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「Is the World ready for a Steam Machine 2?」 

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@WMan37
@WMan37 7 месяцев назад
I just want a Steam Deck Controller, four backpaddles, two touchpads, 2 analog sticks, and all. I can make my own "Steam Machine" with bazzite OS and a beelink mini PC. If valve made a Steam Deck Controller, I would never buy any other kind of controller ever again unless a new revision came out that has dualsense-esque haptics. I don't need a steam machine, I need a Steam Deck 2, that will be my steam machine since it can dock.
@perfidious333
@perfidious333 7 месяцев назад
My recommendation would be to buy anything and everything that Valve makes. 🫡
@RandomNPC15
@RandomNPC15 7 месяцев назад
I was literally just going to post that. I just got a Steam Deck a month ago and I'm blown away with how nice the controls are, a standalone controller would be amazing. I wish you could customize the default glyphs though, I always preferred playstation controllers and grew up with nintendo so the xbox layout has me fumbling when I have to read on screen prompts.
@TacoSupremo
@TacoSupremo 7 месяцев назад
​@@RandomNPC15 hmm, hey honestly speaking I don't know if this is what you are looking for or if it will solve your issues, but in the steam deck configurations, in controller settings, it has a switch to use the Nintendo buttons distribution.
@aarronlee
@aarronlee 7 месяцев назад
Dualsense Edge is basically a Steam controller in terms of available inputs; it has 4 extra buttons, gyro, and Steam actually sees the trackpad as three separate trackpads in Steam Input (left, center, right).
@WMan37
@WMan37 7 месяцев назад
@@aarronlee Can you individually program the 4 back buttons separately from CircleSquareTriangleX in steam input or are they just shortcuts to those inputs? $200 for a controller is a bitter pill to swallow. Also, I only see 2 grip triggers on that thing, not 4.
@brutalness
@brutalness 7 месяцев назад
Steam deck = take your PCs on the go. Steam Machine = selling PCs to people who have PCs
@KingKrouch
@KingKrouch 7 месяцев назад
Nah, HTPC setups are still a rather untapped market, and there's plenty of people who can't or won't pay upwards to a grand for a decent gaming PC setup that can still run current-gen games.
@cptncutleg
@cptncutleg 7 месяцев назад
I totally agree. Steam Decks ARE the Steam Machines. Further handheld portables using SteamOS will also be Steam Machines.
@brutalness
@brutalness 7 месяцев назад
@@KingKrouch u don't need a 1k pc to run new games
@Faruq-xn4gj
@Faruq-xn4gj 7 месяцев назад
To me Steam Machine 2 initiation will be like this: 1. Valve will be releasing SteamOS 3 to the public for FREE. 2. SteamOS 3 will be compatible with Intel, AMD, and Nvidia hardware with Steam Deck as baseline minimal specification. 3. The only hardware Valve will make is Steam Controller 2. 4. Steam Controller 2 can be bundle with SteamOS 3, Steam Deck, or OEM PC(unlikely but possible).
@Spencerwalker21
@Spencerwalker21 7 месяцев назад
I want vakve to make a pc thats about 700$ with steam deck os rhat crushes the ps5 pro i mean absolutely trashes it and have it readily available to purchase in retailers like best buy.
@KingKrouch
@KingKrouch 7 месяцев назад
With how GPU prices are still a meme thanks to NVIDIA, I honestly think that having a Steam Machine with specifications on par with what you'd expect from current-gen consoles (Either a PS5 or Xbox Series X), for a decent price (preferably less than a prebuilt), would be a pretty nice shakeup and what we'd need for PC Gaming to remain accessible. I remember last gen when I could put together a PC that played games better than the Xbox One, with all the other added benefits for around $100 more than a console. The entry level GPU market of $150 or even the midrange $250 market is basically dead at this point thanks to NVIDIA's greed. People don't like to admit it, but there's been hardly any innovation or trickle down economics this generation, unlike the last. Also, I'd love a controller that is basically like a Steam Deck's in terms of ergonomics and available input options. Just minus the big screen.
@AVWUVU
@AVWUVU 7 месяцев назад
I would absolutely love a steam machine. I've literally been waiting for one for years now. I do believe they are working on one but won't release it until after steam deck 2 release. If we say the steam deck 2 releases at the end of 2026, then maybe at the end of 2027, we could probably get a new steam machine. On the other note, I never agreed with the idea of it competing against consoles since the amount of gamers switching from console to pc and vise versa is extremely low. Sony and Microsft release their games on steam because it makes them a lot of money, especially Sony, who came out and said this last year. Steam was never a competitor but rather an extra form of income. Lastly, besides lower pricing from valve over making your own PC, the other important benefit would be it would give developers a set of hardware to opimize akin to deck verified. These two points alone would make it very tantalizing for people who want to game on PC with a pick up and play style without all the hazzle to build one themselves.
@SamuHell782
@SamuHell782 7 месяцев назад
A Subsidized Steam Machine capable of proper 1080p40+ @high settings would make 1st time gamers or the ones rocking an old office pc / hand-me-down laptops, very happy. Not holding my breath though.
@badmoose01
@badmoose01 7 месяцев назад
I have a feeling that Sony might second guess publishing their games to PC if Valve makes a standalone console. I think that Steam Deck is just different enough from the PS5 that they aren’t really competitors.
@Malxer
@Malxer 3 месяца назад
Fr though I'd buy a Steam controller 2 and a Steam Machine 2 if they ever released it. The quality of the Steam Deck but as a real couch console with more power and my entire steam library is an easy purchase. Plus, you can always resume your games with steam cloud on the steam deck. I'd love this.
