I like how everyone is talking about how quirky Jinako is, while Ganesha is so fuckin lazy she possesed jinako but gave her full control and just took a nap The greatest duo
Please dont use abuses for a god like Ganesha...he is still worshipped by many people across the world...in fact I am a bit angry, slightly irritated with what they have done with Ganesha here, quite literally....
@@ren5689 I dont mind being that, some people literally worship the god that has been ruined by fate. Many people still follow his faith, at the end of the day might as well say what you want but it just shows how inconsiderate you are.
Well there is a reason she doesn't know about Kiara's truth. In Extra CCC, Jinako got sent back to Earth thanks to Karna giving his armor to her which happen before the reveal of Kiara's scheme. She basically missed the finale of CCC at that point.
Pardon the necroing, but there’s a third possible reason. Went on TVTropes (I’m a filthy Fate casual), learned that Jinako could also be considered a Moon Cancer because she lost in the Grail War (she never showed up to her matches because she’s a big wuss, oblivious to Karna being OP as a servant) but avoided deletion on the Moon Cell.
MyniBBa Tyrone I kinda went by the logic of “I tried to delete you so you don’t exist, you’re not deleted and thus existence, your existence is thusly a cancer upon mine” on this one. If it doesn’t fit, it doesn’t fit. No biggie.
Okkie: Oho? You're approaching me? Jinako: I can't play that console without getting closer... Okkie: Then come as close as you like! .....I have a second controller!
@@kanicunny the time u thougt erased wasnt actually erased, because the time u erased never happened, this is the power of my stand GOLDEN EXPERIENCE REQUIEM YOUR EFFORTS WERE MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDAAAA
The NEET Willpower of Jinako is so strong that her will and personality overwrote those of the godess Ganesha completely... She is definetly terrifying in some aspects
@@ssbc1873 I tought Ganesha was actually depicted as both F and M depending on the legend? I am not really sure, I am not familiar with indian culture at all...
I was so happy hearing about jinako as a moon cancer for many reasons. First being jinako after reading extra ccc and her development with karna and the cast and second being a moon cancer to be a middle finger to bb who messed with her.
@@Merotryz but bb( and kiara) also were going to screw them over in extra so it still stands. Sure this bb is nicer(in a way) but jinako still won't forget. Also funny enough. Jinako has a bigger chest than bb same as lizsret to Sakura. I just hope dw keeps this train going and makes at least 1 3 star of every class and 5 star to the basic gacha to introduce new players(future gudako) by letting them star with rare classes
@@ivanbluecool You said in a way she is searching revenge or something but read her BB lines again, she is just want to hide and do nothing that involve BB plots.
@@Merotryz well jinako is a bas master by karna standards so of course wmshe Woudnt deal with bb. She is insane to even be around so best jinako just hide with osakibehime somewhere and play online games with blackbeard(online friend only)
So Jinako can express her own personality even being a pseudo-servant? Wow, that's cool! To think most of the vessels souls stay "locked" in a space is a bit sad, however.
I think it depend in the servant they fused with,some may change your apearance and personality but then we have waver that more like being ignored by zhuge liang(since he never apeared or afecting him)
Depends on the god/goddess. Some are fully the god/dess's personality, some are fully the vessels, but most are a mix. Jinako noted that Ganesha just picked her cuz their wavelengths match, then left her be cuz he's also a NEET.
@@vinantiasher1160 Fate's version of Ganesha is the same as the one in Indian mythology, but he's letting Jinako from Fate CCC do all the talking while he lives in an cozy apartment inside her head. They have high synchronization in their spirits, so his feelings are her feelings, and she can use their combined powers freely.
