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@sophiadealencar8721
@sophiadealencar8721 5 месяцев назад
OMG YES, PPL DO HIM SO DIRTY LIKE BRO HE'S ONE OF THE BEST WRITTEN CHARACTERS WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT???
@randominfected1924
@randominfected1924 5 месяцев назад
I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF MORI He manipulates kids and uses them to his advantage Extra edit: People adore BEAST Mori but hate his original. They're literally the same person except BEAST Mori retired from his position as the Mafia Boss, ridiculous
@arch3r_istired
@arch3r_istired 5 месяцев назад
i mean i completely agree but i still just don't like him 😭 i don't even really have a good reason he just annoys me 😭😭
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
I RESPECT YOUR OPINION!!! 🤍
@sophiadealencar8721
@sophiadealencar8721 5 месяцев назад
From: me To: Atsushi Except I have some reasons
@LesbianKimDokja
@LesbianKimDokja 5 месяцев назад
@@sophiadealencar8721what reasons. share why you dont like a complex and well written character who happens to be a realistic representation of a person with ptsd.
@s.aayori
@s.aayori 5 месяцев назад
​@@sophiadealencar8721 So atsushi haters really do exist, I thought people were just joking around.... My man's hated even in his own show, sorry, why would you hate HIM😭😭?? Are there actual reasons???
@Lotus_Rivers
@Lotus_Rivers 5 месяцев назад
I as a person, do not care what people believe in, but if the only way you manage to dumb down the ANTAGONIST of the show as a simpe p3do... you're simply ignoring everything else he has done as the antagonist of the show. and it shows... it shows bad. "Mori is a p3do" Yes, you know whatelse he is, he's also manipulative and cunning. He knows how to get people to do what he wants, he's smart and also very sassy. y'all are not reading between the line and basically use the "Dazai was sa'd by mori" headcannon as an excuse for angst and it shows too.
@randominfected1924
@randominfected1924 5 месяцев назад
Exactly. I love Mori's character sm and idc if people try to shame me for it
@Lotus_Rivers
@Lotus_Rivers 5 месяцев назад
@@randominfected1924 I'm proud to support my Mori lovers here. Love the character not their actionis.
@Myojo584
@Myojo584 5 месяцев назад
I subbed I love Mori the fandom just portrays him badly omd hes actually well written.
@ser3in.-ty4rk
@ser3in.-ty4rk 5 месяцев назад
i mean he may be a pedo but he’s still a very well written character (i love him as a villain sm)
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
True but he isn't a ped0😭🙏
@Vrozmz
@Vrozmz 5 месяцев назад
One of the questions was what’s ur ideal type, Mori said he likes little girls under the age of 12 in guidebook 2, and others such as Oda said a sharp witted woman also in guide book 2, that was in the official bsd guide book for Valentine’s Day it wasn’t a mistranslation . Plus asagri himself is a pedo 💀
@Vrozmz
@Vrozmz 5 месяцев назад
btw, this comment isn’t a hate comment or anything negative, it’s just my opinion why I think Mori is a pedo, and I am not a big fan of him, but if you think that Mori isn’t a pedo and u like him that’s totally up to u and it’s ok! ^^
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
the valentines day thing was made by the bsd FANDOM wiki, NOT by an OFFICIAL source, it collects the guidebook's answer
@atolzu
@atolzu 5 месяцев назад
asagiri isnt a pedo?? 😭
@Vrozmz
@Vrozmz 5 месяцев назад
@@atolzu I HOPE NOT , bc there was typo I meant to say I HEARD that asagiri himself is a pedo bc I saw a tt of someone saying he made a inappropriate manga or smth like that of schoolgirls 😥
@Vrozmz
@Vrozmz 5 месяцев назад
@@YasmineYtPlayzOHH, Ty sm for that I acshually didn’t kno that 😞, this changed my perspective a bit more !! ^^
@rileythesmiliest
@rileythesmiliest 5 месяцев назад
EXACTLYYYY I LOVE HIS CHARACTER ITS SO UNDERRATED
@Aksharas_World
@Aksharas_World 5 месяцев назад
He actually is a pedo😭 but yea i agree with u hes one of my fav charecters and people always come at me for it😭
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
He isn't actually..I'm going to make a video with proof😭🙏
@Fruityexotix
@Fruityexotix 5 месяцев назад
mori isn’t a pedo whatsoever. Reasoning: Mori is actually based on a doctor in the manga Jack Black, Asagiri is a fan of Jack Black, the doctor is an underground one who treats poor patients for low prices or even none at all. But, he charges rich patients a hefty price. The doctor has a child sidekick who is actually a doll with a tumor inside, this child is who Elise is based on. She likes to say she’s the wife of the doctor, though the doctor doesn’t see it that way and thinks of the child as his daughter. Mainly why people think mori is a pedo is because of the line “I like the women in my life to be under the age of twelve” which is a mistranslation and it was meant to mean Mori gets along with children instead of grown women. Mori’s character is way more messed up because of all the mistranslations.
