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The first recorded account of two aircraft engaging in aerial combat occurred in late November 1913 during the Mexican Revolution. The pilots, both American ‘soldiers of fortune’ on opposing sides of the conflict, engaged each other (unsuccessfully) with handheld pistols in otherwise unarmed aircraft.
The gun-and soon after, the cannon-quickly became the primary weapon for air-to-air “dogfighting” and was incorporated in various calibers and locations into virtually all combat aircraft for the next 50 years, through two world wars and numerous armed conflicts. Until the advent of the air-to-air missile, the gunfighters ruled the skies.
On this episode, retired US Navy Commander Jerry “Turkey” Tucker joins us to discuss the “last of the gunfighters,” the Vought F-8 Crusader. Designed as a supersonic dogfighter, the Crusader ushered in the era of A/A missiles and, indeed, most of its kills in the Vietnam conflict were achieved with early versions of the AIM-9 Sidewinder. Turkey regales us not just with what it was like to fly and fight the Crusader but the many other aircraft he flew, including the F-4 Phantom II and A-4 Skyhawk as a two-time demonstration pilot for the US Navy Blue Angels.
Due to the length of the interview, no listener questions are addressed on this episode. For those craving a second helping of Turkey, another serving can be found on our Patreon page where edited parts of the interview are available as bonus content.
Episode artwork by Janek Krause. Bumper music by Jaime Lopez / announcements by Clint Bell.

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@MattWagner
@MattWagner 5 лет назад
Would love to do the F-8 for DCS someday.
@braeddie
@braeddie 5 лет назад
But Wags... Magnitude LLC has been teasing us some...
@DAPA8484
@DAPA8484 5 лет назад
I'll know when I see you say in a video "Hey....I wonder what that F-8 is doing there?" :D
@USNRaptor
@USNRaptor 5 лет назад
You can do the F-8 right now by installing Jane's Fighters Anthology, then come to my website to add the 'usnraptor playset'. myplace.frontier.com/~usnraptor/ If I remember correctly, I have "Turkey's" mission built into my Linebacker Campaign.
@brycedahlke9078
@brycedahlke9078 5 лет назад
Strike fighters 2 my guy. Not as detailed as dcs but very fun imo. Underrated game
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 5 лет назад
A version of Strike Fighters 2 (an amazing but underrated air combat game) has one
@BlueAngelPhantoms
@BlueAngelPhantoms 5 лет назад
I could listen to Turkey's stories all day. Such a humble man and someone I consider a role model. Thanks for capturing such an insightful interview.
@saadilyas86
@saadilyas86 5 лет назад
Jello, my most sincere condolences for your fathers passing. May he rest in peace.
@mycroft1905
@mycroft1905 5 лет назад
It was indeed a photo-reconnaissance F8U-1P Bu.No.144608 in which Major John Glenn flew the first supersonic transcontinental flight across USA for Project Bullet in 1957. This aircraft was later used by VFP-62 on reconnaissance missions over Cuba. Can recommend 'Blue Moon Over Cuba' by W.B. Ecker and K.V. Jack, 2002, for a first-hand account and darn-good read about the low-level Crusader missions flown during the missile crisis. Gentlemen, good job; love the show from way Downunder.
@javaace9746
@javaace9746 5 лет назад
“...just a nibble of buffet.” I love that! This guy is gold. Yet another great show gentlemen. Deepest respects to Jello regarding his father. I lost mine in 2013. I really appreciate all that you two are doing.
@ashokiimc
@ashokiimc 3 года назад
That’s really sad mate. But let’s look on the other side. He’s in a better place now. 😊
@LockheedStarliner
@LockheedStarliner Год назад
Keep the beer cold...
@sukhoiromantic1718
@sukhoiromantic1718 5 лет назад
As for notoriety great anime called Area 88; main protagonist flies an F-8 then moves to an F-5 when he loses it
@Tigershark_3082
@Tigershark_3082 3 года назад
Yep, that's what got me into the F-8 in the first place
@danoconnor765
@danoconnor765 5 лет назад
Can't wait to hear Brian Shul. This episode as all your previous ones was top notch.
