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Thanks for joining us here today at the Merriam Piano RU-vid channel. Today, we’re going to be comparing two companies of piano royalty - Steinway & Sons and C. Bechstein. We’ll be covering some of the technical, design and musical differences between these two behemoth manufacturer’s.
It’s hard to think of two other brands who have had more of an impact on the piano industry over the past 150 years. Both brands at various times have occupied the absolute top market position in the premium piano category.
Currently, Bechstein sells the majority of pianos priced at over 10,000 Euros throughout many European markets, positioning it as the top premium manufacturer overall if accounting for uprights and grands. The Steinway Model D and Model B remain the majority choice for Concert grand and Semi-Concert grand instruments in concert halls around the world.
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Brand Differences:
Sub-Brand Approach:
Both of these manufacturer’s have glorious histories and offer some of the best pianos money can buy, but they have many differences. The first difference we’ll highlight is the disparate approaches these companies take to their less expensive sub-brands - in the case of Steinway, their sub-brands are Boston and Essex, while C. Bechstein’s sub-brands are W. Hoffmann and Zimmermann.
In Steinway’s case, the Boston line is actually manufactured by Kawai in Japan, and the Essex line has floated around among different Chinese manufacturer’s, currently settling with Pearl River.
With Bechstein, they directly manufacture all of their 5 European lines; C. Bechstein Concert, C. Bechstein Academy in Germany, and W. Hoffmann Professional, W. Hoffmann Tradition, and W. Hoffmann Vision in the Czech Republic. Only the Zimmermann is contracted out to Hailun in China.
While it’s not fair to say one approach is superior to the other, it is fair to say that there is going to be a lot more in common musically among the Bechstein family of pianos than among the Steinway family of pianos.
Grand Lines:
When it comes to grands, it’s a much fairer fight between these two companies. Steinway grands have a beautiful dynamism to their tonality, ranging from very dark to aggressive and layer after layer of beautiful harmonics. Their actions while heavy as very responsive, and the cabinetry is legendarily robust. The extensive use of maple produces a bassline tone that is a little bit more mid-range focused, and the Steinway D has some of the best projection of any concert grand currently available.
The Bechstein grands are built with a more technical design, which creates a far more noticeable cabinet resonance. Their approach is quite similar to Italian manufacturer Fazioli - extreme precision in the laminations, with layers of high quality alternating hardwoods in the rim. Bechstein’s also employ a more finely tuned duplex scale, and like the larger Steinways, the larger Bechstein’s also use a treble bell, which creates more sustain and projection in the treble. The result is a more colourful treble than the Steinway, and greater level of lower-mid warmth at softer dynamic ranges.
In terms of the actions, Bechstein’s are known for having a lighter action than a Steinway. Bechstein’s quality control is of the absolute highest quality, whereas Steinway’s New York facility has dealt with some quality control inconsistencies over the years.
Will Either Piano Increase in Value?:
This is something that stills comes up, in particular with Steinway’s, the idea that a piano will increase in value over time.This is by and large fale. If by the term value we mean buying an asset, and down the road liquidating said asset for more money than originally spent when accounting for inflation, the idea that this will happen with a piano simply isn’t true. A piano will not outpace inflation, and it’s also highly unlikely that a buyer would spend more for a used instrument than a new one.
The only exceptions to this rule are when considering one specific piano’s collectability, i.e. if the piano was featured in a movie, of course a collector may be willing to spend an inordinate amount of money to acquire said instrument.

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Комментарии : 159   
@enriqueali
@enriqueali 3 года назад
Hands down the best piano/ keyboard reviewer on the internet, bar none! Strikes just the right balance of technical details, musical impressions, and practical considerations like maintenance, serviceability, longevity, and applicability to real life situations (home use versus studio, etc.😃😃😃👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@aliar11
@aliar11 3 года назад
Couldn't agree more.
@jonnybravo3697
@jonnybravo3697 3 года назад
Agreed
@dynoroad
@dynoroad 3 года назад
While I agree that these videos are top notch, they really are piano demonstrations at best and not "reviews" per say, because that would imply they're impartial to some extent, which they are not. By definition, if you as a company sell a product, you can't post an impartial review about that product.
@MystiqWisdom
@MystiqWisdom Год назад
@@dynoroad well, they do plenty of Yamaha content but they do not carry Yamaha pianos. But I agree with what you said besides that.
@worldclass777
@worldclass777 7 месяцев назад
All I have to say is WOW. What a fantastic review - well spoken, OBJECTIVE, facts based, historical. I am super impressed.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 7 месяцев назад
Thanks a million! We sincerely appreciate those incredibly kind words! :)
@gerardhranek5414
@gerardhranek5414 2 года назад
Excellent review! Most comprehensive that I’ve found, and includes so many relevant details. Thanks!
