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The greatest war Dominaria has ever seen is in full swing! So steel yourselves for battle, with our Brothers' War “Urza’s Iron Alliance” budget precon upgrade guide! Jordan Pridgen joins us to recruit 10 cards to add (for under $30) and 10 to eliminate to soup up the deck and prepare it for anything Mishra and his forces can throw your way!
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@ShadowMiner2358 Год назад

Brothers war. The perfect set for jimmy’s brother to finally appear

@miggssamonte5292 Год назад

Freddie!!!!

@knoeqlo Год назад

Yass please!!!

@KingTravisVampBlood Год назад

BBC v h

@thestephanoturtleygo Год назад

It'd make for a great Game Knights Episode

@MINEvsWILD1 Год назад

Didn’t know I wanted this until now, what a solid episode that would be!!

@archer111000 Год назад

On first reading Jimmy & Jordan did specify the "affinity for artifact creatures," but it seems like they lose that line pretty fast. By 5 minutes in they're talking about how mana rocks can reduce his cost. They catch it by minute 6, but just watch out that you don't make that same mistake when you're playing him friends!

@jimharris5320 Год назад

True, but those mana rocks will also pay for Urza...

@sethkeeney4327 Год назад

Noticed it immediately

@JordanPridgen Год назад

His constructs care about any artifacts so it still matters

@MrJoakyfran Год назад

The best mana rocks in this decks are cards like the myrs that are also creatures

@joshuatguerra Год назад

this

@JD-ly7sq Год назад

Cut: Darksteel Juggernaut Hexavus Ethersworn Adjudicator Urza’s Ruinous Blast Marionette Master Phyrexian Rebirth Kayla’s Music Box Etched Champion Chrome Courier Filigree Attendant Add: Foundry Inspector Etherium Spinner Mirrodin Besieged Biotransference The Flesh is Weak Organic Extinction Dispatch Dance of the Mance Sicarian Infiltrator Karn Scion of Urza Honorable Mentions: Mystic Forge Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge

@christurner9799 Год назад

What would I replace with tezret

@pinguinoequatoriale Месяц назад

what to cut for those two honorable mentions

@teferitoots8043 Год назад

I like the concept of having affinity on a commander.

@Aldissimo90 Год назад

of course, it's mega value!

@serafimb2319 Год назад

The price tags are nicely animated, but i don't like that they cover up the mana cost. Just letting you know :)

@jomiran1000 Год назад

I wish these Precons came with an Arena redeem code so I could play the deck in Historic Brawl.

@KK-rz8bo Год назад

Brawl is 60 cards though.

@Andrew-qb9bi Год назад

@@KK-rz8bo not historic brawl, it’s 100 cards like commander

@frorociousexpress Год назад

Just picked up this deck as my first commander deck and getting back into MTG. Only played casually for a few months back in 2013. Coming from Yugioh it's a nice change of pace

@jamesrenegade1010 Год назад

Welcome to the community! I love mtg

@romeocano1919 10 месяцев назад

BRO SAME

@DerInselaffe 5 месяцев назад

I came to MTG through the same route a few years back. I miss playing YGO but the insane power creep, lightning fast pace and the bringing in of Link monsters kinda killed it for me. No way my casual, but still quite good deck can compete at locals anymore. Pauper and Commander are just awesome fun and have that schoolyard feel that is now missing for me in YGO.

@titanlord2000 Год назад

I sometimes skip budget upgrade episodes but i'm getting ready to build this deck from scratch essentially. Great episode 👍

@andrewfornes5320 Год назад

Question? Are you building Urza or Tawnos? I'm currently building Tawnos reanimator with many Thopter makers to get the reanimation off. I still dont see the value in Urza, was wondering how someone else is building him.

@titanlord2000 Год назад

@@andrewfornes5320 urza. I dont think tawnos is worth the effort and urza is fairly straightforward. I've been wanting to build an artifact creature commander and urza fits the bill. The other urzas are gonna fit too. Tawnos seems like you need to get too much going for it to take off, and my meta is too fast for it

@p0rta.l_610 Год назад

25:30 is when they show the upgrades

@DJFomorian Год назад

Just be sure if you take out Urza's Ruinous Blast and Phyrexian Rebirth, you're only left with Austere Command as Board wipe (And Organic Extinction if you side this in). The Flesh is weak can't be considered as a board wipe. Maybe adding 1 or 2 more would help the deck to be sure you can see one of those during game play if you need it.