@donno1970
@donno1970 5 лет назад
I never knew much about the F-8 other than its existence. Now I'm going to have to learn some more about this aircraft and some of the great men like Turkey that flew it. Great interview guys, hope we hear more from Turkey in the future. And yes Wags we need this in DCS.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Well, "future" I don't know but did you catch Turkey on our Facebook live segment yesterday?
@dmutant2635
@dmutant2635 4 года назад
There are some great books out there you might enjoy. Most anything by Adm. Gillcrist has something to do with an F-8. His monograph Crusader! Last of the Gunfighters is a great starting point. Chronicles all the F-8 Mig Killers, his war cruise and the history of the jet. It was the first model kit I ever made back in '63. lol. Heard my first sonic boom back then too, by an F-8.
@taproom113
@taproom113 8 месяцев назад
Awesome stuff! 🤘 ^v^
@figmo4227
@figmo4227 5 лет назад
Really interesting interview, learnt alot. Cheers for uploading love from the UK
@simflier8298
@simflier8298 5 лет назад
Wow! I could have listened to him another 6 hours. Fantastic interview!
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
You're in luck! Bonus content is available on our Patreon page: www.patreon.com/posts/27844679
@mviking39
@mviking39 Год назад
What a real man. High school children should listen to this. Great American
@paladin0654
@paladin0654 4 года назад
Thanks for your service Turkey. As an Army guy we crossed battlespace paths in '72 and in '73 I saw the demo near Seattle; the last demo before Lakehurst. Thanks for your service.
@bearowen5480
@bearowen5480 2 года назад
Turkey, great interview and congratulations on a fabulous dream career in Naval Aviation. Regarding your remarks about John Glenn's record breaking coast-to-coast, non-stop speed run....you were correct that Glenn's aircraft that day was an F-8, specifically a Navy RF-8 photo-reconnaissance version despite the fact that he was a Marine aviator. I've been told that the reason an RF-8 was chosen for the mission rather than for a speed advantage of the recce bird over the fighter variant was because of a difference in oxygen systems between the two types. The straight F-8, like most Naval jet aircraft of that era used the familiar liquid oxygen conversion system to supply undiluted 100% oxygen to the pilot. The system had an endurance suited to the relatively short mission duration of Navy and Marine Corps tactical jets, usually less than two hours. For Glenn's record flight, the planned en route time was something like five to six hours, well beyond the endurance of the F-8's oxygen system. For reasons I can't recall, the RF-8 had a different oxygen system which had the greater endurance required for the mission, and that's why it was selected for the flight. Maybe recce Crusader pilots or ground crew veterans can shed more light on the reasons why the RF-8 had this unique system. in reference to your intriguing description of air-to-air refueling in the Crusader, especially at night, with a probe tip that was off center and behind the pilot's right shoulder, it makes Glenn's accomplishment all the more remarkable. To set the speed record, he had to fly a supersonic roller coaster altitude profile, essentially in afterburner for the entire flight, descending to rendezvous with and repeatedly refuel from a series of pre-positioned, very slow, piston powered, staight-winged KA-5J Savage tanker aircraft! The entire evolution represented a phenomenal feat of teamwork, planning, and individual airmanship. Glenn's RF-8 from that iconic flight later found its way into the Marine Air Reserve photo reconnaissance squadron, VMP-4, at Navy Dallas where my good friend, Marine Reservist, C.R. Cusack flew it on several occasions. Beneath the canopy rail on the side of the fuselage, it had a riveted metal plate commemorating Glenn's historic flight. I believe the aircraft has been preserved and is on permanent exhibit at the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. As Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient, Paul Harvey, would have said, "And now you know the rest of the story." Semper Fidelis, and Anchors Aweigh, Bear out.
