💥 BEGINNER WELDING SERIES - INSTALLING A WELDER OUTLET 

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I'm 74, when I was 12, reading hot rod magazines I saw on the back cover an ad for an arc welder called the FOURWAY arc welder made in Chicago, Illinois. It was $14.95 !! I saved up my money and sent away for it. 9 weeks later it arrived, they weren't very efficient at shipping back in 1959. It was 1 setting 30amps ac. It used 1/16" 6011. I never saw anyone weld so it was all new to me, after I plugged it in to 110 ac. I struck my first arc, and it SCARED THE SH-T !! out of me 😃😃. finally I figured out what to do. I became a welder by the time I was 20. 😃😃. GREAT VIDEO THANKS

Hi Brandon, I just installed 100 Amp service in my garage. I picked up my mig welder from my parents place, along with Dad's arc welder and his small mig. I'm excited to start using them again. When I was teaching welding/millrighting at the college back in 2000 I got into a car accident that really messed me up. Here I am 21 years later back at it, but at 59 I don't have the steam I did back then. It made me feel good inside watching you return to older equipment as I am now. Thank you for that. - Robin

Love your videos Brandon. I’m looking forward to your upcoming welding series. Stay warm!

I have exactly the same machine, but in the 110v version. It can do 100A, with a 20% duty cycle. You can't (shouldn't) run long beads, but for most home shop repairs, it works fine. Just do several short beads instead of one long. You can spread out the heat more. You want smaller electrode sizes, 3/32's, or the more expensive 5/64, or 1/16". The sticks that work on this machine, 6011, 6013, 7014, 7018AC also work for my cheap inverter welder. If the Amazon brand of the month lets me down, I know I can finish the job with the Craftsman (as can my grandchildren and maybe their grandchildren.) These come up at yard sales. Also, if you have the knowlege, may offer a cheap restoration project, if the windings are in good shape. Thanks for bringing this up.

I was happy to see you rotate the receptacle. Takes stress off of the plug and wires and also protects against the possibility of your metal face plate coming loose and falling across your two hot plug terminals.

Brings back memories, thank you.

Great video and thanks for sharing your memories and back story on the old welder and the work its done!

Thank you for the series. Although I have a different 230 or 400 Volts installation, but as to the rules, it is very useful to see what and how.

This is very useful. My friend needs to put in a 220v volt outlet for his Everlast welder.

Thanks Brandon! I’ve been in industry for about a year and this is one of the areas I still am still trying to figure out

I started welding with one of the old sears welders about 40 years ago, these machines were made by Century for Sears and Roebuck. There were many variations of these welders . I have the AC DC type 230 amp rating . Super heavy transformer machine . It served me well for many years and sits in a permanent position on a shelf in my shop still ready for use if needed. the transformer machines seem to be very durable over many , many years. Nice to see one of these machines again , thanks for sharing !!

You answered the breaker mystery I’ve been curious about. Thank you!

Super Instructional video. Well put together. Thanks for the tips. Installing my outlet soon. Have a great Navy day!

Thanks for bringing up the point of the 'weak link' being the extension cord and changing the breaker to a 30a. I'm going to do that also. Very informative video.

Thank you Brandon. Very informative video.

I'm 63 and have just started trying to weld (Harbor Freight 90 amp Flux Core). I purchased a very old Tomb Stone Lincoln Stick welder (red) that I think is AC and I want to try that as well so was watching to learn how to put in a breaker. The guy I purchased the Lincoln from had it since new and was a professional welder. He ran some beads for me to show me how well it worked. I was jaw dropped at the welds he produced on that old Lincoln!

Thanks for your video Brandon .. very professional ciao

Cool video, thanks! A plus to this setup is in a power outage you can throw the main house breaker and use this 240v outlet to hook a generator to your house. This setup worked great for me after Hurricane Sally knocked the power out for a week here in Gulf Coast Alabama. 👍

this was a good video very informative.

Thank you Brandon for the tip. I just bought a 225AC Lincoln welder machine. I notice you use two 30 amp fuses instead of 50 amp fuse.

7018-AC rods work great !!

Way to go brandon good job

good stuff brotha.. thanks!

First! Yaaay welding! And stick welding to boot, which I definitely suck at.

