I just bought the fp30x because of you stu. It's my first "real" piano and I'm loving it! I came from an alesis recital semi weighted electric piano. Massive difference! I cared more about the action because my ears are still not good enough to notice the nuances like how you do. Also, anything in this price range will have better sound anyway. But just hearing the fp30x with the just internal speakers is already really good! It resonates with me. I like a little woofy with my piano. I like to feel it when I bang on the bass especially on climaxes of the pieces I play. I think they fixed the clicky sound a lot of people complain about the fp30. It feels sooooo solid compared to my old one. Keep up the great work Stu!
The Alesis Recital sounded like ass to me when I tried one in person. Terrible action, too. Any Roland is a big improvement. Nuances and fidelity are mostly through line-outs rather than the shoddy built-in speakers on either. You'll want good external speakers to get your money's worth out of the sound, like Adam T7vs or Yamaha HS5s, or headphones like the AKG K553 or Shure SRH840.
@@JAnx01 FP30X muddy? Through the line-outs and headphone jacks? It holds its own against popular piano VSTs here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rRuo-QX6_lY.html It needs a little EQ, though, as Roland tuned it a bit odd and rather bright. Nevertheless, badass quality for the money, and it isn't even the best in its product line.
I should be practising. Once again I am absorbed by Stu's presentation. Always something new for me. Last time it was half-pedalling - yes I am using it on broken chords. This time the explanation of the mid-range adjustment and the professional explanation of the usage of extras that defines what will best suit oneself.
Thanks, Stu, great comparison video. I thought Roland would eat Casio for breakfast but I must confess Casio kept up pretty well. But I think Roland still has the edge in almost every sense, especially when you hook it to a tablet.
I was surprised Casio held up this well considering every video I've seen so far really confirmed the Roland is by far the best one for me, but then I checked and the Casio is ~35% more expensive (at least here where I live) so yeah, Roland still wins.
Sorry to mention this, but only the PX-s1000 comes in. Color options red and white. The PX-s3000 only comes in black. I love mine. Actually returned the Roland for the Casio about a month before this video. Glad I did.
Far and away the best keyboard review I've ever viewed. And I like "chocolatey" for the Casio 3000, which I own and have been trying to figure out. Terrific and so useful.
Fantastic review my friend. You are very knowledgeable and really good at explaining things. That said, you helped this songwriter to make a good decision. I'm going with the Casio for it's more sounds. I was also impressed with the Casio piano sounds at this price point. Thanks
I also went with the piano after trying at a store. I feel in love with the Casio's action and sheer number of features. Also, the Casio's modern and compact design really caught my eye. Very happy with the Casio
Your sound engineer is excellent. I think these digitals absolutely have to be "tuned to the room" not in terms of pitch, but in terms of presence in the room. I personally prefer the lower end of the Casio. While you don't demonstrate it much, I believe the Casio may be the more versatile of the two in terms of auto accompaniment. It's good you pointed out the compression in the sound of the Casio. With my Pianoteq set up, I can play gorgeous soft notes that are virtually mind blowing. I've always felt the new Casios would work very well in top drawer restaurants if any are hiring pianists any longer. I owned three different Rhodes pianos. The best one had felt hammers and aluminum tone bars. It was in a very spacey roundish fiberglass cabinet. I kind of wish I had kept it, although these modern synth-pianos have eclipsed it. I don't care for the so called Rhodes sound on the Roland. One thing you get with the Yamaha DGX is and absolutely authentic DX-7 sound. I don't care for sallow dip if that's what the issue is with the Casio. You point that you have to adopt to the instrument is extremely valid. I called the Kawai es920 "vanilla". One thing I like about the DGX is the voices have character. The acoustic guitar on the DGX is much better than the Casio, but the tone of the Casio is excellent. You need to do an automation show down between the Casio 3000 and the new Yamaha DGX.
Thanks for the great comparison video. I have the Casio and no complaints. Added bonus is that using it with Logic Pro is great....Logic seems to love this keyboard.
Your videos on the DPs in this broad feature/price range have been so valuable, thank you. I’ve watched a dozen comparing the Y/C/R etc getting ready to buy my first digital piano (amongst dozens of synths). Got my chance today for a hands-on and between that and these recent reviews, my decision to choose the PX-S3000 was made easier. These reviews really help nail down what to look and listen for, but hearing in person and hands-on with the key action is the necessary subjective step. Subscribed because I really enjoy the information and style!
Thank u for the nice review. Stuggling for a while between those two has now an end. Going to get the fp30x. I like the way u combine your personal feelings and the dry but important fakts. in my early teenage days i played the organ for about 10 years. Now , 20 years later i want to learn to play the Piano. So I´m confident to get the right Instrument to get started.....
