🐯 Tiger Overpass & Underwater viewing | Koali Zoo | Speed Build | Planet Zoo Collab | Ep. 20

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Tiger Overpass & Underwater viewing | Habitat | Siberian Tiger Crossing | Tiger Bridge | Underwater viewing gallery | Enclosure | Koali Zoo | Speedbuild | Planet Zoo Collab | Ep. 20 | Exhibit | Animal Bridge | Silvarret | Rudi Rennkamel | Mike Sheets | In this episode, we build a Siberian Tiger Overpass inspired by a mixture of Cleveland Zoo & Tulsa Zoo (and maybe a tiny bit of Jacksonville Zoo).
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@captainstroon1555 4 года назад

DeLady: builds a beautiful overpass. The tiger: Heehee! - moonwalks across

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Hahahaha such silly tigers :')

@sniffvillage825 4 года назад

who thinks that Frontier should add marine animals and sea plants and coral and other stuff to Planet Zoo?

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

YESSSSSS want want want !

@sniffvillage825 4 года назад

@@DeLadysigner do you have contact with Frontier? if you have contact with Frontier. if you do can you ask them if they're going to add marine animals and sea plants and other stuff? 👍 btw i love your channel keep up the good work!😄

@tangylemon66 4 года назад

@@sniffvillage825 Dude you gotta understand marketing for that.. If they release all kind of themes all at once.. they will run out of buisness.. because people will get bored of it.. That is why.. whenever their players get bored of it.. they give updates so that people will be intrested in the game

@sniffvillage825 4 года назад

@@tangylemon66 I know but I want to know if it ever comes out

@gabstownsend 4 года назад

Tangy Lemon bro he didn’t say he wants it to come out right now. just ever

@schagerbaantje 4 года назад

Considering sightlines i would suggest making a decorative 'broken' overgrown stairway towards the temple up hill. Like that 'was' the way up but nature has taken over with small bushes and stuff

@romainstocky2753 4 года назад

I think the indian rhino will fit perfectly in the open area next to the siberian tiger.

@InazumaXKrizo 4 года назад

That's one of the best exhibits I have ever seen in this game. Btw it was a big surprise to see Rudi and Silv here.

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you Krizo :) why was that a surprise :P ?

@KittyLove93 4 года назад

@@DeLadysigner maybe cause they are not mentioned in the title ;-)

@InazumaXKrizo 4 года назад

@@KittyLove93 exactly

@brq267 3 года назад

It's Koali Zoo and Koali Zoo is a collab zoo, so you should expect to see more than one person in one video of it

@jacobleach2862 4 года назад

Welcome back to another episode of “Will Mike touch it?” Today our contestant is the wonderful Deladysigner!

@kt.mcfadyen 4 года назад

I loved the overpass. I really loved the way you wrapped the wood around the glass in the organic way - beautiful lines. It is also great how the entire habitat is nestled so nicely in that part of the zoo. Lovely.

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much ❤

@goofofff 4 года назад

This makes me depressed after looking at my own zoo

@lindaouau 4 года назад

@entonduck 3 года назад

Ha I have a so bad CPU, but I want to buy me the i5-9600 and a new motherboard=280€

@maep6422 4 года назад

Just dying for you guys to ride the monorail!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Gonna be so much fun :D !

@MsBenjamin6969 4 года назад

Marvelous video! Due to the lockdown, I often experience panic attacks but your videos are just soothing my mind and heart. Every time your cheering voice and laughter, as well as your chats with Rudi and Silver, calm me! So thank you for that!

4 года назад

Jouw ideeën zijn echt geweldig! Door jouw video's heb ik altijd meteen zin om het spel te beginnen spelen. Some people will say it's just a game but it might be our future. Alles wat we bouwen in het spel of wat we maar kunnen bedenken zal ooit in het echt kunnen. Dit bewijst dat onze creativiteit iets heel sterk is en we dit serieus moeten bekijken. Hope you have a lovely day Lady! Stay awesome and safe! ♥

@nanfredman1991 4 года назад

I also love that underwater viewing point with the skylight and vines hanging down! Gorgeous. And temple pieces for the tiger tunnel. 👍👍👍 So pretty. Watching all you guys' videos helps me so much with this game.

