@@WelshDragon256 The guy is the beneficiary of ridiculous levels of nepotism. His whole raison d'etre is to occupy the space and be average like his buddies. Their worst nightmare is that some nobody, who isnt controlled, hijacks his spot and actually does a good job. That would show up him and all his crew.
100% RIGHT!!! JORDAN IS A TERRIBLE INTERVIEWER FOR THIS REASON. I’ve made the same comment on so many of these podcasts! He needs to watch interviews by the great, and recently departed, Parky!
Proud to call Warren G a fellow countrymen. A human being who lives and breathes the kiwi values. Good luck in France, you deserve all the good that comes your way.
I'm a Scot, i'm 52 & have always been a massive All Blacks fan. I have the jersey. For a country with a population smaller than ours to have been so dominant & feared over the years is amazing. And i've never met or even seen an arrogant nasty Kiwi. You must be so proud to be one. I've never delved into how the rugby team have done it over the years but i'm guessing rugby is drilled into you from a young age, right?
What a fantastic interview. Thanks so much Simon. As a welshman I'm thrilled we have a coach like Warren. He has really bought into Wales and even when he left in other interviews he was still using the expression WE when discussing Wales, even in the current tense. He never left :)
That was great, listening and learning from Warren. Hearing him say how he is prepared to be challenged, shows a great level of maturity and even handedness. Keeping Woke out of rugby is going to be difficult. It is evident as to how it is deeply creeping into the game through the unbalanced distribution of red and yellow cards.
Being woke is not the insult people think it is the word means having empathy for people worse off than yourself and who are attacked for being different sexuality colour etc the word itself has been hijacked....
Wow! What a great interview I loved this. So many things to take from this. Accountability being the first. Honest conversation with Honest people. Keep up the good work. The football referee question was great. 👍
When the Lions toured NZ in 2005, I was working at a bar in Wellington. We had had 15,000 Barmy Army cricket supporters here a year or so before. Before the Lions came it was (well I ) believed there was going to be 50,000 "Barmy Army" (sorry, but they were often complaining types!) coming again and I dreaded it. Well I was totally wrong on that, the Lions supporters weren't the England cricket supporters at all, far from it. They (the Welsh in particular) were just great people, just like us, loved their Rugby and down-to-earth people.. We were sad to see them go. I can see why Gats, an ex-Moo Loo would love Wales, and why Wales would love him. Great interview, great man, --- NZ represent!.
An absolute gentleman. Gats thanks for coming back for one more crack at it with the WRU. Obviously I’ll always back my team - win, lose or draw! But I feel if we can make it out of the group stages at the World Cup anything can happen. Especially with a man like Gats steering the ship.
I think it was a really interesting question how you asked about taking time out from Wales for the British Lions “How does that suit me?” For me, that’s the difference between being a great manager and being a great leader. Management would be selfish (stay here with me) Leadership would be, this is bigger than me, you go and live your dream. Denying him that would be wholly wrong.
The English rugby team are indeed known bottlers. They have lost more grandslam finals 9 and three world cup rugby finals. They are the only team to have lost a rugby world cup final more than once. The evidence speaks for itself.
Gats our man, he'll bring a welsh side together again. May take 2 years but we'll reach the semi finals if we get out of our group , we're a better side the world think .we won't deserve that we're building but this side of the draw we could and knock england out again. ...
I was really looking forward to listening to Warren "the guest" speak, very boring and predictable interview so much so, that the "interviewer" predicted every sentence that Gats was finishing. The "host" finished every one of them off with pride. Maybe that is the difference he asked about between the 2 hemispheres. Skipped the intro, got to 10.15 and i was done.
@@pencilpauli9442you've been brainwashed I'm afraid, or you are lying. conservatives are being arrested for praying silently, and for defending themselves or their property against crime. Pc culture has meant you can get fired for using the words phaggot or retard to a friend, or for even supporting right wing causes on social media. The government now supports the mutilation and grooming of children, the biggest movie of the summer (Barbie) includes about 10 references to the highly radical concept of "the patriarchy" which exposes the creators as being extremist. I mean the trump legal witch hunt is evidence enough that the left holds all the power as does the rishi sunak coup. Nobody believes you as we can see with our own eyes that the world is going woke and unless it's resisted, unless we stop people like you from indoctrinating the young then we will continue to get dominated by the woke.