I replaced/upgraded my old baby Grand with pxs1000 , a perfect fit....and the rear facing speakers made my "Liberace" piano even more astonishing 👍👍👍😊😊😊
Great video as always! I just purchased a Roland FP30X based on your past videos :) I was curious about the actual number of onboard sounds on the Roland. It would really help to have a video explaining the difference between native onboard sounds (the FP30X has 56 of them) vs. available midi sounds, not just for the Roland but in general. Thank you !
Great review as usual Stu. I was a little distracted by noticing that the pianos are at different heights, I.e. different hand positions… the mix of your playing ability and textured understanding of sound and action is amazing. Thank you!
Great observation!. I decided on the Px S3100 for the height(4" compared to 6"). I love the roland but it was too high for me to play. When i lowered the stand it hit my knees.
Enjoy your reviews. The specs for a pxs3000 on speakers on Sweetwater in the US is listed as 2 x 8 watts. It may not be 16 watts a side as specified in this video. In the U.S. it appears to be selling for $100 more than the fp30x.
I have the Casio and had to look that up on Casio’s site and yes it is 8 X 8, but it sounds fantastic and for the most part loud enough for the home. I had to take a double take on that. No biggie!
That comparison is exactly what I need/want!! There is a FP30 vs ES110 but the sound in the 30x is completely improved, and I don't think the sound for the FP30 in that video was done justice. It was a lot more cloudy than recordings of the FP30 in other videos.
Same here! For key action and piano sample quality I believe these two are the best under 1000! The ES110's speakers are not as good as the FP30X, however with headphones I really liked the tone of the kawai and the action is great.
Yes, please! Been watching review on thepianoforever, he said that roland fp30x was not as responsive as es110, not suitable for intermediate pianist and above, which really disappoint me! (Since I had been eyeing the 30x for a while now)
love this video. great job with the review. for some strange reason, the casio is a lot more expensive where I come from. So i bought the Roland! no regrets!
What an amazing musicality! Do you have your performance channel or album? I would love to be your audience! Otherwise, I will have to visit here and listen to tiny pieces of your music. Your reviews are so insightful as well!
Ok I use to have the pxs3000. And now I got the Fp30x. The Roland has fuller and warmer piano tones. The Casio piano is Thinner to my ear. The other sounds on the Roland are Professionaly graded. Not so the pxs3000. So the casio have more sounds (700) but semiproffesional and the Roland has only 56 but professional grade sounds. And for closer the Roland got Audio interface built in what blows out of the way the casio out of the water. So : pianos : Roland > Casio. sound amount Casio > Roland. Sound Quality Roland > Casio. Features. Casio - pitch bend and 2 mode wheels . Roland - audio interface. My choice and my clear winner is the Roland.
Thanks for tuning in and sharing your very detailed breakdown between these two instruments! While personal preference will always come into play, these are slightly different offerings and each model will be aligned for a certain type of player. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
Casio piano tone has a kinda signatured haziness regardless of the model tag, top GP series aside. The event is similar to 90's Korg ai2 synthesizer piano tone,. When you hear it, you'll immediately know what it is... I do not like the haziness on the sound, that's why I have not bought a Casio piano to date. I appreciate and respect what they have been doing since the first PX-100 Privia was introduced in 2003 at their digital piano section and hope to see better Casio products which sound as clear as Roland and am willing to pay a little bit extra for that since nothing is free of charge these days...
Would love to see your sound editing preferences on the Roland (assuming through the Piano Designer app). Haven't dug into piano designer on my FP-30X yet.
Hi there! Thanks for the suggestion! The PXS3000 has been updated with the new PXS3100 model. We will certainly do our best to tackle a comparison between it and the ES120 for you. :)
At last, I tried the FP30X today. The sounds were fair, and of course the electric pianos and organs are good. The action is much better than average for this price point, though it's partly subjective of course. I didn't like the controls much and struggled to get the touch curve right. Seems the default is excessively responsive, even jerky. I'm beginning to revise my values. There's not much point in adding lots of extras until the action is reasonably good. So well done Roland. The sound did pretty well through the modest speakers despite my initial misgiving, so maybe Roland is getting it's priorities right. I was also impressed by the RP701, which I saw at the same time.
The casing of a $300 baby Grand + pxs1000 can achieve amazing results ! The problem with DP is the speaker system, Stu uses output/phone jack to produce higher quality sound...
What I want, is just the guts of the Roland KF-10 to adapt to the case of a grand. I'm wonder it you can order replacement parts from Roland? If you can it would be fantastic, because I believe even the pedal system is wireless. Modeling seems to be where it's at with acoustic piano realism. While the KF-10 is tone limited, I believe the tones it has are excellent.