@melissadeegardiner-sheedy4836 4 года назад

I’ve recently bought Planet Zoo and discovered you on RU-vid (and the rest of the Koali Crew). I’m so excited ‘cause I’ve been binge-watching the whole series so far but this is the first video I’ve had to wait for. I looooove love love love love Koali Zoo! This habitat is gorgeous, but so is absolutely everything else in the zoo! :)

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much Melissa ♥

@sveamartens9192 4 года назад

The same for me! I can highly recommend watching also Koali Beach, even if it is older. It's so beautiful and interesting to see

@Floflotintin 4 года назад

That's one of my favorite habitats in Koali! The bridge you made is absolute fire! The tigers not knowing if they want to cross or not is hilarious, they remind me of my cat 🤣

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Hahaha I know right... they do exactly what cats do aka whatever they want 😆❤

@clonny2 4 года назад

Hope you feel better DeLady!! Amazing build as always!!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much ♥ Doing a little bit better already ♥ Hope to be back this weekend ♥

@JoeyV.S 2 месяца назад

this is one of the very first planet zoo videos I ever watched back in 2021. I didn't understand any of it haha

@DeLadysigner 2 месяца назад

Hihi! I hope that changed over the years 😄

@Bethgael 4 года назад

Every time I see a Koali Zoo episode pop up I get a wee glow of happiness. This is good, as I'm generally a rather depressed individual. Thank you. x

@sandrakorb 4 года назад

ROTFL @ the moonwalking tiger 😂😂😂 Lovely habitat Delady!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Hahaha thank you so much Sannie ❤😘

@TheJimpon 4 года назад

this is soo good, i was watching the other episodes just now, and was like, "release the next episode now", and then baam there it is

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much Jimmy :) ♥

@andreamislosky-garner5324 4 года назад

Cleveland zoo is my hometown zoo!! Funny story- I got pee'd on by a tiger who was laying on the walkabout.... Yup. Like, right on top of me. Not a little dribble.

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Aaaaaah noooooo 😆 that must have been horrible 😆

@klapp4773 4 года назад

That happens to me on a daily basis

@DesmondCreighton 4 года назад

Haven't you seen tiger king? Everyone gets peed on by a tiger. You can even get a shirt that says, "I got peed on by a tiger so I had to buy this shirt".

@333ECC 4 года назад

Great job @deladysigner! What an awesome habitat! And that overpass - jaw-dropping! Those beams look like roots! I think one of the key things to play in PZ with is terrain, it adds such a natural feeling to the overall atmosphere. Looking forward to Mikes next episode!

@Kaneanite 4 года назад

Man those tiger are so talented, they can walk on their hind legs, they can make half their body look like it disappears and they can even moonwalk. It's so nice of you to build them a great looking stage where they can sow off their talents.

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Hahahahaha I love this one :') ♥ Thnx Fay hahaha !

@joeandashgazaway3700 4 года назад

I always thought it would be cool for these guys to tackle a fantasy zoo but In a cinephile way. Like a habitat based in Peter Pan with crocodiles with captain hooks ship as a viewing platform. Or the casino in casino royale with Komodo dragons. The Indian elephant for Indiana Jones. The hyena in scars lair. I surely can’t do it as a novice at planet zoo but these guys would make it so cool.

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

I love those ideas! Ever since I heard the game would come out, ive been making list for movie inspired habitats.. i would like to make a zoo with different habitats inspired by those movies but also with the most accurate animals.. 😆 so far.. there arent that many movies to cover with the animals we have (if you really want to do it right).. so thats the reason I havnt started yet hihi

@joeandashgazaway3700 4 года назад

DeLadysigner so excited to hear you thought of it too! Yeah I’ve been got a few that I’ve been trying my hand at but just thought it would be really cool to watch the professionals ( like you all) try to go through pieces and find out how to build things planet zoo would never think to put in. Love what you guys are doing and can’t wait to see koali beach through 😊

@SavannahBurris 3 года назад

Reminds me of the Philadelphia Zoo - they have crossovers for all sorts of animals there!

