Simon, my recent post was deleted and I don;t know why? I am a retired police officer in California and I do not agree on what you have said about the shooting in N Point which caused the death of an individual. Please understand police are not trained to be Kung Fu expert even with baton and shield . We can get hurt easily as any civilian. Our job is to stop any immediate threat to the public and to ourselves. Choices are limited if someone is swinging a knife and charging at us in a split second. Some are on drugs and do not feel pain. We are dealing with domestic violence almost every day and we cannot afford to get hurt by fighting the suspect constantly.