I was hoping u'll mention Tyrell because i'm riding a Tyrell FX. Strangely, nobody ever mentions Tyrell bikes..why is that so? By the way, Tern is a good brand. I've the entry level D8...and after 8000KM, it's still going strong and i still enjoy riding it. My friend has the P10 which I borrow often; the P10 is really a well made and refined bike. It's not crazy fast, but it's damn smooth and comfortable-- well worth the money.