🔪 Wicked Edge Killer? - Tormek T-4 Bushcraft 

Sun the general Thank you sir

+180 Second Ideas Thanks man

Yea... I just bought an older Tormek to replace a belt sander I was using. It didn't come with the knife holder... picking one up today from Lee Valley.

Thanks man

+Thomas Walsh Thanks man

Yeah I've noticed that with the work sharp stuff, it's fast and easy but I would not use it on an expensive knife

Just ordered the Japanese stone for the T4. Stay tuned for an update. Thanks for watching.

Victor Jimenez A true Full Flat grind might need shimming. All other grinds are no issue though.

Might you sell me your old wicked edge? I can’t afford a tormek just yet.

Nice. Great price. Thanks for watching.

Post Script, my 17 year old son could show you how to properly sharpen a knife because I took the time to show him, good sir.

I agree, it's a shame many leaving comments here don't appreciate that. How they think it is comparable with a bench grinder I don't know. The fact is it is always cheaper in the long run to buy quality tools. If you can't afford new, fair enough, just look on eBay for a used machine. Such is the quality it wouldn't bother me if the machine was years old, as long as there was a decent stone attached. The $200 a used machine would cost doesn't buy many sanding belts, and only two decent waterstones.

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honestly, with a knife that nice, I would recommend the T8 AND the Japanese waterstone. That’s a hefty purchase, but trust me, it puts amazing edges on blades. They also make a Japanese stone for the T4, if you wanna save a few hundred bucks.

@@HarleyWood23 Thank you! Will do! Thank you again for sharing your thoughts....

MrSlicer2424 I had not heard of that. I just checked it out briefly and it’s very similar to this. I can’t find any reviews of it though and nothing about where it’s made or the warranty. The Tormek is built like a tank with a great warranty. If you go with the Vevor, maybe see if you can find some trustworthy reviews first

Thanks man. Appreciate the support. You’ll never regret the T8. 👍🏻

Hey, I have the T4 with the japanese grit 4000 stone. It works! Use the marking of the edge to make sure, you have the same angle, in that way you polish the edge shaving-sharp (My SG 200 is a little smaller than the Japanese cause of more use)

t k Strange. I think it excels at smaller blades. It struggles with any blades longer than about 6” because the stone and leather wheels aren’t very far apart. The T4 handles small blades easily.

@@HarleyWood23 Thank you sir.

That was one of the first things I noticed, the wheels are too close together. You would have to remove the grinding wheel to use the buffing wheel on even a moderately large chef's knife!

Either a Wicked Edge Gen 3 Pro, or the Tormek T2 if you want something faster. The T2 is specifically designed for kitchen applications.

@@HarleyWood23 Thanks for the reply & 4 the video!

It's not for you. The Tormek excels at giving a good factory edge quickly. If you're after mirror edges use your stones, and time.

Hello texbaz2! If you mean like "the height of the bevel" when you look at the knife straight from the side, then it's just a matter of geometrics, I'm afraid... The thickness of the blade and the angle at which you decide to sharpen your knife is what determines "the size of the sharpened edge", as you say. The smaller the angle in degrees, the higher/broader the bevel on one said, specific blade. And the other way around of course with a bigger angle. So on one specific knife of yours, the only thing (my personal opinion) that should determine the angle is the combination of steel properties, blade geometry and intended use. If your main worry (not saying it is) is the look of the knife, then you might have to go with an angle that is too big/blunt (just to keep a narrow bevel) to fully suite your practical needs. Between a Tormek or the Wicked Edge, the main difference (when Speaking about removing steel from the blade itself) is that the Tormek gives you a concave grind (because the wheel is round and there for "hollows" the edge) and the Wicked Edge gives you a (more or less) 100% flat grind. I have a Tormek T-4 that I have owned for 12-13 years now. It serves me well, but I do not like it for all purposes. In my own personal opinion, it works well for wood working-tools and heavier knives/axes (axes are done free hand), but for thin, japanese chefs knives I get an every bit as sharp and longer lasting edge by using my japanese water stones free hand. I believe those types of edges just benefits more from a flat or convex grind, because of their extremely thin nature. Regarding the knife in the video: It has what we call a "Scandinavian grind". Very common where I live here in Sweden/Scandinavia. Basically it just has one VERY high/broad bevel that runs all the way down and forms the edge in one continuous angle. Cons? Thin edge is prone to chipping if heavily used. Pros? EXTREMELY easy to sharpen in the field, thanks to the flat, wide area to rest you desired sharpening-medium on. The steel in the Mora knives generally comes from Sandvik and is fairly soft/flexible , so it holds up pretty well. But be prepared to sharpen it regularly. From my part, I have never sharpened a scandi grind on my Tormek and probably never will. The edge will get very thin because of the concave grind. But I do strop them on the Tormek (as I am a quite lazy guy from time to time)! I hope that clears a few things up, and feel fre to ask me if you have more questions. / Peter from Sweden

Usually it takes effort to remove a convex bring, concave grinder is a selling point.

