as a jb人,我真的覺得jb的生活蠻舒服的,不會太擠。該有的東西又都有像mid valley,aeon tebrau,austin那些。想去海邊開個1小時的車就到desaru,想體驗大城市過條橋去sg就有了,看concert、搭飛機也靠近sg,不用跑到kl那麼遠。overall我覺得在johor生活也挺好的。但產業發展的部分我也是認同johor沒有一個明確的產業,人才不充足也是一個問題,除非msian都回來發展😂。
我Johor人,我个人会建议去KL和PN,Johor只适合你去新加坡工作,Johor并没有太多高薪的工作,而且这两年也越来越多MNC把这里的厂关了,或者缩小,例如Hitachi,Penasonic等,再来这里的物价比KL PN更高,这里的一切都是被炒起来了,同样的工作你来到JB这里多数只会给2,3k,但是去到KL你可以拿到4,5k都是有的,再来就是里面提到的Johor是房地产先行,但是其他产业并不特殊,所以产生很大的问题,很多马来人在网上都在complain说我们这里的屋子他们都买不起,因为这里的薪资比起KL,PN 实在低了不是一个档次,这里的屋子能买的要不就是你是生意人,要不就是你去新加坡工作。 再来也不要相信政府说他们要求新加坡外国企业进来投资给2/3新币的工作,或者是JB work get SGD,新加坡公司从上世纪70年代就很多老板进来JB开厂开公司了,但这么多年下来也不见得他们开的工资特别高或者是什么,的确是有在这里工作拿新币的,但那些基本都是新加坡人外派来这里工作才有的福利,本地人想要?用一句新加坡老一辈的人很喜欢说的(趴在那里等就有)。
我只能说现在johor遇到最大的问题,是没办法招工。也不是没办法招工,而是员工的薪资要求很高,如果太过于底,人家都跑去新加坡做工了。所以企业去johor寻找机会,现在最大开支就是薪水和消费也很高。而且data center其实很多人以为很高大尚的产业,但是很多人也没有了解,其实data center 里面所需要的员工是以unman working 来进行,很多都是maintenance人员,一座data center 需要的人员远远少于工厂所需,但是又占地大,消耗电能和水能源。前景我觉得penang是比较有机会,如果更加的完善设施和进行更深度和附近州属合作。
我非常同意Sean 的觀點,可能我们都是focus 在mont Kiara 的人 講到消費hobby,我就要shoot 那个YB, 她知不知道Klang valley 有不少过二三十个park 可以去hiking 的? 單是mountain bike parks 就要六七个了,Bukit Kiara 就是一个国際知名的bike park, 還有putrajaya challenge park 單是Klang valley 的公路cycling club 就有几十个了 別跟我說KL 只有shopping mall.... 講回吃的,我天天都在desa Sri hartamas 吃,雞飯8元,义燒燒肉雙抨9元,跟JB 有貴到那里?hello 是在mont Kiara 區不是在wangsa maju !
Born in Sitiawan, Raise in JB - Primary, Subang/KL- Secondary/Tertiary, Penang-Postgrad Now travels frequently between JB, Subang, Penang due to work and family. Btw have special feeling towards Sabah and Sarawak due to my 1st and 2nd job. My first car plate no. frm Sabah~ Love Malaysia~ Can never tell which is best, every place has a part of me in it. Cheers~
Johor比较集中发展都在JB。其它如麻坡,Kluang, Batu Pahat要找高薪可能比较困难。Klang Valley 就因为范围较大,不一定在KL市中心,在一些比较外围的地区还是有机会。我是土生土长的KL人,普通咖啡店还可以吃到RM6的鸡饭。当然比较旺的地区就RM7-8块。反而面食类这两三年贵了,都RM8起跳。RM6-7还是有的,但比较难找到。
3 seaports.. Tanjung Perlepas, Pasir Gudang and the new Tanjung Langsat. If Senai Airport expanded to accept more intl flights the picture would be very different.
Johor got 2 Port, Port tanjung pelepas 19th in the world, another port pasir gudang is the world's largest palm oil terminal, actually a lot people don't know also 😂pasir gudang industrial area actually is Malaysia largest industrial area 😅 Johor Bahru actually quite underrated, most of the reason is JB is not a tourist city compared with other cities in Malaysia.
Many data centres will be completed in the next few years and these facilities will consume a lot of water and power. What the state and federal governments are planning to prevent blackouts and water shortages once the data centres start operating?
if SEZ is aggressively developed with semi con industry, easily replace Penang FIZ and Bt Kawan. For Penang to maintain competitiveness, must not focus on low-value chain. Penang one not always better.
Hard, many MNC is start moving their factory from Johor to other state, as I know, Hitachi already closed their factory in Johor, and Panasonic in before factory has 3 round a day, now only one round, Mitsubishi also same, Dyson month ago I heard my friend who work inside said the management planning move to PN or Kedah, but after Minister of State know and visit them ask please don't move away, so now they postpone it, but future are still not sure.
When you have a SG beside and SG as a semicon powerhouse, you're not going to keep your talent. Aggressively up your salary then you're not competitive compare to Penang. I don't even think the IC design park in Puchong will do well let alone JB.