@liselotgrace 4 года назад

I would really like to see the cart ride going thru a waterfall at some point, I think that would give an awesome effect! Love this habitat✨🐆

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

That would be awesome! And thank you so much ❤

@liselotgrace 4 года назад

DeLadysigner omg... thank you so much!! I’m also Dutch btw, en jij bent echt mijn favo ytber!🦋

@rhettC5 2 года назад

There is a Tiger Overpass at Busch Gardens Tampa Bay zoo near where I live and I was lucky enough to witness the tiger going through it. It was huge!

@DeLadysigner 2 года назад

Woah that sounds so amazing ❤️

@emielvb4995 4 года назад

If I have to be honest, you’re the best in building habitats! Rudi is CEO of creativity, Mike is CEO of details and foliage and Silv is the CEO of architecture’. That’s why you guys make such a great team!

@rachelmiller1038 4 года назад

Your grasp of the tools in planet zoo is incredible! I’m still in the early stages of learning how to control the game and place paths. Watching by your build is inspirational and makes me want to try harder!

@theyeti6258 4 года назад

Absolutely amazing! I just wanna thank you guys for inspiring me to try this game in the first place. I'm following a lot of tv shows right now but out of everything I watch this is the thing I'm most looking forward to every week.

@CountryBuff08 4 года назад

I was just looking for something like this in another video. Such a cool element! I'm so glad we're able to do something like this.

@lailaagrado 4 года назад

DeLady- you are the queen of this game! I am so happy that all of you are together finally! so sad about Mike! Do you guys ever heard of The Gaming beaver?

@ΑριστεαΚαλτσά-ψ8χ 4 года назад

Omg i Wonder how Mike hasnt added the polar bear yet but i think that you should add it, it would fit perfectly! Love your vids💖

@chocolatekudasai7882 4 года назад

There are 2 tiger habitats in the zoo now??

@thijs6990 4 года назад

I love love looove this exhibit!! It looks so incredibly good :) Love the 4 of you and can't wait for next week

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much Thijs 😘

@iknowimdumbbut8221 4 года назад

I can’t understand how u always come up with new and awesome ideas for every single build...

@kaerunoo7172 4 года назад

:') I live in Jacksonville and the whole time I was watching this i was like, this is like the Jacksonville zoo! I went at the beginning of March before the lock down started and it was so cool.

@BoldEquine 4 года назад

It’s so pretty! But I just keep imagining a tiger reaching through the gap in the tunnel and grabbing a guest

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Lol..... same 😆 but i wanted an open space instead of closing it off.. like the glass would hurt the viewing still haha

@BoldEquine 4 года назад

DeLadysigner I think it would need a gap somewhere or else it would get really really hot in there and now it’s a sense of adventure of don’t have your kid on your shoulder as you walk by 😂

@nickdentoom1173 4 года назад

@@BoldEquine Not only that, if there isn't a gap, the Tigers are gonna pass out from the poop smell eventually.

@leonewashere 4 года назад

Omggg I always look forward to these episodes😍 every one blows my mood mind

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Aaaw thank you lovely ♥

@leonewashere 4 года назад

Always a pleasure Delady❤️❤️❤️

@Pinkstarclan 4 года назад

wow! my favorite overpass ive seen fore sure

@chiarabookworm4482 4 года назад

Such an amazing build Delady! Love it so much 😍

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much ❤

@martendschrage 4 года назад

Good work. Fits in well. I like the overpass.

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you Marten :)

@Cosmic-Greninja 9 месяцев назад

Tulsa Zoo, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA, has a walk over (Bridge) for there Lion or Tiger, it wasnt very long, but it was neat.

@shadowlordahroun4402 4 года назад

I choose to believe that the circus Koali Zoo rescued the Siberian Tigers from taught them to moonwalk as a circus trick, and now they occasionally do it on the overpass through force of habit. Thanks for giving the Tigers a far better quality of life, guys!