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Good Rhodes sounds on the 3000? Thank you. Greetings from Madrid.
These are both excellent pianos. In this price range you're making trade-offs between features so it's all about what you value personally; for some it will be the action, for others the screen, for others the fact that you can use batteries, etc). I was well aware of the different action on the Casio but ended up buying it anyway as I so value the other features it offers and have no regrets---as he says here, you do just get used to the action if you're playing it with any regularity.
I also went with the Casio after trying out both at the store. I feel in love with the Casio's action and the exaggerated texture on the keys, which reminded me of my old upright acoustic piano. Did you get a chance to try out both the roland and casio at the store?
@@terencebaotran wow...here's a delayed response. I was able to get my hands on the Yamaha P125, Roland FP-30 (at the time), and Kawai ES110 at various times during my research. I would say I liked the feel of the Kawai the best (action), liked the Roland as the one I felt I would have bought without other constraints, but in the end none of those pianos had the additional features buried in the Casio which I value so much----most notably the extended sound pallette and screen. Plus it's as light as I'm getting so very easy to drag around as needed, and can even power if off AA batteries in a pinch. Very versatile little beast for the price.
@@DMcC That’s how I ended up with an entry level Casio CDP S110. I wanted something “light”, operates on batteries….However, now, I’m no longer happy with the sound. Think I’ve become accustomed to the sound of the upright acoustic that I have my lessons on!!
Casio is way better than Roland in this comparison video as an acoustic piano. I have a preference for a high end acoustic grand piano sound and Casio excels at that. As a matter of fact from the sound alone I would not be able to easily distinguish between Casio PS-X3000 and an acoustic grand concert piano, while with Roland V-shaped sound I definitely could. By the same token, Roland FP-30X sounds so much more convincingly as an electric organ to accompany a rock band or even an ice hockey game!
I wish I could afford the guy to play at my dining table! XD Roland uses more of a Hi-Fi tone, which I tend to mimic on the Casio with my 7 band eq. Reducing the mids will reduce the volume quite a bit at lower key presses.
Wow, its hard to believe that the casio has overtaken the roland in terms of piano tone and sheer number of features. Because of this review and after trying both at a Guitar Center, I went with the casio and I'm very happy with it. The more inexperienced a person is at piano (or any other product), the more they will defer to brand name recognition rather than the actual quality and features of the product. Companies know this and will "cash in" on their brand reputation by just doing the bare minimum for a certain price range. The comparison between the roland and casio is a great example of this. Thank you Stu for really high lighting and truthfully compare and contrast the pros and cons of these two pianos using all of your expertise and experience.
The short key pivot on the Casio makes playing inward on the keys feel heavy and the texture is very different. Certainly one of those keyboards you want to try in person. Very different from my older Casio Privia.
Now that's a comparison review! Appreciate the depth and both seem nice. But I gather that the less you gig -> Roland. The more you value acoustic piano-like sound, action and experience -> Roland. The more you gig and/or value the other effects, bells and whistles -> Casio.
Hallo Stud, my opinion is that this comparison put Roland fp30x as the winning side. The quality of classic piano sound is without doubt higher in the Roland for its marvellous nuances. And however even if the sound reflects the personal taste of everybody, I think that the strong point of fp30x be the mechanic of keyboard and the ivory feel touch in the keys!! Both of these aren't in no other digital piano, in its price range and higher, at least!!!! What do you think about, please? Thanks
@@محمدالخلفي-ط1ل I went with the Casio. The sheer number of features and the action of the Casio really sold me after trying both out at Guitar Center.
I would like to know which digital piano to play live, put 5 models in order to buy which would be the best. I currently have .DGX 640. I WANT TO CHANGE WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AND CASIO PRIVIA PX S5S / PRIVIA S3000 YAMAHA P 125 KURZUEIL KURZUEIL KA 120 ROLAND FP60X WHICH IS THE BEST AMONG THEM IN A PROFESSIONAL INTERNSHIP
Keep doing what you are doing man. I've watch some "similar" channels but prefer your content since you don't get into the pretentious know-it-all attitude. 👏
I am going to try this conversion on my old upright wuliizer as well, but I like my old Acrosonic by Baldwin (my Liberace Grand was made by Baldwin as well )...
FP30X has strong treble boost. I would EQ it down in post if I used it for a track. Awesome sound otherwise, and then I'd give the Casio a little treble boost if I used that instead. The Casio sounds ugly when you strike the keys hard, so I would be motivated to avoid playing ff.
The Casio is way more pleasant to listen to. The cutting sound of the Roland is harsh on the ears. It's much more apparent when it is played right after hearing the Casio.