Danny Barton YeH man. That’s what people don’t understand. They bitch about the price of this, and advocate for things like the WorkSharp, but fail to realize how many knives they can sharpen in a Tormek. They’ll spend WELL over $1,000 buying replacement motors and WS belt kits, to sharpen as many knives as you can on the Tormek. Thanks for watching. Here’s my complete Tormek playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL9IS7xPfI3_JQlM0Nr3MzoxyUtxPKhuoT

I'm guessing you could take the stone off and run just the strop, but maybe I'm wrong on that.

Unfortunately you can run it with the stone removed. The drive shaft power the strip side and the stone. If you take the stone off, the drive shaft is loose and can pull out the other side. Now if you removed the stone and put a small wood block in its place, that would work. Not a bad idea for another video actually.

@@HarleyWood23 I thought you could just use the packing sleeve that came with the unit? Ie just remove the stone, put the packing sleeve on, tighten the nut and run it?

forrest You’re welcome. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. I just got the diamond stone for my T8. Video coming soon. Stay tuned.

any chance you could sharpen some of the more exotic steels out there. just want to see if the lack of the black stone is really a big deal. really just cant wait for more tormek videos. keep them coming. i love your videos. The diamond stone video is going to be sick, cant wait.

@Ferd Dorst No, but considering your response, one would have to assume that you are.

Josh Dumatrait I bought mine 1 month ago and it did not come with the mora knife.

@@jimmiewood4071 Got mine today. Same here, no knife...was kinda disappointed. Also, I found no reference to it on the Tormek webpage, the Amazon description or the included documentation.

Josh Dumatrait Maybe the knife got packed in by mistake and Harley won the lottery.

Yes, unlike the Lansky type systems. Unless you want to reclamp longer blades the tip section will always be a different angle .

Based on what you described, get the Tormek. It’s so much faster. I can sharpen three of my wife’s most used Kitchen knives, in about 30 min

@@HarleyWood23 Thanks again and sharpening the kitchen knives is on the list too. You sold me on the T-4.

horatio71 Have you seen my video on the Japanese stone? That thing will change your life. Lol. I’m reviewing the Hapstone M2 right now. That video should post this weekend. Subscribe to be notified. Thanks for watching.

@@HarleyWood23 yes I just watched it. Great video. I have never used the Japanese stone and currently still feel that the standard stone with the leather polishing wheel works brilliantly. Next year I will start a bit of timber framing and use my chisels quite a lot and therefore might be tempted to get it after all. In you video you mention it is a game changer. We'll see if I get sufficiently tempted ;-). All the best from London, John

@@horatio71 thanks John. Appreciate you watching.

I usually recommend the T-8 for larger knives. The wheels being further apart makes those a little easier. The T-8 and T-4 can both put a razor edge on a blade, and the Japanese waterstone wheel is a massive upgrade, if you don’t mind a little extra cost. Here’s my video on that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2VFCNxqVR3Q.html

it's the SG-250. Has a maximum grit of 1,000

박용일 I think that’s a good option as well. The belts aren’t terribly expensive, but they also don’t last long. I’d be curious how much you’d spend on belts over time, to sharpen several hundred knives like you can on a Tormek.

+Ben Spalding Not if you tighten it down properly. My fault.

Michael Fortney I never stand behind mine. I’m not sure their reasoning...other than maybe it’s easier for them to demonstrate it that way.

They made the machine and offer their best way of sharpening. Some blades cannot be sharpened against the stone. Hand sharpening chisels on a square stone for example involves running the blade both ways (pushing/pulling) anyway. They are experts sharing their sharpening techniques; up to you follow or not.

I sharpen s30v on it with no problem. I don’t have any blades from s110v, but I can’t see why it wouldn’t work, especially if you got the diamond wheel. I reviewed that also. Check out my knife sharpener playlist.

@@HarleyWood23 Will do. Thank you very much.