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“Why don't you just use a controller with your phone?” 

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@WulffDen
@WulffDen 15 дней назад
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@X91X-km7hp
@X91X-km7hp 15 дней назад
Please review the BSP bluetooth controller series
@joshuapomales732
@joshuapomales732 15 дней назад
My daughter likes to play Roblox on her iPhone, do any of these controllers mentioned work with the 14 to play Roblox?
@DR3WXX
@DR3WXX 13 дней назад
Is there any controllers for andriods for the fold 4?
@X862go
@X862go 9 дней назад
The aspect ratio and the heat 🥵
@disky01
@disky01 15 дней назад
If I have to remove a case, that's a dealbreaker.
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
When it comes to convenience? Yeah. I totally get the appeal though. Maybe you have a new phone and your old one is still very capable so you want to turn it into a dedicated gaming device. Maybe you have a very slim case or already go ceaseless. Maybe, as Wulff said, you have a high end phone, like playing mobile games a lot and don't want a separate device. I'm with you though
@AbimayoXD
@AbimayoXD 15 дней назад
​@@Fernando-ek8jp Yeah I'm on team caseless and I love my kishi v2
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
@@AbimayoXD I can totally see that. I'm too clumsy to go caseless
@DaiChurch
@DaiChurch 15 дней назад
Don’t use a case.
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
@@DaiChurch I can't tell if you're for real or not. At best your suggestion is: "Change the way you are used to using your phone on a daily basis just so you can add a specific accessory that you might not use that often"
@majestyzx9081
@majestyzx9081 15 дней назад
The worst part about games that are in the app store specifically is that a ton of them don't even offer controller support as an option.
@jang.6097
@jang.6097 15 дней назад
Yep. Then i discovered keymapping on android handhelds and now i am ripping all the players in multiplayer games hahaa
@jarrodjob
@jarrodjob 15 дней назад
@maj Thanks for writing this so I didn’t have to.
@DaleonM4
@DaleonM4 15 дней назад
Cod mobile players use from 3 to 10 fingers in comp competitions... So...
@SweBeach2023
@SweBeach2023 15 дней назад
Yeah, have no idea why so very few games support controllers. If spending so much time and money developing in game, how hard could it possible be to add controller support? It's after all only a small number of software interfaces to deal with.
@Stravioska
@Stravioska 15 дней назад
@@jang.6097 what do you use to map keys?
@woozi36
@woozi36 15 дней назад
Cell phone controllers being more expensive than console controllers will always be funny to me.
@wahtari2994
@wahtari2994 15 дней назад
there are cheap ones. but they are very meh doesnt feel good.
@extra4542
@extra4542 15 дней назад
It literally has never made sense to me
@skycloud4802
@skycloud4802 15 дней назад
Some low end handhelds are cheaper than these higher end phone controllers as well.
@clifrebres2618
@clifrebres2618 15 дней назад
Your phone cast more than your console so now what.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 15 дней назад
@@hellotherenameishere. Let alone hundreds of millions.
@eternalprogression
@eternalprogression 16 дней назад
3:13 oh my god that’s my video🫢
@WulffDen
@WulffDen 15 дней назад
omg its the guy
@dolphs__
@dolphs__ 15 дней назад
Are you going to make all the m-cons by hand or with somesort of machine?
@majestyzx9081
@majestyzx9081 15 дней назад
Say the thing!
@JFTSwiertz
@JFTSwiertz 15 дней назад
EVERYONE QUICK SHOW THIS GUY SOME LOVE!
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
I watched your video recently, I wish you the best
@GoroOno
@GoroOno 15 дней назад
Been using a Gamesir X2 Pro with an S23 Ultra for over a year, it takes less than ten seconds to attach. Works flawlessly, and the phone can emulate anything pretty much.
@Stevegresky
@Stevegresky 13 дней назад
Same with my s23! Its full ps2 in our pockets 😮
@ruy7164
@ruy7164 10 дней назад
Is it possible to emulate something on my computer and stream it to my phone and play with the gamersir there?
@nikenbole
@nikenbole 5 дней назад
Yup, lookup sunshine or parsec ​@@ruy7164
@crazystupidgamer
@crazystupidgamer 10 часов назад
Same here. Got the Galileo g8 with my s22 ultra and it's flawless, even with a thick case.
@BasharZapen
@BasharZapen 15 дней назад
I have a Chinese controller [BSP D9] that natively mimics the signal of PS, Xbox, and switch controllers. So, it's perfect for remote play. I recently got an Android phone [Redmagic 9 Pro] specifically for emulation with Dolphin and Yuzu. This setup allowed me to play Nintendo games for the first time, and it has been serving me great. I never take the Android phone or the mobile controller out of the house, so the bulkiness is not an issue for my use case. But in general, mobile [emu] gaming has never been better!
