0 cycle in disguise | 4* only, MoC 12 | Honkai: Star rail 

gepard is hitting his two sisters in this fight. it's the landau family squabble ft. two people from the xianzhou

She is doing it every patch. 😅

@@KamenNepper two ppl from xianzhou?

@@mvi_lab tru

@@umaranidas174 tingyun and hanya on serval's team

No

Get two copies of S5 DanceDanceDance, get a shitton of crazy good relics, it will get easier from there

Yes. We all were Newby at the start.

Skill issue in pve. It doesnt exist

**Senate Look** Not from a whale.

True

to this day, I do not own a single copy of DDD or Good night sleep well, and untlil three months ago I also did not own a single copy of resolution shines, until black swan banner, where i got S4 Resolution, then I got the S5 at random on Fu xuan rerun.

Haha sure buddy, E6 4stars are much more expensive to get than E0 5stars. This aint workin for F2P. Better to get E0 5stars.

@@Zerocyxone9 and the double s5 ddd too

​@@Zerocyxone9yeah I agree, you basically need to pull on seperate banners with that 4 star 2-4 times depending on your luck while pulling for a limited 5 star to get them to e6 with the way that chances work Realistically also most people do have a few limited 5 stars at E0 If anything rn its more impressive to clear without the meta supports for 0 cycle (Ruan Mei, Robin, Sparkle, Bronya, Tingyun)

​@@Zerocyxone9 in f2p and i have lots of e6 4 stars.

@@spinylightgaming if you played since beginning yes. but for new players nope. its bad to invest on e6 4stars or to chase after it. its better to get E0 5stars.

Using old 4* characters for fresh expirience is the reason to make such challenges.

11:37 what no atk and damage buff does to a MF: really shows how supports really are the name of the game. edit: nvm i'm stupid she just didn't proc sword stance, I just got shocked by the 10k crit.

I thought about it. But how could I abandon my Serval? Loli vs. Woman. The answer is obvious. I'm also not sure that using single target dps is a good idea there. There are two elites, not one boss.

Btw, how is it going on your side? Did you try?

@@mvi_lab interesting logic. I did one attempt, can't even survive on the first half, will try again later. I would add Ratio if I can't 3 stars, also leveling up the solitary healing lc for Luka

@@WeiForever good luck!

@mariengrad1732 without second DDD it was also 5 cycles for me.

Thank you!

u probably dont have 10 copies of ddd

This sounds like speed rolls issue. I shaved off 3 cycles, when gave Acheron’s supports (Pela and sw) 161 speed and gave two copies of my s5 ddd to sparkle and Tingyun on DHIL’s side. Both ting and sparkle also above 161 speed. I know how hard to get specific rolls on relics and 10 ddd is pure luck. But faster characters make soooo much difference. I literally went from 22 cycles remaining to 25 and my DHIL and Acheron dealt the exact same dmg.

@@user-wf5jm2nc1h look back at it I think your right. I generally just have bad luck with speed rolls in general and can’t seem to get any character above 156 speed without taking pieces off others that need their speed as well. Despite playing since launch, speed substats just don’t want to come to me. I don’t have s5 ddd 😂, only s1 (have another). I feel like I just has bad runs where my sparkle was hit and action delayed a lot (156spd), which means my DHIL couldn’t go a lot.

@@mp9104 Yea, when a certain stat doesn’t like you, it sucks. Mine cursed stat is BE. I can’t build Ruan Mei till this day 😭. And I want Boothill or FF (haven’t decided yet) and they both need BE. I have only one piece that has more that 20% be on it. And all of my speedy be pieces are on Ruan Mei:(

Upgrade traces, max out your lightcones and walk into relic hell with the rest of us.

4* DPS with cracked relic will beat 5star DPS with shit relics any day

Multiple copies of Dance x3 also help. Turn manipulation can surpass 5* lc if use wisely.

www.youtube.com/@mvi22 Next will be with 5*s on 1 month old f2p account.

To be honest this moc blessing is pretty strong. Thou u will need to ensure 6 total damaging attacks for each cycle to get 6 Memory imprint stacks to get 25% energy (it can store overflow). Stack reset beginning of each cycle. Each stack also increase dmg dealt. U can time ur big dmg ult like archeron after u get gud amount of memory imprint stack. If u unable to get that 25% energy every cycle. Pretty much u will lose quite a big chunk of dmg and survivability.

