@@randallwong7196 let's nerf some Russian tanks below real life first and make Chinese transmissions break etc. Let's buff the tiger 1 then, above real life.
Imagine telling Accuracy is too high when the Sturm Tiger literally needs to elevated the main gun to engage at range. Also, this is Warthunder, Gun accuracy is depends on the player to aim.
@Joe bruh, you're telling me a battleship would engage a tank at 2km range?? Battleship optimal range is 10-20km, a freaking 16inch maximum range is 24km.
At that angle of attack on the warship the magazines would have never been hit. Especially by an HE Mortor round. Also, with only 83mm of penetration those rocket Propelled mortor rounds are only doing surface damage except for the pilothouse of most of the ships. Even with plunging fire the rounds are not direction blasts so the rounds would still explode and cause blast damage but not set fires right away. The concussion blast would actually put out fires and move light flammable objects away before they got hot enough to ignite. Shipboard firefighting 101 right there.
@Joe This is half true. The mortar was intended for coastal defense, firing depth charges against submerged submarines, which would not entail the ability to penertate a ship's deck. The rocket projectile was developed explicitly for the Sturmtiger. Even still, I don't think it would be able to reach the magazine of anything larger than a destroyer, ships are just too dense.
The vehicle wasn't intended for use in coastal defense (doubt it could have been used effectively against any type of moving target really). It was intended to be a bunker-buster with the ammunition being capable of penetrating almost 3 meters of reinforced concrete, which is way tougher than the armour of anything other than a battleship.
This was cool to watch. Fun matchup. Sturm's rate of fire however was 1 round every 10 min. HE not AP. Provided the ships guns could deppress low enough i'm thinking there woyld be a lot scrap metal on the dock after the first exchange of fire...still and all loved watching this. Good one.
The main guns on the bigger ships have a much longer range then the range of the Sturmtigers' guns. The ships could have stayed out of range and blow the heck out of the dock and the Sturmtigers without having to worry about being hit.
@@stareye3176 Salvo from 9x305mm guns is 9x470kg shot at 900m/s. A hit of such a single projectile leaves crater wider than 10 meters. Those 4 tanks would've just been blown into pieces even by indirect hits. Even medium artillery like 152mm light cruiser guns or 100-152mm Kronshtadt secondaries would be perfectly enough to destroy a tank from mere 200-300 meters at any angle.
Hell I'm sorry, there's no way to build a tank with enough armor to withstand even a light cruiser's 6 inch gun with the velocity those AP shells would have at what's basically in naval terms...point blank range. And to miss shots that freaking close to your target is a sin. And agreed those rocket propelled mortars wouldn't stand a chance against typical armor scheme of every ship here except the torpedo boat and the frigate.The sure don't have the velocity or the ballistics of flight needed that shells have from a rifled gun.
If the warship keep their distance, it will be a one-sided battle. Since the subject of this video is Sturmtiger, we are fighting at this close range to make it a fair fight.
I really enjoyed watching this epic battle! The Sturms were fascinating to observe and their deadly effects on the warships. A lot of fun and wow factor!
The German tank Divisions found out what it was really like to be on the receiving end of 16" (403mm) Battleship guns, 15 Miles (24km) away, during the fight for Northern France in 1944 - HE shells. They'd had a taste of it when they fired on RN destroyer in Fall of France in 1940, and they were on y 4" (100mm) guns - but with AP shells.
@Joe Actually documented by the Germans, that it was members "Brandenburg Special Services Unit", that shot at their own border guards to provide the excuse to invade. They tried the same "trick" again when they invaded The Netherlands and Belgium, 7-8 months later.
The trajectory is the real game changer in here, by plunging it could bypass the thin armoured deck of the ships (some ships) and Stürm has a 38cm rocket.
Naval guns could score plunging fire hits at distance. Naval architects designed defenses for that like turtleback armor. Some warships definitely had armored decks, British ships dome to mind.
@MartyInLa The turtleback armor scheme was designed for close ranges, which is why the Bismarck proved difficult (but not impossible) to sink. It's a WWI armor scheme.
@@tsuaririndoku from what I've read, Hood was considered to be Battlecruiser, so I would assume that since the Bismarck is a full time Battleship it sports a thicker and better armour schemes whereas Hood designed to be 'fast' battleship and had a less thicker armour.
The 6" AP rounds from the light cruiser should have had no trouble punching through the Sturmtiger's armor at that range. The 15" HE shells from the Kronstadt's main guns would have blown the Sturmtigers to pieces, and the 15" AP rounds would be like, "Did I hit something?"
