What would be your best suggestion for a beginners book on behavior analysis? I'm a nurse and I have taken a few psychology classes and worked at a foresnsic psychiatric facility, but I also don't want to purchase something that might be way over my head. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I'm totally addiced to channel❤️!
would u guys look into doing Sebastian Burns and Atif Rafay who got life in prison for atif's family's murder (seattle, 1994). There is the confession tape (the mr big undercover cop tape..filmed from across the room but u can see enough of their body language just not the face except for smiling and laughing...but they did several interviews and even Sebastian's speech to the court after sentencing is telling. You would enjoy this one! It's very interesting...they say they are innocent and that they befriended who they thought was a mobster and then got scared cuz he had long hair and talked tough lol the confession tapes on netflix season 1 episode 1 and 2 has the most footage of the confession tape but the more interesting tapes are interviews by the media...lots of red flags.
Please comment on the body language of a person who was innocent and was incorrectly convicted and try to explain why the jury would have not believed the innocent person.
Are you being serious right now? Body language is not evidence nor is it used to convict someone. It’s a TOOL that helps investigators during interrogations, testimony, etc. It’s not “proof” of guilt or innocence but clues to what is going on subconsciously.
As a teacher I have to say that that teacher must have been desperate to get that child help. The teacher was terrified for that child and didn't feel that help was close at the end. And she's going to say that was against protocol come on. I know that teacher was probably heartbroken
CPR!! Absolutely correct as a nurse I have done CPR over a hundred times and we would rotate compressions between 3-4 people every 5-10 minutes. It is physically draining...longest was 1.5 hours because we would get a heart beat back for a minute here and there. Couldn't hardly move or walk for a week after and we rotated every 5-10 minutes.
It was very helpful when you showed stills of the facial expressions while making your comments so that we can visually see you’re referring to. Thank you!
Here’s the one thing I’m noticing - noticing as an artist - her eye shape. The outside of her eyes are higher than most, which makes her appear happy, friendly, and trustworthy. If we only saw her eyes, without knowing her story or anything about her, I think her eye-shape would seriously deceive us (well me for sure). She’s definitely nuts (being technical there 😂)
Yeah she has that Easter bunny face, very friendly looking by default. Imagine having her written by Stephen King or some other horror book author - happy happy joy joy while swinging an axe.
@@Ichneumonxx lol! That’s her, a psycho Easter bunny! Only now I have that Ren & Stimpy song in my head 😫. Missed you in the live (or were you there and I didn’t see? It was a crowd today!). Be well, 💚🙏🍂🎃
Yes, Astrin, it’s true. No matter how many times you hear about it, it NEVER gets easier to take. These poor innocent children, suffering EVERY SINGLE DAY, without anyone to help them. It just destroys me EVERY time. That poor child literally lived with a monster. And there are millions of them around the world. They will all pay, I know that is true.
My heart just breaks for Zahra. An absent birth mother, a negligent father and then to meet true evil: this stepmother. That little girl was failed by EVERYONE who could have helped her. Infuriating and tragic. 💔
I am from the mountains of NC. I know exactly what she was telling her when she did the one shoulder shrug, turned her head, and the corners of her mouth went down. She was saying, oh well, I don’t really care what you think, and, just what are you going to do about it. Where I come from it is a very contemptuous gesture.
I’m so glad you guys are doing this case. I live in Hickory North Carolina and I remember when Zahra went missing. Our community rallied together to find her, and were DEVASTATED when it was announced that it was no longer a search/rescue, it had become a recovery. All of us fell in love with this beautiful brave little girl who met an u speakable end at the hands of a psychopathic pathological liar. We were even more enraged when Zahra’s father wasn’t charged in her murder. The house Zahra was brutally murdered in is still there. I go past it everyday on my way to work. The community came together and raised money to build a park in her name that is handicapped accessible. I take my children there often and we read the plaque that has Zahra’s picture on it , that lets people know who she was. Elisa Baker is EVIL and doesn’t deserve to EVER get out of prison. Rest In Peace with the angels Zahra ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I totally agree with you . It is beyond my compression as to how he wasn't charged. There is no possible way that he wasn't aware of the abuse his daughter was being subjected to. The neighbors didn't even know there was a child living there.
@@abigailfreeman715 no police did not agree he was innocent. they didnt want to mess with prosecuting him because he was there on a visa imo. they sent him back to australia with zahra's ashes
@@JMSPpope I knew some of the law enforcement that worked that murder and they believed he knew more than he was saying, but their hands were tied because they didn’t have enough evidence to convict him. And the Bakers neighbors didn’t even know they had a child, they never saw Zahra outside. There were so many red flags 🚩
@@abigailfreeman715 omg, what a nightmare this is. Poor little girl. I can only imagine what that witch looked like when she was mad, which was all the time. This one really gets me.