Awesome vid, but I have to say: article 630 of the NEC. Learn it, live it, love it. (It allows much smaller conductors for dedicated welder circuits. You could have used #10 wire throughout and been compliant with code, with a 50A breaker. ONLY IN A DEDICATED WELDER CIRCUIT It's because it's an intermittent load. Google article 630. Love your channel man!

Yah,,,yah suuuuuuurrrrree, let's make sure it's not live before we jam things in there,,,,yahhhhh. Awesome video guy. I think up to this point, the only thing that has stopped me from getting a Harbor Freight cheap combination welder was the fact that quality welding is hard to do on 120. But you just lifted the limitation sir. Thank you. You're not making too many electricians happy though :) .

Looks good man! I like your 30 amp breaker thinking to match the chord as well.

Nice that you admitted installing the outlet upside down! We've all been there.

220/240 is standard juice over here in Euroland so we are kinda lucky there. I plug for 6013s because they can be used on transformers (buzzboxes) or inverters (they can "arc blow" sometimes on inverters but rod angle often reduces that massively), 7018s can be a PITA to restart so I only use em occasionally, be interesting to see how you get on with em on the buzzbox. They are supposed to be kept in an oven blah blah blah, but for home use I just keep mine in the house, I'm not welding any critical stuff. Stick and fluxcore MIG I do outside or by the open shop door with a fan at the bottom end of the shop to push the fumes out.Welding cart for first project?.Now you got all that power, you should be able to charge up your razor :).

I've got what would be that welder older brother... But it needs some serious going through to be consistent. Tried the 7018ac rods and couldn't keep an arc. With new leads and tlc it may do better. I've got several welding projects started but the cold (I know it's not Maine cold but it is Alabama cold) has stalled them for now. Looking forward to this s series...

good video thanks

Great video

Nice. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

I enjoy watching your old videos and came across this one. I spotted something that you need to fix. For a sub panel, the ground and the neutral are NOT to be bonded together. You must remove the green screw that is bonding the ground strap to the neutral bar. I learned this recently when I added a subpanel to my shop. I read it can be an electrocution hazard. I'm not sure I understand it correctly, but my electrician nephew confirmed this for me. Keep up the videos!

You had me at dangerous and illegal

I'm an electrician and I think you did a good job bro. One thing that is really odd is my ex boss at my old job looked like you.

Great Video! A good respirator just as important as a good mask. Health concerns kept me from using a welder earlier in my life. Now I got a small welder and I love it, great for fixing metal things around the house. Maybe build full scale single man helicopter frames. 👍

We called 'em CrackerBox welders. yeah, in a storage unit I've still got the one I fished out of a scrap pile 25 years ago.

Suggestion.....Great Job, one thing maybe look into getting a ground fault breaker for that outlet.

Thank you for an informative video. I was wondering why #6 or#8 wire is used in the panel, but the wire gauge on the extension cord is much lighter. That didn't sound quite right to me.

Thanks for the video Brandon! Did I miss a video where you made those stars that are hanging on the wall? They look great! 👍🏻😉👊🏻

I always put the wire on the breaker before I snap it into the box

One other thing nice makeup in the plug I missed you see how it looked in the panel but if it look like plug good job man and you are 1 billion percent right about having the screws up and down that was a major pet peeve of my old employer and he made we do so much that it drives me nuts to see screws not lined up at all when I walk into a room lol

Watching this video now made me think if I did a good investment buying the 50amp breaker( sold out everywhere, paid almost 3x the price on eBay) still waiting for it.

May be too late now, and it depends on your local code and the distance to whatever is feeding that sub panel, but a main disconnect in that sub panel would be best. Even if that means "back feeding" through a breaker to act as a main disconnect...

For the hots, red/black, does it matter which prong they power? I cant tell which wire went to which prong in the video. I think its black to the shorter one and red to the taller one?

Why not put a 4 prong outlet on instead of 3? I'm looking to make an outlet so I can start welding. Even though my welder only takes 3 I'm tempted to wire the 4 just so I have it.

