𝗙𝗜𝗡𝗔𝗟𝗟𝗬 Dragon Ball Super Ends The STRONGEST WARRIOR DEBATE... 

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The reality is, in Dragonball multiple main characters are topping/surpassing each other at certain point of the story.

Energy detection is something that requires concentration. Everyone was focusing on goku vs vegeta so they didnt pay attention to beast gohan

That Gohan got that strong in a few days makes his potential far less than Broly's as Broly got more powerful than the two Pure Bloods in under an hour.

I can’t wait for it to take about 3 and half years for this next arc play out 😭

Its really disrespectful how goku and vegeta were trying so hard non stop just to be surpassed by gohan with no real training. If gohan surpassed that is.

Gohans form looks like ultra instinct combined with ultra ego atleast visualy... BTW I would really love to see a fusion between Gohan and Broly someone like Groly to beat black frieza

Oh hell yea. My money is on Ultra Instinct Mastered Goku. I can’t wait to see this clash. Beast Gohan vs UIM Goku. Everything you said and regarding Goku’s in Vegito not being able to sense go hon, is accurate to a team. With evidence you provided as to why. Damn I can’t wait. Exceptionally damn good video m!!!

Beast gohan definitely isn’t the strongest. He’s probably above goku and Vegeta but not by much. Black Frieza would still one shot him and there’s no reason to believe Frieza stopped training after the granolah arc. Hopefully this is finally put to rest next chapter.

as far as im concerned, the peaking order is: black freiza tui goku ego vegeta granolah broly beast gohan orange piccolo gamma 2 17 buu

Crazy how gohan doing a basic few months of training or the absolute minimum, can catch up to people who have been training their entire life, or training with angels and gods.😂

No offense but I’m tired of people saying Gohan reached SSJB Level in days. Gohan has literally said He trains in the Gravity Room since RoF in the Manga and is seen Training with Piccolo before the Universe 6 Tournament. RoF takes place 2 years before the ToP mind you, So Gohan’s Potential isn’t that massive.

Gohan is the wild card of dragon ball

idk, I still feel that the Oracle Fish's prophecy is not about either of them. I do really think either probably foreseeing Goku's vast potential and finally entering the domain of the Gods forever not just for quite a while or probably Uub's existence in the verse because we already saw how he gave Goku a massive zenkai boost with that seemingly bottomless amount of God Ki he donated and he wasn't even exhausted in the process and mind you he's just around 6yrs old that time. I am kinda leaning into my own head canon/hypothesis that it might be Uub.

Why can't u all wait 2 more days for the full release of the manga ? But no, you have to f*ck everything up with the spoilers.

I have to completely disagree with the statement, Vegeta put some dents into super perfect cell because after vegeta went ballistic on cell he jumped out of the smoke and wasnt visibly damaged at all.

Tier 1- Beerus Tier 2- black frieza Tier 3- Ue and Ui Tier 4- Fp broly Tier 5- Beast gohan Tier 6- Cell max Tier 7- Orange piccolo(Not on ue and uis level) Tier 8- gammas

Vegeta didn’t put a scratch on Cell whatsoever he just surprised him. Then cell put him down

They depowered manga Gohan a bit imo. In the movie he busted through Cell Max's final attack with minimal effort. In the manga they were evenly matched in attacks until Goten and Trunks kicked away the hand Cell Max was using to push the attack.

Don't forget akira forgot that ssj3 was the long hair and ssj2 as the long hair so we can't be sure

Ngl gang I don’t even care who wins I’m just glad gohan can compete 💀 he really is the definition of: run me my shit 😂

HEY! Do you think silver hair ui goku could have beaten Lss broly in the movie ? super saiyan god goku is stronger than vegeto super saiyan, meaning Fusion ss

Gohon been confirmed to be the strongest since he was born

Ya'll woulda never imagined anyone one shotting ultra goku and vegeta at the same time besides beerus so aafe to assume frieza is at least in the same ball park. Gohan cant be that strong cus there'd be no threat.

Gohan have problems against a weakened Cell max, while Cell max is weaker than Broly, who was suprased by Goku and Vegeta, as easy as that

I want them to put a multiplier on super saiyan god so badly man. It would make everything so much easier for me.