@stefandrechsel
@stefandrechsel 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this enjoyable and highly knowledgeable video, just answering some of my questions!!!
@ibVODs
@ibVODs 3 года назад
you are my go to piano review guy, thanks for the videos! one thing i would say is in the comparison videos it would really help to hear the same piece played on both instruments back to back, I know in a video youve said you werent great at doing so but would really help to grasp how the sound compares between two pianos. Thanks for the content man.
@peechykern9705
@peechykern9705 2 года назад
Awesome video, amazing detail!
@kamiltamiola1097
@kamiltamiola1097 3 года назад
Excellent review. Thank you so much for your effort.
@teresavasey1041
@teresavasey1041 3 года назад
Excellent analysis, thank you.
@alexthompson6529
@alexthompson6529 3 года назад
Awesome video, I love these little match ups of similarities and differences. Very well balanced and delivered comparison. Not that I've played many... But the Steinway's I've played always seem a bit middle of the road, where as to me, the Bechstein's seem to really sing. Then again, I'm not a concert pianist..
@bambinomamuaya8653
@bambinomamuaya8653 3 года назад
I always enjoy your reviews.. Keep up the great work! Please review the new Kawai ES920 & 520 next✨
@6zhnvgz7
@6zhnvgz7 3 года назад
Dear Stu, I cannot say how much I enjoy your piano reviews since I began learning how to play piano! In my opinion you are offering the highest quality piano review videos out there! : ) Stu, as a suggestion, could you please make a video about what will change with MIDI 2.0 for piano players/live performers/composers? Best Regards, Björn
@Tigrangasparianofficial
@Tigrangasparianofficial 3 года назад
Great video and knowledge. thank you
@myboibill
@myboibill 2 года назад
Great , well presented information.You would be the man to see when purchasing any pian brand new or used. Thanks.
@dhavalparekh5088
@dhavalparekh5088 3 года назад
Thanks for the video
@correasilvio2010
@correasilvio2010 3 года назад
Bechstein the best!
@davidgiles9802
@davidgiles9802 3 года назад
By far,i thoroughly agree with you.
@tosinoparinde9563
@tosinoparinde9563 3 года назад
By far I thoughly agree with you
@fabiomand
@fabiomand 3 года назад
Agree
@jerseycasull4546
@jerseycasull4546 2 месяца назад
I have played on a Bechstein and can argue your comment, the Bechstein is incredible but it , in my opinion can not come close to the amazing signature of my 1914 Bluthner 190cm Aliquot grand piano, bar none. It is referred to as the golden tone and I can vouch for that, if any doubt than please come to my home and play my Darling Charlotte and prove me otherwise.
@GUPRPEET-Singh
@GUPRPEET-Singh 3 года назад
Thats why i subscribed to this chennal than any other of the same reviewing category.👍
@smokingshieldsnv606
@smokingshieldsnv606 2 года назад
Excellent
@monelleny
@monelleny 2 месяца назад
Love this, but was so looking forward to hearing them both.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 2 месяца назад
We're glad you enjoyed the video! We do have several videos that directly compare these two brands, such as the L167 versus Model M video on our channel. :)
@EElgar1857
@EElgar1857 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting, and very well-done!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much! It is much appreciated. :)
@Beyondabsence
@Beyondabsence 2 года назад
The Bechsteins you play in your videos are wonderful. But my guess is that your approach to harmonic and style ( very similar to mine) matches, perhaps, the sound of some of the very best Steinway signature sound.
@mroaquin
@mroaquin 3 года назад
Not enough people give credit to what a good piano technician can get out of an instrument
@illusionyx907
@illusionyx907 7 месяцев назад
In one villa's hall Steinway into other villa's hall Bechstein....a good combination, thank you!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 7 месяцев назад
That would certainly be an amazingly complimentary pair of instruments! :)
@pianowhizz
@pianowhizz 3 года назад
I won a brand new C.Bechstein in a competition - cost $0. Sold it for a massive profit. Never say never :). Great video btw: and yes the action on my C.Bechstein was amazingly well regulated. I have yet to measure any other instrument so perfectly handcrafted.
