‪@Tarzaned‬ 

😂 i like it

Discovered Asmongold glitch

we need tarzaned reaction to the reaction

I would love to see Dantes thoughts on what Agurin thinks of what Tarzaned thinks of that game of Agurin and Dantes

I watched this games vod 4 times each from a different video

He admits,but he still argues and telling that he did things bcs this was dantes and not random guy

​@@user-ry2kh2ul3xexplaining mindset I think is reasonable. Denying it all together is annoying

​@@user-ry2kh2ul3xI mean you also play different when you are smurfing 2 elos below your own. He's rank one playing against someone in cookielol low who can only winstreak to chall when his otp has 55% wr

@@allat0nce that's kinda rude about dantes,he's a good boy

as i like Dantes its pretty much true@@user-ry2kh2ul3x

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Tarzaned didn't mention it because he said Dantes wasn't supposed to be using phase rush in the first place he said he should have gone conqueror

@@jmb47kkamikaze80 Which has nothing do do with anything though

@@jmb47kkamikaze80 He just didnt see it, not that deep

@@jmb47kkamikaze80 That makes no sense, he might have said that Dantes SHOULD have gone Conqueror but that doesn't change the fact that he does indeed have Phase Rush

I agree. Personally I hate reaction, however, this was actually insightful and interesting

Its Tarzaned, Tarzan is a Korean pro player

tarzaned not tarzan

@@nonecker7479it is not reaction to analyze a replay.

Would be a waste of time. Agurin Smurfs in Tarzaneds peak. Pretty mich every single European challenger jungler Smurf's in Tarzaneds peak.

completely*

​@@edikje5505Komplett*

It was a legendary battles between eternal rivals after all. One might even say they are like the Yin and the Yang.

but not the one were Dantes destroyed Aguri and absolutely bullied him out of the game, going like 20 kills I think it was.

@@claudeheinrich3613 lmao. I know nothing i will say will reach your miniscule brain but I will speak the truth nonetheless: Dante's playstyle is gambling, Agurins playstyle is investing. Dantes is loosing the climb but won game, why? Because he just perma coinflips. He won the coinflip once cuz he had the better laners. Dantes cant climb, similarly how a gambler cant stay rich. Dantes gambles his elo away. Similar to what happened in EuW. He reached chal and insta demoted

@@superfranky8054 he made his lanes win, he permanently ganked, invaded etc. Aguri was just fullclearing the entire game lol.

@@claudeheinrich3613and he is Rank 1 lol

fuck yes i love how the new content works in this age just to genrate more views

😂😂

@@asdsdaadsdadasdasd2473 Unlimited views glitch

Yes, agurin hitting rank 1 1980lp on euw every season and rank 1 korea while tarz hits master 50% wr korea and not even rank 1 NA anymore. One player being better doesnt mean they have different playstyles. I mean did you even watch the video, tarz says agurin coukd gank poppy early but agurin explains why its a very bad move even if he gets the kill.

@@richardsalzmann7946 tarz did hit chall in korea though?

⁠​⁠​⁠@@richardsalzmann7946 what? tarzaned got challenger korea just this year and he’s been rank 1 na multiple seasons, agurin and him are definitely comparable lol

@@richardsalzmann7946 yeah cause 81% in master kr = 50% lmao. he hit master with 81% shitting on gms. its just that his mental is awful

Tarzaned feels autistic and I don't mean it as an offense

@@jellyfish641 I’m very certain a lot of high elo players have autism.

@@jellyfish641 LMFAO

@@jellyfish641 As a tarzaned meat rider i must say that i agree with you tho

@@kodenameaurasphere3104 💀

I'm personally more of proactive content fan

For the 11m play he already said it will work, it's just pointless. You gain a 200gold swing which is actually less as you are being inefficient, less so by taking krugs. It also means you're trading the chance to take drake on a great timing for a camp

U can't start krugs they haven't spawned yet. If you mean raptors which spawn at 1:30 it's just better in nearly all cases, getting red later and keeping that buff for later is better when leashless.