@alta8029centrism doesn't exist, name me one ideology or set of beliefs that belongs in the "centre" category as opposed to "left" or "right" category. If you think that you're centre then you are probably slightly left with a few right wing opinions, or you are slightly right with a few left wing opinions. People who describe themselves as centre either don't know anything about politics or are uncomfortable in sharing their true beliefs. Either way it's a cop out and should be avoided.
I wish to f#ck that people would stop using the word 'woke' as some some kind of generic derogatory term for weakness or namby-pamby behaviour. Woke in its modern usage means being alert to, and concerned about, social injustice and discrimination. How the f#ck does caring about the wrongs of the world stop somebody being as tough as nails on a playing pitch??? Sorry about the language but I'm seriously pissed off with this sort of behaviour. I'm old enough to have seen how feminism was mocked and derided as just being about burning bras. I would expect better from a public figure like Warren Gatland.
I wish rugby had gone "woke" years ago! I love rugby and played it for years. I always had a big problem with this "We might fight, but we leave it all on the field and have a beer after" nonsense. Rugby was full of disgraceful behaviour back then. This "rugby respect" was complete smoke and mirrors. The British & Irish Lions disgraceful pre-mediated fight with Australia in 1989 and Rob Jones/Finlay Calder's assault on the brilliant Aussie scrum half - You call that a game steeped in respect? I know it has different problems now with big heavy impact players, but I certainly have no desire to ever see off the ball incidents and fights of old ever making a comeback. I'll have woke over that any day of the week.
I think you are mistaken, woke doesn't mean polite or soft, woke is a reference to a set of radical, far left beliefs that have become common in certain sections of society since 2014. The closest that rugby has got to being woke is the disgraceful kneeling during the 2021 lions tour or the WRU banning Delilah. I'm all for respect in the game but the last thing I want to see in rugby is politics, even if I agree with it and share the same views. But I especially wouldn't want to see radical left wing politics given lip service at the rugby. That would truly make it woke and would ruin the sport.
@@d.jparer5184 Thanks for reply. Yes, I am aware that woke is about ideas. But, is it a bad thing that coaches are no longer allowed to F and Blind at players? That shouting at someone in training to go back in and put on their high heels is now considered unacceptable? Similarly, what's wrong with insisting on calling roles "Chairperson" rather than "Chairman" or "Kit Manager" rather than "kit man" if it helps attracts more women to the game? Rugby (like football) no longer puts up with the bad attitude player. They guy who's a bad influence, poisons minds, or is a trouble maker. Similarly, it no longer wants the toxic coach. Surely all that's a good thing for everybody? I certainly don't ever want to see our sport become like another sport which is proudly the opposite of all this. Look at The UFC where their professional mouthpiece Dana White and the large roster of fighters happily swear non stop, call each other derogatory terms, and give brain-dead comments to interviewers which often involves telling whoever it is to "F-Off" if its a question they don't like to the loud acclaim of the audience.
@@JSL2000 it's a good thing if it works. If a coach doing that creates a toxic environment then he should be fired, if it works and they win then he should be given a raise. The high heel comment is still seen as acceptable by the majority of the population. Only woke people would have a problem with that and they are a vocal minority of the population. Yes we are not changing the English language because extremists have issues with it. Kit lady is a term that already exists and you can say you are the chair as a de-gendered way of saying chairman if you insist on that but chairman refers to both sexes anyway. Just because you want the game to be polite and welcoming doesn't mean we should adopt radical left wing talking points about language and gender.
@@d.jparer5184 I'm not looking for the loons to take over! I used to hate the woke crowd and thought Prince Harry had become a joke. But, sometimes within the messages of the woke element is a good 10%-15% which would actually do everyone the world of good. Nobodys calling for the term hooker to be banned in case it offends prostitutes! It's simply a desire to reign in some people who hide behind being a "Big personality". There is no hard left trying to take over etc. Remember years back we were all accused of being health and safety mad? Now we have outstanding health and safety. Those people were also called nutters and kill joys.