@ronp.6782
@ronp.6782 2 года назад
In what kind of competition can you win a Bechstein piano? 😄
@worldtravel101
@worldtravel101 12 дней назад
​@@ronp.6782i wanna know too
@user-sb7ns9ol7j
@user-sb7ns9ol7j 10 месяцев назад
Very interesting Stu, dissertation about those to giants of the piano world.I go frequently to concerts and recital, in Australia, where it is very common to hear a Steinway or Kawai and very seldom to see a Bechstein.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 10 месяцев назад
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed this deep dive into two of the giants of the industry. With that said, Bechstein is more of a dominant force in the European market. However, they are becoming a more popular choice in North America as well as more and more piano aficionados discover the beauty and expressivity of Bechstein. :)
@studentjohn35
@studentjohn35 2 года назад
I would pick a point with you, sir: The earlier Bechstein concert line (agraffes for every note, three hitch pins for all treble notes) had plenty of coloristic effects available. That wasn't the point. Schulze and Thomma wanted the instruments to be louder, at the expense of much else. They have achieved that. When I was looking for a Bechstein, I went looking for one with a serial number in the 170,000's. Found it. It's here in Toronto now. George Stimpson maintains that it's one of the five top pianos in the entire city.
@wjkwjk3484
@wjkwjk3484 Год назад
Thanks.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
You're very welcome! :)
@silentdaemon6837
@silentdaemon6837 3 года назад
Steinway seems a bit like a Gibson of the piano world. Classic, iconic sound and generally good quality but recently a bit inconsistent. You’re gonna want to play a few of them and take home the exact one you like. Whereas Bechstein is maybe more like a PRS, consistently great quality and tone but will always sound distinctly like a PRS.
@Thiago-px9ev
@Thiago-px9ev 2 года назад
Since pianos came first, its the other way around
@markhomiak6966
@markhomiak6966 2 года назад
I find myself using guitar references at well, since I'm new to pianos, but a 30 year guitarist. This comparison is spot on!
@romichjordan
@romichjordan Год назад
what is Fender?😂
@elmarhinze7899
@elmarhinze7899 11 месяцев назад
Steinway ist der Heldentenor. Bechstein ist deine eigene innere Stimme.
@jaimequijano9
@jaimequijano9 3 года назад
I´ve just read Aldo Ciccolini´s opinion (in 2011) about both brands, and he loathed "some Steinways" as "devices for relieving rheumatism. For me, the ideal piano today is a Bechstein".
@Nick-iz9zo
@Nick-iz9zo 3 года назад
Amazing pianos. For me, I would love a Mason and Hamlin someday :)
@paxwallacejazz
@paxwallacejazz 3 года назад
Yeah meeetooo brah the darker American bombast
@blackburn1111
@blackburn1111 Год назад
My university had a baby grand in a practice room. It was unfortunate that it was in such a small room, because it had such a strong sound. I also recall the upper few octaves were remarkably clear
@sensoeirensen
@sensoeirensen 2 года назад
From a beginners perspective; I only play 2.5 years now but I have a very good ears and have played music all my life with other instruments. Lacking of room I had to go with an upright. There‘s lightyears between the Concert Bechstein Line to Steinways. Grand Pianos might be different but for uprights; C. Bechstein (concerts) and Steingräber & Söhne are simply the best.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 2 года назад
The C. Bechstein uprights are absolutely out of this world! They are certainly very difficult to compete with when it comes to expressivity as well as tonal and dynamic potential. :)
@miltronix
@miltronix Месяц назад
I'm sure that you don't consider them in the same category as these two, but the finest piano I ever played (and I used to work at an S&S dealer, during which time I bought a new Yamaha) was a nearly new and meticulously prepared Mason & Hamlin BB I played my senior recital on. Its sustain seemed to go on forever- I had to re-pedal some pieces, having practiced on a S&S B... and the tone and touch were to 'die for'
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
Mason & Hamlin make wonderful pianos and the model BB is a spectacular instrument! Thanks for writing in with your experiences and insights. We appreciate it! :)
@leeloopatsy
@leeloopatsy 3 года назад
there are 2 aspects to a piano which are equally important. The first is purely technical, how the piano is made, what woods are used etc ... and the second is totally subjective, it is personal. it is very difficult, if not impossible, to say that one piano is better than another. For me the best pianos in the world are Bechstein, Blüthner, Steinway, Bossendorf, Fazioli and the Yamaha CFX. but trying to figure out which piano is number 1 number 2 number 3 etc ... makes no sense to me it's like asking which is the best sports car? Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Aston Martin? they are all equally incredible and the difference will be made on a personal level. The same goes for a piano. in my case I had 3 piano teachers between 9 and 18 years old. Two of these teachers had a Steinway. Most of the musicians I listened to and loved, in classical, like Robert Casadesus, Wilhem Kempf or Glen Gould, for example, played on a Steinway. The same in Jazz. Oscar Peterson, Erroll Garner, Keith Jarret, Bill Evans and many others played on a Steinway. therefore Steinway has been, is and always will be the best piano for me regardless of the quality of the others yet excellent too. because the sound of a Steinway is completely ingrained in my head and yes it is totally subjective. And thank you for this nice and interesting video.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 3 года назад
I'd add Shigeru Kawai to the mix of great pianos and there's Steingraeber and Mason and Hamlin as well. Peterson also played and enjoyed a Bosendorfer which got him in trouble with Steinway. And Gould played a Yamaha CF after his Steinway was dropped. Some great players, like Richter, enjoyed both Steinway and Yamaha's (Yamaha's CF's). Herbie Hancock seems to be favoring Faziolis now. Olga Kern went from Yamaha to Steinway. Emmanuel Ax sometimes likes to play the CFX vs. the Steinway D.