@praveenm5723
@praveenm5723 8 дней назад
BSP is the best and waaay cheaper
@PloopChute
@PloopChute 4 дня назад
I got the D8 a while back and was genuinely blown away by how good it is. For sure, it does feel cheap but it works incredibly well. Hall effect joysticks and triggers in a device I paid like $18 on AliExpress is insane. I use the Gamesir G8 now, but I've been thinking of grabbing the new one they put out. The D10S with the cooling pad on the back. I almost got the D9 as well, but I personally couldn't get over how much it was trying to look like a dualsense. It felt a bit cheesy imo. Different strokes and all that, I guess. Still, BSP is absolutely killing it.
@tomiraiku
@tomiraiku 15 дней назад
I took a phone I no longer use for calling and what not, bought a Gamesir G8 controller, setup a frontend on the device, and now it's a portable gaming handheld for when I go somewhere and I can just play a lot of games on the go without having to lug around some consoles and handhelds.
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
I can see that being a very valid usecase. Capable phone that you no longer use? Why not make it into a dedicated gaming device.
@DthBakesh
@DthBakesh 15 дней назад
This. Old phone plus controller could make you "cheap" alternative for dedicated handheld. I have my old Xiaomi with SD845, decent amount of GC and PS2
@jang.6097
@jang.6097 15 дней назад
Why some consoles and handhelds? Get somethin like the odin 2 and you have the same options as your phone. Some prefer the aestetic of real connected buttons and a 16:9
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
@@jang.6097 that's a handheld. That's a separate, independent device that you have to carry around.
@jang.6097
@jang.6097 15 дней назад
@@Fernando-ek8jp did you read his comment? He took a second phone. So he also has another device right?
@Downhuman74
@Downhuman74 15 дней назад
Probably should've mentioned that Game Pass and Geforce Now will also run just fine with your phone using these devices. In fact, the original Kishi had a version specifically branded with Xbox controller buttons so that it could be used with Game Pass. It works surprisingly well, too.
@ShawnRaz87
@ShawnRaz87 8 дней назад
The Xbox branding is irrelevant any version will work with game pass The PlayStation branding is important because only that version will work with the native remote play app on the Play store
@Downhuman74
@Downhuman74 8 дней назад
@@ShawnRaz87 Correct. I was trying to draw attention to the fact that he kind of ignored Game Pass and GeForce Now and how this kind of setup is actually a great to access those services.
@Temmie_gaming
@Temmie_gaming 16 дней назад
Back in 2018 or so 14 year old me played Mario kart 64 on my pixel on the plane with my Bluetooth controller and lemme tell you that was freaking amazing
@refluxology4335
@refluxology4335 15 дней назад
jump
@Telerian3
@Telerian3 15 дней назад
I had a folding Moga controller when this stuff was new. Horrible device. They are so much better now. I'd love to use my joycons on my fold 2
@lbnFadl
@lbnFadl 15 дней назад
???? ​@@refluxology4335
@Niborino9409
@Niborino9409 15 дней назад
How time flies. When I was 14-15 I played Skyrim on a stationary PC. Handheld gaming only existed on handheld consoles like the Nintendo DS Lite 😅 Born in '94.
@shadow_uwu8103
@shadow_uwu8103 15 дней назад
​@@Niborino9409the fact that nowadays Skyrim can be played through an Android phone is so wild.
@jamesramos5442
@jamesramos5442 15 дней назад
Other pluses of the Backbone is that the triggers are analog, the and you can plug a usb-c cable into the passthrough port and connect the other end into any device and it will work as a wired controller. So if you travel with other, larger devices, you can still use the same controller.
@roflBeck
@roflBeck 12 дней назад
I have that controller, didn't know that about it. Interesting.
@Hightierian
@Hightierian 15 дней назад
here a solution. Remember those sliding phones? like the sony erikson. Could we go back to that. Phones are powerful enough they just need physical buttons built in.
@bigpboy1012
@bigpboy1012 15 дней назад
There was a company that released a Joy-Con grip that can also hold a phone in landscape mode. It was designed for the Nintendo Switch Online app, which only began to support landscape mode within the last year.
@victorlowe
@victorlowe 13 дней назад
Razer finally learned that offset controls are more comfortable than vertical joycon layout
@Se7en2107
@Se7en2107 15 дней назад
Bob really channeling his dad with that ad read
@RenardoRiley
@RenardoRiley 5 дней назад
Sony fixed that problem years ago with the Experia play
@Bluegen78
@Bluegen78 9 часов назад
Still got one at home, with custom rom and a bigger battery with modified back. Yes, batteries used to be easily removable even in weird phone form factors xD
@dmr9457
@dmr9457 15 дней назад
love the dsi background music at the start 😩🤌✨
@Kbyte27
@Kbyte27 10 дней назад
I use a clip or bracket that attaches my XBOX controller with my phone. Works really well, especially after pairing it with Mantis Gamepad Pro to map my controller input with touch controls.