@bobharrison7693
@bobharrison7693 9 месяцев назад
Nope. Glen's RF-8 n.e. F8U-1P is on the bottom of the Gulf of Tonkin as the result of a ramp strike, I believe on the Oriskany. The F-8 was not a short range jet. The RF carried 10,200# of internal fuel, 1000# more than the fighter. One of the advantages of the F-8 over the F-4 was its superior range, endurance and combat fuel package. The F-8 was able to operate effectively without external fuel tanks.
@USNRaptor
@USNRaptor 5 лет назад
I saw my first Crusader this past weekend at the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo, Michigan. It looks so small sitting next to a Tomcat. It looks like you could sit two Crusaders on top of the Tomcat, and still have room left over.
@fluff_ruff
@fluff_ruff 4 года назад
The movie "Thirteen Days" with Kevin Costner, features the F-8 in a fairly big way as photo recon.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 4 года назад
True!
@christiancormier7847
@christiancormier7847 5 лет назад
Wow! So great. I love how excited Sunshine was. I just met a Tomcat driver here in Madison CT and I sounded the same way. Thanks for everything gentlemen.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
You're welcome. We can't help ourselves!
@mickmckean7378
@mickmckean7378 4 года назад
How good was "Turkey", a real straight shooter and great stories. Sunshine - I don't think I'll ever forget the saying "you lower the fuselage, not break the wing"...
@gustavorocha78
@gustavorocha78 4 года назад
One of the best episodes ever!
@IkeThe9th
@IkeThe9th 5 лет назад
Turkey talks about legends, but come on... this guy is the real thing. Awesome guest and I am grateful to hear him speak. (another surprise - Joe “Hoser” Satrapa was apparently an infamous Tomcat driver also)
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Agreed.
@ludovicbon5903
@ludovicbon5903 5 лет назад
Very good interview ! Few french navy pilots are also members of the wing folded club . One of them did a flight during 30 minutes after an airshow in Belgium .
@Ha11yw00d
@Ha11yw00d 5 лет назад
This one was really good. Thanks guys.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 5 лет назад
The RF-8s mentioned in the Cuban Missile Crisis story were featured in the film 13 Days. About the term "Ensign Eliminator", first time I heard that was in reference to the F4U Corsair of WWII, which was known as a tricky airplane to fly, especially trying to get aboard the ship. Its long nose and engine cowling made it difficult to see the ship on approach, so the Navy and Marines tended to use it from land bases. The British Royal Navy developed the technique of making approaches while circling in from one side so the pilot could see the ship as he banked in.
@bobharrison7693
@bobharrison7693 9 месяцев назад
The RN did indeed develop deck landing techniques for the Corsair but the USN had a fully carrier qualified F4U squadron, VF-17 before the RN was operational with the Corsair. VF-17 was pulled off Bunker Hill in Hawaii early Fall of '43 because there were no F4U spares in the CV supply system.
@karlchilders5420
@karlchilders5420 3 года назад
My old boss, Gen P. D. Williams, USMC flew Crusaders in Vietnam. He was there at El Toro I was active duty serving with him, but the stories he told of the Crusader.. Man... He was CG, COMCABWEST at El Toro. Super good guy, great aviator, and a fine Officer of Marines. He also flew Skyhawks and Intruders as well as Helos at Tustin. He was there, closing down both Tustin and El Toro. Very sad but he presided over some of the finest aviation units in the Corps at the time, and we had been to the Gulf War and back (and won!!) and in his words "turned around the way people thought about and interacted with the military post Vietnam". Every time I hear the Crusader mentioned I think of Gen. Williams.