@leeloopatsy
@leeloopatsy 3 года назад
Benjamin Smith yes of course, you’re right. What I’m saying is just go and play them (no matter the brand) until you find the one which speaks to you.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 3 года назад
@@leeloopatsy Absolutely, Richard. Some pianos are more special than others, even the same make and model. And sometimes a less expensive piano can just have a magic to it and sounds as good as a more expensive one.
@johndavolta3124
@johndavolta3124 3 года назад
I have never heard of Bossendorf pianos, are they any good? Also the reason why all these famous Piano players use Steinway is because they have no option or they are bribed into it. Steinway has aggressive marketing and practices where concert halls are forced to purchase Steinways only. The same happens with music schools where students only get exposed to that brand and are never given any opportunity to try something different (except Yamaha once in a blue moon). Steinway is like Apple and Tesla, which are able to create a cult around them with subjective claims about quality which are not there. I am not saying Steinways are bad, on the contrary, they are excellent, but NOT the best. Far from that.
@leeloopatsy
@leeloopatsy 3 года назад
@@johndavolta3124 lol. Do you understand what you’re saying ? how do you think Steinway can force schools, operas and pianists to play only on Steinway pianos ??? What if they don’t ? They will burn their houses, rape their wives and daughters, beat the guys to death? You’re probably watching too much Netflix. And besides you’re probably not even a pianist if you’ve never heard about Bosendorfer.
@phillewis8839
@phillewis8839 Год назад
I have a C.Bechestein Concert Grand, it blows away a Steinway I had before. Real Ivory Keys too - problem is - am 80 and what will happen to it some day ! I bought it in 1983 - holds its tune perfectly, tuned twice a year - Located in Central New Jersey. Open to ideas ! Phil
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Hi! Brent here! Congrats on your C. Bechstein concert grand! They are wonderful pianos with unparalleled expressivity and musicality in my opinion. I would say that you should continue to enjoy the amazing musical experience it provides. :)
@phillewis8839
@phillewis8839 Год назад
@@MerriamPianos Thank you Brent - its a treasure, for me - after having a spinit piano when young, and eventually a Steinway B - my concert grand was and is the ultimate Piano- I can not read music - but the tone in the bass is just wonderful, as well as the rest of the Piano. at 80, I dont know what will happen to the instrument, just want it to go to the right person who will enjoy it - Thanks for your comment ! PHIL
@Hervinbalfour
@Hervinbalfour 11 месяцев назад
​@@phillewis8839you can will it to me. 😂😂😂 A Bechstein was always my favorite piano to practice on when I was a student at the SFCM. T
@michelle58178
@michelle58178 9 месяцев назад
Same situation for me C. Bechstein EN. 1972. I also have a Steinway. You are right. My Bechstein blows away my 9 ' Steinway and the quality is out of this world. However, the 9' Steinway is still a fantastic instrument. Should I want to sell one of them, I could not get rid of my Bechstein but my Steinway would sell immediately.
@worldtravel101
@worldtravel101 12 дней назад
Love the stein
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 11 дней назад
Haha for sure! Both Steins are very nice indeed! :)
@BDrones
@BDrones 3 года назад
I have heard that not all Steinways are good in fact a lot of the newer Steinways are not built that well at all. I saw this on more than one RU-vid channel which is unfortunate because I held them to the highest standard but after hearing several people say the same thing they are just not built like they used to. I would have definitely had to put the Yamaha CFX 9 foot Grant concert piano on this as it seems to be unbeatable in that category done tons and tons of research and every performer I have seen has been blown away about it. Bows and Dorf was bought out by Yamaha
@yosserc
@yosserc 8 месяцев назад
Don't believe what you heard on a RU-vid channel. Trust your ears!
@PianoUniverse
@PianoUniverse 3 года назад
I want to know what piano is in Stu's house.