@@JSL2000 That's a reflection on how much power, for better or worse, the players have now. They can get coaches sacked if they don't like them. Literally zero to do with woke. There's an interesitng convo to have about the topic that is, as usual, being ruined by people dragging politics in to something that has nothing to do with it. Left and right wing players can get coaches sacked if they don't like them or how they are being talked to if they have enough influence. It's a bi-partisan issue, ha. And as the internet shows, being salty and sensitive is also bipartisan.
The moment with Eramus (sic) making the comment about Wales' toughness and desire has brought tears to my eyes. Great stuff, much like the rest of the interview. Da iawn Warren, da iawn!
Another great interview Simon 👏 Have to say Warren has completely changed my opinion of him. As an England fan, that's not how I perceived him. It's always nice to find someone who isn't how the media portrays them. Top bloke 👍
I honestly think Simon was the most fasinated and intrigued by the rugby mindset when it comes to respect. I would love to see him interview more rugby personalities
As a Welshman it’s great to have such a great man leading our rugby team. The nation has to get behind Warren and the boys in this up coming World Cup. Wales can cause some upsets and get to that final against the odds.
WITHOUT DOUBT, SIMON JORDAN IS A DREADFUL INTERVIEWER, CONSTANTLY FINISHING THE SENTENCES OF HIS GUESTS AND INTERRUPTING THEM. SIMON, THE INTERVIEW IS ABOUT YOUR GUESTS, NOT YOU. PARK YOUR EGO TO ONE SIDE AND LET YOUR GUESTS HAVE THE FLOOR. WATCH THE GREAT AND SADLY RECENTLY DEPARTED MICHAEL PARKINSON TO SEE HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE!
Great interview, some really interesting points around "Woke", not sure Simon was right about this in terms of progress / reset. Mental health is very important but Gats is 100% right, elite sport is a rarefied environment and is tough both physically and mentally. If you are not up to either element, you are not qualified to compete. The players need support and assistance but it has gone too far. The same can be said in business.
Fair play that was one of the best podcasts I've ever seen, Well done Simon. Also good to see you are still holding Eddie Hearn's feet to the fire AKA drug cheating in boxing.
Had a gents evening with Gatland so I know he speaks well generally. A very silly comment & demonstrably false correlation between “woke” & “mental toughness” though. Jordan does nothing to correct him just nodding along like a gormless fool. The literal definition of “woke” is “having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities.” Nothing about mental toughness. And again, anyone proudly stoking these pathetic culture wars & declaring themselves anti-woke, do they really realise what that says about them? Specifically being pig ignorant &/ or racist. Few would disagree that mental toughness is required in elite sport. It’s required to get through the challenges of life, let alone elite sport. But people who suffer mental health episodes are often extraordinarily mentally tough people. The documentary of Ben Stokes is an incredible demonstration of that. An absolute beast, yet reduced to a shell of a man. But the beast returned. That’s real mental toughness, bouncing back from the lowest point you can reach. Countless elite sportspeople that are the very definition of “mentally tough” have suffered from mental health issues. And just to clarify again, “woke” has zero to do with mental toughness. www.dictionary.com/browse/woke
Simon . Complains about woke whilst taking wages from along Sky the absolutely wokest company in the UK. Talksport used to be excellent. Now it's dreadful.
As a Welsh man I'm obviously biased, but I'm so proud to have this gentleman as our coach and thankful for what he's done for the sport and our country.
@Warren Garland - what makes a great coach is adaptability. Living in a woke world is not an issue (and yes it can go too far) but those who can adapt are smart. The fact that you can evolve to being a manager in a woke world speaks wonders to you humanity and leadership. Good leadership is being able to adapt - that is the stuff of wisdom. P.S - the reason why the reference to “girls” is no longer acceptable is because it was used in a derogatory context back in the day. Understanding the power of words is key to adaptability. It is not a weakness (or BS).
It has been genuinely interesting listening to your interviews with Lawrence and now Warren. Thank you for the quality of the depth of questioning…… however, please stop interrupting the interviewee when he is trying to answer you, as we miss the detail of what is being spoken. Keep up the good work, all the best. 😁