@taproom113
@taproom113 8 месяцев назад
P. Drax ... a jarheads, Jarhead! Ooh Rah! ^v^
@n7565j
@n7565j 5 лет назад
Oh how I hope Col. Richard Graham is the next guest!!! (The A-12/SR-71 has always been my favorite a/c due to it's looks, lines, speed, and the engineering that went into that gorgeous aircraft. Kelly Johnson's Crown Jewel to be sure!!!) I heard Col. Graham speak at Sun-n-Fun back in 04 (may have been 03, it's tough getting old ;-). He's a fantastic speaker and excellent author, I've purchased all of his books and loved reading each and every one (I even got them all autographed) Hope you all had a terrific Father's Day!!! The Good Lord Blessed those of us with children, and I thank Him each and every day O:-)
@bulldog282
@bulldog282 5 лет назад
Great interview! Remind me later to tell you guys about when I, an Air Force Crew Chief had the opportunity to work on a retired but flyable testbed F-8 back in the late 1980's.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
It's "later" Kevin...!
@bulldog282
@bulldog282 5 лет назад
In 1987, I was a crew chief on the AT-38B and I was assigned to the 435th AMU of the 479th TTW at Holloman AFB, NM when a friend of mine (Ron) who had just retired secured a job with a company called Thunderbird Aviation (I think) out of Phoenix AZ. He was to be the sole maintainer of an F-8 Crusader that would be located at Holloman for the purpose of testing A-G munitions and it was to be parked on the test squadron ramp on the other side of the base. Ron went to Davis Monthan AFB in Arizona and assisted with retrieving the aircraft out of storage. Now, where I come in, whenever he needed assistance with a maintenance task or standing ground for a maintenance engine run, etc... he would call me! I helped chase hydraulic leaks, jack the aircraft, replace a nose landing gear, install fake gun barrels, pull chocks, and more. It was indeed a very interesting time for me.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
@@bulldog282 I can imagine so!
@bulldog282
@bulldog282 5 лет назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast His name was Mike, not Ron. I'm getting old!
@georgeburns7251
@georgeburns7251 4 месяца назад
Great interview. Really like your personalities.
@dankuettel5063
@dankuettel5063 5 лет назад
Paul Gillcrist wrote in my opinion the best book on the Crusader. Title: Crusader! Last of the Gunfighters
@dmutant2635
@dmutant2635 4 года назад
Gillcrist wrote some great books. Crusader! is one of my favorites. If you aren't already familiar with it check out Over the Beach by Zalin Grant. He embedded with the Oriskany for 3 different war cruises in the Tonkin Gulf. Good stuff.
@zebombsaway
@zebombsaway 5 лет назад
I’m sorry to hear about your dads passing. You will see him again. Keep up the awesome content Sunshine and Jello!
@slow9573
@slow9573 4 года назад
50:50 I might have teared up a bit, but maybe it's the onions I'm peeling... dude went through all that shit and he was the most scared when he was shooting danger close to marines because he didn't want to hit them. I love my country so much. Thanks for your service.
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 5 лет назад
I think the best interviewee yet! I bet his out of the cockpit stories are even better! I remember reading a book on the F-8 years ago that had a variation of the Schlitz beer motto. When you're out of F-8s. You're out of fighters! Great job guys! Oh and could you do maybe the SR-71 soon?
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Was the next episode soon enough?!
@tabascoindy5005
@tabascoindy5005 Год назад
Great podcast & great Vietnam stories. Is there any specific reason for airframes to have chin air intakes? Thx
@dmutant2635
@dmutant2635 4 года назад
Great interview with Cmdr. Tucker. I wish you had a video of his hands while he was talking. lol. My uncle flew a brand new F-8 from Dallas to Oceana. He said it was the fastest he ever a flew a jet in his life. The paint started flaking away around the canopy. He wryly added the only time he went faster was when he ejected from one over the Gulf of Mexico.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 4 года назад
Faster for a short period of time, yes, I would imagine. Glad he survived.
@briantoplessbar4685
@briantoplessbar4685 3 года назад
This was one if my favorites
@paulbarrett9951
@paulbarrett9951 5 лет назад
Hi Jell-O and sunshine another brilliant show . I would just like to say thanks for making the show , I have been with you from day one , and really appreciate you all for the hard work you put in to the show in your spare time . We love the show and I for one don't mind one bit if you all ease back with the shows , you all have family's full-time jobs so it's totally understandable . Thank you . 😊
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Thank you, Paul, we appreciate the encouragement.