@nanacue
@nanacue 5 месяцев назад
THE KENDRICK LAMAR SOMG IM SHTTUBG MYSELF
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
RARE BSDRU-vid ACTUALLY HAVING A BRAIN?? OMGG AKXNSKDN FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS MORI ISNT A PEHDO
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
I'M JUST KEEPING IT REAL‼️‼️
@Wizp-iii
@Wizp-iii 5 месяцев назад
Hes literally a lolicon istg 😂😂😂😂
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
@@Wizp-iii How is he a lolicon if he isn't attracted to anything or anyone? Elise is his ability, molded into his regrets and needs. Elise is literally Mori himself. And that one time where Elise said "Lolicon pervert" she knows what's going on. She knows the situation. So she decides to joke and join in. Mori saying "WAIT!" is like saying "WAIT I DIDNT MEAN THAT!"
@Wizp-iii
@Wizp-iii 5 месяцев назад
@@YasmineYtPlayz proof 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
@@Wizp-iii also where's YOUR proof that he's a lolicon??
@jiyookim-jung975
@jiyookim-jung975 5 месяцев назад
No actually 😭 I always feel so bad for Mori when I see him being portrayed as a pedophile because I really really do not think that he is. And even if he does turn out to have been portrayed as a pedophile in the anime/manga, 1. I doubt he has made abusive advances, 2. He wasn’t a pedophile in real life
@vlnxd
@vlnxd 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's actually more like Asagiri projecting, but the animanga Mori IS a pedo. And I'm kinda a victim of a lolicon from the internet and I can tell you even if they don't do something physical it's still grooming
@Fruityexotix
@Fruityexotix 5 месяцев назад
@@vlnxd mori isn’t a pedo whatsoever. Reasoning: Mori is actually based on a doctor in the manga Jack Black, Asagiri is a fan of Jack Black, the doctor is an underground one who treats poor patients for low prices or even none at all. But, he charges rich patients a hefty price. The doctor has a child sidekick who is actually a doll with a tumor inside, this child is who Elise is based on. She likes to say she’s the wife of the doctor, though the doctor doesn’t see it that way and thinks of the child as his daughter. Mainly why people think mori is a pedo is because of the line “I like the women in my life to be under the age of twelve” which is a mistranslation and it was meant to mean Mori gets along with children instead of grown women. Mori’s character is way more messed up because of all the mistranslations.
@vlnxd
@vlnxd 5 месяцев назад
@@Fruityexotix I wasn't talking about the irl Mori and I think I said that, if not, it's my mistake. However, while the character in BSD is based on the Black Jack doctor, as far as I know Asagiri did put some creative license on his character, making it implicit (and in non canon explicit) Mori has a like for little girls because it's like a joke, being true but in a comedic way
@MoonLaden
@MoonLaden 5 месяцев назад
@@Fruityexotixhave you seen their lines be frrr
@Fruityexotix
@Fruityexotix 5 месяцев назад
mori isn’t a pedo whatsoever. Reasoning: Mori is actually based on a doctor in the manga Jack Black, Asagiri is a fan of Jack Black, the doctor is an underground one who treats poor patients for low prices or even none at all. But, he charges rich patients a hefty price. The doctor has a child sidekick who is actually a doll with a tumor inside, this child is who Elise is based on. She likes to say she’s the wife of the doctor, though the doctor doesn’t see it that way and thinks of the child as his daughter. Mainly why people think mori is a pedo is because of the line “I like the women in my life to be under the age of twelve” which is a mistranslation and it was meant to mean Mori gets along with children instead of grown women. Mori’s character is way more messed up because of all the mistranslations.
@emmareboot
@emmareboot 5 месяцев назад
hello yes he has specifically said "I prefer the women in my life to be under 12" and it is stated multiple times from others also that he is one!!
@Fruityexotix
@Fruityexotix 5 месяцев назад
@@emmareboot since when? I read the mangas in Japanese, and it didn’t say that so it might also be a mistranslation??
@amia108
@amia108 4 месяца назад
im sorry but I remember in one of the extra bsd manga panels, fukuzawa asked mori if elise is his daughter and mori said she was his wife
@Fruityexotix
@Fruityexotix 4 месяца назад
@@amia108 the term he used was “tsuma” tsuma means wife, but it’s used as a platonic way. It basically means “life long partner” meaning that Elise is someone who will always be by his side.
@popKATx
@popKATx 5 месяцев назад
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT.
@jadedavis2206
@jadedavis2206 5 месяцев назад
Listen, he’s a good villain and antagonist but bro literally said I like my women under 12… like are we not supposed to see him as a p3do?😭😭 (I can admit it is a little overblown)
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
If ur referring to the "I prefer my woman" that's a mistranslation made by the anime. He actually said "I'm touched but the only girls I protect are aged 12 and under I'm afraid." I even have a physical manga and Japanese friends that help translate.