@JK-xw5rn Год назад

good point, I was worried when they said to take out both

@TheGamingHutt Год назад

Loving the sheer amount of command zone content lately!

@pablogarin Год назад

Cards I would add: - Dollhouse of Horrors -> Total yank with this deck! - The Reality Chip -> Play from the top of your deck? sign me up! - Rebbec, Architec of Ascension -> most cases, you have protection from the most common CMC. - Bolas's Citadel -> Artifact, play from the top, also call back to Legends. - Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh -> reduce activated abilities from artifacts, draw engine too, and creates artifact creatures.

@EliyaSelhub Год назад

Nice to see Sicarian Infiltrator on your list. It seemed like folks were sleeping on that one. Any card that compares favorably with Mulldrifter is worth a look.

@nullnull7352 Год назад

Loved this deck, still do. Renamed it to Urza’s Aether Flux Paradox Cannon. Running a few artifact clones, decrease artifact cards. And a few win con pieces. Aeon Engine - For p1 / p2 turns, cucking p3 / p4 out of turns Stonecloud Curio - so I can do a bounce back infini summon using Ornithopter and Phyrexian Walker. And I’ll have to depend on Alela for field hitters to trigger Curio Aetherflux Reservoir - Combo for Curio infini summon, getting myself up to at least 440 hp to snipe all 3 of my opponents Platinum Angel - Just in case someone decides to try and game end Ivory Towers & Well of lost dreams - For life gain / draw engine to support piece gathering and Aether loading Fun times ahead

@kingdrayz5987 Год назад

Not gona lie im super stoked for this deck, i have a ton of ideas.

@Teddywg102 Год назад

Super excited for the precons and this set, I’m not really good with artifact tribal just yet

@Erik_Sjostrom Год назад

I would add strionic resonator for this deck to make 2 constructs on the end step every turn so you would get even more constructs

@wackybman9025 Год назад

Anybody else notice the deck box during the "stats" portion is German?

@dreadedevil4055 Год назад

KREIG der BRÜDER. Sounds metal af.

@appletree4112 Год назад

I don't like Krieg. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

@markusaurelius83 Год назад

Hm, who else expected a section for an upgrade which only includes cards with the old frame?

@Toughmanpaws 8 месяцев назад

Nice, foundry inspector was in the special promo pack with the deck lol

@Shadeslayer-tp4nu Год назад

What a surprise yet another deck urzas saga fits perfectly into totally balanced card

@papertiger982 Год назад

Wow, a good amount of these cards have new art.

@ryanhenderson225 Год назад

Now, I know everything these days combos with Devoted Druid, but Hexavus goes infinite with Devoted Druid! Not in this deck obviously BUT Crashing Drawbridge/another haste enabler, D Druid, and this weird flying octopus manta ray artifact thing becomes infinitely big and kind cool to look at!

@derekketcham1540 Год назад

I'm really looking forward to this deck

@ryanwhite3654 9 месяцев назад

I kmow this video been out for 11 months but im still playing with that commander deck and still loving it.

@thenextchicken Год назад

Preordered both decks. I will likely not upgrade them or only upgrade them with old border cards. Cards with a new frame will only destroy its aesthetics.

@millibillionth Год назад

That was a point I wish they'd focused on a little bit with this guide - cards that exist in old border that would make better inclusions than the 10 they chose to remove

@falandrion2870 Год назад

This deck had me quite excited to turn it into an old border Alela, Artful Provocateur deck. A lot of the pieces are already in the deck or have recently been printed in an old border design (eg Time Spiral Remastered). The main issue seems to be the land base. Rather difficult to improve this without new border cards :/

@AltPlay Год назад

5:05 - Urza has affinity for artifact creatures, not artifacts as a whole. If you have mana rocks, they may help pay for the WUB part of Urza's cost, but they do no contribute to the affinity payment unless they are artifact creatures (some rocks can become creatures on their own, such as the Keyrunes from RTR, but that process is often more expensive).

@KingRorix Год назад

Dang, if only you had watched for about one more minute.

@TheBDLS23 Год назад

Really should watch whole video before commenting

@janmelantu7490 Год назад

Can’t believe y’all didn’t mention Urza’s Saga as a splurge card…it makes Karnstructs and fetches Sol Ring. Plus, it’s Urza’s

@therealax6 Год назад

I was definitely expecting at least a mention of the card!

