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🏗️📉 Lobbying Wars Over Data in Construction | Techno-Feudalism and the History of BIM's Hidden Past 

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@evgenyshirinyan
@evgenyshirinyan 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, Artem! I checked out your video just like I'm into a true crime movie. Maybe consider slowing it down a bit and breaking it into separate videos. Awesome job!
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 11 месяцев назад
Evgeny many thanks, unfortunately the information in the video is not always on the surface. It was mainly thanks to the link map on Miro that I was able to put everything into one big logical balloon Yes, the video will break into rils, and youtube now has tools that allow you to slice videos into separate parts.
@buildinformed
@buildinformed 10 месяцев назад
Thanks Artem for this great video, brilliant as always. Thank you for being an important part of the (no)BIM scene.
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 10 месяцев назад
Buildinformed many thanks you for your support Without noBIM, the industry is not balanced 😁 Perhaps with the BIM-noBIM dichotomy in place, someday all this marketing fluff will have to leave the construction industry and only "data" and "processes" will remain in construction, as they have been for millennia 🙌
@bimskills
@bimskills 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic work
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 11 месяцев назад
Many thanks BIMskills🙋‍♂
@lancelindquist8925
@lancelindquist8925 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic video! Thank you for the immense amount of work that went into compiling all of the information in this video. In your opinion Artem, what will be the next step in this problem? Are things capable of getting better or are the hands of most consumers and companies tied?
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 11 месяцев назад
Lance, thank you very much for your support! Subjectively, I believe that the major CAD vendors have fallen into the trap they have put themselves in by inventing BIM. Large CAD vendors and major vendors get full information from closed formats using special SDKs. For example, Graphisoft can import Revit format into ArchiCAD from 2022, or the same Autodesk, using the same SDKs, exports data from Revit to IFC.A free converter for Revit 2015-2022 and IFC2x3 formats is already available for download on the DataDrivenConstruction website, which provides a complete dump of project data into convenient and popular formats without the use of tools from CAD vendors. "He who is not cunning is the one about whom everyone says he is cunning" (Alexander Suvorov). I subjectively believe that the more we talk about the history of the emergence of BIM concepts and who is involved in promoting them, the faster we can move to the next level of data usage when the whole BIM foam evaporates
@eccussa3251
@eccussa3251 10 месяцев назад
interesting, Dassault Systèmes is absent from the analysis....Except when Discussins Solidworks... Dassault systèmes is owner 1.7% by Vangard and 0.6% by Blackrock.... 40%+ by the Dassault family...
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 10 месяцев назад
eccussa thanks. This video is more about software that affects productivity in the construction industry and Dassault Systèmes is more about mechanical engineering. ProE from mechanical engineering is seen in this video as a product that directly influenced the creation of the Revit product - on the basis of which Autodesk built its BIM marketing campaign
@TheSergey99
@TheSergey99 2 месяца назад
"Капитализм, счастье, помолись". I appreciate your analysis. A video like this reveals the disgusting picture of the current economic system. And I believe it helps to grow the grapes of wrath. Special thanks for the music from one of my favorite films The Cold Summer of 1953.
@jhanalexander5377
@jhanalexander5377 10 месяцев назад
thank you for the video, really informative and sums up a lot. My only suggestion is to make your voice a little louder and maybe tone down the music or maybe pick something with a less pitch. Besides that greate work.
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 10 месяцев назад
Alexander many thanks, I will try to incorporate your comments into the next videos
@andrerudolfschneider3979
@andrerudolfschneider3979 11 месяцев назад
well done artem and team
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 11 месяцев назад
Hi André, Thank you 🙋‍♂
@proproektirovanie
@proproektirovanie 10 месяцев назад
Very dynamic and interesting video. I'm not a follower of conpiracy theories, but I understand that st least facts in this video are fully correct. All this research was a great job, and making a video version of the results is a good tool to let professoinal society to know the real history of BIM. Special thanks for soundtrack, being a musician I appreciate you sense of humour :)
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 10 месяцев назад
@Proproektirovanie thank you very much! I appreciate your detailed comment. If possible, please write down what points from the video point to the conspiracy - it will be important for me for further materials or posts 🙋🏻‍♂. Personally, I subjectively believe that there is no conspiracy and the struggle for control over data is a natural coincidence of circumstances, which in one way or another occurs in every sector of the economy and every sphere of life.