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
Also it's not Asagiris intentions at all. He wanted to make a scary mafia boss character have a soft spot for little girls. (which is not in any way sexual or romantic.) it's the exact situation for Fukuzawa. He's seen as cold and has a dark past but has a soft spot for cats. Why would Asagiri make mori a pehdo as a way to soften a character? Plus irl Mori is a victim, he wouldn't do that.
@jadedavis2206
@jadedavis2206 5 месяцев назад
@@YasmineYtPlayz yes I was put referring to those words and thank you for giving me the right ones. I did not know that it was translated wrong
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
@@jadedavis2206 Your welcome !! ^^
@Stella_star-kk
@Stella_star-kk 5 месяцев назад
@@YasmineYtPlayzWAIT WHAT? HE WAS???
@s.aayori
@s.aayori 5 месяцев назад
Didn't Fukuzawa once ask Mori if he had?? Still???? An obsession????? Over little girls???????? Isn't that liking little girls??? Isn't that being a ped*?????? Though I agree with the video, I don't get why ppl are trying to defend him over THIS noww???🙏🙏
@wsgToeSuckers
@wsgToeSuckers 5 месяцев назад
i think people are just tired of having mori mischaracterized and not defending him being a pedo but in my opinion he is still a pedo and shows obvious traits of liking little girls from the anime, wan, and manga
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
Kafka made Mori a man who has a soft spot for little girls, but not in a romantic, sexual or any inappropriate way. Because if Kafka wanted to show that trait more he would've used more specific descriptions or made Mori talk to Elise or other kids like Yumeno or Yosano (as a kid) in a more explicit way than he actually does. Meaning that it is not Kafka's purpose. You can think of "giving Mori a soft spot" as making Fukuzawa love cats. Even tho Fukuzawa seems serious and cold (from outside) he is still very gentle with cats showing his "soft" side of personality. That is why they have the dialogue with "you still like little girls" "and you still like cats" which people mistranslated and interpreted as something sexual when it wasn't, just like Fukuzawa's love for cats. Now this one im taking words from my moot) The exact word isn't 'lust' it's a big mistranslation if u rlly think abt it. Fukuzawa asked if his 'liking' towards young girls hasn't changed. It actually means 'hobby' 'taste' 'interest'
@canugetthejoy
@canugetthejoy 5 месяцев назад
People aren’t validating it, but they’re saying that, he isn’t JUST a pedo, and that he’s almost always misunderstood. He’s an incredibly well written antagonist, who just happens to be one.
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
@@canugetthejoy But the thing is, him being a pehdo IS a fanon thing /nm
@canugetthejoy
@canugetthejoy 5 месяцев назад
@@YasmineYtPlayz well, there is proof though, is there not? I suppose it was never confirmed by asagiri, but there’s lots of evidence, that suggests he is a pedo. /nm
@CarlaChu_
@CarlaChu_ 5 месяцев назад
What bad translation, I actually like Mori's character sm, BUT HE IS A PED* But yes, i hate when people hate him ja because of that and ignore the fact that Mori's so well writen.
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
He isn't a ped0 I have proof😭🙏
@CarlaChu_
@CarlaChu_ 5 месяцев назад
@@ObsessedwithFyolai ???😭
@CarlaChu_
@CarlaChu_ 5 месяцев назад
@@ObsessedwithFyolai what proof😭
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
I'll make a video about it😋
@matchelesspoet
@matchelesspoet 5 месяцев назад
Idk i love mori jfjssa
@gh0ostt_0666
@gh0ostt_0666 5 месяцев назад
what
@AroAceFroggie
@AroAceFroggie 5 месяцев назад
bro literally says "I prefer women in my life to be under the age of 12"💀
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
that scene is a mistranslation btw. it goes from JP manga, EN manga to the anime, etc. He means "I'm touched but the only girls I protect are aged 12 and under I'm afraid." I even have a physical manga that says that. And I also have friends who are Japanese who help translate.