So I'm curious, I'm a welder not an electrician, but when you turn the power off, do you just flip the main breaker switch or is there another way, also does a house breaker box have to have 240v ran to it from the city or wherever, or is whatever wire the electrician run into the house enough to provide any outlets you may put in

i bought a brand new 220v welding machine with 4mm wire so what is the suitable plug amperage for it?

If that is a sub panel take out the green grounding screw

Im wondering if i can just get a generator and run my welders off that. I wanna get a tig but im also moving to a trailer park soon idk if i can wire a welder in a trailer

I want to plug into my outside hvac electrical box with an extension cord to a 240 volt welder, is this possible?

Hi Brandon I have a question. what kind cable needs for Lincoln welder 225AC Thank you Leopar.

I was wondering about the house breaker amperage needed for welding equipment. Is a 30 Amp breaker all we need? Some of the TIG machines say they are 160 Amp or more and for some reason I thought they needed a breaker that would handle the 160 Amps or more. My home only has a 60 Amp service so I thought I would have to upgrade my house panel box to a 200 Amp service before I ever got a welding machine. I’ve been a production worker on an assembly line operating a MIG welder so I have always wanted a good TIG machine to learn with. The misunderstanding about the needed house breaker Amperage has always been a hold back. So is it true all I need is a 30 Amp breaker?

Can I make a Extension cord an pug it into my dryer outlet which is 220 an just pug it it that an run my lincion acr welder off that ?

Is there a ram ranch on ram mountain?

Can I ask why you used a #/3 wire instead of a #/2 if your not wiring in a 4 prong?

I know this video is about 5 years old, but I’m hoping to make you and anyone who sees this aware that not all outlets have the same safety margin. There is a difference in quality and safety margins when it comes to NEMA 6-50R outlets. I noticed you used a Leviton brand outlet commonly available from Home Depot. Take a close look at the internal contacts in terms of material and size i.e. how much metal comes in contact with the prongs of the plug. Although UL rated, I think you would be surprised how often these overheat and burn up when the plug gets loose in the outlet. We are all familiar with how warm a vacuum cleaner plug gets in a worn socket, same principle here. Both Welders and Electric Vehicle Chargers get cycled routinely, wearing out the receptacle contacts which become loose over time which can cause the outlet to overheat during heavy current flow. In fact certified Tesla Charger Installers will almost always use the Hubbell for this very reason. There are several videos and photos of burnt receptacles to illustrate this phenomenon. I recommend you look at two other brands that I am aware of and visually compare them for your self to Leviton. First and most expensive is the HUBBELL brand available on Amazon. Second and available at Lowe’s is UTILITECH brand. This is almost as heavy duty as the Hubbell brand and much less expensive. You will find they have heavy duty Brass Full Width contacts. Also of note is that these type of receptacles have very specific TORQUE specifications for the internal terminal connections. I have seen on average between 20 and 30 inch pounds, which is much more than your average DIY person would think. If possible use or borrow a Torquing device of some kind that is marked for Inch Pounds. I hope people will see this comment and look into this issue for themselves when installing or replacing NEMA 6-50R outlets. I know I immediately replaced my Leviton with a Hubble (at the time I was unaware of the Lowe’s UTILITECH version). One last note: periodically, it is a good idea to check the torque on the internal terminals, inspect the receptacle for signs of heating, and or loose contacts. The more you cycle that outlet, the more frequently you should inspect it. I check mine at each Daylight Savings change.

I only need to weld few hours, could I plug the welding machine into the oven outlet temporarily?

Real reason to get 240V - if you use 120 you'll be running around 30A over wire/breaker designed for 15 or 20A at most, so not the safest

will that welder since its ac, do aluminum? and if so, what sticks (electroids) would be good?

So the wires don't require a conduit? Is conduit only for exterior runs?

I don't know so I am asking...... Why not purchase 6 AWG wire without a Neutral so just the two power wires and the ground??

7018 AC rods

What do you do if your fuse box has no spare slots?

I gave one of those welders to a friend it went up to 100 amp

is that #6 wire solid or stranded. THHN or UF ?

Okay I just ordered 10/2 wire. Im planning on just using a 140 mig welder, and a 125 stick welder. What breaker and outlet?

Hi Brandon, How did you get those wires into the gang box and the sub panel with the gang box installed?

