I wrote as a teen. 😂😂
@@secondchairmusic To me it's still a great composition and I love to play it. And teenagers for sure have their magic moments. Nowadays' bands also sometimes had top-hits and get bored to play them again and again. But this can be the price of success. 😉
@@secondchairmusic”Imagine getting sick of your own stuff.” Even I was not proud of my own music I wrote because they may sound lazy and also the fact I was in a hurry writing them
When I was a music major in college, my teacher asked me what the enharmonic equivalent to B-flat is. As a joke I answered him Sir! I cannot answer the question because I cannot C-Sharp! He had great laugh over that one
@@secondchairmusic he got tired of it... Not sure if everyone actually called him Mr C Sharp, but, I know Josef Hofmann definitely did... Used to write him letters addressing him as that just to troll him... 😂
I had a custom shirt made that says “weeping may endure for a night, but (Piano Concerto 2) will come in the morning” , because I love the story behind it 😂
Are we going to talk about how his incredible piano concerto no. 2 was written as a gift to his doctor. I don't know about you, but I'd be honored to have a piece written about me.
@garyallen8824 A bad premiere is literal hell for any composer. Reviewers were disxusted by the performance auch that they mocked the very name of Sergei Rachmaninoff. I've person wrote, "A pile of rubbish." With such a dirtied repitation, it's no wonder why despair consumed his heart.
The wild thing is there’s a recording of him playing the piece and people were still in the comments “correcting” his dynamics tempo etc. like give the man a break! he’s tryna keep it fresh. rip king
@@secondchairmusic You absolutely should! Rach is probably one of the greatest composers of all time, paving the way of the romantic era just as Chopin did.
Very true. Op 23 no 6 is a little gem. Magnificent! And it's not the only gem amongst his preludes. His c# minor prelude has become the newer "für Elise". So often played that you get tired of hearing it.
His romances are worth a listen too, I'm particularly fond of 'how fair this spot' with the cello, or the Volodos arrangement for solo piano know as 'where beauty dwells' both the same piece Op. 21 No.7.
It’s funny how he is known and famous to many for his piano pieces snd concertos, but I only know and listen to his brilliant orchestral works like the 2nd and 3rd symphonies and the Symphonic Dances.
@@tamjg Yes indeed. Only seemingly envious people or those who were turned off by beautiful music bashed him. His style of music became the cornerstone and inspiration for countless film scores, as you surely know. Yet certain critics hated him for it, incomprehensibly so. It boiled down to good versus evil is my best explanation. "I owe to God the gifts given to me, to God alone. Without him, I am NOTHING!" Sergei Vasilievitch Rachmaninoff 🎶🙏🙏🙏🎶🙏🎶
They were seeing a genius not only perform his own piece that made him famous, but also saw him live, improvising and improving upon it, but they ridiculed him for it, how shameful and disrespectful. 🤦🏻♂️
Если бы он её не продал так, он бы не стал лучшим из лучших! Для некоторых деньги это весь смысл жизни. Но для людей духовно нравственное развитых, деньги это только средство достижение цели. С уверенностью можно сказать, что Сергей Васильевич стал как самым известным, богатым и лучшим композитором, так и патриотом своей многострадальной Родины, музыку которой он отражал в каждом своём произведении. Каждая его нота- это большой рассказ о любви и преданности, это повесть о нескончаемой и глубокой любви к своему народу и Родине.
My oldest public videos on RU-vid are from when I was 19…I can’t believe I thought my playing sounded good. 😂😂😂 straight trash. I would delete them, but I kinda wanna leave them up as a memory for my fam in case I die randomly (sorry for getting so morbid) 😬😬.
@@secondchairmusic Embrace that old you, I remember I improvised multiple happy birthdays for a friend in every style from Baroque to Jazz, recorded them all, still have them and it might did not sound so pianistic or well made, it was when I was in the Romantical zone, Now I am all Atonal, completely different but seeing your own changes is good to know you are somewhat at it.
@@Aleksandr_Skrjabin They're amusing to listen to...all out of tune. 🤣I really thought I was doing something. LOLOL I cherish them as my first real attempt at growing on RU-vid (even though they make me cringe).
@@secondchairmusic I understand, I would've also, but in the very future you will be grateful you still have it recordings, also at every growing point you will think that you did nothing much in your previous version, even when that previous you is just weeks fresh, same goes for Compositions, don't throw any progress away. There is only one of you and your playing, there are always people saying: I like his younger version, or older version better. We are not to criticize ourselves, and I tought we should, but even when it comes to the virtuoso pianists, they themselves did not crown them, it was the public all around, educated, non educated, teacher, students, everybody gives a person their titles.
@@Aleksandr_Skrjabin That's very sound advice. I regret not saving more of my recordings from when I was a kid. I made so many recordings of my playing back when I was 11-13, but I never uploaded them out of fear of getting roasted. I ended up deleting all of them in the end. Oh, how I would love to see young me again...
I love all of his music but Piano Concerto 2 and Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini have my heart Also his piano concerto 1 movement 2 is amazing as well!