@icestar65
@icestar65 15 дней назад
We need a modern Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. A major manufacturer building a slick powerful device with built in controller would be perfect.
@robotninja530
@robotninja530 15 дней назад
You gotta try this on a folding phone. The inner screen has a 5:4 aspect and makes retro games look great. You can also play in split screen and have a video or guide open while playing. Been doing this for years on my galaxy fold 3, and am surprised i haven't seen anybody mention it.
@wikwayer
@wikwayer 13 дней назад
This thing cost the same price as the new nothing phone 🥶
@extenos
@extenos 15 дней назад
perfect timing, i was looking at controllers for my s24 ultra and by some coincidence you posted this video today.
@crazystupidgamer
@crazystupidgamer 9 часов назад
Buy a gameser g8. I've been in love with it for a while now. It's amazing.
@TheDiscardedFoot
@TheDiscardedFoot 13 дней назад
just came from the external progression video. Excited to see more solutions in the future.
@shyguytwopoint0
@shyguytwopoint0 15 дней назад
I use the backbone for my Sunshine server on my PC and at 10 MB the connection is super solid. Playing Wind Waker HD on my phone with barely any noticable latency, I forget I'm even streaming it. Childhood dream-level shit. Even on a mobile connection if you're ok with a bit of crust, but on a 720p phone screen you're not missing much. Cloud gaming from your own PC is wayyyyy better than a major provider imo
@patcormick
@patcormick 15 дней назад
the bottom slide controller is hilarious - taking us back to the sidekick days lol
@majestyzx9081
@majestyzx9081 15 дней назад
I understand why it's required, but it kind of sucks having to remove and reinsert your phone from its case every time you use one of these devices.
@elirantuil5003
@elirantuil5003 15 дней назад
You don't. My g8 works with a case on my android phone and if your phone case is thicker you can remove a part that's just there for gripping the phone (which you don't need because the case is grippy) and it works with a case. Kishy is just a terrible value device compared to both gamesir g8 and gamesir x2s and literally no one should buy it.
@theDitchdigger456
@theDitchdigger456 15 дней назад
unless you're using one of those massive waterproof cases. you don't.
@crossmr
@crossmr 15 дней назад
I have a galaxy S22 ultra that I use with a mocute 60 and never take the case of when using it.
@roflBeck
@roflBeck 12 дней назад
Just don't get a case, problem solved lol.
@elirantuil5003
@elirantuil5003 12 дней назад
@roflBeck and never drop your phone or have infinite money. Easy
@nbaclips4040
@nbaclips4040 15 дней назад
These are the reasons I like my backbone with a 15 pro: 1. Build quality issues with portable emulators (had an rg35xx and rp3+ become unusable). 2. Convenient to play games on my phone and then add a controller if I need (playing phoenix wright with touch controls then a controller for hades). 3. Light, going on a euro trip soon and a backbone controller is much lighter then a bigger emulator. 4. While I don’t use it often, having remote play for ps5 and steam is great. 5. In the future we’ll hopefully see GameCube, ps2 and more ports to ios.
@Ironically-Sarcastic
@Ironically-Sarcastic 15 дней назад
GameCube and PS2 emulators won't be coming to the app store unfortunately, because they depend on dynamic recompilation to get any reasonable speed. The app store guidelines still specifically state that dynamic recompilation is against their terms, and that's mostly because it allows for viruses and malicious software to slip through their detection. If they allowed it, app developers could inject code that breaks all of Apple's other rules after the app had already been approved and downloaded onto people's phones.
@DubsBrown
@DubsBrown 15 дней назад
I just hate the backbone app
@JJKSauce
@JJKSauce 14 дней назад
@@DubsBrownWhy so?
@DubsBrown
@DubsBrown 13 дней назад
@@JJKSauce it tries to get you to sign in every time you connect the controller. I got so annoyed I uninstalled the app but if you press the backbone button accidentally it tries to get you to reinstall.
