Pronunciation is the number 1 big hurdle for adult second-language speakers. They tend to be stronger in grammar because that involves more analytical skills. In contrast, for overseas Chinese people who may have spoken Chinese at a very young age, they may have very strong and accurate pronunciation but weaker on vocabulary and grammar.
Agreed !!! My wife always tells me that my "words" are correct but my pronunciation is wrong - which means the actual word I say is wrong, too. I just can't get the four sound inflections.... But it seems the Mandarin noun-verb placement is similar to German; but I can't help but think like an American.
Mark Zuckerberg's grammar and vocabulary are good, probably better than mine. It's his pronunciation that's really bad and it makes it near impossible to understand what he's saying. Like at 8:15, with the line that Jessie (and I) kept struggling to understand, I thought the last word he said was "avenger".
That's why pronunciation is what you wanna master first of all. Tones aren't really that hard at all, I've never spoken any tonal language, and Chinese was my first, I decided that working on pronunciation was my priority, so in the first weeks I practiced a lot on reading PinYin accurately, so now my pronunciation is pretty good for a beginner. I still can't talk about the weather or ask what time it is, but I can accurately pronounce any PinYin + read around ~300 characters (the second thing I focused on)
"today i want to say 3 things" well ok then why not you know put up 3 fingers instead of doing a side slash? his hand gestures don't support his speech either.
I feel like he should work on his accent. It sounds VERY american. He should watch some C-Drama and his accent and pronunciation will improve over time.
me gusto mucho tu analisis del Chino de Mark Zuckerberg algo muy bonito que tiene el mandarin es la pronunciacion que se escuhe como el Chino Nativo Natural y no como si fuese una maquina gracias por tu canal aqui apredere mas de este bonito Idioma Xie Xie
@@SieMiezekatzeNo son idiomas diferentes, simplemente el Chino es una "macrolengua" que abarca todos los "dialectos" del Chino. Así que idiomas como el Mandarín y Cantonés son idiomas Chinos. Si hablas del Chino, tienes que especificar qué "tipo" de Chino. La gente solo dice Chino para referirse al Mandarín porque es la asociación inmediata que tenemos del idioma, pero es incorrecto. El concepto de idioma Chino abarca alrededor de 300 dialectos, aunque muchos son tan diferentes que podríamos considerarlos idiomas diferentes.
This is what happens when a very smart guy with a background in classical languages is very busy and takes a stab at a very alien language. It's not great but also not too bad!
Raising our tones when we list things in English is not actually part of our language Jessie. That is simply the dialect of the speaker. Tones do not matter to us at all when speaking English. Tones communicate the emotion of the speaker at that precise moment.
That isn't quite true. We DO raise our word endings when we list stuff because we have to signal for each entry we're not done with the list yet (unless of course you reach your final item.) This is pretty universal among English speakers. Tones matter in English, just not in the same way they do in Chinese.
I would say tones DO matter when expressed in sentences. It changes the emotion and meaning of what was expressed. But like another comment, not in the same way as Mandarin. :)
English has at least one true tone- the question tone. Think about how you would say, for example, "That is green" as a declaration, vs. "That is green?" as a question. The tonality (rising question tone) completely changes the meaning in English.
@@joeosborn123 This is true, but the word order is as important as the inflection, as you would you usually say "Is that green?" rather than "That is green?". "Is that...?" is an actual question, whereas "That is...?" sounds more argumentative, or in disbelief, as though you're being challenged about something.
He always being made fun of as being a robot or reptilian, because he speaks even English in such a monotone robotic way yeah and him continuing to confirm and reaffirm that he is in fact human, would be like going into a bar and saying I'm not a murderer, murdering is bad, everyone there would distance themselves and be looking lol
I don't know much about tones and pronunciation, but I know I like listening to Chinese. Maybe he is good,and I understand the difficulty but I feel uncomfortable listening to him, so for me his Chinese sucks.