@tomcampbell8117
@tomcampbell8117 7 месяцев назад
I have a better idea. Valve releases steam deck 2 with oculink at the bottom of a case together with a docking station with egpu in it, and whoever wants a better graphics on their TV's just buys this extra docking station.
@yaknow5252
@yaknow5252 6 месяцев назад
This is a great idea. It would really help in longevity of my steam deck to have a steam machine
@jlebrech
@jlebrech 7 месяцев назад
a little machine you can plug into your router and play anywhere in the house
@happygofishing
@happygofishing 7 месяцев назад
Linux gaming is ready.
@SamuHell782
@SamuHell782 7 месяцев назад
The Switch will never have a non-handheld version. A Steam Machine might resurge BUT the Deck form factor is what people want from Valve the most. SteamOS with drivers for any x86 machine on the other hand will make people VERY happy! Then AMD APUs improving gen after gen, and bobs your uncle!
@nempk1817
@nempk1817 6 месяцев назад
Steam machine 2 would be a PC with predefined hardware like steam deck. I would be good because pre-config PC's vendors make money on the hardware sell, something that i would think Valve would sell it cheaper than most pre-config PC's and maintaining software for a specific hardware would be more easy exact like steam deck. Basically attract the console Player's to steam.
@LordShockwave9
@LordShockwave9 7 месяцев назад
I actually made my own Steam Machine using one of those hack Linux OS idstros (based on the current Steam Deck OS) and even owned one of those Linux-based Steam Machines from back in the day. It was this concept that originally got me into PC gaming, and of course, own a Steam Deck. I think Valve would be better off not releasing a console-focused PC and let others do the work and maintain their original goal of not having Microsoft be the only game in town for PC gaming.
@chriswoods7774
@chriswoods7774 6 месяцев назад
Ill be intrested in another Steam Machine and Ill give it another chance, its just not many games worked back then and now with proton it seems the possibilitys are about to shine, the steam controller was not the best and I can see Valve making an much better one, like the Steam Deck's controller layout, 2 control sticks, 1 control pad 2 trackpads your A,B,Y,X buttons with a start and pause buttons as well as a Steam Button and a ... Button for a other option menu bascially like the Steam Deck.
@MutleeIsTheAntiGod
@MutleeIsTheAntiGod 7 месяцев назад
I'm of the mind we don't need a console steam machine. Give us a dock for the deck with multiple USB ports and HDMI and audio out, maybe SSD. And a steam controller 2
@stevencase3289
@stevencase3289 7 месяцев назад
they could take the steam deck and put the boards in a box and sell that a little cheaper than a steam deck, but it would essentially just a mini pc, i acually just don't see the point any more if i want a pc i can't take with me i want it to be powerfull enough to play my games better than a steamdeck with the new apu's it could work but it'd still just be an entry level pc you would want to upgrade eventually and if theres no real upgrade path what's the point if you could spend a little more, the real value of the steamdeck besides mobility long term is the os and i think valve is aware of that if they poured only god knows how many resources into that the hardware is the easy part, steam os will run on any amd based decent pc with an amd gpu
@marksnethkamp8633
@marksnethkamp8633 7 месяцев назад
NOooooo! We just need the OS! We already know how to make computers! Edit - also steamOS (while great) isnt a conskle competitor & Id never recommend it to a normie. Try explaing why your new console cant run a great on deck game on high settings...
@Moskeeto
@Moskeeto 7 месяцев назад
Yes, WE know how. But the casual gaming audience that is afraid of jumping into PC gaming doesn't know how. Imagine if Valve made a powerful Steam Machine at an affordable, subsidized price. How many casuals would join PC for the first time?
@emlyndewar
@emlyndewar 7 месяцев назад
It would be much more difficult to curate for. Plugging in to a TV you’ll be wanting a higher resolution than 800p. Many would have the unrealistic 4K expectation. I ran the most recent HoloISO on my mini-PC and the interface is just much nicer to use than normal Windows/Linux, still it just wasn’t right. If they put the work in, then I’d happily buy whatever they put out. Hell, I’d be happy with just an official Valve release of SteamOS, even if it was AMD only.
@Moskeeto
@Moskeeto 7 месяцев назад
Why are you assuming a modern Steam Machine would be optimized for 800p? If they properly made one then it would be optimized for 4k displays.
@emlyndewar
@emlyndewar 7 месяцев назад
I’m not assuming that at all. I’m saying it would be an issue, as gaming at 4K isn’t easy…
@AgentMoler
@AgentMoler 7 месяцев назад
I’ve also been thinking about a new steam machine. I believe that if they were going to do it, they should focus on 2 versions. Version 1 would be a base model which would target 1080p 120fps ($400) and V2 would target 4k 60-100fps (about $650-700). I dont think that integrating a trackpad on a controller makes sense now because many games now support gamepad, I think that they could instead create an optional trackpad accessory possibly bundled with a keyboard for games that need that. A major hurdle would still be marketing it to the right customers as you can already build something like this on your own. I think they would have to bundle in some kind of discount period for game purchases to really entice people. The games you like to play, with better graphics, and cheaper than on console. It would be a winning formula. (And yes I know about the keys marketplaces but the non gaming enthusiast doesn’t. If they did, they would already have a pc or steam deck!).
@EeveeLO6
@EeveeLO6 7 месяцев назад
🎮
@EliseoRocha
@EliseoRocha 7 месяцев назад
I was just thinking about this the other day.
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