The game's completely over by that point, he just tilt ran into river to fuck around because he knows its doomed

Sylas already used his galio ult

@@froozen1177no he didn’t, sylas trolled for some reason but that was after agurin went mid.

Yeah going mid to help sylas was pointless zaned is right

@@froozen1177 Because Agurin was mid. If Agurin is mid then Sylas cannot R him randomly.

Level one galio ult can't actually reach directly from mid lane to that bot fight, in order to be in range of tri you need to be slightly past the raptor camp. So by making sure sylas can move he ensures that galio will be at least 3-4 seconds behind. If sylas doesn't randomly waste ult then he guarantees that they will have 4 people bot while the enemy has 3. That said, I'm not sure how big of an impact galio arriving before sylas would make given the already massive item gap,Aagurin's team could probably win 3v4 thanks to gore + galeforce vs longsword + shiv. It seems like he could've just pathed directly bot since that is the only place for Dantes to really make a play. On top of that if sylas and galio both rotated at the same time then the mid wave would most likely slowpush towards sylas so galio would lose much more from rotating.

Yeah they're playing chess in the special olympics. Jungler = failed laner

was thinking same. but i dont know man.

yes he would but of course he's too arogant to admit that he could of gotten free krugs from dantes and just go red into full clear bot skipping he's own krugs

​@@NNSenpaican someone say him how bullshit it is for a Dantes fanboy to call someone arrogant ?

@@NNSenpaihe explains it 11:00-12:00 why it is not worth to go for it , because u lose tempo which can be converted into objectives that are more worth like drake

He could, but it would be worse in a longrun. Why ? First of all - time - , as Agurin said he was about 20s ahead of Dantes, because he did another clear with items. Doing higher lvl camps without items on jarvan would be a waste of time and he had just perfect window to recall. Second is -clear pathing- why would you lvl up(clear) enemy camp, when you can reset your own. If he would skip his krugs they will still be the same lvl and dantes krugs will be lvl higher and because invading is not always possible and he's clearing top to bot It's better to do your own krugs. He could do dantes krugs and his krugs but then he would be a little bit late for drake that is worth a lot of gold and even those 5 secunds can make a huge diff. It's all about being as efficient as possible. It's the way I see It at least, but I'm not a challenger jungler.

what? no

He doesn't tho right? I would believe that until he gets at least 1000LP Chall

that was before agurin hit rank one, he was still climbing

its early season ladder. this means jackshit. drututt explained this the best.

@@dpad_ indeed

​@@dpad_source? i'm courious

First 4 hours of his stream he does entirely in english i think.

You clearly don't understand Tarzaneds point here. What he's saying is that if J4 is healthier, he can skip blue altogether to go top and kill Poppy. Catch-up xp is huge in league so losing out of the camp early doesn't really impact you as much as getting Rumble turbo ahead. I personally think I'd always rather do blue -> crab, as I think the top gank is a bit flippy at that point (Poppy W and still has flash makes it awkward), but I can see an argument for it.

@@Rommel12 U dont understand that its a way worse play then getting hecas blue and scuttle.

@@Rommel12 agurin tries to play for high percantage plays. this is why he prefers to farm over kills. dont forget farm gives you less bounty than kills. agurin hit rank 1 in korea and multiply times rank 1 in euw. so his playstyle works. tarzaned never hit rank 1 in korea nor euw. (he tried).

@@Jenodo agurin is great jungler, but u cant say he is rank 1 kr because its too early in the season. I believe he can hit it, but don't claim early season rank 1

Because they're Father and Son

yeah he is overdoing it. Tarzaned does it in a more calculated way, but it's still coinflip because no comms in solo queue. But I feel like playing overaggro is good for dantes because he was just playing full clear after full clear before and he learns more this way even tho it's not the most effective. he is definitely getting better at jungle, i just wish he learned more champs

10:30 sagt der aal man soll raptors or kruggs machen. Hat Agurin sich nicht ausgedacht.