I think the current power scale goes like this S: Beerus, Blue Fusions, Beast Gohan, Black Frieza, Full Power Cell Max A: Full Power Broly, Incomplete Cell Max B: UI Goku, UE Vegeta, Orange Piccolo C: SSBE Vegeta D: Ultimate Gohan, Gammas, Blue Goku&Vegeta F: Ultimate Piccolo, SSG Goku& Vegeta, SSJ Gohan In this scale a two tier difference equals a no diff slam for the higher character. Ex: Black Frieza no diffs UI and UE and Orange Piccolo no diffs Gamma 2

EY I found someone who watches the show

Oh, jezzuz dude. Gohan is simply the strongest. Toriyama knows how strong Goku and Vegeta are. Juxtaposing fans assumptions with a flat "Gohan is the top of the pecking order claim." Simply makes him the strongest. Where the story goes from this point is how the validity of the claim gets refuted. Not by adding extra parameters to the claim of the author of who they designate to be the strongest in their story/universe.

I feel gohan could learn other ppl moves like he did with piccolo special beam cannon

Bro ima db fan and you makin us look bad. Bro does not read at all ☠️ goku litteraly said he was fighting vegeta and was focused on him that’s why he couldn’t sense gohan before. Bro come on man

#MahinBird how you say Piccolo has not saw Goku since Broly if they help with the final fight against Moro and his men like O.G 73 so they had to see that fight as well not Vegetas U.E form but Goku using M.U.I from learning it with Merus I'm Just Saiyan HGD ✌️

you putting any stock into power levels now is beyond pointless. A reused form with a reused scene gets the unexplained push to beyond Angel form? lol mmmkay

Personally I don't believe Gohan is stronger than goku, vageta and broly. Some of the statements made for the super heros was just to hype it up. Saying Gohan is the strongest/ strongest battle ever then say cell max is weaker than broly is a contradiction. Then piccolo comparing goku and vageta's to the gammas but yet he can't sense god ki. Gohans only feat was beating someone weaker than broly whereas broly is stronger than a ssj gogeta but weaker than ssb gogeta (at the time of the movie. Broly is stronger now) , goku and vageta is weaker than gas who aside from frieza and gods was the strongest in the universe.

my scaling for super hero characters comes like this : the gammas are super saiyan blue level (broly movie) orange piccolo is mui t.o.p or it a little bit stronger beast gohan is moro 73 level or a bit stronger below this is a lowball above this is a hyperbole what you think ?

Well, Frieza Black powered up to spar with Goku and Vegeta... was Frieza's power felt as far as Gas' planet, earth or Beerus' planet?

Dr hedo will make so cell max perfect or Gamma cell

Yall tripping... Forgetting the fact that they've held broly back forever now.. hes made 2 ssjb and a golden frieza run for there lifes.. and holding his own cs gogeta blue.. brolly will pass them all again

Where are the toxic Gohan haters

So wait Gohan Beast is weaker than Moro 73 pre Merus?

They're not even gonna end up fighting lmao

I'll take the list like this Z: Beerus S+: Fusions, Gohan Beast, Black Freeza S: UI Goku, UE Vegeta, OP, Broly, Cell Max A: Gammas, blue Goku and Vegeta, Gas, Granolah

manga goku said it himself "UI has no weaknesses I just need more training". So even if his foe is stronger he'd win by virtue of dodging everything

Db is the only show that fans say no to the creator Akira:gohan is the atrongest z warrior Fans:no goku solos Akira:perfect cell max would take broly Fans:no goku solos Akira:Broly surpass goku and vegeta Fans:no goku solos

goku’s dad strength fucks gohan up

Gohan Beast should be above MUI Goku from thr TOP Arc but thats about it. And a lot stronger than SSB Goku and Vegeta from the Broly Movie. But still weaker thab Ultra FP Jiren from the anime and SSB Gogeta from the Broly Movie. Also a lot slower than MUI Goku from the TOP arc let alone the Granola and Moro arc xd.

Gohan beast > cell max>>> black freezer >>>>true u.i goku= u.e vegeta = piccolo orange

Black frieza>>>>>>>gohan beast>broly> tui goku> ue vegeta>cell max> orange piccolo

the reason goku and vegeta couldnt sense beast gohan and cell max cuz they were fighting , beerus and whis were asleep and reserection F goku had to foucus so hard to sense gohan to teleport there i give this fight to gohan cuz you see the only thing cell max laked to become perfect was mind not strength dr hedo said that there for in pure strength he is around brolys level and beast gohan displayed way more domination in this fight than ssb gogeta vs broly , so gohan is stronger than ssb gogeta and he will give goku and vegeta the black frieza treatment

Anime cell max is INSANELY WEAKER THEN MANGA CELL MAX in the manga gohan was having a hard time with cell max and the anime one gohan was not so gohan is weaker then mui goku