ok now guys, let me enlighten you with the true facts and stories of Ganesha, this is going to be long but plz read it, as this will also give you an insight of events before mahabharata: 1. ) His original body was sculpted from the dead skin cells of Parvati, that was granted life and was ordered by her to guard the entrance of the bath house while she has a bath, Lord Shiva had an urgent business with Parvati so he went there only to have it found guarded by a kid, he ordered him to get out of his way but the kid didn't move an inch and vowed that he will do his duty. Lord Shiva got enraged and decided to test his will power,so he summoned his mount, Nandi to deal with him but the kid got him KO'd. Lord Indra saw this chance to prove his worth in front of Lord Shiva, so he decided to use his Vajra (thunderbolt more powerful than Vasavi Shakti), but that kid 'Swallowed' that weapon, so to prevent his mother's bath getting disturbed, making him a little obese. After many failed attempts by the Gods including Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu, Lord Shiva took his Trident and threw it so hard that it decapitated the kid. Parvati when came out of bath house, was shocked to see her son's lifeless body and severed head, she got angry and started becoming dark (turning into Goddess Kaali) but still she begged to her husband to bring him back alive. Then Shiva granted her request because of guilt and the triggering of the curse( in pt.2), he ordered his Ganas (Shiva's revenant army) to bring a severed head of any animal spotted first. Ganas spotted an elephant first, they brought that elepahnt's head and Shiva joined that head to the body and brought him back to life using his Recreation powers and 'Ganesha' was reborn. 'Ganesha' is made of amalgamation of two sanskrit words 'Gana' and 'Ishwar', literal meaning 'The Lord and Commander of Ganas'( Ganas= savage undead souls and heroic revenants who spent their life doing good karma and devotion to Lord Shiva). Plus he is the God of Good Luck, Prosperity, Vanquisher of Obstacles, Master of Arts( Good and Evil) and the Smartest God in Hindu mythology. 2.) When the universe was formed, some bad things started to happen when Lord Brahma's 5th head started cursing of destruction of humanity and the universe's life force, as Brahma's duty was creation, not destruction, made Shiva enrage as he was abandoning his 'Dharma' of creation, slashed his head off, but it was too late, the blood and sweat of that severed head gave birth to a man named 'SahastraKavacha'( one with 1000 armours) and that man went on rampage, killing everything. Lord Vishnu witnessed the whole event was worried about it and he created two henchmen named 'Nara' and gave him 1000 hands to break the armors, and 'Narayan' to guide him. Both together attacked SahastraKavacha and started shattering his armor and Nara's hands getting damaged in turn till the point that there was only one armor and two hands remaining. Then Vishnu Interfered and ordered Nara and Narayan to stop this battle, Sahastrakavacha saw this opportunity and prayed to lord surya to hide him in his body, he agreed and and they both merged,this made Lord Shiva royally pissed and decapitated Surya using pashupata, making the stars in the universe to lose its light, this made Lord Surya's Father, Great Sage Bharadwaj( one of the 7 sages) cursed Shiva to Decapitate his own son's head ( in future, Ganesha's decapitation) and to go to earth and start his exile for penance and ask for forgiveness from the living things. Even as the pinnacle Lord, Lord Shiva humbly accepted this curse and then promised him to enact it,plus he resurrected Surya and grant him a boon of fatherhood to Sahastrakavacha to make him reborn as 'KARNA' in his next life by removing Lord Brahma's severed Kavacha and replacing it with Surya's Kavacha and grant it to a certain princess named Kunti. And here Lord Vishnu Commanded Nara to be reborn as Indra's Son 'ARJUNA' and Narayan as 'LORD KRISHNA' and be the Mentor of Arjuna in the upcoming future.(KARNA'S BRAHMA GOD'S BRACE FROM FATE EXTELLA IS A REFERENCE TO HIS PAST LIFE). 