@garyyoung4074
@garyyoung4074 8 месяцев назад
AWESOME AIRCRAFT. Wish there were some still flying. Would be a GREAT airshow airplane the younger gens should know about. Last of the gunfighters and a REAL handful in a dogfight even for 4th gen fighters!
@dutchbrotherfan1284
@dutchbrotherfan1284 4 года назад
Feet Wet has got to b one of my favorite books. Underwater ejection from an F-8 during a fly off Admiral Gillcrest is the author
@billflynn4602
@billflynn4602 5 лет назад
Great show. RIP Dad.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Thank you. 🙏
@Jewclaw
@Jewclaw 4 года назад
Omg I can’t believe I came across this channel!
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 4 года назад
Kolo Mark welcome!
@mro9466
@mro9466 5 лет назад
Thanks!
@modscientist9793
@modscientist9793 8 месяцев назад
Wow! Awesome podcast! Gripping stories.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 8 месяцев назад
💪
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 5 лет назад
Why is there a Cross pattée (whose shape was also used for the Iron Cross) on your channel banner's F8 (at the end of the black stripe running underneath the cockpit)? Thank you.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Not sure.
@georgiaflyer8702
@georgiaflyer8702 5 лет назад
No way! Turkey is an awesome guy, I love his blue angel interview over on the channel "Blue Angel Phantoms"
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Agreed! For everyone else, it's here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F0zP9ACSnZE.html
@ryanschweikhardt
@ryanschweikhardt 9 месяцев назад
This is a great discussion
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@s2korpionic
@s2korpionic 5 лет назад
First time I tried landing the A-7 (not exactly a F-8, but close), it was in the BAT mod for IL-2. Man that was a bitch to land on a carrier!
@Cortana_ice_fox
@Cortana_ice_fox 4 года назад
Excuse me, but didn’t the later variants of F-8 had additional countermeasures such as chaff and flares installed around after 1968?
@braeddie
@braeddie 5 лет назад
Brian Shul next? YUSSS!
@cecilpotter1229
@cecilpotter1229 2 года назад
Grew up at Nas Dallas, Dad flew F-8s for VF201 the very last real gun fighters. I have lots of really good photos of F-8s from Texas. VF 202 as well. LTV was across the way as well. Man those were the days. T@Gs all day and night 😲. Dad's next duty station was in his Miramar in San Diego living in government housing that was a thrill as well
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 5 лет назад
The most interesting thing for me about the F-8 was how Crusader College became the foundation for TOPGUN, since the Crusader community made its bread and butter doing ACM.
@bearowen5480
@bearowen5480 2 года назад
I recommend Dan Pederson's book, "Top Gun" for a fascinating history of that famous institution. Capt. Pederson was the Fighter Weapon School's first C.O. The training there, at the Air Force's version, and at all the "Flag" exercises worldwide have doubtlessly saved hundreds of free world pilots' lives, not to mention dramatically improving the air-to-air kill ratios.
@dankuettel5063
@dankuettel5063 5 лет назад
Sorry for your loss Jello
@bazej1080
@bazej1080 5 лет назад
Is it true Leatherneck is doing F-8 for DCS?
@braeddie
@braeddie 5 лет назад
Yup, Magnitude LLC is doing it. Can't wait.
@kraziivan_
@kraziivan_ 5 лет назад
Nice.
@bret9741
@bret9741 3 года назад
Wow…. What an amazing aviation life.