Boothill bout to replace one of them

Tbf, if you see something close on my channel, this only means I didn't test and optimize it further. 3* are the point to stop for me. But you are right, I wouldn't even compare these games in terms of difficulty. :)

I also didn't notice it until I noticed it.

Same. I had to revisit some of my 4*. Break Luka was what did it for me. Having him break and having him proc multiple times made up for my loss in damage from poor artifacts.

Dont worry. This MoC is really hard. I had to use double ddd cheat code.

Pioneer would help to clear faster. O was missing some percentages without second DDD.

@@mvi_lab Do you change team comp to Pela& Tingyun instead if you have pioneer?

@@Mocchi- most likely. Or, maybe, Guinaifen.

Sorry, usually 1 MoC - 1 run. Now I need to figure out how to do it on my 1 month f2p account. Oh, there will be Guinaifen.

There were new vedeos on my second channel...

My Sparkle is waiting for this.

Let's see how long it will take me on my new f2p account.

There is a limit for enhanced attacks. So, I have to use his skill from time to time. But as far as I remember, I could use one more basic here instead of skill.

Yes, Pioneer would be better.

1. As I said, this run required a lot of hit fishing. So yet, it is rng to not get the wrong control. But if I used 5* characters with more damage, I would use March. She is much more reliable than any healer, especially in fast runs (100+ EHR required).

Aventurine is a very strong sustain. I have him on my f2p account. Will test him in the second half next. It should be much easier. Silverwolf was my first breaker. I even bought her E2 to apply entanglement on bosses. I would try SW, Aventurine, HMC, Sushang, with SW breaker and quantum break on everybody. Be sure you break the enemies in the middle of their turn with SW's ultimate to reduce dmg and extend cc duration.

Huohuo is also disgusting at dispelling debuffs if you have her

@@Tragic_Hooway Huohuo is the most useful sustain so far.

Bc I did the second half with break Luka (premium team) consist of Luka/Bronya/Robin/Aven

I can still proc it after enemie is recovered. Give me a timecode, and I will explain my thoughts.

True

Because skillpoints are limited.

It is not luck. It is S5 Black Swan.

@@mvi_lab 💀💀💀☠️☠️

No, my dot team: Kafka, BS, RM, Sparkle. HMC can give nothing since enemies die before being broken. If you know my dot team, you should know it. If you don't know my dot team - how do you know I have Kafka and Black Svan? 🤔

Serval + relics + supports

What do you mean?

Fortunately, it was in BS banner.

Check description.

Depends on what cost means for you. Description.

@@mvi_lab if i dont have dots should i just live in genius/guard?

@3setsofdrums I wouldn't. But again, it depends on you and your account. Pioneer is better than Genius, but not for everyone. Eagle/Ice are good. Build your favorite characters. If your characters can use Pioneer, better live there.

​​@@mvi_lab after reading pioneer set bonuses, it is absolutely better than quantum. but i still think quantum is more future proof (for me, a completely fresh player with no 5*'s but bronya) since def shred affects pretty much any source of damage in the game. i've heard of the crazy substats people roll on guard pieces too (is it actually a thing, that weaker sets have better substats?) my gut still tells me to live in quantum, since watchmaker is such a niche support set that sticking to guard might be safer (i plan to avoid break meta since i missed ruan mei). am i overestimating guard set too much? im also considering farming both hackerspace and pioneer domain, but my gut tells me it's going to be really stamina inefficient because i'm essentially farming both of those domains at 50% efficiency (blade and penacony are a bit too niche). what's your take on this combo especially for future proofing? i've also decided to farm world 3 in su, since world 7 set requirements are too steep, and world 8 truthfully might be a world of pain to farm and the set bonuses are also a bit niche. i think world 3 is best for future proofing and has the most, although lacking in value ceiling, universal sets (dunno why people are trashing it). iirc you also farm world 3 or used to, and it's kind of a source of reassurance to me. good substats are much better than barely advantageous and much stricter set bonuses, and it's good to know that i'm farming relics at 100% efficiency. (also i love how the quantum and guard sets look they're so clean) hope you have an answer for some of my confusions 😄

​@@mvi_lab pioneer is absolutely insane and i think it has more value than quantum set. still skeptical about break effect set tho. maybe i build harmony trailblazer and roll for firefly, is that good (since i missed ratio, LMFAO). if so i could actually live in pioneer cavern, my serval's gonna love it

Sorry, not this time. I'm busy. :(

Someone had to say it. 🤓