I LOVE the editing change that allows us to see the examples you guys are describing. Loved the channel before, but now…whole other level. Thank you! Well done!
Hi Nicola, My 19 year old introvert Nephew and I watched last week's episode .Later he laughed when I joked about calling out his body language different from his baseline. I don't think these Gents know how they've changed the lives of the community of Panalists they created. I'm grateful too. 🕵️💙🕵🏻♂️💙🕵🏼♂️💙🕵🏻♂️
Nicola, sweetheart! 🥰 You are one awesome Mom! Your son is going to be a force with all of this knowledge, and your love and empathy will be a powerful lodestar for him throughout his life. And I second what you said about Chase. That guy is a hero in so many ways! He just keeps giving to the world. Love you, friend, take care of yourself, don’t get too burned out! 💚🙏🤗
@@DawnNY That's amazing Dawn!!❤🥰 so happy to hear that. I don't think they realise how many lives they change for the better but I really hope they do. Love and light to you🙏💛
@@MayimHastings Boo, I just love you to bits, you're awesome. 🙏❤ your beautiful words made me cry. Thank you! I'll try my very best to not burn out. I hope you're okay and thinking of you. You're so strong and manage to stay so positive and kind. You're an inspiration too!💛💫 lots of love my dear friend. Xxx
I love the banter and jokes, ya'll! My husband asked why I watch such dark stuff. I think my brain gets a "social" kind of boost from hanging out and watching. Please never edit out the silly stuff and tangents.
Chase was spot on when he said, 'we're so anxious to diagnose', and that's become even more the case as of late, especially with the younger generations-often with lay people eagerly self-labeling extremely complex personality disorders they know little to nothing about. As someone who works in the criminal mental health arena, I think/say this often. The diagnostic label is mostly unimportant. It's the behaviors and patterns that matter at the end of the day, and how said behaviors effect the disordered person and those with whom they have a relationship.
I don’t care how long you guys take to do your thing on screen. Everything you say is interesting and educational or entertaining. I love your longer episodes. I also love the super short bits which focus on one or two red flags or a cluster of signs. This particular episode is creepy but actually helped me call out some highly dysfunctional behaviour in one of my clients (I’m a psychotherapist). Done the Body Language Tactics course, going through the ellipsis manual now and 6 minute X-Ray, read Scott’s book and now on Mark’s Truth and Lies (love Pease and Navarro books too). You’ve opened my eyes for much improved communication with my clients and we’re getting good results together in a quicker time frame. Excellent for getting on with life confidently. Thanks guys - take care and please keep on with this format.
I watched all the way to, "I morsed and then I re-morsed" Chase you made me laughed. Thank you for a little anxiety relief even in this horrible example. Poor child!
Good job! As always, you're welcome. Also, I am always looking forward to being educated, but I appreciate the gentle reminder! My memory will, someday, not serve me as desired so such a "reminder" will mean an even greater level of appreciation! Merkee burcoow.
I really enjoy the friendship you four have & the way you play off each other. It makes these wild & sick stories a little lighter. I am definitely learning a lot from each of your insights. Thank you. Chris in Texas
My friend was around Eliza Baker two times as we live in Hickory. His words were, pure evil . He had to leave the room to get away from her . Zahra was a very sweet child and was very quiet. There were numerous calls made to CPS and nothing was ever followed up on . Truly a very vile and evil monster. I’m glad you guys are covering this . This case was not handled properly or she would not have been given a plea deal at all.
With regards to parenthood. I worked in operating theatres for a long time. I once had a patient, she was over a hundred years old and, although she had knees and hip problems, upstairs she was fresh as a cucumber. So I did the usual question to someone of her years "what's your secret" her answer was: "you have to choose your parents very carefully". Thanks for that guys. Fascinating. When are you going to do BOJO!
That moment when she says "and I treated her...(deep breath), better than my own children" was terrifying. The expression on her face at the moment she took that breath ...run
Another brilliant session. Love it when you show the video clips explaining what you are seeing, as I sometimes don't always catch every expression. Love the wonderful relationships you guys have the laughter and banter...very addictive
I'm so excited! Just watched Scott on the side bar with Viva Frei and he was awesome. Amazing to hear he has so many great memories with his Dad. Robert and Billy started all of this.😊 Hope you managed to keep those recordings Scott! 😂😂😂
I love this interviewer! She’s a pitbull! It seems Elisa is not used to people calling her out on her bvllsh!t. And there’s not a damn thing she can do about it. This is great!!❤❤❤
Chase, she's no "Karen" that's Liz Hayes 60 minutes Australia I love her. I'm a Georgia born & bread country girl but when I'm not watching Behavior Panel I'm watching 60 minutes Australia she's one of my fav's!