@PeterbFree
@PeterbFree 2 года назад
I cannot claim any kind of expert knowledge when it comes to pianos, but I think I have not heard any piano sound nicer than the best from Boesendorfer
@paxwallacejazz
@paxwallacejazz 3 года назад
I've never had the opportunity to play a Modern Bechstein you say concert series or a Fazioli. I guess Herbie and Angela Hewitt have kinda gone Fazioli.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 3 года назад
If you get a famous person to sign it or who has owned it, yes, it goes up in value!!
@hastensavoir7782
@hastensavoir7782 Год назад
Would love to see a Bechstein 192 vs Steinway A-188 battle.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
That would be an epic battle to say the least! We will do our best to tackle it! ;)
@Clare2014
@Clare2014 Год назад
Hello, thank you for this very knowledgable review. Can I ask your opinon about their top range upright pianos: C.Bechstein Concert 6/8 vs. Steinway K132 ? Thank you.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks so much for tuning in! We appreciate it. :) In terms of the Concert 6/8 versus the Steinway K132, these are all truly marvellous instruments that are amongst the best upright pianos in the world. For me, the C. Bechstein Concert models are the most expressive instruments on the planet. Their dynamic and tonal range is unparalleled in my opinion. With that said, this is a highly-subjective matter, which comes down to personal preference.
@davidclark3603
@davidclark3603 Год назад
Wow, how knowledgeable
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Thanks for tuning in! :)
@user-cz6se1ve5k
@user-cz6se1ve5k 11 месяцев назад
Dear Stu, Could you please do an acoustic piano demonstration video of the new YAMAHA S6X or C6X grand piano as well ,since this is similar to Steinway B or C.Bechstein B models.? I would like your opinion, as your videos with Steinway and Bechstein and Bösendorfer are very good.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 11 месяцев назад
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning in and for your suggestion! We are not a Yamaha dealer, so it may be difficult to tackle those reviews/comparisons. However, we do receive a lot of Yamaha pianos on trade-in. If we receive either of those models, you can certainly be that we will have video reviews/comparisons coming your way. :)
@antoniomonteiro3698
@antoniomonteiro3698 3 года назад
Thank you for not calling "color" to the tone! :)
@johnschlesinger2009
@johnschlesinger2009 26 дней назад
Excellent video. Thanks for debunking the myth that a great piano is a good investment!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 26 дней назад
Thank you kindly! We're glad you enjoyed the video. :)
@LazoIV
@LazoIV 2 года назад
it would be interesting to hear your opinion about pianos fazioli
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 2 года назад
Thank you kindly for your suggestion! We keep a list of suggestions for potential future videos, so Fazioli will definitely be added to the list. :)
@LazoIV
@LazoIV 2 года назад
@@MerriamPianos thank you
@RainerSchweitzer
@RainerSchweitzer 3 года назад
Very good reviews with very fine ears! One more aspect: You hear Steinway pianos in almost every concert hall. Why would you want to have the same sound at home instead of something equally satisfying but different? A Bechstein Concert 212 costs some 10.000 € less than a Hamburg Steinway at the same tonal and build quality. A Fazioli, Bösendorfer, Steingräber @ Söhne (probably difficult to get in your part of the world), Blüthner (watch how they build them, should you ever have the chance!) are all on the same technical and tonal level but different in style. On this level, as you mentioned, it´s purely a matter of taste. And then, would you really want to play Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Brahms, Debussy on a japanese or korean instrument, however good they may be? Don´t get me wrong, I really like them.
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 3 года назад
I think Bach sounds great on Yamahas due to the precise articulation and medium-bodied tone, as opposed to the fatter tone you'd find on some of the German pianos and especially the American pianos. For Romantic, then the Germans shine but Kawai does well because they wash the sound and Kawais are on the dark side compared to some Europeans. So, Japanese pianos do fine playing European music as do American pianos like Mason and Hamlin and Charles Walter. I also find some Hailun pianos have a very good tone for playing the great European masters.
@johndavolta3124
@johndavolta3124 3 года назад
Shigeru Kawai's are in the same level of fine European brands.
@tonydarcy1606
@tonydarcy1606 Месяц назад
Does anyone have any information on *Mangeot et Freres, New York, Systeme Steinway* ? My father bought a 2nd hand one years ago, and it's still in the family.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
Hi there! i don't have a ton of information on these pianos, but I have seen them pop up on the used market over the years. I believe these were New York made Steinways (partially at least) that were imported by the Mangeot family into France. From my understanding, the Mangeot brothers were responsible for building the cabinets as well as prepping, regulating, and intonating the instruments using Steinway actions and mechanics that were imported from New York. The target market for these instruments were wealthy upper-class citizens in France and Great Britain. To that point, most of the Mangeot-Steinway pianos I have come across have exceptionally ornate cabinets and very beautiful finishing work. The following post from Piano World has some helpful information: forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/3410955/mangeot-steinway.html
@tonydarcy1606
@tonydarcy1606 Месяц назад
@@MerriamPianos Many thanks !