@s.aayori
@s.aayori 5 месяцев назад
Remind me when the proof video is out tjank you
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
it's out btw if u didn't know
@altdiscface101
@altdiscface101 5 месяцев назад
REAL TALKING TO MY CLASSMATE AND SHE WAS LIKE WHY DO U HATE HIM HES JUST A PEDO"
@dazai_arm_bandage
@dazai_arm_bandage 5 месяцев назад
mori, a asexual author. ruined by the fandom
@krz4chor
@krz4chor 5 месяцев назад
exactly, and he was actually known for spreading sexual awareness, the differences between sexual desires and what is love, that it doesn't need to be sexual
@MeliaeCinicNMors-tc7sn
@MeliaeCinicNMors-tc7sn 5 месяцев назад
NO WONDER I LIKE THE GUY SO MUCH!!! I feel understood now 😌
@vlnxd
@vlnxd 5 месяцев назад
More like ruined by Asagiri. BSD Mori is a pedo, irl Mori was ace
@Fruityexotix
@Fruityexotix 5 месяцев назад
@@vlnxd mori isn’t a pedo whatsoever. Reasoning: Mori is actually based on a doctor in the manga Jack Black, Asagiri is a fan of Jack Black, the doctor is an underground one who treats poor patients for low prices or even none at all. But, he charges rich patients a hefty price. The doctor has a child sidekick who is actually a doll with a tumor inside, this child is who Elise is based on. She likes to say she’s the wife of the doctor, though the doctor doesn’t see it that way and thinks of the child as his daughter. Mainly why people think mori is a pedo is because of the line “I like the women in my life to be under the age of twelve” which is a mistranslation and it was meant to mean Mori gets along with children instead of grown women. Mori’s character is way more messed up because of all the mistranslations.
@vlnxd
@vlnxd 5 месяцев назад
@@Fruityexotix ok, so I replied in another comment, but to make it simple, while Mori is inspired on the JB Doctor Asagiri took some liberties with the character and him being a pedo is both true and a joke. And I know about the mistranslation, but even if the 12 yo and "still obsessed over little girls?" Lines were a mistranslation, the reaction of the characters isn't approving at all, making it implicit there is in fact something going on
@Aksharas_World
@Aksharas_World 5 месяцев назад
I subbed
@Skai-f3n
@Skai-f3n 5 месяцев назад
Im sorry but bro literally said ' i like girls younger then 12' ☠️ tf are you trying to justify??
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
it's a mistranslation.. The actual translation should've been 'I only protect women under 12' and in the actual guide book it wasn't mistranslated to be that saying and plus it gets taken in the wrong way. When he says that he likes young women it doesn't specifically mean romantic he just likes taking care of them in a platonic way plus in th4 Beast ver he's the same except he isn't the PM boss anymore😭🙏
@Meowzyxxx
@Meowzyxxx 5 месяцев назад
But in the beast au elise is like older than she is in the normal au, but like why the fuck does he platonically like girls under 12? Like thats weird asf​@@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai
@ObsessedwithFyolai 5 месяцев назад
I said he platonicly likes to TAKE CARE OF them and people like the beast ver of Mori even though there isn't a difference just that he isn't the PM boss😭🙏
@Meowzyxxx
@Meowzyxxx 5 месяцев назад
@@ObsessedwithFyolai the thing is he doesn't like to take care of them, all the times he is shown with a kid other than elise he is abusing them, like even yosano he was mistreating her even though she was under 12. I mean maybe his version "looking after" or "taking care" of a kid is fucked but like he still treats elise (which I've heard his ability is like creating what he's attracted to, I might be wrong tho) kindly but kinda weird. Also how do the translators seem to mess up EVERY thing he says about kids, like whenever he's talking about little girls it seems to be translated in a way that makes him sound creepy. Like kouyou even says something to his "I prefer the women in my life to be under 12" with a comment like "shut up before I kill you" or something, so why would she say something like that to a light hearted comment about him looking after kids? Also fukuzawa comments on him liking little girls at one point, so it just doesn't make sense to me that everytime it's brought up that it's mistranslated and how come asagiri hasn't scolded the translators about it?
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
That's because he doesn't need another kid to take care of. Elise is meant to represent Mori's regrets and needs. He regrets how he handled Yosano and the situation in the war. He also regrets he chose Dazai and how he wasn't able to save him. For the needs, he NEEDS a helper. (Like in beast). Beast is how the characters would act if given the chance ​@@Meowzyxxx
@MeliaeCinicNMors-tc7sn
@MeliaeCinicNMors-tc7sn 5 месяцев назад
He’s not a pedo. (Maybe). Just a lolicon 🤪. And it’s always funny seeing the hate on him (for most stuff, there r a few things that go to far in my opinion) because I don’t hate Mori at all, I just think it’s funny to dump on him for some reason 😅
@Wizp-iii
@Wizp-iii 5 месяцев назад
Lolicon is basically a subcategory of pedophile (my way of explaining it 😊😊😮😮😮😮😮)
@sophiadealencar8721
@sophiadealencar8721 5 месяцев назад
Nah bro I dump on Dazai. I love some Dazai slander in my life tbh (I kin him help)
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
he isn't a lolicon either
@YasmineYtPlayz
@YasmineYtPlayz 5 месяцев назад
he isn't a lolico either
@vlnxd
@vlnxd 5 месяцев назад
I'm sorry to inform you about this, but being a lolicon is being a pedo. Lolis are a whole topic because it has a lot of categories, but in simple, they are underage girls
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