🇪🇪 Commentators Try to Pronounce "(nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi" (Semi-Final 2) 

Italy?

Wasn't THAT bad from Rylan in the semi. Graham Norton in the final didn't even try 😂

We usually have a break down trying to say English Words with more than four syllables, let alone a non-english one

That‘s because they‘re bad at it and they‘re very conscious about it lmao

Polish said that he is not even going to try to pronounce it

​@Kuzyn Our "new old" commentator sucks. He always sounds like he hates ESC and they force him to do the job. I understand the changes in our public TV, but why they didn't give a chance to some young person, who actually enjoys Eurovision

haha yes :D

Being realistic about own abilities is ok. Less fun. But ok. 🙌

yeah :D but atleast he knew how to say the name of the artist

That's lovely 😂

why did he mention Ed sheeran?

​@blahajblahajblahaj3 He said that the Duo "Puuluup" combines traditional instruments with loop stations like Ed-Sheeran does. I dont know if that's correct, but that's exactly what he said.

​@@ludwigstoer3040that is the best compliment ever. Comparing Puuluup with Ed Sheeran 😅 we'll take it. And Puulup does use looper in their music. Also respect the effort on pronouncing as correctly as possible. Our own local "russianspeaking estonians" didn't bother 😢.

@@emokter8577 Nothing new 😂 They don't bother learning Estonian

I was so disappointed that he didn't even try hahaha

Not at the final they just gave up can’t blame ´em , English words are still hard for him to spell 😂

​​​​​@@ravenskin2806giving up is sometimes smartest thing to do. They are grownups, from Malta (not forgetting that 😅) who assessed their abilities realistically. No problem. I feel way more embarassed for local "russianspeaking estonians" who have been living here the whole life, working in state owned organization, where there should be some language requirements, and still can't manage reading the estonian text from the buffer. Not to mention, how come haven't they heard of that song before? It is literally impossible avoid it here. Such a shame.

Malta doesnt have any commentary for Eurovision :))

​@@escthingszyeah this actually bothers me, how can Malta have no commentators

for the swiss he say "minus qui est un" and not minuskja

Estonia: May we introduce you to the letter Õ

@@itst2t2 maybe next year

@@itst2t2 Oh please do 😅 Greetings from a Finn 😉

​@@itst2t2 We're so lucky Hungary is not in anymore. Their alphabet has even more strange stuff.

@@itst2t2 Next song "Õueaiaäär"

Our bad 😔

Sorry, there was a lot to go through and wasn't always clear when a word ends (esp in foreign language)

Agahahahaha

And thats false info because puuluup is the folk duo:)

He was very proud that he's able to say it quite well and he said it again after the performance both times

It's easier when you have ü in your own alphabet, too 😋

​@@uztre6789 yeah together with the semi final, after the third time i stopped counting how often Thorsten said this title😅

Finnish and Estonian are basically same language

Silvennoinen lives in Estonia and he works there off-eurovision-season

Yup, I chuckled hearing that one 😂

hahds dá-me gaysss

languages that are rational with how they pronounce words 🤝

or rather Italian as well as Estonian has consistent spelling rules, unlike English. The tricky part for foreigners who don't know any italian would be letters changing their sounds depending on which letters follow. Estonian doesn't have that so the same mistake could happen with Italians trying to pronounce Estonian. Anyway, it's not "cinque minuti", the name translated into english would be "5 of minus", named after a basketball game.

That's correct

Also in Finnish, words written excatly as they are said :)

I think most European languages are more or less written as said. Some have few well defined exceptions. But in English and French natives must learn all words twice, first to speak, then to spell. Over-representation of English in media makes us think that this is some common thing, but it's not. Also, in English they use so many phonemes that they have lost ability to pronounce vowels clearly. Asking them to say loudly word like "veoauto" would be murder attempt.

same :D

Ma õppin eesti keelt ülikoolis and I cringed so hard when my local commentator tried to say the title xD

Sama siin, samas mõned ütlesid päris ilusti. 😅😊

I like the veil of mystery that surrounds our language due to its infrequency.

I love your language :)

lmao, they are not wrong though 😆

we are more north than them hmp!

@@VeryRedFoxtrue

Estonia used to be partially Danish lmao

@@GoatPierrot but we were the first tax collectors on the Baltic Sea! (Saaremaa pirates)

Latvians could also be exposed to Estonian language, being neighbours and all. All Baltic people get subconcious language learning lessons through triple-labelled procucts in Rimi.

@@HoggyMayhem This is true when you get same products in all three countries.

Would ü have a double-o sound (or an ooh sound) if I try to say küll as an English speaker? Narkootikumidest was the part of the title I found hardest to say when I first heard this song but I feel pretty confident after breaking down the syllables before trying to put everything back together for the whole word! Trying to learn Norwegian at the moment is helping me in trying to understand characters that don't show up too much in the English language 🙂

@@EurEvansIsh closest thing to that sound you've got to work with in English is the beginning of the vowel in the word "cute".

​@@SuperStreetWarriorNot the same

Damn I could have sworn he said it LOL

Es hätte mich wirklich gewundert, dich hier nicht zu finden

@@nele6442 :)

estoners gang 🫡

@@deprivalli 🫡

Also fünf Minuten 😁

We were watching the dual audio channel in Catalan and the commentator there did a good job with the title during the postcard!