@FerinaAryele
@FerinaAryele 15 дней назад
I wish someone would make an actual controller phone case, just a case that you put around your phone and then you could just slide it out and have a controller and then slide it back in when your done. That simple. Imo bluetooth sucks I'd rather it be plugged into the USB C already and then the case have a port for USB c if you needed to charge it. I understand that might get quite bulky but personally that's what I want. I've tried using a Bluetooth Controller but there's just way too much lag it's like 1 second lag between clicks and it's awful. I wanted a Razor Kishi V1 but when I ordered it they gave me a V2 and I didn't like having to take my phone case completely off the V2 to use it so I returned it and never did manage to get a V1. I heard on V1 there was a rubber peice you could remove to use it without taking off your case and I liked how it folded up into a combat form because I found a case online for it to put it in for travelling. Edit: I kinda posted this before finishing the video and you did show one similiar to what I said lol
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
Not only that, but now you need different cases for different phones and that's a whole other issue
@FerinaAryele
@FerinaAryele 15 дней назад
@@Fernando-ek8jp true every phones different that would be a huge pain...
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
@@FerinaAryele The m-con (look it up, it's a guy on RU-vid making his own prototype) seems to have a neat idea though: a magsafe compatible one. Not all phones have magsafe since it's an apple thing, but a lot of cases have magsafe compatible magnets. It's Bluetooth right now though, but at least in my experience those have worked fine for me.
@FerinaAryele
@FerinaAryele 15 дней назад
@@Fernando-ek8jp that looks great but I use android now I'm done with apple devices
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 15 дней назад
@@FerinaAryele well, but the only "apple" thing is the magsafe, not the interface. It's just a normal xinput controller. Again, there are android phones and cases that have a compatible magnet array, so those could work. I have a pixel phone, went on Amazon to look, I can get a case with magsafe compatible magnets for $20
@Ad-im1ne
@Ad-im1ne 15 дней назад
2:13 *casually shows off butterfly*
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 15 дней назад
Controller on phones are pointless when 99% of developers refuses to add controller support. Around year 2010 there were a lot of games with controller support, and it went downhill after that.
@lucasLSD
@lucasLSD 14 дней назад
Hell to this day Genshin does not support controllers on android, only on iOS, it's as if someone is paying them to not do it.
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 14 дней назад
@@lucasLSD I think i know why. Apple Arcade requires controller support. Android TV don't require it, but all games on Android TV supports controller. The only ones who ever pushed controller support on Android were Ouya and MOGA. Both companies have been gone for many years. They are probably the reasons why there were so many games with controller support around 2010.
@Friskybusiness1
@Friskybusiness1 14 дней назад
bro an ipad mini with some of the good apple arcade games, some really good n64 and gba games and some good app store games would probably be so sick with a kishi.
@FieryFiendJazz
@FieryFiendJazz 15 дней назад
I wish i knew how to modify 3D print files, I've been wanting to do something like the vertical joycon grip you did for my android phone for ages
@kalvin.
@kalvin. 15 дней назад
I think there’s actually a lot of promise in this market, it’s just still so new and expensive relative to what you get. If you’re spending $800-1000+ on a powerful phone with a nice screen, and mobile gaming has got a lot of attention and development, it only makes sense to utilize it! With that said, $150 is too much for the compromises you mentioned. It still needs the one thing 99% of phones don’t have which is active cooling. Accessories exist for that purpose, but it’s still a nascent category and has its compromises, chief among which for me is that you can’t use your own case to fit the controller. To justify the hassle and bulk of carrying it around, it needs to be compatible with phones that have a normal size range of cases, provide active cooling, and at an affordable or sensible price.
@linkssz1699
@linkssz1699 15 дней назад
Check out the gamesir X4, it's a split controller and it should leave enough room for a cooling fan.
@Mister_Phafanapolis
@Mister_Phafanapolis 15 дней назад
I think if you're getting into peripherals with active cooling or proprietary cases with heat pipes, etc. then you're trying too hard. IMO an Android handheld gaming device like a Retroid Pocket or Ayn Odin would be a better choice for most people because it's a dedicated device built with cooling in mind, has built in controls/grips, it separates the functions of gaming/phone stuff, and generally looks cleaner, more cohesive, wholistic in design than a phone + series of peripherals.
@linkssz1699
@linkssz1699 15 дней назад
@@Mister_Phafanapolis there are gaming phones like redmagic with active cooling and it's own game launcher, to me the retroid is a waste of money when my phone can do what that can plus more.
@lucasLSD
@lucasLSD 14 дней назад
It's not new at all, I bought an ipega controller in 2017, it's just that phone devs do not give a shit to add controller support, you will literally only use them with emulators, when I would also want to use it on Honkai Impact or something.
@DigitalMoonlight
@DigitalMoonlight 7 дней назад
The market is well over 10 years old, chief issues have been software support (Android updates especially frequently break old software and hardware compatibility) and the fact that gaming drains your battery very quickly.
@jamilpointer1354
@jamilpointer1354 15 дней назад
Loved the video. One thing I want to note though is, I swapped out the Kishi v2 that came with the Razer Edge and having been using this one instead. Its a beautiful combo. As for my iPhone, I'm using the new Scuf Nomad for that one. As a father of two small kids, I'm loving both setups right now.
