@@mightytaco123 there’s *a* risk of damaging your opponent’s leg. Just like there’s a chance of injury with just about any throw. Flub an ura nage and you can kill someone. Sambists do flying leg scissor takedowns all the time.
@@Gauntlets If you can get the technique right, and destroy your opponent in a street fight, why not? You're not there to bake cakes. The time to consider injury/disability was moments before you agreed to fight. You accept a fight, you accept any and all possibilities including death, dismemberment, permanent injury/disability.
One of the best examples of this technique, I think, is in the older Kodokan video. If you watch that video, the Judoka uses the behind leg to actually sweep rather than placing then prying. Really amazing Judoka in those videos. I enjoy seeing this technique I find it very effective and beautiful. And I also 100% agree to the banning, it is very dangerous. I just hope people teach it though just still to preserve it in Judo.
Why does everyone think Kani Basami is dangerous? I've never found it dangerous, unless you let your leg slide down low around guy's knees. That possibility increases IF you put your hand on the mat, thus dropping your upper body. If you execute it up high, keeping your upper body up high, then there is no problem. The Judo Rule of having a hand on the mat creates the "dangerousness" IMO.
@@aspenrebel oui qd c'est bien fait mais en compétition en force et dans le feu de l'action parfois tu pètes les ligaments de ton adversaire. C'était ma spéciale en judo et la dernière fois que je l'ai passée en compèt dans les années 80 .... Crac !!!! Depuis j'ai arrêté même en MMA trop dangereuse
I agree with you! A technique very beautiful although banned of official judo competitions. In fact it's very dangerous, do it take very treining and if bad applicated injuring a lot the opponent. Here in Brasil martial sports like Capoeira use this attack too.
This move was banned for good reason. I taught this at a bjj class the other day and people joked about how this was banned in judo. When I was younger I would train this technique and do it in judo practice all the time. 10 years later I did it to a training partner in bjj and shattered his ankle. Plate, rods, pins, screws... and he never trained again. I can still demo this throw, but I don't ever do it.
@@antony2206 it's simple, when you're pulling your opponent down to the ground, your leg snaps into the crook of the knee. If you end up leaving your leg in this position while he squats down, he may sit on your leg, which will cause the knee to minimal dislocate or pop. Search some videos, you will see what os the problem with this technique, even when executed properly
@@7372diego thanks for information! I thought that it was only because you're pushing the knee in an opposite direction which cause it to snap, but it seems there's more reason than that.
@@antony2206 yes. Ocasionally there is a lever caused by the atacker's leg in the motion. There is multiple reasons, and naturally multiple results. ALL of them are of course bad. If you see some videos with these moves being apllied you will know exactly what i'm talking about
@LRK20 there is no way to defend or avoid this technique. From what I've learned, the only thing you can really do is try to predict the movement and get out of the attack zone. If your opponent can't catch your legs, he'll just fall to the ground with you on top of him. That's what I learned, but maybe someone has some defense I don't know about.
Beautiful technique. You can see how much judo has been reduced to training for competitions in the academies, many black belts who have never learned this type of technique simply because they cannot use it in competitions.
@@JudoImPott Why is it dangerous to the knees? It is only dangerous to opponent's knees IF you put your legs around his knees. So don't put your legs around his knees!! Duh!! Put your legs around him up higher!! Duh!!! His waist, belly, chest!!! Duh!!!! But the Rule that you have to have one hand on the mat when executing Kani Basami, lowers your upper body/chest/shoulders, so it also lowers your waist/hips, and thus lowers your legs. So then the "danger" that you might put your legs around his knees, and cause injury, comes into play. So don't do it that way!!! Duh!!!! When I execute Kani Basami, I grab him at the shoulder with one hand and jump in high at him, wrapping my legs around him up high!! So no risk to injuring his knees!!! Duh!!!!
All you have to do is watch yamashita fight where it goes wrong and you’ll understand why. One thing doing it on a Uki not resisting whole other dangerous ball game against a resisting opponent
@@benj7254 i agree. What i meant is that i never understood how dangerous it was before because, as you said, i have never done it in sport environment.
Its perfectly safe in controlled training, but in randori or competitio the risk of injury is too great. Most judo places train for the sport so you wont see banned techniques being practiced.
I am watching this video because I tore ankle ligaments because of this throw. Met another man who was in a knee brace today thanks to the same throw. It is a cool technique and definitely worth learning in a controlled setting for tradition and maybe self defense applications. If the opponent is resisting, it has the potential to cripple them.
The danger in this technique is actually the grab. If you do it perfectly at 90 degrees and with just one hand on your uke without pulling him towards the ground but just controlling, it’s fine. But if you are 45 degrees sideways with both hands on his judogi, his weight will be all on one leg, his foot stuck and once you sweep his knee will break for sure. In fact, in jujutsu they used to do it from the ground without grabbing and pulling.
This technique is omnipresent in capoeira. Even as i myself could recall couple of hard landings, no injuries were inflicted. No padding no springed mats!
I am watching this video because I tore ankle ligaments because of this throw. Met another man who was in a knee brace today thanks to the same throw. I agree that it is worth learning, but it can destroy someone's legs long term and should not be used in sport in my opinion.
Having overthinked the case, I'm inclined to recon that it is the specific entry into scissors in judo makes this throw so traumatic. The knees are folding forward, guided by total weight of the tori! In capoeira there is no hanging on opponent: overturning momentum is generated mainly by the upper leg, while the lower one just blocks the ankles.
Aren't Judo Tournament Rules that you have to have your left hand (in this video) on the mat to execute Kani Basami? Otherwise you get a penalty point. Ages ago, the only time I "threw" my Chief Judo Instructor, was when I circled to the outside, then jumped in on him high at his chest, and executed Kani Basami. With one hand grabbing his shoulder. He was very upset. I learned to do it that way, outside of Judo before I studied Judo. Also, the other instructor would always ask me to demonstrate another "takedown" which he couldn't do (I guess he didn't quite grasp it), which I learned from another source prior to studying Judo. This was all a long time ago.
Good Lord!!! I was doing this technique long before I studied Judo. Picked it up from Billy Blanks (as I recall). Find a video of him doing it, kick boxing I guess it was.
With a minor mistake this can cause serious injuries to the legs, knees and ankles of both contenders. In competition there is a flinch reflex that only makes things worse, so after some horrible accidents over the years this technique was banned from competitions (but it remains as part of judo's formal list of techniques)
Hi, i had the same doubt. Check this video, is a judo competition. I'm no expert but seems that the most critical injuries comes when you apply this sweep if your partner is very well based on the floor. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nMvgii1q3wk.html. Not American, Brazilian doing my best to write this 😅, hope this helps.