@christophefortineau8600
@christophefortineau8600 10 месяцев назад
Interesting and rich video despite some approximations and inadequate interpretations. Autodesk is one of the founding members of the IAI which only aims at interoperability and therefore openBIM. The disparity in mastery of openBIM is less due to a strategic approach than to Autodesk's late affiliation with the Open Design Alliance (September 2020). Since this affiliation we can finally hope for a better quality of BIM collaborations and therefore openBIM since the term BIM comes from the union of publishers and not from their individual practices.
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 10 месяцев назад
Christophe thank you very much for your comment. I agree with you, but a decade ago Autodesk spent several years suing the Open Design Alliance for opening up the DWG format and then trying to fight the proliferation of Teigha DWG. Autodesk joined the Open Design Alliance originally to use a quality ODA data converter from Revit to IFC, if I remember correctly, because Autodesk developers couldn't organise a quality export. So I doubt that the purpose of joining ODA was to strive for interoperability and transparency. Even Graphisoft has already learnt to read Revit files thanks to ODA, so it is obvious that Autodesk suddenly became interested in becoming a strategic participant and observer in the development of ODA
@kimerful
@kimerful Месяц назад
Do you believe the consensus is shifting with the introduction of native tools that can directly create IFC formats?
@michaeljohl4669
@michaeljohl4669 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate your effort, but I just found a mistake. It was Diehl Graphsoft not Diehl Graphisoft, who invented miniCAD. The „i“ is important here. What is the dashed connection between Gabor Bojar and Diehl Graphsoft, besides being Software Developer for Apples operating system? Why is the fact, that Hungary was member of the Warschauer Pakt important for this map and if so, why not mentioning the NATO ?
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction 7 месяцев назад
Michael, many thanks for your comment. Both Radar CH developers worked in one way or another in the Warsaw Pact countries. One of the creators of Radar CH (ArchiCAD) worked with organizations that were under the protectorate of the Soviet Union, and both Radar CH creators were paid to develop solutions that were precursors to Radar CH, for the Soviet nuclear industry. What does NATO have to do with RadarCH - ArchiCAD? From public sources it is not quite clear how the MiniCAD Graphsoft and Radar CH Graphisfot products are related, as there is no documented evidence of the connection. But what facts there are on this topic: - In the 80s, Apple founder Steve Jobs notices at a German conference the huge potential of the Radar CH product - In the 80s an agreement between Radar CH developers and Steve Jobs to illegally ship Apple computers to Hungary has surfaced - 1984 is the year the Radar CH (Graphisoft) for the Apple Lisa was officially introduced - 1984 is the year of appearance of MiniCAD product, which also comes out on Apple only already on the American continent and with a similar name, but without "i" Graphsoft If we compare screenshots of these two products Radar CH and MiniCAD - similarity in the interface is striking, with the difference that MiniCAD 1984 does not contain some buttons that are already in Radar CH. Unfortunately, there is little information on this story and it is unlikely that anyone will tell openly about those times and those agreements that were between developers and Steve Jobs. I assume that these products are connected through Steve Jobs and therefore they are shown on the map not as stable connections but as dotted lines that indicate only the possible existence of a connection, just like for example between SONATA and Radar CH or Revit.
@goli8888
@goli8888 Месяц назад
Really interesting, but the music is by far too loud, annoying and nearly unbearable
@datadrivenconstruction
@datadrivenconstruction Месяц назад
Goli8888 many thanks for your comment, I'll try to take it into account in the next videos
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