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I live in the town where this happened. There's no way her husband and Zahra's father did not know what was going on and he is just as culpable. They are the lowest form of life. I confronted the father when he was packing up to go back to Australia. He ignored my questions. HOW IS HE FREE AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF ABUSE??!?!?!?
"We're nothing but two-year-olds covered in hair and scars." -Greg Hartley Absolutely, hands-down one of the most brilliant, hilarious and true remarks I've ever heard!! Bravo, sir!!
Maybe it's because I'm from the UK..but I really enjoy Mark's responses as he manages to not only make some valid points but he also does it with a dash of humour very tastefully done..especially with the down right awfulness of this murder .
I love this interviewer i watch 60 minutes and she is just relentlessly dead pan, she normally doesn't give an inch I'm surprised she let some questions go unanswered at the beginning but she's easy about asking sharp stabby questions.
Scott: Nobody is watching this far into the video. Me: I can't stop watching until I hear Columbo at the very end. Who else listens for Columbo before they can leave?
That's gold. It's a huge compliment (just my opinion) for our countrymen n women to be compared with Greg 😉 every time I hear him I find myself reflecting on the quality of his communication style. It's interesting that jokes are offered about him having "one feeling" as I find him to be one of the most "heart centred gentlemen" for want of a better description -, a truly authentic, perhaps integrated man of integrity he seems to me . So refreshingly genuine. I would say all of you gentlemen would be so very welcome to teach your skills here in Australia for sure. I definitely welcome the panel virtually into my home in noosa with enthusiasm as often as I can. Thankyou so much for all you guys do for us and also for all the giggles 😃
I have 40+ years as emergency physician. Did hundreds of CPRs. I NEVER one time in my life said: "I worked on someone for x minutes" ot heard someone saying that. Thats out of a bad movie.
It is deeply appreciated that you show a clip as an example of what someone is talking about. That is very helpful. It must be a lot more work, but it makes such a difference. Thank you for that.
Hi guys, my hubby and I are avid panelists and live here in Australia. Just so you know Greg we would love it if you and Mark, Scott and Chase would come to Australia…host a show for us in Brisbane, Sunny Queensland. As for no patience - while Mark is spot on, it’s only because we don’t suffer fools very well. We’d rather go to the beach and have a beer with friends actually. Keep those videos coming. We love your insights…Carol 😊
Greg When are you moving to Australia we would love to have you. As Mark was hinting low bull sh*t tolerance here. Thanks for this one guys terrific master class again
It’s really fascinating watching you four dissect people in this way. I feel like it gives me more tools in identifying dangerous/deceptive people “in the wild,” as Scott puts it lol. That instinctive feeling he mentioned is one that I’ve sometimes miscalculated in myself as being judgmental or paranoid. I’ll trust it more from now on!!
Horrendous cruel barbaric acts committed against Zahra. And the woman that did it gets the full protection of the law + in-house protection by prison staff, 3 square meals a day and a bed. She gets way more than Zahra got 😡
Today I learned the chaff in "chaff and redirect" is not a reference to winnowing grain. I love that the analogy works perfectly well in either case. Kudos for "re-morse". Love watching you guys work!
You guys are so funny. I love watching the behavior panel. I worked as a corrections officer for 25 years and after the things you see and hear you have to have a dark sense of humor.
I agree with Greg, she relies on her 'cutsie' faking, but underneath she's a jealous hand grenade. Zahra was a stunningly beautiful and intelligent child - momma liked how dad put Zahra first? I think not. The icing came with 'My kids were jealous...' to redirect the tangible resentment in her manner.
I soo agree with Scott that this woman never performed CPR for 30 minutes. I am a health care professional and after even 5 minutes (alone) it is exhausting that is why you call 911 first thing!!!
I was un-nerved by how much I was sucked in by her “innocent” face at the beginning. Years ago I was in a relationship with a guy who lied to me and told me he was dying of cancer to get me to stay with him. I really wish the behaviour panel had been available to me then! The information you share is invaluable.
You guys are so intuitive. I just LOVE this stuff. My own behavior is quite questionable. I'm scared of myself now. Going to the doc to figure it out; thanks to you all.