@VelociraptorAnimations 4 года назад

AWWESOME!! what dlc do you wanna see next? I want to see a bird one with cranes and ducks and swans and parrots

@gabstownsend 4 года назад

Velociraptor Animations marine animals!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

I defo would love a birds pack and aquatic pack ❤

@remcodelissen1781 4 года назад

The Tigers Finaly ❤, Sow Amazing Cute ❤

@omixampro7480 4 года назад

I like your vídeos and your zoo Plis more videos like this

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you 😊 doing the best I can 😊

@tiagoadulis 4 года назад

Love that CATwalk!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much ♥

@gravygorilla1 4 года назад

Watching you guys make crazy parks like this really makes me feel like a noob at this game lol gotta step it up!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Keep trying ❤ you can do it 💪❤

@gravygorilla1 4 года назад

DeLadysigner thanks I appreciate it 😁

@thecakesnake 4 года назад

Hey if you want to switch to a jaguar you totally could! Many zoos switch animals out of exhibits all the time. Like this one I used to go to often had an elephant exhibit but no longer had elephants, so they repurposed it into a rhino exhibit. Sooo... yeah!

@okehansen3872 3 года назад

Lady complaining about recording at 11:30 while Im watching this at like 4am in the morning is lowkey iconic!

@DeLadysigner 3 года назад

Lol ♥

@marcelw82 4 года назад

This is awesome! We need Dinos!!! Jurrasic Park style dierentuin zou echt vet zijn ;-)

@lindaouau 4 года назад

I had this idea of the overpass for my zoo, and now I have a way how to make it! Thx!

@lindaouau 4 года назад

I made this for monkeys but they flew XD

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Glad I could help! ♥

@___Tina___ 4 года назад

Really enjoyed the tiger place :o the bridge looks soooo fitting for the place! i think i would like a little water feature behind the benches at the underwater viewing so you can hear water while watching the tigers swim :D

@Horser01 4 года назад

The hill up to the pandas, lots of flowers in between the two paths. Possibly with Peafowl? I feel like those would really suit a temple setting.

@CorrectFossa 4 года назад

Louisville Zoo apparently has a very intricate overpass for the snow leopards

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Yes I saw that one too.. I posted all the overpasses/bridges etc in my discord server in the inspirational channel :) suggested by so many lovely people ♥

@TheVirtualace666 4 года назад

Absolute fantastic work. The Overpass for the Tiger looks so so so so so..... awesome, especially with the Templepeaces and the Woodwork. I see there is a lot of loveliness in this Habitat and it fits perfect in the "Great Koali Zoo Project"! I am excited to see more, I hope you will do the Red Panda Habitat soon! *Cuddeling my plush Red Panda*. Lovely greetings from Germany!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much ♥ I defo need to look into fluffy Red Pandas soon ♥

@eringiglio3560 4 года назад

Very belatedly--but the San Antonio zoo has just such a crossover for its jaguar habitat!

@coreysaige4058 4 года назад

Yes I've been waiting for a new planet zoo vid

@mirijamz 4 года назад

this overpass is amazing!!! thanks for making it available in the Workshop

@Maria-bt6zp 4 года назад

I love the overpass, it looks stunning! And also your terrain work amazes every time it’s so realistic and so smooth. I can’t believe how big this zoo has become!! And how everything ties up now! Keep up the good work!!!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much Bala Maria ♥

@WissieJ 4 года назад

Love the idea ❤️❤️

@princessaka3189 4 года назад

I understand rudi well i am not working but in the day there are always things that distract me so i study in the night when everyone is sleeping and atfer a while the body adapts to it. Well the good thing is that i can shorten the time i learn by one or two hours 🤷🏻‍♀️

@reubensaraiva8184 4 года назад

this looks amazing! Keep up the good work. If these are supposed to be sumatran tigers, the bengal would be more similar but I know you already have them. Great work as always

@kaya7600 4 года назад

If I could, I would give more than one like to this Video! I love how the habitat looks

@JD_Mortal 3 года назад

Your next overpass should be two parts, joined by a feeding area that is hidden. Place the keepers entrance at that feeding junction. The tigers will enter and eat, then walk out to go play and sleep.