Goku > Memehan Blanco

Lets be hinest beast gohon is ugly bring back mystic

Dude he can not beat black frieza

Will make dr hedo cell max him or hot Again

Cell max will come back or not

I said this once in the server (cough SHAMELESS PLUG TO YOUR SERVER), it happened once with the Broly movie. Promotional material was claiming that Gogeta is stronger than Vegito. Although it may be true in a timekine standpoint where Broly arc Gogeta is stronger than a Zamasu arc Vegito, it may be implied that a Broly arc Vegito loses to a Gogeta which power wise, it's incorrect. So promotional material saying that Gohan is the strongest warrior or it's the strongest battle in all of history, this is probably Dragon Ball going through the loop of hype and it's probably not even THAT big of a deal. Piccolo also makes a lot of calls in the movie. Guessing that the Gammas are stronger than Goku and Vegeta and that Cell Max could defeat Goku and Vegeta even if they go all out. But the problem here is that Piccolo can't sense God Ki, so he can only put a possibility, but not a define answer. Unless I skipped over something that now lets Piccolo sense that sort of Ki. I think we need another year of chapter releases then we'll have a bit of more concrete answer on how strong Gohan is. Except we still gotta put an asterisk in a lot of things cause although it's stated that Superhero takes place after Granolah arc, there's still two continuities and Gohan is implied to be on par in the manga with Cell Max while Gohan dominates in the movie. So we need more context on both medias. After we get through Total Dragonrama. I feel like I reached a bit too far, I lost myself at the end. 🪦

GOKU FUCKING BEATS GOHAN

oh bro I've been debating so many many people on this topic and oh boy they all were like your opinion doesn't matter and toriyama soad it so its official and they realy forgot how much of a troll toriyama is the guy forget so much thinghs from his own series like lunch or super saiyan and his statements are mostly inconsistent back when battle of gods was released toriyama simple power scale was goku is a 6 beerus is 10 and whis is 15 and goku grew thousands to millions of times stronger shouldn't he be a 10 now or a 12 and the second statement its says "beast gohan is stronger than anyone or so its sad" implying either its not toriyama or it wasnt his idea to make him the strongest and another thing gohan didn't become god level in days it took him a year he was training since the goku black arc and there's a year of time skip between it and the t.o.p but we were just shown a littel footage of it and look lets put all statements behind lets just use commun sense when was the last time we saw gohan active during the moro arc right he was at his peak then and didnt slack on his training and he was litterlay unable of even seeing ui sign goku moving and now skip to the super hero arc which is at least 2 years later and we can judje by pan's age she was 1 year old at the end of the moro arc and she's 3 years old in the movie and and we didnt saw gohan do any effort for yhe whole granola arc he said he was training in secret of he was then how wasnt he able to lift the clothes he was wearing in the cell games and why he needed to see pan in danger and most important how the hell he couldnt since piccolo's ki even pan could is this gohan after training for 2 years ? yeah good joke and then he get a form out no where without any foreshadowing and boom now he can 2 shot the form he wasnt even able to see and also goku got even stronger since the moro arc how does this male sense for god sake ? If try to use moments like against freiza and raditz as an auregment they all were momentarily just like the my bulma scene for vegeta and dont even try to comapre it to super saiyan 2 gohan trained a year straight to master super saiyan and super saiyan 2 was foreshadowed unlike this goofy Christmas tree looking form in conclusion i always wanted gohan and piccolo to get their own arc but not like this not to make the levwls that hard even gods themselves look children's play for them and now gohan can spam this and use it on mere humman what hell is worng with toei and akira respect my brian as a fan god damn it ☠️

To go from needing help w dyspo to that idc who stronger gohan been on good shit lately. I like manga gohan that tied w kefla in the t.o.p better... i liked gas better than cell max as a villain but hated goku and vegeta had the arc to themselves so wasnt too hyped about that arc or broly.... Why they had to make cell max big i wanted good hands being thrown 🤦‍♂️😒

Didn´t Gohan Beast almost lost to Cell Max while needing a ton of suport in the manga. So Broly>Cell Max>Gohan>Sssj blue Goku and Vegeta. And Moro is above Broly.

Pretty sure Superhero happened shortly after the Granohla arc. Either around the same time or within months after. It would explain why no one had seen Goku or Vegeta for some time as they were training on Beerus’s planet both before and after the Granohla arc. The tier probably looks like this 1: Whis 2:Beerus 3: Gohan (or Frieza) 4: Frieza (or Gohan) 5: Full Power Broly 6: Cell Max 7 Goku/Vegeta 8: Piccolo 9: Gammas Gohan has always been able to do less than Goku or Vegeta and achieve more. Just like Frieza and now Broly. Those three survive off of straight talent. Goku and Vegeta are just power hungry martial arts geniuses. They aren’t necessarily gifted power wise. Piccolo is just as gifted martial arts wise… he’s just not a saiyan.

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