@loldude118
@loldude118 15 дней назад
Try out the GameSir G8 Galileo, it's like this controller but better
@himeeho
@himeeho 15 дней назад
YES! Bob, you NEED to check out some GameSir products!
@MikeyRussell
@MikeyRussell 12 дней назад
I’ve had the Kishi Ultra for a few days and paired it with my Lenovo Y700 2024 (import). It’s been an absolute monster - it basically becomes what you dreamed the PlayStation Portal would be
@RGamer2009
@RGamer2009 15 дней назад
You didn't mention the PlayStation Phone, the Xperia Play that released way back in 2011. It had a slide out Gamepad built into the phone, and I have waited SO LONG for companies to attempt this again. Alas, none have bothered. It would be my ideal phone, and with modern streaming apps and good emulation, now would be the perfect time to release one. The slideout gamepad case has much potential and I can't wait to see where that goes from here.
@The_osric
@The_osric 12 дней назад
Hey just wanted to say I have loved the vids for a few years now, and plan to stick with you. Thanks for the content and keep it up.
@user-cr1vd8ig8r
@user-cr1vd8ig8r 11 дней назад
Thanks for being there
@felixelton
@felixelton 15 дней назад
I've been playing a lot more on my phone after I bought a Gamesir X2S. This combined with my Android phone was a budget solution to play emulation, some indie ports and remote play.
@glasssawsslipperstraws7410
@glasssawsslipperstraws7410 15 дней назад
I think another point towards dedicated handhelds are that phone storage is just very precious. A ton of phones don't have expandable storage (i think this is abhorrent but that's another conversation) so if you download apps and games you're taking tons of space. My little RP4 pro is nice cuz I'm not wasting my phone's battery and it has its own storage so i can put all my games there. I like phone controllers but i would rather have my phone for phone stuff and my gaming handheld for gaming stuff.
@joshd108
@joshd108 3 дня назад
Was thinking of an iPad mini since it has pencil support to finally retire my old pro and gen 1 pencil. The fact that this controller can work with it might convince me to pull the trigger. When traveling a kishi v2 and my 15 pro max is pretty awesome
@pinnkfrost
@pinnkfrost 15 дней назад
Me. I specifically want to buy this as a gaming handheld for the iPad mini. I’ve been using a joycon adapter for it for years. Moonlight on the iPad mini is an incredible gaming experience and I recommend anyone give it a go. Definitely going to pick this up.
@xmattar
@xmattar 15 дней назад
Creeping up on 1 mil man Can't wait
@SpookySkeletonGang
@SpookySkeletonGang 15 дней назад
I'm using the gamesir g8 lately, it's honestly really good. I don't need to remove my case on my pixel 6, game streaming performance from my PC is fantastic with moonlight and sunshine (I played through a lot of elden ring on it), and it's cheaper than most options while being very comfortable.
@erickmoy
@erickmoy 2 дня назад
The controller that eternal progression is making is really convenient. It's pocket-able and Magsafe compatible, it means, you don't have to remove your case. Just attach or detach on-the-go.
@Audibleknight
@Audibleknight 15 дней назад
I ended up settling on playing games on my phone using an 8bitdo SN30 Pro while traveling. Small enough to toss in a carry on bag and not taking up a lot of space while also being a good controller input for games like Genshin etc when I'm away from my PC.
@DigitalMoonlight
@DigitalMoonlight 7 дней назад
The biggest barrier to mobile gaming has been software support, software support breaks frequently, especially on Android and it's difficult or impossible for older mobile games to run on modern OSes. This doesn't even get into other massive issues like the app stores, though that would be solvable on Android with a third party app store. The hardware has been here for a long time, we just need the software to settle.
@Crowfist
@Crowfist 15 дней назад
I bought a 50$ phone with a snapdragon 845 and use it as a dedicated gaming device. phones are so plentiful and cheap im glad there are controllers for everything from heavy gaming ergonomics to pocketable phone controllers.
@Sadtiric
@Sadtiric 15 дней назад
Oh, I've been curious about this one. I've owned a few Moga controllers and grips, some various controller adapters, and recently a Backbone or two! 💚
@jesusmetal92107
@jesusmetal92107 15 дней назад
I want my communication device to be separate from gaming device. When I have the few moments during the week to myself to play games, I want to make them dedicated to gaming and unplugged from the rest of the world.
@AndreasKingMedia
@AndreasKingMedia 15 дней назад
I feel like the reason you don't understand the market for that controller is because you HAVE all those other handhelds. Plenty of people have expensive and powerful phones because of carrier subsidies, but no gaming handhelds at all. In that case, it seems pretty easy to justify spending under $200 on an attachment for your phone instead of spending even more money on a handheld that will STILL be substantially less powerful than a modern top of the line smartphone. On top of that, if you're the kind of person who upgrades your phone every few years, you get to bring your controller along with you even more powerful device.