@tristangamet7375
@tristangamet7375 5 лет назад
Hi. Just found this tube a week ago. Love this site. I am no gamer, pilot. I just love to draw planes. I just found out, Joe HOSER Satrapa, legend pilot F8, F14 pilot is gone this march. I learned about Hoser reading the book topgun back in the 90s. I love reading about him. He is very amazing. I even read his piloting the tomcat, have failed the test of a new gen of sidewinder would not locked if he is piloting the plane. Almost lost the sale of f15 to japan because of him. Watch his video fighting forest fire. Hope you have story of Hoser. This side would help me undertand more of naval pilots. Thanks
@charlesmagrin2616
@charlesmagrin2616 5 лет назад
Great stories from "Turkey"! What a pilot. Hey guys learning the F/A-18C in DCS I was wondering what means you use aboard the Hornet Charlie for IMC ground landings giving the fact it did not have an ILS system only ICLS which only works for carrier landings. I guess good old ADF/NDB/TACAN and a rule of thumb for the slope? thanks in advance and keep up the amazing content guys ;)
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
TACAN approaches, yes, and also PARs or precision approach radar. Think of these as a verbal ILS where a ground controller tells you how you're doing every couple seconds on final. It's good enough to get you in when weather is as low as a 200-foot ceiling and 1/2 mile of visibility.
@charlesmagrin2616
@charlesmagrin2616 5 лет назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thank you so much for your time answering me Jello-O or/and Sunshine, much appreciated!
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
@@charlesmagrin2616 You're welcome. (Jell-O here)
@charlesmagrin2616
@charlesmagrin2616 4 года назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thanks for your answer! I wonder what would you do if your radios breaks down (eg lightning) and you can no longer listen to the controller guiding you? This ever happened? adn what if the weather conditions are below the ones you mentioned above?
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 4 года назад
@@charlesmagrin2616 Not to me, no. If the weather is "below minimums" you divert to somewhere else.
@crusader5989
@crusader5989 3 года назад
Hi, i really enjoy the show and the F-8 is one of my favourites. I may be a little late on this but i have a question for Jerry Tucker. I have read that the F-8 was restricted to one aileron roll at a time because of instability developing if subsequent rolls were maintained. Is this true? Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
Seems plausible, even the F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet have that limitation.
@crusader5989
@crusader5989 3 года назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast thanks for the quick answer. So what happens if you keep rolling?
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
@@crusader5989 you could lose control.
@crusader5989
@crusader5989 3 года назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast ok, i guess oscilation in the other axis becomes worse and worse as you keep the roll, thus becoming something different than just a roll. The plane kind of ends up tumbling end over end. Basically departing
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
@@crusader5989 Correct.
@PrimarchX
@PrimarchX 5 лет назад
I wonder if Turkey knew and flew with Mugs McKeown?
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Not sure, we could ask him. But I'll promise you one thing: you'll hear that name on the upcoming F-4 Phantom II episode... 😎
@colonelkurtz2269
@colonelkurtz2269 2 года назад
"Turkey" 🦃 needs to write a book.
@bluemeriadoc
@bluemeriadoc 3 года назад
what is RAG? regimental air group or something
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
Replacement Air Group. Obsolete term.
@Fast85FoxGT
@Fast85FoxGT 3 года назад
Now coming to War Thunder! Cant wait to fly this bad boy out.
@dkoz8321
@dkoz8321 3 года назад
Combat engineers , especially those trained and tasked with breaching enemy defensive constructs, minefields, obstacles, are called 'sappers'. In 1994 US Army authorized SAPPER tab, similar to RANGER tab, for specially trained soldiers who complete advanced SAPPER school. Sapper to engineers are what Rangers are to infantry. It is a supremely tough, dangerous job. Sapper tabbed soldiers are also trained in advanced patrolling , and special light infantry operations.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
It's been awhile since this episode so I forget: what did we say that spurred this comment?
@dkoz8321
@dkoz8321 3 года назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast Mention of father, a veteran of WWII who served as a combat engineer, and the host or guest mentioned that he did not know what they were called. I am former US Army Res. (13A) Field Artillery Comm. Ofc. (YOC '93).
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
@@dkoz8321 Gotcha.