I made it till the end Scott! Lol took me 2 days. I find it hard to stop watching in the middle of an episode. Love you 4 together! Hoping Greg will teach us remores code! 🤣
Hey as an Aussie i can say we will happily accept Greg. Also as an aussie thank you for covering this case ! I wasnt too much older than Zahra myself when this happened. It breaks my heart to think of all the life experiences she has missed out on and discovering the person she was going to be as an adult. 😢
Mark Bowden is such a sweetheart and it’s fun to see you other three enjoy and appreciate his delightful and flamboyant way of expressing himself. As to ‘living her truth’ ~ is this not External locus of control Mark?
Interesting how Chase explains that the double shoulder shrug, in America, is like an apology. In Australia, it's like saying "I make no apology for what I just said/did". Easy to see how culture clashes can happen.
It pains me to say this,but the less I see of you four talking about what you see and showing the subject while you share your observations the more I learn. I am still such a beginner. I adore this channel. The life lessons at the end are great. Mr Hughes I love how you explain how to apply what we are learning. Thanks again
To Greg: when you say that “people know who they are, they don’t need to find the words” - this is what I disagree. When people ask me to define me, then I find it very difficult to answer (even if I have prepared for the interview for example or meeting somebody for a first time). For me it’s very difficult to describe myself to others, and somebody asking that question would time and time again, make me go back and search who I am at that moment. I do believe (or I hope), I’m the only one 😃 That doesn’t mean I feel sympathy for that woman for what she has done though, no matter what’s your childhood, everybody make their decisions which direction to go, even if you have been badly abused as a child 😞 Love your channel guys, my favorite! 😘
I wonder if you guys will do Darrell Brooks (Kenosha Xmas parade) and Judge Jenifer Darow. i think she really triggered him by treating him as a difficult child, with great patience. "treating me like child", "I'm a grown man", "ain't nobody tells me what to do", "How come you can do what you want and I can't?" or words to that effect.
I really respect the opinion of these professionals! In one video Mark talks about Stanislavskij (in another video) , having studied that acting technique myself it was greatly appreciated! I love your grammar lessons, I think America really needs to hear them and take copious notes. Also, you can use these skills in ANYTHING! Keep it coming boys, great content!
Y’all four are excellent professors! It has occurred to me that I have learned a great deal from my year and a half of listening/watching. You have enriched me and have my gratitude!
Liz Hayes can be a brutal interviewer, With her straight up, upfront attitude with no tolerance for BS.. Luved how she made her squirm with questions and the glare's she got.. 😊
I love what Chase said about labeling! Greg really knows this type well. Everything he said about lying and not being accountable is spot on. My parents are so much like her. And they are brawlers! Getting into crazy fights everywhere! Thank God I am still alive....
Been watching you guys since you started, and just want to praise you and all of your videos. Thank you so much for the regular content and amazing quality, too. Always a joy to watch you 😊 x
It's also astounding that she thinks this is a good thing. Or thinks we'll think it's a good thing - that she treated another kid better to the point of jealousy of the others
Okay first off… I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! I just discovered your show last night and have watch six two hour long episodes already lol I’m OBSESSED with true crime and it’s awesome to have you all give a completely different perspective that most of us don't see on the surface. Secondly, I love her!! TG for RU-vid because I couldn’t watch her without it since it’s from Australia, but she’s amazing. She always gets to that perfect RBF look towards the end and you can tell she’s just done with the BS. On the flip side, when she’s interviewing a victim of something, she so compassionate and comforting. You guys are awesome and I’m now a lifer!! Thank you!! ❤❤
Ive listened to a few podcasts and watched a few interviews/documentaries. This case is a very tough pill to swallow. Zahra was such a beautiful soul an already endured so much in her short 10 years. I have very and many strong opinions on this case. I wonder if they have any clips on her dad? I'd love to hear about him too. I'm from AUS so hello from here. Island state of Tasmania. ( They forget us off most maps!) I tell my partner whenever I watch you guys headphones on tablet on a stick." I'm hanging with my four favourite lads again."
Regarding the "yes ma'am"s, that may just be the southern in her. We moved to Arkansas when my son was 10 and I was 40. It's been 7 years now and "yes sir, yes ma'am" is automatic when my son speaks to most people older than him. I grew up in the Midwest and doubt it'll ever feel natural for me to speak that way, but I see it here in most people's normal speaking patterns. 🤷
In my opinion, i think shes a sociopath and knows exactly how to mimic emotions really well in order to get what she wants. The smiles, the sadness, brightness in her eyes etc. She’s been in more than enough situations, married to more than enough people in order to be able to do this so well. Even at her worst, she is still trying to get the interviewer/viewers to see her how she wants them to see her.
It always surprises me when Scott doesn't have faith in the videos 😂 we do watch them all the way to the end!!! Maybe not in one sitting 😂😂😂 but I watch while I do chores too! Hahaha