@jenzo42 Год назад

Clearly because it's primarily a budget upgrade guide. Sure they could also add Mana Crypt etc, but they need to draw the line somewhere, and if you're adding those expensive staples, then you don't really need this video anyway...

@janmelantu7490 Год назад

@@jenzo42 they have a section for splurge cards, and while Mana Crypt is a boring card that can go into every deck, Urza’s Saga is literally named after the Commander of the deck. Also, Urza’s Saga is $30 compared to Mana Crypt’s several hundred dollars, so it’s not as unreasonable for most people to acquire.

@burnoutrodan420 Год назад

I like how you picked the german Version of the Box @Stats Krieg der Brüder; Greeting from the german speaking community. :D

@shawnmcdaniel5504 Год назад

I'm so excited!!!

@lightfut Год назад

I like putting nettlecyst in decks like this to double dip on the karnstruct effect

@Tiennis Год назад

I love that in the Stats part they use the German Box. Krieg Der Bruder!

@cas126 Год назад

Fortuitous Find and Remember the Fallen are good budget cards because they say pick one or both: return target creature to your hand or return target artifact to your hand. So win win.

@danielscully449 Год назад

I building my Tawnos deck like it's a Feldon of the Third Path deck. I already have and love Feldon. Going to make copies of Panharmonicon then start duplicating creature tokens to mimic feldons playstyle. So excited

@andrewfornes5320 Год назад

Same. I already own Feldon and Tawnos just seems amazing. Im doing mainly Thopter Tribal. Cards like Sai and Thopter Shop to get the tokens for my reanimation targets.

@andrewfornes5320 Год назад

I will say, if you dont know, Marionette Master + Nim Deathmantle + Ashnods altar is a nice wincon for it.

@andrewfornes5320 Год назад

Thopter sword combo aswell

@phil5362 Месяц назад

This was fair. I enjoyed this a lot and it helped me with the decision on who and what cards to take out for replacement. One thing I do believe you forgot is card protection/card removal.I’m leaning more toward finding those cards and adding them to a deck just incase of a wipe or two or three. It may be harder to get back up and rolling due to the majority of high mana costing cards in the deck. Otherwise love you guys. I don’t need tv anymore just command zone 😅👌🏽

@dcboi5805 Год назад

the German deck display during the STATS lol

@valkaerion Год назад

Does the deck have any ways to gain life? Because if you add biotransferrance and play it in the first few turns you'll lose a lot of life over the next few turns and I've had it lose be the game when I didn't have a way to get rid of it...

@seancumpton1301 Год назад

There’s one underrated card nobody ever seems to remember that can be game breaking. That’s Wash Out. Yes it is sorcery speed, but your creatures are often colorless. Your stuff stays and your biggest threats don’t.

@Grizzlyfate89 Год назад

I love the retro frames

@keernalc5423 Год назад

Have you guys talked about the Heads I win Tails you lose secret lair delay recently?

@DuelingCharisma Год назад

Worth noting; since Hexavus simply says “remove a counter from another creature you control”, you can actually remove a -1/-1 counter should that situation be applicable!

@chrisfalconbury6862 Год назад

Still can’t decide which precon to get, guess I’ll have to just get both.

@toastytcg1282 Год назад

I disagree with cutting the creature that scale to your artifact count but I’m going in an affinity direction, all the 0 drop artifact creatures and affinity artifact creatures to make sure I can cast Urza turn 4 by the latest and then just all creatures that are either mana dorks to play double duty on getting out urza & creatures that scale to your artifact count. I think Mycosynth would also be insane make all the scale creatures scale to your entire board and also it deters mass artifact destruction since they’ll lose their entire boards too

@2mckayda13 Год назад

Considering both decks share 2 colours and are both artifact focused I'm keen to combine them

@ernestosalinas1091 Год назад

The weirdest part is seeing old frames but the texts aren't super obtuse and incomprehensible

@hiddenleaf414 Год назад

I rarely ask for it but I wish Urza gave the constructs Vigilance too.

@CelticMTG Год назад

For the very first time since Commander precon decks are a thing, I have preordered both of them. I love the old frame treatment so much, this is what Magic cards should look like to me :)

@davidruff4826 Год назад

Not sure if you guys have this pull, but you should tell Ultra Pro to carry more inventory of there new products. The Warhammer sleeves and deck boxes went out of stock on the same day I got an email. It would be nice if that didn't happen.