@Eskoxo
@Eskoxo 15 дней назад
if you can justify $200 for attachment at that point justify $300 and get a lcd steam deck.
@AndreasKingMedia
@AndreasKingMedia 15 дней назад
@@Eskoxo I mean the jump from $150 and $300 is 2x that's not insubstantial
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles 15 дней назад
Interesting, the first half of those arguments are reasons I've seen for dedicated handhelds. Many people have cheap phones, especially younger people or they don't like smart phones or want to game without the phone temptation/interruption, and given solid emulation devices that do more than any phone under $500 are like, $150-200 let alone the more expensive ones, if you don't have a high end phone plan situation or sometimes even if you do, a cheaper android handheld makes more sense for many, or a mid range one even.
@AndreasKingMedia
@AndreasKingMedia 15 дней назад
@@hi_tech_reptiles from my experience most young people have reasonably modern iPhones, or Samsung galaxies. They definitely sell huge volumes of them every year. Carrier plans make it pretty attractive for people, even if they really don't need the performance. For sure if you don't have a powerful phone and you don't feel that you want one then a dedicated handheld makes sense.
@tirogaiden
@tirogaiden 15 дней назад
Now with hall effect sticks its even better because It Just last longer than a Common gamepad
@yochrisnelson
@yochrisnelson 15 дней назад
You remain the undefeated champion of ad reads 👑
@labman472011
@labman472011 16 дней назад
A monday video? Nice
@vhalrougelarfouxe
@vhalrougelarfouxe 14 дней назад
As someone who owns an ROG phone 5, I actually worked some bits of my DOBE controller to align with the 2nd usb c port. now I just slide my phone in and out like a switch, and its freaking amazing.
@peterkane9264
@peterkane9264 14 дней назад
I rock the gamesir x2 because it connects via bluetooth and has a ridged back so my phone feels supported. Being able to use it as a controller for my PC when I was in the hospital was brilliant, and tossing it in my bag takes up less space than my Switch Lite
@NoobMaster-fw4hg
@NoobMaster-fw4hg 10 дней назад
My very first smartphone was the Sony Xperia Play that had a slide out controller built-in. Roms were fun to play. It also had crash bandit pre installed. It was awesome!
@iseptimus
@iseptimus 13 дней назад
A caser that works with all the controllers is the Pitaka Aramid. Expensive, but worth it.
@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
@AlejandroCaicedoPUJ 15 дней назад
Maybe if you tried the bsp d8 or d10 you would change your mind since they are very cheap and have pretty much every feature you could ask for
@crimsoncraftycat4044
@crimsoncraftycat4044 14 дней назад
The 2nd edition Backbone for my iPhone 15 makes sense to me because I want to give mobile gaming a shot WITH a better experience for my hands. I played with the idea of a controller attachment because I have controllers laying around but having a dedicated phone controller - that also works on my PC (When you tried to connect the kishi, backbone has native support using the usb-c port at the bottom of the right side of the controller) is a more viable portable solution for travel that works better than bringing a separate controller with me. Perfect for a long trip and I have my laptop or my tablet - I can use it like any other controller and works.
@jleza
@jleza 6 дней назад
Honestly i kinda found a niche with this controllers. I need a secondary controller when my friends are in my house, or i want to play with my brother or family. But I also want to play games with my Moto G200 when I just do not want to go to the pc. I bought 2 BSP-D3 that works with Bluetooth and USB-C and they are nice. Now I bought a G8 Gallileo, which doesn't have a easy way to connet to pc (is funny how the 8$ bsp-d3 has usbc for data and the 55$ not), but it sort of can via a usb female to female, then usbc to usbc. So, I think for a secondary controller that you can use in everything they are actually really nice.
@TheMegaJFrog
@TheMegaJFrog 8 дней назад
wow this is amazing information to hear
@xbadjokerx
@xbadjokerx 15 дней назад
Since I still use a Huawei P30 Pro as my main phone for 5 years now, the Razer Junglecats are the way to go. Not great for ergonomic, but super portable. And with the special 3D printed carrying middle piece I designed, it's easy and safe to just pop them on a small bag like a fanny bag or even a large pocket, since the 3d printed middle piece provides protection for the sticks, something the original middle piece doesn't.
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms 15 дней назад
07:59 Where's Sony with the Xperia Play 2 when you need them?
@c0wg0d
@c0wg0d 5 дней назад
Still rocking my Anbernic RG351P. It does everything I need for mobile gaming.