But they said it, I remember

They said it at the final of the performance

A+ is probably reserved for the perfects, but plenty of As to go around

They did pretty well. The only easy thing about Estonian is the straightforward pronounciation.

thank you for clarifying !!! i was also wondering about ‘midagi’ because it was pronounced both ways and both were labelled as correct. good to know :)

It is because Estonian language is not pronounced like the letters is defined in the alphabet. Like in the mentioned word "midagi" there is the letter "d" which is pronounced in some words like "t" but also like "th", "tt", "it" in some other words. So the "mispronunciation" comes from the fact that we do not use letters like they are defined in the alphabet. I can show some words and then their pronunciation using letters as I think defined in the alphabet midagi : mitaaki olnud : olnth/olt/olnth näinud : näinth/näint andnud : annuth/annut nüüd : nüüit/nüit/nütt kolmkümmend : kollkennt mõtlesin : möttlesin/möttsin nii et : niett/nieth taldrik : tallrekk/talltrekk kahvel : kaffel/kaffäl pühapäev : pöhäppääv kõik : keikk kohv : koff number : nummer/nummär hotell : otteill hea : ea/eä/hää/hja Tallinna : Taillinna/Tailna Tartu : Tartto praegu : prääko So as there no Estonian IPA dictionary foreigners will always "mispronounce" words unless they hear how words are pronounced by a native speaker

Oh man, I was about to flex with the same comment. It's so rare that us Finno-Ugric people get to do that!

But they didn't have the finnish language commentator, it was in swedish and sami. We got it commentated on three languages, pick your favorite😆

@@myslithecat Yes, but both Sami and Swedish speakers speak also Finnish in Finland and know how to pronounce Finnish and that helps with Estonian.

Why the Uralic guys were allowed to enter Europe??

@@katriperttuli427 Finnish commentator said it right too, that was missing from the video.

Was it in finals? This video is only based on semis, but if there's good material might also do a finals cut

clip?

@@itst2t2 oh, so that's it. Yeah, it was in the finals ahahah

@@itst2t2 so... I listened to the clip, and I was misremembering what was so funny about it. What was funny about it is that our two commentators are very different: one tried to keep it all very PG-13 whilst explaining the meaning of it, and the other straight goes "yeah... they talk about drugs!"

I think the Finnish speaking Finnish commentator didn't even say it. Sámi and Swedish were good tho 👍

And the Poles itself say that thier own language is TOO Complicated

@@Jodrik713 estonian has been said to be one of the harder ones as well.

Why was he even hired. It’s so unprofessional 💀

​​He is the eurovision commentator for over 20 years. In Poland he is like a synonym of esc. He's not unprofesional, just really chill and with specific sense of humour. @@oroontheheels

@@carol5308 we had same commentators for ESC in Russia for 10-15 years too. They were horribly bigoted. Just because person is returning to the same job doesn’t mean they are best for it. Refusing to pronounce song name is not funny or childish, In my opinion. 🤷🏻‍♀️

And it probably wasn't 😂 As they got into the final as well...

And he actually didn't as during the final he stayed silent during their introduction

Generally works, although as an english speaker its kinda hard to not combine certain vowel pairs (the urge to say tea as tee and not te-ya), also I only knew about the double vowels from trying to learn the chorus to Cha Cha Cha

they said it after the song

@@H3patitisB oh guess i wasn't paying attention after the song had happened lol

Russianspeaking estonian commentators could not read the title correctly. It is a shame.

For a song title its fairly important to order it correct, even if you still make sense. That said you can find the song with just Nendest so probably not a big issue

@@emokter8577 russian language media in Baltics being dismissive of local languages is expected. Note that nobody else tried to paraphrase or change words, but russians feel like they NEED to put Estonian below themselves. It's always like that.

@@KasumiRINA I think the Russian-speaking commentator has heard the name of this song so often lately that he just decided to pronounce it from memory. There were no serious mistakes that way.

Какая ненависть просто к обычным русскоговорящим эстонским комментаторам, которые я уверена, скорее всего даже не имеют никакого отношения к россиянам 🤣

I... would not say Finnish is an easy language to pronounce. It's all subjective and can be learned of course, but as a Dutchwoman it's highly confusing to see the difference in pronunciation of letters, not to mention the highly illegal dosage of umlauts :p. Plus, not many languages have stupidly long words.

Easy for you

@@ShaCaro: Really? Finnish pronunciation is quite easy to remember: 1) The first syllable is mildly more stressed than others. 2) Every letter only has one pronunciation with Y being /y/, J being /j/, Ä being /æ/, Ö being /ø/ and the S being slightly more backwards towards a SH sound. 3) Doubled consonants and doubled vowels are read twice as long.

​@@ShaCaro as a Greek, I find Finnish easy to pronounce

agree 💯 🇪🇪

@skye1013 it was so fun. We had a Eurovision night, with projector food and drink, never normally watch. Voted for them too. Decided we're going to visit there in a few years

Yeah I remember, they pronounced it like the fruit 🥭. I believe it’s M(ei)n(j)o.

My commentator said Nutša Buzaladže for some reason

Fellow Aussie here, Joel and Myf are fun but they just can’t handle the languages like Julia Zamiro back when she commentated it. 😅

​@@fional4696SBS are supposed to be the multilingual network. You'd think they'd have someone similar to Julia Zamiro to host the Aussie broadcast.

@@msyoungau yes, I agree! SBS historically have usually been very good at having multilingual presenters.

Come on, he did great. And even 5miinust and Puulup don't pronounce this title anywhere in the song 😉

This was Russian living in Estonia.

Yeah 🎉

he said "hip-hop", not "kpop"