@robstevenson9352
@robstevenson9352 3 года назад
Talking about pianos is like dancing about architecture.
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 3 года назад
Steinway always made certain that the finest concert artists were playing a Steinway. People have to understand that pianos are made in factories. Just how good is any individual worker? I would not be surprised if I learned many middle eastern immigrants are working in the Bechstein plants. Who knows where Steinway gets it's labor force? The bottom line is the basic geometry of the instrument is very important. I image every top line piano manufacturer has to maintain very strict quality control. Personally I'm completely satisfied with the sound of Pianoteq voices. I just sent a message today to Kawai asking them to consider manufacturing a digital action kit to install into old grand cases.
@Kref3
@Kref3 3 месяца назад
The Bechstein Renaissance is something I do view a bit critical. Yes, their new instruments are very, very well made, yes they sound beautifully. But they do not sound like Bechsteins used to sound anymore. Not this is a problematic issue, I admit, I sound like Granpa Simpson shouting "My car makes forty rods to the hogshead" to rebuke the metric system. But I really think that the piano culture was at its best, when there were many manufacturers who had their own, brand specific sound idea. Steinways today are very similar to Steinways from 1910 and will probably sound more or less than new instruments did in 1910; todays Steinway sound is still pretty much THE Steinway sound. Bechstein, Blüthner, Bösendorfer (the three Bs from the German speaking piano world) and Steinway were the four big manufacturers of the pre-WWI and inter-war period. And if you listen to meticulously restored instruments of the period from each of these four manufacturers, you will be able to immediately say which piano is played at the moment. Everybody has his or her preference and there is nothing wrong with the preference of the Steinway sound. If I had to rate the four sound profiles from this era, I would rate them: Steinway, Bechstein, Blüthner, Bösendorfer, with Bösendorfer being the most beautiful and Steinway - though very beautiful - the worst. Bechsteins kept their sound profile until they redesigned all their instruments in the early 2000s. Until then they came with agrafs all the way up and no capo d'astra bar. Those are the only Bechsteins, I would be interested in. The new ones sound to much like a Steinway for my liking, so I would buy a Steinway instead. Steinway gained its huge market success mostly due them surviving WWII and Hamburg being able to restart production with help from NY in the 40s, while Bechstein and Blüthner were still bombed down and had lost everything. The new Bechsteins are beautiful instruments. I understand why people like them. But I think it is so sad that all piano manufacturers nowadays (except Bösendorfer maybe) try to emulate the Steinway sound and abandon their own, brand specific sound. As said in the video, now Bechsteins sound somewhere between a Steinway and a Fazioli. And NOT like any bechstein built between 1880 and 2000. If I buy a Bechstein or Blüthner, I do so because I want the specific Bechstein or Blüthner sound (which is the reason why I own a Blüthner X - 230 cm - from 1908).
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your insights. Naturally, this is a highly subjective matter of course and every player will have their own thoughts and preferences. With that said, these are all incredibly crafted instruments with their own unique beauty and character. As you mentioned, some manufacturers have updated their designs which have led to some slight differences in sonic qualities. Thanks again for tuning in and writing in! :)
@metteholm4833
@metteholm4833 Месяц назад
Beckstein.....WOW! Fazioli......WOW-WOW-WOW!
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
These are certainly some of the finest instruments in the world! :)
@carmenaballi
@carmenaballi Год назад
¿Las tres obras de arte de color negro de la pared me podrías decir de quién son, porfavor ? Gracias
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Hi there! While those they do kind of look like canvases, they are actually sound diffusers that are used to control the acoustics of the room. This video was shot in the piano/live room of our recording studio. :)
@carmenaballi
@carmenaballi Год назад
@@MerriamPianos muchas gracias por responder, también pensé en esa posibilidad.
@clydebermingham121
@clydebermingham121 2 года назад
🙏🏽💥🙏🏽
@Origen17
@Origen17 Месяц назад
I'm a lifelong pianist and have never heard of Bechstein 😀
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
C. Bechstein is one of the finest piano manufacturers in the world, but the company is not as commonly known as some other piano giants in the industry. However, that has gradually been starting to change.
@paxwallace8324
@paxwallace8324 3 месяца назад
So you're saying that a 2002 well maintained B212 isn't the equal of a 5yr old B212 all things being equal?? Because this AM I have to choose between a rather new Steinway B and a well maintained 2002 B212 I presume (7foot) at an Arts Center..