Like to see you doing that 50amp outlet I do welding most of my life but don't like electrical I'm not afraid of it just annoys me trying to hold small things that's all

🤔 When did they start pushing 230V ?

What would happen if you turned on your 240v welder, but 1 phase of your panel was out & u didn't know, meaning it's only receiving 120v on 1 side correct.? would that cook ur welder...? Just asking because ive had tht issue with my panel where i lost a phase, it only cut off some outlets etc, but if the welder was on when it happened, or i turned it on what would happen.! I'd cry if i wrecked tht welder......Ha -Also... I wired my Dual Volt 160amp Welder Old School Also for 240v Only btw... Only 3 wires, not 4...? 8 gauge... all i could afford, the wire isn't cheap...

Aluminum wire?

Hi please wish breaker can I use Cause I put one 50 it’s not😂work

8:50 AC welding

The "non corrosive stuff" is dielectric grease.

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How much would an electrician charge to install the plug?

Hello, Brandon, Like от меня !!! Пришлось отложить бег и посмотреть твоё новое видео. Меня это тоже ждёт летом, когда поеду в отпуск. Буду тянуть провод от дома в гараж. Там MIG/MAG, MMA , ленточный станок JET -надо обновить проводку ! Хорошее видео, успехов.

Why not just use 3 wire cable to start with?

It looks like you are using aluminum wire, is that right?

Your panel is wired wrong. You have a green screw in panel. That means you neutral and ground are bonded together. Unfortunately that panel isn’t the first means of disconnect. That out by your meter. So have take green ground screw out and float neutral and ground. If you get lightning strike your doomed.

Wait... 😲 WTH!?! How did you stick weld off a 30 amp outlet limitation? Don't those run off 50 - 90 amps on average? 6011 rod in this video I'm sure ran you around 70 amps off your arc welder. How?

Its the machine your protecting. 6/3 wire with 50amp is a must. The cord coming off the welder is sometimes smaller because of the duty cycle and its short length. Also never use aluminum wire to save a few bucks. Using aluminum wire requires you to go up a gauge or two.

I dont understand why you would have a 10 gauge extn cord IF the machine requires more amps than that and then match everything to your weak link. Get rid of your weak link extn cord! You prob have a welder that exceeds entry level ones that draw lower amps rated for 10awg like 30 amps based on you having a long extn cord. So Im guessing you are doing MIG, with a good welder that draws mad amps. The Lincoln Pro Mig 180 lists its amp output at 30-180. So if you doing long runs.. that 30 amp breaker is gonna constantly trip right?

Plugging a 30amp cord into a 50 amp circuit will not burn the cable, using a 60 amp welder on a 30 amp cable will burn. Power is drawn not pushed

Get a extension cord rated for 50Amps = Problem Solved

Let’s go Brandon

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Turn off the light for the pool high voltage hopefully we've not only will this hurt like hell and kill you it will also hurt the entire entire time you're dying LOL don't work on panels hot be fucking smart and go kill it at the main panel if your shop is wired up with a subpanel if your wired up with main panel in your shop even when you kill that main power they lugs coming from the outside are still hot so even if you kill the power be fucking careful I like your video dude you explained that really well especially about the 30 amp wire on a 50-amp breaker you will melt those wires insulation and if you put walls up after you've already push this wire you can start a fire in your walls and burn your whole damn shop down like you said never go up a size breaker that is in your panel unless the wire is rated for it or you pose serious risk of starting fires and your breaker will never trip that's one reason why I quit doing residential is because John Doe backyard electrician sometimes fails to realize that and if I don't catch it whenever they have a service call for some problems that place burns down it's on the person with license and you'll have a hell of a time trying to prove to your States Construction Industries Board that you didn't have anything to do with John Doe shop burning down because you didn't install that wire he did I'm subscribing to your channel because I like the video I have a 230 volt arc welder that was made in the 50s or 60s that I just recently picked up and I was just checking with someone besides myself so I didn't install tube big of a breaker and end up burning up my new to me antique welder

I hope you are not using aluminum wire inside your house.

Illegal? What are there electricity police now

You said You like to hook up all the groundwires and then the neutral But here you are not even using a neutral Why do you add that !! you are going to confuse people