3.) As a child, Ganesha took the role of Writer of Mahabharata as per the request of Sage Vyasa as the Narrator and order of Lord Shiva. Yes, he decided the fates of Karna, Arjuna, Ashwathamma and all other heroes and made their conflicts, their struggles from time eternal or from their previous lives to an ultimate battlefield of Kurukshetra, to settle these sufferings and making humans understand the upcoming conflicts once and for all. He even made his Uncle, Lord Vishnu's incarnates like Parashurama do things which changed the course of heroes life like Karna's curse of forgetfullness and Making Lord Krishna struggle to uphold good values and make his attempt of prevention of Battle between Pandavas and Kauravas in vain. Here the biggest sufferer is Lord Krishna, because he felt the pain of each and every heroes death, Like Karna's decapitation. Ganesha did this because he hold a certain hatred towards Lord Vishnu's incarnates especially Parashurama, because he was the one who chipped his right tusk. 4.) It is because of Ganesha, the hindus have vegetarian diet. Because as a child, he unknowingly hurt a stray cat by a stone just to drive it away while he was feasting , the cat got hurt and ran away, but when he got home only to find Parvati, his mother's forehead bleeding, he got angry and asked her who did this, she replied that it was him that her head is bleeding, he was shocked and asked how, Parvati then replied that she is the life force herself from a single cell to all bigger organisms and asked him not to hurt any animals again, instead protect them. 5.) The mouse in Jinako's hand is nothing but a shapeshifter demon( sorry i dont remember that Asura's name) defeated by Ganesha. During their fight, that tried to escape from him by becoming a mouse, but Ganesha Jumped right on him. The demon was scared right away, and accepted Lord Ganesha's Supremacy and promised his eternal service to him. In turn, Ganesha made that mouse his mount and gave him name 'Mushak', a sanskrit word for mouse. So that's it for now. thanks for reading :)
5:54 - 6:24 & 8:45 - 8:52 Even as a Pseudo-Servant, she still remembers her beloved Launcher....I'm not crying, dammit! 10:15 - 10:24 ....Would it ruin Jinako's character if she did lose weight? I'm not sure what impact it could have on her personality, whether it would be positive or negative.
More than a dialect I think it is a way of speaking. "[...] '-ssu' is an abbreviation of -desu/-masu. In general, the speaker, usually a young male, would use it when he wants to make his speech sound still polite in a casual and chatty tone. For example, in a sport club, it's very commonly used by "kohai" toward "senpai" and would never be used toward someone at the same or younger age. In fact, whether the use of "ssu" sounds rather polite, appropriate or rather rude, inappropriate depends on the relationship between the speaker and the listener and the situation where it's used."
@@rindou97 Ah yea you're right, it's like Iroha from Oregairu, i just remembered. I always thought it was some dialect. Thanks for the clarification! I'll edit my comment.
@@Cooliealot Kamen Rider Decade's catchphrase is basically "I'm just a passing-by Kamen Rider!", which Jinako kinda copied with a similiar tone at 1:40
9:43 Gatou!!!!! The man sacrifice him self entering the fire wall to get Jinako's SG for Hakunon Only Gatou can touch Jinako heart before Launcher has been defeated....
@@alphawolf7417 its really good. I thought it was a fighting game mostly but its more a vn with battles in it. Jinako is so incredible as she absolutely destroys the neet cliche with how incredible her character is from beggining to end and karna is great in this story showing how great he is Espeiclaly against Gilagemsh who is wonderful. Plus jinako like taiga has some of the best reactions and designs on her face like taiga which makes her one of my Fvaoeite females.
@@ivanbluecool she definitely has a good design from what I've seen in images. She seems to skim the line between cute and hot perfectly. Also i love how she's part of the story focusing around Karna who is by far the most badass servant I've ever seen in Fate. I've seen a bunch of images of the 2 of them on google and i gotta say "Yeah i ship it.". Meanwhile in unrelated news i finally...FINALLY got OG saber in FGO. I'm so freaking happy.