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 3 месяца назад
Hi! Brent here! It is important to note that musical preferences are highly-subjective. At the end of the day, the "right" sound is the sound that you personally feel most inspired by. My suggestion would be to audition the instruments you are deciding between thoroughly to determine which you prefer. There are a number of factors that come into play when comparing a 2002 B212 and a 2019 B212. The condition of the instrument, how well it has been maintained, and how well it has been prepped (i.e. tuning, voicing, etc.) by a technician will all impact the musical experience it yields.
@BH-2
@BH-2 3 года назад
For Steinways, I find the older ones are generally a lot better.
@Alix777.
@Alix777. 3 года назад
They have way more personnality
@revelationsoundstudio
@revelationsoundstudio Год назад
Older woods
@thedolphin5428
@thedolphin5428 Год назад
Why denigrate other brands based (Bosendorf and Fiazoli) based on lesser quantity?
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Hi! Brent here! I don't believe Stu is denigrating other brands based on the quantities of pianos they produce. The timeline to receive a piano may just be a consideration when shopping.
@Xingqiwu387
@Xingqiwu387 Год назад
This is a bit like photographers comparing cameras and lenses WITHOUT showing any of the images themselves. How about a sound comparison? People don't buy pianos as living room furniture or to admire their technical specifications in silence.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Hi! This particular video is just an overview of the two brands. We have many videos on our channel that showcase Bechstein and Steinway pianos in action. Specs and company philosophy are no doubt interesting and important to some customers, but the sound and touch that a piano offers is always paramount. :)
@Xingqiwu387
@Xingqiwu387 Год назад
@@MerriamPianos Thank you very much. I'll definitely check out those videos with sound samples.
@paulp3053
@paulp3053 3 года назад
so no performance on this video? sad..
@dynoroad
@dynoroad 3 года назад
And then there's M&H, Sauter, Bluthner, Steingraeber, and so on... these shouldn't be overlooked. Also, I think Yamaha and Kawai definitely should be in the conversation of dominating their respective markets. Yamaha pretty much put all of piano building america out of business, that is what I call dominance.
@ashy969
@ashy969 8 месяцев назад
Is it just me, or Steinway is the Apple of pianos? It is known by everybody If you sign up with them, you cannot use the other brands, it created an elitist culture around itself, in which people tend to talk down on other brands It is all around the world as a must because "others use it" It is good, but maybe not as uniquely magnificent and unrivaled as it is advertised... (yes, I am not a fan of Steinways. Simply because I prefer the sound profile of Bösendorfers - or at least some german-style, deep bassed, clearer sounding brand)
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 8 месяцев назад
I certainly understand the analogy and comparison you are making. Like Apple, Steinway has one of the most powerful brands in the industry. With that said, it is certainly not unmerited in the sense that they make fantastic instruments! However, there are so many incredible premium piano manufacturers out there that it would be silly to dismiss them if you are truly looking for an instrument that you resonate with emotionally. :)
@voodoosurvivor148
@voodoosurvivor148 3 месяца назад
Most important fact shared at 12:00 : if you want to enjoy playing a best-in-the-world piano buy a Bechstein. If you want an investment buy gold or bitcoin.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 3 месяца назад
That is certainly a fair analogy. With that said, from an emotional currency perspective, the memories and bond that you form with a piano of that level is often an investment that appraises over time as well.
@voodoosurvivor148
@voodoosurvivor148 3 месяца назад
@@MerriamPianos True and I’ll add that any currency that can’t be inflated away by the government is an excellent investment.
@tomarmstrong1281
@tomarmstrong1281 2 года назад
If I were a rich man and a skilled pianist I would have a top brand piano and a house with a room where the acoustics would be tailored to suit the instrument. But I am not that sort of rich man. However, having neither the money, nor the pianistic skills to exploit the musical nuances of a top of the range piano, I am more than satisfied with the combined talents of the keyboard of C Bechstein coupled to the electronics of Casio, in their hybrid Celviano GP300.
@andyokus5735
@andyokus5735 Месяц назад
I bought my brand new Yamaha 7' 4" in 1985 brought to my home still in the crate from Japan. I paid $10K for it. Now the same piano sells for over $100K. So I would say you are off on your money angle.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
That is a very good investment! It is true that the used market inflates along with the new market to a certain extent, but the age/condition of the instrument factor into the equation of course.
@michelprimeau4531
@michelprimeau4531 3 года назад
Pianos don't get value over time. That's what we call a brutal truth.
@romichjordan
@romichjordan Год назад
Steinway or Schimmel?😅😢
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
That is a fantastic suggestion for a future comparison video! Thank you kindly for the idea! :)
@romichjordan
@romichjordan Год назад
@@MerriamPianos Thank You!