Ciao Stu, sono riuscito ha provare questi due pianoforti side by side. La dinamica di Roland è impressionante, la velocità della tastiera di Casio e la sua reattività sono eccezionali. Non ho notato differenze di peso tra il tasto bianco e nero. L'altra differenza riguarda il posizionamento degli speaker. Quelli di Roland sono sotto, quelli di Casio sono posteriormente A proposito, quando ulilizzi la line out con quali speaker li colleghi durante la prova? Devo posizionare il piano digitale su un scrivania accanto alla mia tastiera arranger e non so che soluzione trovare. Penso che qualsiasi pianoforte digitale posizionato su una scrivania con gli speaker rivolti verso il basso suoni male. Un saluto dall'Italia. Ciao.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! It is great that you were able to test these models out side-by-side. That is the best way to determine which one you personally resonate with most. For our videos, we usually take the line outs directly into our recording interface. We do not apply post-processing or effects to ensure that the sound is as transparent as possible. Periodically, we will put a stereo pair of condenser microphones up to capture the onboard speaker sound. In terms of which piano option would be best, obviously an instrument with top facing speakers might be more ideal given your specific set up. To that point, if you like the FP30X offering, you might want to consider the RD88 as well. Alternatively, you can set things up so that the sound of your digital piano comes out a pair of studio monitors that are ear level and facing you to optimize the listening experience. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
It would be interesting to see how the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII stacks up these 2 digital pianos as a digital piano even though the Arturia is more of a keyboard controller. Thanks for very thorough reviews.
I have tried both and if you are looking for a better action, go for the Roland Fp30x. As you have said, Arturia is more of a controller, with the dedicated pads and knobs and a smart DAW integration; I felt its key action much more "spongy", but perhaps it is my taste. Anyway, if you have the opportunity, try to play them both to better understand which one suits you better.
@@dart501st I actually own that arturia 😂. The key action is phenomenal. Just depends what you want to do with it. I use native instruments Grandeur and there is not comparison. Sounds way better than these 2 together. But just keep on mind that you will need a computer, interface and get the software that you like best. I am looking to buy the roland as my second piano cause I don't want to bring my arturia to play outdoors.
The only problem is that Roland FP-30X is in the price of Casio-S1000, not of Casio PX-S3000. At least in my country. Very beautiful review however. Both you music and your comments. Any advice about my dilemma between Roland FP-30X is in the price of Casio-S1000?
Really good review and enjoyable to watch. I just sold my last piano, a Roland 140R, and am now in the unenviable position of being in the market for something new. I guess what I'm looking for is a personal everyday board that I feel some kinds of connection with, one that feels familiar and comfortable. You know, like when you pick up an instrument planning to play for five minutes but end up playing for an hour. The Roland I owned before was nice, but whenever I sat down to it, it just didn't seem to have anything to hold me there. It was an expensive mistake. I hope the new owner gets more out of it than I did.
From the first look the Roland has more metal artificial solid notes, but Casio's sound is more transparent, neutral, lighter or brighter...anyway these two pianos are pretty good for home using ... Who can tell what is better Mercedes or BMW...?
i was going to buy px-160, then the px-s1000 but decided to upgrade to the px-s3000 because it has a mod wheel. seriously, i use that a lot hehe. it is also 50% cheaper than this roland in my country.
I really don't know what I should do for a upgrade I'm sort of decideciding between the Casio CDP-S350 or spending a little more to get the PX s3000 they both have what I'm looking for a shit load of tones to work with fully weighted keys recording abilitys. I think my one thing I'm bothered by the CDP-S350 is that it can't directly record to a flash drive I would have to hook up a computer or laptop to the CDP-S350 to export the recording while the Px s3000 can direct record to a flash drive
@@Jason75913 I actually decided on a new digital piano I actually decided to get the Korg xe20. It ended up going on sale on cyber Monday and ended up being cheaper then the casio px-s3000
@@chasing_the_horizon yes but hi compared the Roland FP-90 with the Yamaha p515, and the Rolando it's supposed to be better, so that is not a reason, for me.
can someone help me decide lol should i buy the roland fp-30x or the yamaha p-125? the only thing i don’t like about the fp-30x is the price-i can afford it but i do think it’s a bit high and i’d still need to buy a stand, then app and the user interface-both are boring lol while in yamaha i just dont like the keyboard action. i rlly like the sound but roland’s is better for classical music so irdk
Deal all, please don't buy Casio S3000 piano. by mistake I purchased for my son, with in 6 months, it started giving problems.(1, Line on LCD, 2, Volume increasing and decreasing automatically). I contacted customer support, I never seen such a horrible customer support in India, piano is with me unrepaired. Please don't waste your money
