🗝️| Why words matter when it comes to papal primacy and infallibility 

Religious indifferentism is a heresy.

​@@thomasmorrell2737And that's why they're working on it, the devil of course will go against the will of God 😊 But nevermind, it has no power other than trolling around. 🕊😄👍🏻

Amen.

The stumbling block here is you who do not accept the Vatican II 😄👍🏻

@@ValAllOver I don't? I didn't know that. How did you know that? 😂

@@georgeabhayoic We pass the 1st Vatican Council. Just like we pass the times of Moses, the Old Testament. Be a good host to your guests who are here for dialogue and not confrontation. There are good things that the Anglos did and do apart from the bad. We need to give them the credit that they deserve.

@@ValAllOver Good things are not the criteria for communion. TRUTH is. It was the Anglicans who broke communion with the Roman Church. Hence, it is them who need to correct the deviations. We are not playing hosts and guests here. We had not kicked them out in the first place. They went away. With the orthodox the matter is different. They have the true faith. They have valid orders. Anglicans do not have either.

@@ValAllOver By the way, what do you mean we pass the times of Vat 1 like the Old Testament? Do you mean they are irrelevant? Have you read the Vatican Document Dei Verbum? It seems that you don't accept the document's declarations, which means that you are denying Vat 2... Oh no!!!!

All orthodox do but not the pope

Saint Peter had the keys, they make quite a difference

Papal Primacy is based on St. Peter being the Prince of the Apostles, not solely having the dignitary title of first among equals my friend :)

@@johnf6002 the point goes back to Pope John Paul2 who said to find ways to make the Papacy acceptable to the rest to further ecumenism.

@@Abraham-uk4xy one cannot reverse the councils, which highlight the Pope’s infallibility and supremacy. If a pope does this, he’s a heretic.

Francis recognises Anglicans as having valid holy orders, contra Leo XIII.

@@thomasmorrell2737how and when?

@@thomasmorrell2737 I'm not sure he does. And even if he did, it wouldn't make it true. The Church has spoken on the matter, Francis' will is not law nor truth.

we can have union without compromising the truth. Church of England is loosing more people on the ground, and the Catholic Church is flourishing. So, there is no need to adjusting the definitions, specially the youth are learning the Catholic faith through social media and other channels, so substantially there is no need of such change. At the time of Jesus there are sectarian groups so.

Well that’s why we are trying to fix it

People who critisise the Pope and the Church in this way..does not have the Spirit within them. This is not the joy of the Gospel

Sedevacantism is a heresy.

@@declanburke861 The joy of the Gospel for Catholics is that the Holy Ghost has not abandoned the laity. Bergoglio would like to believe he and only he has the Holy Ghost within him. The Gospel contradicts him.

@@andrewangelopacheco9960 It's really disrespectful to refer to the Holy Father by Surname. Historically, people who are on the wrong side of the Pope are on the wrong side. It sounds like you need some spiritual guidance from someone humble. The joy of the Gospel overflows from the person even when suffering. People who go about criticising this Bishop and this doctrine are not usually joyful.

This is interesting to me as a Protestant interested in ecumenism. You seem to be a hardliner seeking to preserve papal infallibility and the Pope’s absolute authority over the church, yet seem to have no respect for the Pope or his authority. So are you *protesting* against what the Pope is doing and teaching? Will you go against his teachings if he pronounces something ex cathedra?

•Jesus said His Flesh is True food and His Blood is true drink (John 6:55) •Jesus is The Bread of Life (John 6:35) •Jesus said do this in remembrance of me, referring to bread and wine (Luke 22:19) •As OFTEN as you drink it (1 Corinthians 11:26) Catholics do not contradict The Bible that we put together in the first place. Maybe try reaching out to those who are actually against Christ, not your own brothers and sisters in the faith.

@@dh441 The RCC does not teach that the mass is a remembrance of CHRIST. They teach that it is an unbloody sacrifice of CHRIST over and over again in HIS real presence, real blood, and real body. This denies that CHRIST came in the flesh and was already sacrificed for all sin on a real cross shedding HIS real blood and giving HIS real body. 1 John 4:1 KJV "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of GOD: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby you know the SPIRIT of GOD: Every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST is come IN THE FLESH is of GOD: 3 and every spirit that confesses not that JESUS CHRIST is come in the flesh is not of GOD: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." Note: GOD was manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16 KJV) as the SON of GOD, JESUS CHRIST, to shed HIS real blood and give HIS real body on a real cross once for the forgiveness of all sins for whosoever believes. (Hebrews KJV chapters 9 and 10.) In complete contradiction to this, the RCC teaches that CHRIST comes in a wafer as often as a priest pleases. Also note: John 8:12 KJV "Then spoke JESUS again unto them, saying, I am the LIGHT of the World John 10:9 KJV "I am the DOOR: by ME if any man enter in, he shall be saved..... John 10:11 KJV "I am the GOOD SHEPHERD: the Good Shepherd gives his life for the sheep." John 15:1 KJV "I am the true VINE, and my FATHER is the husbandman." Was CHRIST a physical Light, Door, Good Shepherd, a Vine like you make the bread and the wine to become??? No, HE was spiritually those things as CHRIST concluded in John 6:63 KJV "It is the SPIRIT that quickens (gives eternal life); the flesh profits nothing (flesh means physical works of any sort in a physical world): the WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE." (CHRIST says HIS WORDS have spiritual meanings NOT physical meanings and are spiritually discerned and give SPIRITUAL LIFE which is FOREVER. If you cannot see Him in a wafer, or taste Him, or swallow Him then you have no faith in Him. If you cannot see a physical palace in Rome, stained glass windows, images, relics, works, and so forth then you have no faith in CHRIST.