@denisetenwestenend4248 4 года назад

Geweldige dierentuin!! door jullie leer ik zoveel over het bouwen:) word deze dierentuin als die af is op de workshop gezet?

@ZinTyPhoon 4 года назад

If you do build a "secret" habitat that only the monorail can see, I'd suggest putting something BIG in it, so people on the monorail can actually see what it is.

@andreamislosky-garner5324 4 года назад

My favorite tuber and my favorite content!! Love this!😘

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much Andrea ♥

@andreamislosky-garner5324 4 года назад

@@DeLadysigner hope you get well soon, love! ❤

@kennym4594 3 года назад

Another AMAZING build!!!!!!!! Can you tell me please, as I could not see it on the video, what stops the tigers from just walking up the rocks on the left of the overpass?...there does not seem to be a barrier....ty.

@RudiRennkamel 4 года назад

wait how did we fill nearly 45 mins? :-)

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

😆 crazy shizzleeeeee

@aprilbrooks1412 4 года назад

I love this 💕 I’ve been hoping for a tiger overpass! Such amazing creativity! You should build a zoo in real life lol

@belinhaqw8918 4 года назад

What a talent my god, i wanted to know how to build like that at Planet Zoo❤️✨

@cloud_and_proud 4 года назад

If the Siberian tiger is a stand-in for the Sumatran tiger, doesn't it make more sense to swap out the Siberian tiger and the Bengal tiger, so the SUMATRAN tiger is in SUMATRAN island?

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

You've got a very good point here actually! :D

@Anigmandra 4 года назад

This overpass looks wonderful😍 I will try to make something like this in my Zoo too😁

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much lady ♥ Good luck building your own ♥

@novart9230 4 года назад

It's so beautiful and I love that the path lead directly to the panda temple ! it would be cool to have a big old stairs that go up that cliff (even a fake one that can't be used by guests)so we are really tempted to go trought the habitat to go to the panda temple :D You have that in Pairi Daiza : they made a buddhist temple with a old looking and steep stairs on the front and a more gentle pathway on the side (so usually you take the path to go up to the temple and go down with the stairs because doing it on the either way around is...not easy :p)

@senseishorty590 4 года назад

Idk why but I really like ur laugh 🙃

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you so much :') ♥

@steliosstanis2125 4 года назад

Wow. that's so Pretty COOL!!!😮😉👍 🌷🌴🐯🌴🌷

@hansc4636 4 года назад

Woahhh cool habitat!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you Hans C ♥

@jblaze4194 3 года назад

Love your videos and your eye for design. Great work. Me, well I'm having a little trouble with the keeper not getting to both sides of my snow leopard habitat. I tried putting a door underneath on both sides but then that prevents them from walking through it now. Any helpful suggestions are greatly appreciated.

@alexb859 4 года назад

Awesome video!!! Also I'm wondering if you can make an exhibit with elephants, giraffes, and cheetahs, I know the cheetahs wont go for the adult elephants and giraffes, but I think the cheetahs are to small to even go for the baby elephants and giraffes?

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Im not sure if Giraffes and Cheetahs will be added in Koali.. but lets see what the Koali crew thinks haha

@alexb859 4 года назад

@@DeLadysigner yep, thanks :)

@volcana1029 4 года назад

'What is she doesn't hear us????' LOL

@sirplaisbad 4 года назад

I swear, every koali episode I'm having to add stuff to my ideas list on what to add to my zoos🐱 Hope we'll get to take a ride on the monorail ourselves someday.

@kinghenrikhl8778 4 года назад

You are so creative and I love you Channel

@annebje8380 4 года назад

It is so beutiful, i love it!!!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

Thank you Anne ♥

@ryanb8903 4 года назад

You should do an update episode, similar to the livestream, but just with a POV of the monorail. It would be really interesting to get that perspective of the zoo.