Well said. On your point of underlying hostility, I don't think Tarzaned has any real hostility towards Agurin (unless we think he's trying to stand up for his boy Dantes, which I think is a bit of a stretch) and I didn't get that sense with his review either, to me its just Tarzaned's usual approach of "lets see if this guy is really as good as everyone says, how many mistakes does he actually make". I do also think Agurin is being a bit defensive towards Tarzaned's criticisms and understandably so when someone is dissecting your game looking for mistakes, and I think overall he did a decent job acknowledging the mistakes Tarzaned pointed out. Definitely would love to see the two of them get in a call or something and have a direct discussion.

Tarzaned is just wrong; enemy bot lane is too fast out of base and Agurin's plan is better than denying one camp. One camp invades in general are troll.

@@fivefourtwo4498 go into practice tool and see if you can't do the krugs camp with smite up before the enemy bot runs from fountain to krugs. Just wrong my ass lmfao. Agurin's plan to farm his own camps is for sure superior to taking the level 4 krugs away from the Hecarim that has nothing up in his jungle.

Canyon

@@fivefourtwo4498 maybe Canyon is for Pro play..but for SoloQ Tarzaned and Agurin are at the top.

Pro level isn't the same as soloq, pro is a different game. When it comes to jungling in pro the whole game is different it's actually just stupid to compare them. No one lucks out on teammates over multiple seasons, stop being delusional he's just good.

@@ClickHere4Narutowell, there are times when I climb on a server and I was hardstuck d1 but when I created a new acc out of nowhere, I peaked gm in rank playing the same things that I did on my previous accounts. It's a team game so it's hard to say that there's no such thing as luck. Ofc, if you're consistent it's easier to break through the loss streak even with bad teammates, tho the game will be harder, but teammate luck is actually a real thing.

I agree there's a bit of luck in any team game.. But Agurin plays for a bad team most of the time that's why he's so pve heavy.. Very safe, very consistent, making plays only when he HAS to.@@Qopa

thought hes arabian/pakistani or something asianm idk

@@stanimirborov3765 he is turkish who lives in german and streams mainly in german.

You think reviewing a game is drama? He's playing a video game bro wtf are you on about drama lmao

Yeah, he loves to do a drama.

He reacted to about 3 min of the game in his original video, but people repeatedly asked him to review the entire game. Nothing weird about that fam.

yeah the actual review for learning purposes is over very early in this game. There's not much point going in depth on this game because its not realistic that the enemy jungler will just grief hard early.

It definitely is the right play to climb better. Within this one game tho are obviously some options to give you better chances to win, but I totally agree with your thought and it probably happens automatically when playing multiple games in a row

i love how ur arguing with rank 1 ew and kr jg. he said multible times that the 0'risk' plays that generate gold have alwyas been his way to win. he also said he though that dantes was gonna go bot camps so he wanted to clear top to bot ti dive bolane and missmatch jg where dantes cant do anything beacuse of how behind he is

@@tubedude9423 and im saying tarzaned who is also a rank 1 player is right, because the herald is also 0 risk and generates more gold, its the mathematically correct play

didnt tarzaned get chall in KR with a better wr than augurin or something lol

@@Omar-xt2gv Tarzaned is better than Agurin at EVERYTHING and I'm NOT a meatrider !!!!!!!

@@Omar-xt2gv their ranks dont change the fact that its a simple math equation

he criticizes everyone like that, clearing is what he does. He tries to have perfect clears, stop being parasocial and cringe reading to far into it. He has nothing against agurin, he said EU junglers are better than KR.

Buddy got Korea rank 1 multiple times so.....

You mean NA

@@slick_schlick2879 He came into Top 50 once in the year 2019, he never archieved the same once again, 2022 he made it into challenger and got permabanned cause of Scripting allegations so not sure who you talking about but Tarzaned aint it

@@lerab157 funny how a godlike jungler like tarzaned is being dissed by someone who's either a silver jungler or doesn't even play the role , or just a hater.

@@slick_schlick2879 tarzaned never got rank 1 in korea. and tarzaned failed to get rank 1 in euw.

Thats the state of league - sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Its part of the job of being profesional and keeps moving forward.