@@alphawolf7417 og saber is cool but not until she can get a few more buffs but sure congrats. Jinako being fat in extra was important as well but her design and story is super great snd I'm glad I read it before karna had his story come out. Also best part is my wish for dw came true as I said to myself the only way fgo can evolve is to get one od every class and make ir a permanent 5 star in the gacha. Now we need an alter ego which is coming in lost belt so ill wait on him and a foeirner as well as a welfare one. And an avenger as well. Add all those classes into the base gacha and promote the game as being able to get any of the classes in spooks. That would up the game more to whales who already spend
@@ivanbluecool yeah she definitely needs better buffs but still its the fact that she completes my collection of all the OG servants (sans Gilgamesh). Also her dialogue for Archer and her knights is really sweet. It just feels nice. Like i said idk a lot about jinako but from the images of extra i saw she doesn't look fat but instead looks more..... curvaceous like liz.
I just got through it. Jinako is so incredible. After seeing her story destroy the NEET life cliche years ago was incredible to read. Also her voice range is incredible. She is like taiga but a bit different
@@Vejitatheouji well a guy called the inhumanbreakdown did a play through and translation of the Gilagemsh route so you can go there to see the story play out. It will take a while for the story to pick up but once it does you will enjoy it Plus I wish I read it before playing ccc to understand more of the story
you know hakuno should be at least a 5 star ruler if it was extella right? i mean he have 16 servant in his pocket and have to have all the lines for them all since they're all here... though i really want abe to voice... wait, it'll be 2 bodied servant like ann-bonnie, and they both can be there. dual bodied 5 star support ruler. with so many other servant line it might even break the record
10:21 - "I'm being worked hard and exercising so much but I'm not losing any weight at all! The laws of physics aren't working anymore." - Um... I'd actually think the fact you spontaneously grew a set of extra arms would be the bigger hint that physics are in absentia right now XP
First, i watch kr decade and he say 'torisugari no kamen rider' And then some japanese tv said 'torisugari no mailman da' And now this. Srysly ganesha? But nah, 10/10 gacha for this PM: why you know what im thinking, ganesha? 😂😂
1:40 "I'm a passing-by god-type Servant, Ganesha!" Ah yes, a Decade reference. 1:49 "Eh..., No way, SSR?... For real!?!" WAIT! SHE KNOW!?! 6:50 "onaji typu no stand..." I dare you finish that line.
To give some context: Whilst her Saint Graph (basically like her avatar/vessel) basically viewed as Ganesha when viewed by other characters, only certain people like BB and the protagonist (players/us) can see her as Jinako Carigiri instead of Ganesha. Unlike other pseudo-servants when it comes to the personality/dominant inhabitant of their vessel, the opposite happened here where Jinako is still Jinako. It just so happened that she got registered to the hall of heroes as Ganesha due to her dying with Karna's shield thingies (which protected her from dying and thus registering her as a pseudo-servant). She's basically just Jinako with at least half of [Servant Ganesha]'s abilities/power. And goddamnit, idk who the artist is but they're really good at making me simp for this cute and chubby woman (she's in her 30's btw, she's very much legal)
She's 29, but yeah, basically all of that is correct. She's basically proto-futaba for persona 5 fans. Honestly I think Aoi Yuki gets a lot of input on her characters since, like the voice actor for Konoduba's Kazuma, she's an ad-lib genius.
Well the reason she doesn't know is that she got sent back to Earth by Karna before the reveal of Kiara's true motive in CCC which only happen if you follow the true ending route. Only Hakuno & Hans who know about Kiara's true face.
@@elderalencar4832 Yeah Kiara the one who cause the Sakura ai to go haywire which end up creating BB. The other alter egos don't know about Kiara, but I don't remember if BB know about her too.
Figured it out. Jinako hacked the Moon Cell and Ganesha has a story of him cursing the moon for laughing at him so double reason for them to be MoonCancer.
@@rhadamanthys649 No they are not, hikkikomori is not the same thing as NEET. Futaba has severe anxiety but is extremely educated, while Jinako doesn't but is just ultra lazy and unproductive.
You know when Jinako say that once that everything is over we can go to her room to play games it really made me think about the difference of age between gudao (15-17) and jinako(29), but then i realize that she is from the future, more specific the year 2032, which means that if jinako exist in fate/go's timeline gudao is older than her