@Cruxador 4 года назад

The reason there's a lot of tiger overpasses in the US rather than jaguar passes is just that tigers are easier to come by. The US has something of an industry for breeding tigers as exotic pets and show animals. These tigers aren't bengals or siberians or anything though, just hybrids and often inbred for albinism or other aesthetic traits, so they could never be released to the wild and are purely domestic despite not being entirely domesticated. There's a recent documentary that touches on this called Tiger King which got pretty popular, although it focuses more on specific personalities than the industry itself so I can't really recommend it as an information source. 25:30 it's a good sightline but there should be something other than mud visible below the bridge. Like, foliage ideally with some flowers or something maybe. Prime sport for a Mike garden in other words. Instead of chain link barriers in the towers there could be a wooden lattice to match the wood on the bridge. I think the times the tigers don't work is when they're walking on the lower of the two overlapping paths. The place you mentioned the giant anteater can also be visible from the path, but only in a small place. However, if it's designed to take that into account it can be appreciated effectively from there too.

@kristamueller5562 4 года назад

I have 1 question 4 u, do u get the sandbox mode right away or no? But I love that u did tigers and it looks amazing!

@varlk5814 4 года назад

Can you put more animals in the Meilin zoo? For example insects, snakes, gazelles, snow leopards mandrills

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

We have a few spots left :) insects and snakes are all already added in the exhibits we have :)

@Horser01 4 года назад

How about steel struts sunk into the rock supporting the monorail track? The track is pretty close to the rock wall most of the way. The steel wouldn't have to go far to reach.

@PredictableEnigma 4 года назад

I don't know much about jaguar behavior but all the enclosures I've ever seen of them at zoos always gave me the impression that they are very secretive? Always lots of hiding places and places where they blend in. But they are also very aboreal so they might love being up high over the guests?

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

I have no idea, hihi, there is a zoo that does have an overpass for Snow Leopards and Jaguars in real life tho 😊

@maximussy738 4 года назад

Hey Lady, At the end are you going to do a tou of the monorail on both sides because they are pretty different. That would be so cool!!!!

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

We will do ♥

@remexotics1613 4 года назад

this build really reminds me of meilin zoo🥰

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

♥

@poprostubartek895 4 года назад

When do you think the Austrialian pack will be?

@DeLadysigner 4 года назад

IF there will be an Australian pack (which is very likely looking at the other two packs we got so far)... I think this will be maybe June/July? Unless they will launch a different continent obviously.. then we still have around Sept/Oct a DLC and then Dec again. of which I am hoping Dec will be a much bigger pack with like aviaries or maybe aquatic animals :)

@michaelmacwilliams8371 4 года назад

Hi DeLadysigner, You Are So Good At Building Habitats In Planet Zoo, And My Name Is Callum Macwilliams And I Play Planet Zoo Also, And Planet Zoo Has The Best Graphics Ever With The Animals, And Also Planet Zoo Seems To Be One Of My Favorite Zoo Games To Play Besides Planet Coaster, And so DeLadysigner Can You Please Start Playing Planet Coaster More Besides Planet Zoo And Play Planet Zoo A Lot Too.

@marksabeloryx9996 4 года назад

You could add gorillas as a trackride exclusive since gorillas naturally are quite shy apes

@BleachO 3 года назад

The Tulsa Zoo is in my State!

@DeLadysigner 3 года назад

Awesome!!

@jilnicki 4 года назад

It may be too late to add this comment but yes, it is "canalized" lol canalize verb Save Word To save this word, you'll need to log in. Log In can·a·lize | \ ˈka-nə-ˌlīz \ canalized; canalizing Definition of canalize transitive verb 1 a : to provide with a canal or channel b : to make into or similar to a canal

@raphalbraga 2 года назад

This is planet zoo art

@DeLadysigner 2 года назад

Aaw thank you so much ❤️

@jordywolf162 6 месяцев назад

So, I have a small question for how all of this works. I am looking to maybe add this to my zoo in the future, but what I am curious about is does this count as two habitats? Or since you did use the null barrier does it count as one?