@persechini
@persechini 15 дней назад
I missed a side-to-side comparison with the gamesir G8, witch is the more similar in form factor I've enjoyed a time with the RP3+, the first gen kishi, and a generic bt telescopic controller that got some recommendations a few years back, but the gamesir G8 was the first one that got me really going for it and enjoying steamlink more in addition to emulators. It's a bit bulkier than the RP3+ and other controllers (just like the kishi ultra), but there is plenty space in my backpack and my phone is a more capable device anyway. Plus, I enjoy the xbox-like shape, even for retro gaming, the lower dpad is no issue to me
@yicklemypickle8716
@yicklemypickle8716 15 дней назад
Remember to keep the guy behind the M-Con on your radar, dude’s got a crazy good concept for a mobile controller that attaches to the back thru MagSafe and I think it’s gonna blow anything else outta the water!
@X862go
@X862go 9 дней назад
Thanks Bob 👐
@jimbobcheezeburger2020
@jimbobcheezeburger2020 15 дней назад
AyaNeo Pocket S was so close to being the best option as a phone
@nbaclips4040
@nbaclips4040 15 дней назад
This is a wulffden dad impression for an ad
@ratykat
@ratykat 14 дней назад
For phone controllers, the Nacon Mg-x Pro (the xbox one) is so good. Genuinely console feeling buttons and sticks, holds my Fold 5 perfectly
@rubin_sandwich12
@rubin_sandwich12 15 дней назад
Galileo G8 with the Galaxy Fold 4 has been pretty stellar. Fold direction is more palatable with the larger controller, and i already don't use a case with it usually. Plus it has a PS mode as a quick swap feature so its compatibility is hard to beat.
@Gerflap
@Gerflap 13 дней назад
Cell phone and the 8BitDo SNES with thumb stick controller is my go to for mobile games when I’m not on my Steam Deck
@adamscantos3956
@adamscantos3956 10 дней назад
As someone who previously said that "instead of buying retro handheld systems, just buy a controller for your phone because it is much more capable of emulating retro games, even ps2 levels", having bought an OG35XX changed my perspective. Having a dedicated retro handheld system is really convenient in a way that it is pocketable and can be fired up and play anytime anywhere. As an added bonus, no distractions from notifications if using phone.
@just6979
@just6979 13 дней назад
Gyro aiming is so clutch. Best part of my Breath of the Wild playthrough was standing in the kitchen playing in handheld mode, feeding my 1 year old in between sections of fighting Vah Ruda, and twirling around to shoot cryonis at the ice blocks coming from all angles. Ever since, if a game doesn't support gyro natively (and I hate when PS ports don't!) I always try to finagle some gyro aiming with the Steam Deck or DualSense through Steam Input. Even if it's not full spinning around like BotW and TotK (some of the best gyro aiming out there), making little tweaks for headshots or such is so easy with gyro compared to trying to make tiny moves on a thumbstick. Gyro 4 eva!
@majajatasi
@majajatasi День назад
Hall Effect is not a buzzword like Ai it means that it will not drift some people are upset with the fact that normal controllers will eventually drift especially if you spend +100$ on a pro / ultra whatever controller ( i had a ps5 controller that started drifting immediately after the return window closed and that did upset me a lot ) and Hall Effect controllers do solve this problem and personally i will never buy a controller that doesnt have Hall Effect Analogs and Hall Effect Triggers no more headaches for me
@NiteSheyde
@NiteSheyde 15 дней назад
Come for the ad reads, stay for the video
@dabom88
@dabom88 15 дней назад
Use case: I have emulators set up on my phone and computer. I use Syncthing to sync the save files. Real hardware, I'd have to spend time dumping the save files if I wanted them to sync. Playing through Pokémon 3DS games right now, and once you reach 3DS tier, it seems more economical to just use a good, strong, longer phone than a handheld that you have to switch views or settle for small dual screens.
@winkblink8636
@winkblink8636 14 дней назад
I used the original Razor Kishi with my Galaxy S20 for emulation after college and while I was in grad school since my gaming laptop died as soon as I finished undergrad. It was a good way to save money while in grad school, the OG Kishi being more convenient for putting in my school bag, ready for a quick break during long days of writing and research. Since then, I upgraded to a Steam Deck OLED. I'm not quite living out of a suitcase anymore but the Deck has made gaming more convenient and the screen is amazing. I'm finally able to go through my Steam backlog of over a decade (lots of sales), and do some emulation all in one beautiful device. I only see myself going back to my phone for emulation when I upgrade next year to the Galaxy S25 Ultra, specifically for certain DS and 3DS games where touch is essential. I will use the included phone stylus or perhaps I will buy a used 3DS to play DS and 3DS roms.
@MrKyGuy
@MrKyGuy 15 дней назад
The Scuff Nomad seems sweet.