He needed the money when he left Russia. Other than concerts he had no way to make a living. Later on, he had some conducting jobs tossed at him. But he didn’t like to conduct. He made lots of money from his concerts, but had to re-learn a lot of other composers’ works. (Particularly Chopin, whom he adored). It is possible for great composers to get tired of their own hits. Not so Ravel, who considered Bolero a “joke.” But he made a fortune from it. He did not resent it. But he did get tired of it. But he LOVED the money. Brahms was seriously JEALOUS of Johann Strauss. He was intensely aware of the popularity of the “Blue Danube.” The problem Brahms had with it is that Brahms actually loved it, and thought it was a wonderful work. Brahms actually liked Strauss’ music. Which made Strauss popularity even more irritating. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
He still should've secured it in Germany and France or wherever else the copyright system was well developed. His prelude was popular in several countries, so he could've collected....something...at least a lil' bit of change!!
What you said about Russian copyright law is true, but seeing as how his work was published in other countries, where they became immensely popular, someone should’ve advised him to secure the rights to it. 😔 Years later, when he was married and had two young children, those royalties would’ve come in handy!
@@secondchairmusic at our student recital when I was a teen, we had a guest player who played this piece. And he was blind! His wife led him up to the piano. Blew my mind
Oh, wow! That’s incredible! Even with my sight, I frequently have to look down at my finger when playing anything on piano; my feel for the topography of the piano is NOT there!! 😭😭
Dear Monique I am so happy to have discovered just now your fine channel. Perhaps you know that Walt Disney fllm studios produced a Micky Mouse cartoon where he played this immortal piece. When Walt Disney invited Rachmaninoff to a tour of the studios, he played the cartoon for Rachmaninoff, who expressed his appreciation for this delightful animated performance by "Maestro Micky Mouse." I left two remarks to commenters. Sadly, both Puccini, (I just watched your video) and Rachmaninoff smoked and died from cancer.😢 Thanks for creating this channel to share interesting "tid-bits" on the great personages of "classical music." There are so many. 🥂🎶🥂🎶🥂🎶🥂
@@miltonmoore8369 Thank you so much for your kind words! I appreciate it immensely! That’s an interesting anecdote you shared. I knew Rach toured the Disney studios at one point, but I didn’t know that Walt played that excerpt for him! Very cool!
I like his other preludes more than his C# minor one. For example Op.32 No.5, No.10 and No.13. His Etudes tableaux op.39, Piano Sonata No.1 in D minor Op.28 and Piano Sonata No.2 in Bb minor Op.36 (1913) are also among my favourite works
It was real unfortunate because most of his works after, he was still being only known for the prelude. When he premiered his first symphony, which went a disaster, he fell in a deep depression and writers block. Only until Nikolai Dahl his hypnotherapist helped him through sessions in which he wrote his other famous works and personally my favorite the Piano Concerto 2.
I can imagine how frustrating that must've been for him. All that work towards improving his craft, just for it to be overshadowed by a piece he wrote as a teenager.
@@secondchairmusic Not sure, as solo “recitals” as we know them didn’t exist back then, but he was irritated by its popularity, and said “Surely I’ve written better things.”
I always think of Beethoven and Chopin when I think C# minor. Even though it's because of how specific pieces. (Fantasie impromptu and moonlight mvmt 3)
Ему не обязательно играть, то что он сочинил, главное, что он композитор, а играют пусть все, кто сможет сыграть его музыку, довольно своеобразную, сложную, но необыкновенно мелодичную, духовно- нравственную.. Композитор - это сочинитель, творец, на века...
Don't forget, recording was in very early development, so all the other pianists who were playing pieces for others were probably similarly tired. Obviously it didn't eclipse their musical identity but i thought it was worth mentioning
Ravel and Rach not knowing their work makes me think of composing back then as something done in the same vein as using FL Studio and not knowing how to play what you just wrote..
Basically,Rachmaninoff composed this piece based of his nightmare. The nightmare was about him in a funeral church,seeing everyone very sad,he gained confusion and walked to the coffin. After opening it he saw himself completely *dead.*
Never heard of this tale, but hey we are on Tik Tok. What I read on many books is that he was so tired of it that he called it the “it” prelude, because at every recital, people shouted: “play it!”
Never used TikTok in my life. This anecdote was recounted to Victor Seroff by Rachmaninoff himself, in an interview in his later years. What you’ve written is essentially how the anecdote goes, so I’m confused about how you’ve never heard of it…😅😅 But the “it” prelude is news to me! 😂😂 That’s funny.
@@secondchairmusic Once R. went to attend his cousin’s, Alexander Siloti, recital and warned him: “don’t you dare play “it” as an encore; I will leave if you do.” Siloti, started his first encore with the famous A, G-sharp, C sharp sequence and glanced toward the public before hitting the C-sharps, noticing Rachmaninoff already standing up to leave. Siloti, hit the C-sharp, only to switch to Chopin’s Fantasie Impromptu and Rachmaninoff sat down again😂
Reminds me of how Rick Wakeman (keyboardist of Yes) used to just improvise solos rather than reproduce what's on the record (to the exasperation of, among others, singer Jon Anderson) - and some people claimed he "couldn't" play his own solos.