@LogicalQ
@LogicalQ Месяц назад
Bechstein requires marketing material… Steinway speaks for itself.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
There is certainly a difference when it comes to brand recognition (particularly in places outside of Europe). With that said, C. Bechstein pianos tend to speak for themselves as well once a player has a chance to sit down at one.
@boryssezhi
@boryssezhi Месяц назад
Butt...whaddathay SOWND Lyke??!?? Da hole vid haz nooooo PNO myoozek.. Nawt eevin @ da ent!!! 😭
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Месяц назад
We have other videos that demonstrate both Bechstein and Steinway models. This particular video is intended to be an overview of the two brands.
@johnbanach3875
@johnbanach3875 6 месяцев назад
Why don't we see more Bechstein pianos in concert halls? If you view concerts online, you see Steinway pianos almost always and Bechstein almost never.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 6 месяцев назад
This is an excellent question and possibly one that is worth dedicating a whole video to. Every company has a different approach or philosophy when it comes to marketing. Some companies give away a lot of free instruments to artists and venues to elevate the brand's prestige, while other companies refuse to offer free instruments to artists and venues. This dynamic certainly plays a role, but there are of course other factors as well. Thanks for the question!
@Hervinbalfour
@Hervinbalfour 5 месяцев назад
Imo its because Steinway has aggressive marketing through there artist program. By providing the highest quality pianos for artist on tour. This also provides free marketing for Steinway. On a side note Bechstein is sold more than Steinways in Europe. They are Steinways direct competition in Europe and imo produce a better instrument than Steinway.
@johnbanach3875
@johnbanach3875 5 месяцев назад
Thank you. I think you're right!@@Hervinbalfour
@HeritagePianos
@HeritagePianos 3 года назад
There’s now 2 different kind of C.Bechsteins with varying degrees of quality, this fact cleverly hidden by same name. 😌 At least with Steinway and Boston this confusion doesn’t exist. Resting my case.🧐
@PassionPno
@PassionPno 2 года назад
There is such a thing as Hamburg Steinway vs New York Steinway.
@philbarone4603
@philbarone4603 2 года назад
I considered a Bechstein when I was shopping until I found out that they supported Hitler in a big way. I wrote Bechstein and suggested that they renounce w hat the Bechstein’s did but the refused so I bought a glorious 1906 Hamburg Steinway A. Who needs that in their house? Nevertheless, Stu is great and honest, I especially like the way he said that pianos don’t go up in value whereas Steinway does.
@ronp.6782
@ronp.6782 2 года назад
Even if Bechstein supported Hitler some 80 years ago,who cares?
@philbarone4603
@philbarone4603 2 года назад
@@ronp.6782 You're obviously an anti-semite and there's more to caring about just yourself in life. All I ever asked for them to denounce what the Bechstein's did but they won't do it because they're afraid of losing business because so many people are racists and it wasn't that long ago.
@ronp.6782
@ronp.6782 2 года назад
@@philbarone4603 Of course Bechstein won't denounce anything,why should they?Just because over 80 years ago some of them supported Hitler? It's past,it's history.Get over it and welcome to 2021!
@philbarone4603
@philbarone4603 2 года назад
@@ronp.6782 No, because the Bechstein's themselves held fundraisers for Hitler, Helene said she wished that Hitler was her son and because more than 6 million people were tortured and murdered including little children. Helene went to prison and they forfeited a large portion of their assets and let's not forget how pitiful their pianos became later on. Wake up Ron, the world is changing.
@ronp.6782
@ronp.6782 2 года назад
@@philbarone4603 Whatever 😆
@briane.paulson
@briane.paulson 11 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3FYKzITN6jA.html Bechstein for me.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos 11 месяцев назад
Hi! Brent here! While both of these company's manufacture incredible instruments, personally, I would have to agree with you! The C. Bechstein Concert grands in particular are immensely expressive and musical. :)
@allenroth2844
@allenroth2844 Год назад
Quite misleading in many places; he clearly has some agenda in mind.
@MerriamPianos
@MerriamPianos Год назад
Hi Allen! Thank you for taking the time to check out the video! We always try to present info as objectively as possible. With that said, the most important thing for any prospective piano customer to do is to get out to showrooms and experience these wonderful instruments for themselves. No two sets of ears are exactly alike. Beauty is in the ears of the beholder when it comes to musicians. The most important thing is to find an instrument that you connect with musically. :)
@arteguey
@arteguey 3 года назад
Too much talk and I did not listen the differences...
@user-fu7zf4ck9z
@user-fu7zf4ck9z 2 года назад
You want him to test every single model both companies offer? This is a comparison of the two brands
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