I'm not trying to pick away at the simulation but I'm guessing as long as the big deck guns could get low enough for a firing solution, those tanks wouldn't stand a chance.
Read an account of battles between Russian tanks and armored trains in Russia; when the bigger guns on the armored train hit a Russian tank there would be no more than dime-sized pieces left.
You could really sense the enormous firepower a BB tier ship had, imagine actually being the little guy in a battlefield facing such enemies at a close distance...damn.
Yeah, no. The ships were woefully inaccurate. The Sturmtiger reloads ahistorically quick. 127mm and 152mm shells would do a lot of bad things to these vehicles. Battleship shells were flipping Tiger tanks in Normandy like a young child throwing a tantrum. I can see the Sturmtiger rounds being a threat to Cruisers and smaller ships, but not Battleships. Battleship critical spaces are too well protected to these high explosive shells. They were meant to withstand other Battleships slinging large armor piercing shells at them. Battleship South Dakota at Guadalcanal was taking a pounding from a handful of Japanese Destroyers, Cruisers, and one 356mm armed Battleship, Kirishima. Kirishima was firing 380mm high explosive rounds at South Dakota because Kirishima was on a mission to shell the Henderson Field, and American Battleships showing up was not in the forecast. South Dakota took a lot of hits from 127mm, 203mm, 356mm shells but was never in any danger of sinking. So the Battleship being sunk by a handful of high explosive rockets? That's bull. But this is an arcade game, I guess. If we want to be real, these ships would be shelling the Sturmtigers from afar.
@Joe The batteries of AA guns and possibly secondary guns would be more than a match for a handful of armored vehicles. Yes, at that range the main guns would useless on most battleships but in terms of raw power difference let me put it this way, I believe it was Wisconsin who was engaged by 155mm ground based artillery in Korea and responded with a full broadside from her 16in battery, obliterated the artillery and everyone else in the area while receiving no discernable damage and only a few injured crew members. Battleships are just on a whole other level of firepower. Even their secondaries are equivalent to most light cruisers.
This is so unrealistic. The torpedo boat I could understand, but the rest had guns designed to penetrate naval armor, which was thicker than any tank armor. The Sturmtigers would have been reduced to scrap metal from the frigate and up.
The secondary armament of most of these ships would likely put out enough fire to go down the barrel of the Sturmtiger and destroy the rocket projectile in the tube before it could be fired. No armor there if a round hits it.
The frigate would have opened up on the sturmtiger well outside of the sturmtigers range and anti aircraft weapons would have gone through the sturm tiger like shit through a goose.
@@zohaibtariq7351 you are daft the 5" 38 caliber were dual purpose aa also the 40mm Bofors would have blown right through the be sturm tiger the sturm tigers mortor was a close range weapon I'll suited to firing on moving targets.
Ya…simply hitting the small gunboat would be next to impossible with such slow moving projectiles. Also Each ship is coming from exactly the same direction and their guns are VERY CLEARLY NERFED.
Remember that time the Hier used a battery of Sturmtigers to hold off the allied fleet at d-day? This makes me think warships are under powered as hell in warthunder
They are, one torpedo can sink a dreadnought in warthunder. Irl it's hard as hell to actually sink a ship. Hell the U.S.S. Nevada was a ww1 dreadnought battleship and it fought 2 wars then took 2 nuclear bombs and survived both explosions. They had to set a massive charge in her citadel to sink her.
The tanks seem to be in god mode, I've seen several hits that would've taken out a modern tank let alone those relics. Not till towards the end of the video when one finally dies to a shell that would've taken out a good shized chunk of city.
The interesting part is after finally getting the strum mouser I actually wanted to test this theory I would like to see more tests so that is to know the full extent with every battleship
Wow! Do they have that all wrong, first the minimum range of the storm tiger, and then its ability to hit a target as small as a ship. A town sized target half the time yes. In the war A unit of them moved to a perfect spot and fired at a bridge till they used up all their ammo then pulled back without once hitting or damaging the bridge. Lol
Graphics are cool but the howitzer would be childs play for most ships. Even a near miss would devastate the vehicles. The smaller ships are way to fast for the manually sighted land vehicles. These games have no sense for reality.
Silly since the crew had to leave the tank to fire the massive 380mm. It was designed to sink submarines, but loading was an issue....only about 18 were built.
It was a very entertaining video and that, in my opinion, justifies any upload. Good job on putting this together. I doubt, however, the outcome would have been the same in real life. lol
That kind of low velocity projectile the tanks are firing wouldn't penetrate anything... unless in real life it achieves a much greater velocity than what we are seeing depicted here?
