One thing to remind Loke, ,: As SG of DAP, U can " negotiate" but not " control" the members, whether junior or seniors.All R adults. As a minister of Govt. U cannot control or order other DAP ministers . Only the PM has the right. Watch you steps & stay in your position. Follow this Principle, thou shalt avoid being prosecuted or " find fault" by Opposition.Have your subordinates to serve the people well. Then Thou shalt be "The Suitable Representative" that people cannot desert ! Malaysian (all races) Malaysia. Xieh Xieh,.