@LilSenwolf Год назад

Hexivus is infinitely big with devoted druid right?

@joeldean5681 Год назад

I hear artifact decks, and immediately I think of Darksteel forge. Would that card be a good include in this deck and the mishra deck?

@maxxmason3325 Год назад

Would be a great idea for it if you have one but it does cost a bit. Unwinding clock, semblance anvil and foundry inspector are other great ideas with it. Im also swapping out for a terisian mindbreaker and a hulking metamorph. Bit of high costs but more for end game

@neko5699 Год назад

Wow I’ve never been this early

@arcadior314 Год назад

Same

@Teddywg102 Год назад

Same

@itsvigilantt4330 Год назад

I'm join the same train, same...

@Void-qz9hk Год назад

Yes

@francogentile383 Год назад

At last! a home-deck for doomed artisan.

@BagOfTacosForAll Год назад

Can we all just take a moment to hear that cheek slapping between 29:49 and 29:51?

@spudster8887 Год назад

Ruthless technomancer is the first card i would add to this deck tbh. You sac 1 karnstruct, to pump the rest of your karnstructs, he almost functions like a mini createrhoof depending on your boardstate. At the very least he will make a crap tonne of treasures

@blakewolfard4602 Год назад

Have it played it enjoy it, but it NEEDS to refocus out of the box to go wide, the Karnstructs go big on their own. Myr mana dorks and Hangerback walker have done work for me

@JC_One Год назад

Hexavus is being taken out... And inserted into my Grenzo deck!

@thelightwielder Год назад

for that Jugg, since it's stats are based on the number of artifacts does that mean if they are all destroyed it sets Jugg to 0/0 killing it?

@slumdutchmillionare Год назад

Inventors’ Fair would be a great addition

@lukassimonsen2513 Год назад

What about rebecc? it's kind of evasion + it protects all of the artifacts from different removal

@TheBDLS23 Год назад

What's the name? I am definitely adding it if it protects from removal

@lukassimonsen2513 Год назад

@@TheBDLS23 rebecc architect of ascension

@xXxCassemiroxXx Год назад

Tawnos + Intruder Alarm + Palladium Myr + Artifact Creature Token or Tawnos + Intruder Alarm + Palladium Myr (Token). Activate Tawnos' first ability by tapping Palladium Myr, generating {2}. Target the artifact creature token, the ability resolves, Token ETB, Intruder alarm triggers, untap all creatures, repeat until infinite self mill and infinite creature tokens. Win the game with Thassa's Oracle or Lab Maniac by activating Tawnos' second ability (targetting them on your graveyard) or just by having Altar of the Brood on the field. Just... lol

@Tiamatdlord Год назад

I mean these are budget upgrades but there is a way to make stuff good with these strats, the obvious includes that aren't sword-thopter foundry combo seems weird to me. then you can have junk diver-scrap trawler-myr retreiver combo along with krak-cla iron works. since your on tokens use eldrazi monument solves indestuctible issues as well as darksteel forge

@popasmurf6608 Год назад

i am disepointed how can you not mention Padeem, Consul of Innovation. all artifacts have hexproof and you get an extra card every upkeep.

@colyrne Год назад

28:47 where can I get my hands on that card?? 😆 I appreciate the budget upgrades as always!

@shawnmcdaniel5504 Год назад

War hammer 40k deck necrons.

@colyrne Год назад

@@shawnmcdaniel5504 moreso listening to what Jimmy said at that point

@razielwinter Год назад

Mycosynth Golem pairs great with that biotransference

@TripsAhoy Год назад

Activate only as a sorcery realy sucks lol. The fact these decks are all retro frames makes them cool for sure.

@colinhofer7830 Год назад

Don't forget when looking at value of reprints these decks cost 10 bucks more now, but are being compared to decks that costed less with more value....

@ethanboyd2981 Год назад

I'm interested in the deck, will probably buy it, but am not excited about the old borders. I actually prefer the look for modern cards more.

@EliyaSelhub Год назад

Not sure but I think you can get the deck in the modern frame if you want.