@dkoz8321
@dkoz8321 3 года назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast Quick question sir. AFAIK , no officer, or senior NCO, only has one job in unit. I imagine that no winged officer in squadron (USN or USMC) was limited to just flying. We all would have "Joe" jobs. ; Expendable supplies cost control officer Sensitive materials control officer (must have an E-6 assistant) NCO Eval Officer. Commissioned officer O-1 or higher who fills out NCO evaluation forms for XO and CO signatures. I was scared of this one. High risk of being labeled BF. I hated being a rater. But Army, in its wisdom, was unyielding. Every man with shiny rank was to be trained on how to evaluate and rate enlisted personnel.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 3 года назад
@@dkoz8321 Yes, same in squadrons. A pilot might also work in the operations, safety, or maintenance departments in various capacities.
@dankuettel5063
@dankuettel5063 5 лет назад
My fave Navy bird!!!!
@ethanbrown1235
@ethanbrown1235 5 лет назад
F-8 is my favorite century series fighter by far
@goobytron2888
@goobytron2888 4 года назад
Ethan Brown Century series fighters all were f-100, 104, 105, 106, etc... century meaning one hundred. I could be wrong though.
@Tigershark_3082
@Tigershark_3082 3 года назад
@@goobytron2888 You've got it right
@georgeburns7251
@georgeburns7251 4 месяца назад
@@goobytron2888 he probably went to school in California
@leeadams5941
@leeadams5941 2 года назад
Jungle was a steller pilot...Randy Clark could have continued flying, they use to use him to fly replacement aircraft at the same time saying he could not fly....never understood why they didnt fly the F8 in the blues, but have to say the A4 was a great airshow platform
@taproom113
@taproom113 8 месяцев назад
Spoke to a Marine Crusader pilot years back who said it was evaluated and passed all the criteria ... except one. Longitudinal stability at the slow, top of the diamond loop. He said it just didn't like to get slow and inverted at the same time ... especially in close formation. I've since had several other 'Sader jocks say the same thing. "Speed is Life!" ^v^
@mikevoetelink5840
@mikevoetelink5840 5 лет назад
Get "Turkey" back on again. I don't care if he just talks about what he ate for lunch just get him back on.
@mikevoetelink5840
@mikevoetelink5840 4 года назад
Just got done listening to the bonus episode with Turkey. Thank you for the entertaining interview with Turkey and all the other great episodes you gents put out. I listen to you guys daily ( most episodes I’ve listened to 2+ times). Keep up the great work it’s deff appreciated by everyone. Semper , Mike.
@bjsracer
@bjsracer 5 лет назад
Condolences Jello.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 5 лет назад
Thank you.
@stephenfowler4115
@stephenfowler4115 4 года назад
The decision to trade the F-8 for the F-4 cost a lot of pilots their lives in Viet Nam.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 4 года назад
Interesting assertion. I'm not sure it was fully a "trade"--believe they both served at the same time?
@stephenfowler4115
@stephenfowler4115 4 года назад
@@FighterPilotPodcast just watched a podcast on a Crusader pilot and yes they were contemporary although the Phantom wasn't there at the beginnning of the war. But I was referring to the respective kill ratios of the two aircraft. At times during the war the Phantom's kill ratio dropped to 1to 1.
@FighterPilotPodcast
@FighterPilotPodcast 4 года назад
@@stephenfowler4115 Got it. Well to be fair, the Phantom II was never intended for dogfights. It certainly did better after the creation of TOPGUN.
@dkoz8321
@dkoz8321 3 года назад
I wonder why F-8J and later USN mods did not swap MK-12 guns for single M61A1 with 1000 round drum that A-7 later got. MK-12 were jam prone at high bank angles, inverted firing, but there were 4 of them. But at 125 rounds per gun is kind of low. I am curious why USMC, which happily operated F-8, refused to operate A-7, determining that it was unsuitable to Corps needs?
@Tigershark_3082
@Tigershark_3082 3 года назад
An M61 would've weighed down the F-8 by a lot. It also had no room. Now, I could see them replacing the Colts with M39s
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