@Derelict1
@Derelict1 15 дней назад
It is absolutely convenient to have a mobile phone and a handheld console with you! Who tf wants their gaming interrupted by a text or a phone call? Nobody.
@DannerBanks
@DannerBanks 15 дней назад
I predominantly bought the Galileo G8 for two reasons: 1. Remote play for Steam and Gamepass. 2. Wasn't willing to spend more than $100 on a dedicated handheld, and below that amount, it is somewhat challenging to get Gamecube and above running. I already have a flagship phone so why not leverage it to the hilt?
@talonpolad9953
@talonpolad9953 14 дней назад
dope vid
@somecallmesean_
@somecallmesean_ 15 дней назад
i mainly turned my phone into something that does handheld games up to psp and consoles up to the n64 (minus those n64 decomps) my steam deck is mostly for pc games and gamecube and up and 3ds for ds and 3ds (i can’t stand using a single screen device for dual screen games)
@rev0lu7ion
@rev0lu7ion 13 дней назад
i wouldn't suggest phone mounts because it's bluetooth instead of wired and the phone is much heavier than the controller making it uncomfortable
@dooffff
@dooffff 15 дней назад
Canola oil was originally used for machine lubricant
@jamesburke2759
@jamesburke2759 15 дней назад
The backbone is great. its super comfortable and works well with RetroArch. Shame about the clicky buttons though. im a huge fan of soft touch DS Lite Style.
@Danikeib
@Danikeib 15 дней назад
You should look into the mcon controller. It looks like an promising project. I really like the format
4 дня назад
One scenario I see myself using my phone with a controller like the Backbone One instead of a portable emulation machine like a Steam Deck or a PlayStation Vita is RetroAchievements, specifically while on the go. Those require you to be connected to the internet, and then running the game on the phone and strapping the controller - even if you need to remove the case, which is the case of the Backbone One, at least the old generation I have here - is more convenient then getting your phone, setting up a mobile hotspot, getting your other emulation device and connecting to it.
@josefuentes1008
@josefuentes1008 9 дней назад
Great video! For me I use my razer kishi v2 for streaming my pc with moonlight. It's great to be able to play jrpg's when out and about or when I'm at home and just want to play on the couch instead of my pc desk. Sure I can use my Steam Deck for that but sometimes I just want a smol device.
@xtrabit05
@xtrabit05 14 дней назад
I really like that slide control it reminds me of phones with the sliding keyboard and to make those better they could use c pads that the 3ds used instead of buttons
@candacea749
@candacea749 15 дней назад
Hey Wulf, great video! Question.. do you have a list of all the stuff on your desk? I'm curious what Keyboard you have, looking to upgrade. TIA.
@NISHIAKI
@NISHIAKI 15 дней назад
I was just looking into finally getting a mini emulator device when I saw someone post their funky phone solution: an 8bitdo micro with a suction cup patch on the back, stuck onto their phone screen (for portrait mode emulation). So I ordered the controller and an adhesive suction cup patch to do the same for myself haha. Fingers crossed it'll suit my needs.
@theBlueFox2
@theBlueFox2 15 дней назад
I have a Bluetooth snes style controller that identifies as a switch pro controller. Slim and fits in my pocket. Got it on AliExpress for $15 and it's never given me any issues.
@rik666
@rik666 15 дней назад
I have a backbone and a GameSir G8. Both really great for different use cases.
@goldenplayer4966
@goldenplayer4966 3 дня назад
All a controller needs is 2 analogs and 4 shoulder buttons, but the analogs under the phone and the triggers over it, the rest of the buttons can be mapped into the screen, for the "feeling" you can have a screen protector with some groover where the buttons would be, using gyroscope is a must, you get the camera very sensible and to have a better aim set up the gyroscope to give that last adjust before a headshot.
@DeadEyeJ
@DeadEyeJ 15 дней назад
BSP D8 controller with my Samsung Galaxy Fold5 makes it an awesome portable retro gaming handheld. 4:3 games looks amazing on it, and it's now the only system where I play arcade shmups, because the taller aspect ratio makes it perfect for those games.
@nhand42
@nhand42 15 дней назад
After getting a steamdeck I haven't used any of my handhelds or mobile controllers. The steamdeck is just too perfect.
@rustkitty
@rustkitty 11 дней назад
I haven't considered a magsafe controller grip but that makes the most sense to me. Then the selling point is the home console level ergonomics which beats both touch controls and most dedicated handhelds. btw this may sound obvious if you already know, but it needs to be said: there are magsafe cases for Android phones too, it's not iPhones exclusive tech.
@talhatariq653
@talhatariq653 14 дней назад
I loved the nintendo ds music in the intro
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