@markusaurelius83 Год назад

I actually like the card frame way more than the new ones. It's not just about the border. In the old frames every color looked different (parchment look of the text box etc.) and in the new frame they all look the same.. The only thing that's better in the new frame is that the writing is in black and not white. It's a substantial upside, I give you that, but the overall 'character' of each color is lacking/not at all supported by the new frame.

@jenzo42 Год назад

@@EliyaSelhub Nope.

@moretimeproductions Год назад

Well I have an Esper Sentinel waiting to be put in a deck...

@serrotnodnarB Год назад

as someone who just got into magic with Necron Dynasties: im in

@dennis7156 Год назад

Spend a few dollarinos and grab Unwinding Clock for this deck !!!

@Fivehe Год назад

It’s about to get a reprint in this set

@sebastiendelorme5577 Год назад

That's why I'm hesitant to take out the music box. Seems to me that it's solves the slowness problem.

@MufasaTheMan Год назад

So is Shauna just not part of the team anymore? Did I miss that somehow?

@Naozwc Год назад

You know how strong these precons got when Marionette Master ist one of the first Cuts

@unknown-sw5us Год назад

Am I the only one that when I heard Tawnos ability didn't instantly think about how to make a blightsteel colossus swarm deck lol

@dakyras426 Год назад

Rebbec, Architect of Ascension would be nice in this maybe?

@tubz8439 Год назад

Flesh of the weak will go nicely in my atraxa deck 🌚

@ayties5113 Год назад

Can Hexavus go infinite with Devoted Druid? Druid untaps for the -1/-1 Counter to add Green, then Hexavus uses the Green to remove the -1/-1 Counter to push himself and then goes infinite.

@therealax6 Год назад

Yeah, it does.

@GeekandGlory Год назад

I think this deck will be good with some Vehicles tossed in.

@thatman8848 Год назад

Soo true about urza, my win rate with him is borderline stupid.

@rylanchampion5972 Год назад

I didn't even know is was spoiler season

@markdziamski4859 Год назад

It’s always spoiler season lately

@jordanmartinez1003 Год назад

When does the set drop.

@bastianrhone9390 Год назад

never forget he can poly tyrant combo with urza

@tcgnerd1962 Год назад

did i miss the full deck reveal episode 😮

@lordnicenstein5105 Год назад

Who would Freddy play as though? Who would fit Jimmy?

@t.bodtch7037 Год назад

Hexavus and Devoted Druid will make you an infinite/infinite Hexavus 😎

@steelghost6492 Год назад

Woot!

@TheAnonSamurai Год назад

I blame you for the tezzeret going up twice its "value". 🤣

@No1ofConsequence Год назад

Its interesting that the linked game in the info is Hearthstone for some reason. Is that just me?

@herbhaley5895 Год назад

What's up with the flavor text of Sai, Master Thopterist {18:29}? "Industry without artistry is just a fancy way to fill the junkyeard." Actually, it's not, it's the opposite.

@Ciniseb Год назад

Hey Jimmy, you look tired or like something is going on ? I hope you're doing well, take care of you, we love you

@justinanderson2631 Год назад

What's funny to me is Tawnos has now been printed in all 5 colors now.

@markdziamski4859 Год назад

I thought he was only in red blue and green

@0w3n42 Год назад

@@markdziamski4859 the new one is blue black and white

@markdziamski4859 Год назад

@@0w3n42 oh I didn’t pay attention to the text box

@cherry612 Год назад

This deck really reminds me on a bunch of Alela-Artifact Decks I encountered in the past. Not really unique...

@HavocTheWendigo Год назад

Old Tawnos looks like Christopher Titus lol

@travisdouglas4970 Год назад

These reprints are just my breya deck

@Fives-oy8du Год назад

What are guys thoughts on farewell?

@JordanPridgen Год назад

I think farewell is a great include in the deck. Very versatile.

@pikles3578 Год назад

I remember when these guys used to have time to talk about Commander and every video wasn't a precon upgrade

@ecos889 Год назад

Yeah WOTC are producing way too much product nowadays to really focus on anything.

@egbert5871 Год назад

blame WoTC for having 100 products come coming out or being shown off every fucking month

@derekwray2486 Год назад

Just a note for the show notes lol, it's supe up, not soup up lol

@andrewfornes5320 Год назад

Im definitely building a tribal thopter deck built around Tawnos. He seems like such a nicer commander than Urza. Add in thopter sword combo and some nice reanimation targets. Seems like a deck that builds itself.