Hey guys, Cassie's editor Mike here. This video should have been edited and posted Friday before last, but I got laid out with an awful flu for nearly two weeks. Nothing to do with Cassie or Carly, they've already recorded Return of the King. So sorry for the long wait! Part two will be up tomorrow and then Return of the King bright and early in the New Year. Hope everyone had a better Christmas than I did!
Mike- No worries! You are an all-star, thank you for doing what you do. And it is good to hear you are on the mend- better health to you in the coming days!
1. I hope you feel better. 2. Can you please use your power as the editor to start hiding a little guy just waving and saying hello into each video without letting Cassie know?
Also, keep in mind, Dumbledore is a HUMAN wizard, Gandalf is an angelic being who's innately magical in a way Dumbledore never could be. Gandalf is technically immortal and thousands of years old. It's no competition.
@@Halfwit_The_Brave he could use the power but he had a sort of “divine order” if you will set upon him to not overtly showcase the power. This is also because of what happens to Arda every single time Maiar and Valar and together with their Vanyarin elves that they literally end up destroying the earth itself in a deep way just as collateral damage. They care too much about all the living things within Arda. This is also why Gandalf was afraid to take the ring for “The Use Of Good” because he’d wield a world destructive power if he did.
I have read LOTR, but it's been 40 some years. If I remember right Gandalf had a ring of power(not THE ring), Galadriel had one of the rings given to elves, and Elrond might have had one
@@Halfwit_The_Brave It is rumored that Gandalf could have beaten Sauron single-handedly, but he was only to assist and aid Men, and not be the sole savior of Middle Earth. Men have to learn from this reckoning, lest history repeat itself a 3rd time.
You know, its quite sad that the movie didn't feature Sam's actual gift from the books - the box of soil taken from the elven forest with a single acorn from their most sacred tree. Sam being fiercely protective of it is a feature in the books, and eventually pays off. The rope is cool and all. but that wasn't really her gift - it was a practical piece of equipment that she knew they'd need. The soil and acorn is, by itself, a seemingly worthless gift (like the strands of hair given to Gimli) that hold a lot more cultural significance.
TOTALLY AGREE! I love these movies, and I know that they needed to cut some things out to actually make them happen (either that, or make a dozen movies...and probably still leave things out). But that is one of the only cut things that was really upsetting to me. That box, and his actions in regards to it, was such an integral part of Sam's character, and a whole other layer of character development that they totally missed out on.
Yes. Sam plants it and it grows to be the only mallorn tree west of the Misty Mountains. And he sprinkles little bits of the dust all over the Shire, resulting in the most bountiful harvest
You touch on one of my greatest criticisms of the PJ movies. Sam was SO in awe of Galadriel that he felt tongue tied in her presence. There’s NO way he’d be so ungrateful as to ask for a different or an additional gift.
In the books, Saruman has studied the lore about creating the one ring. He was convinced he could create new rings of power and this slowly corrupted him.
It's the only healthy way to consider The Ring: It's too powerful and corrupting for ANY BEING to have, thus must be destroyed. I was struck the other day, watching Return of The King, how the entire scene of getting to the precipice of Mt Doom to toss The Ring to it's destruction, only to be enticed to claim it at the very last moment...It would be a great side story to recount how many times the walls of that chamber have seen that exact scene play out over history. We know it's happened at least twice, Frodo and Isildur, so it's probably happened a bunch more times over thousands of years. It would be fascinating to see how many times The Ring was one small action away from destruction, only to go on from there to destroy the life of it's claimant.
@@RobertMorganwell, we know that didn’t happen again, so sadly that theory doesn’t pan out. Isildur lost the Ring in the Anduin when he died, until it was found by Gollum, who then lost it to Bilbo, and we know the rest of the story. Unless someone found the Ring in the middle of the Anduin, brought it to Mt Doom, succumbed to its power, and left (all without being noticed), and then proceeded to lose it in the Anduin AGAIN, it’s impossible that someone else found themselves in the same scenario as Isildur and Frodo. It just wouldn’t add up.
The kind of baddies they have to deal with tells you something. At least Dumbledore’s enemies are human. I wonder how Voldemort would fare against a Balrog
Carly and Cassie ask, "How can Saruman who once was good be like the most evil...?" The answer isn't explicitly stated in the movie, but it is in the book: it's the Palantir. Peter Jackson & Co. reveal the Palantir, the Seeing Stone of Numenor, early in FOTR, but in the book we don't see it till near the end of T2T. Then Gandalf says, "Further and further abroad he gazed, until he cast his gaze upon Barad-dur. Then he was caught!...Easy it is now to guess how quickly the roving eye of Saruman was trapped and held, and how ever since he has been persuaded from afar, and daunted when persuasion would not serve. The biter bit, the hawk under the eagle's foot, the spider in a steel web!"
Yeah. The Palantiri originally were not evil, but a gift between the Elves of Valinor and the Men of Numenor as a method of communication, since men were not permitted to cross the waters to the undying lands. When they were brought to Middle Earth with Elendil and his descendants after the fall of Númenor, the one that was stationed in Osgiliath was captured and fell into Sauron’s hands, while others went missing. That is what made the use of them so dangerous, as you don’t know who else is watching. Like a hacker in a video call.
I feel like this is explained well enough in throughout the films, but I really wish we could have gotten a glimpse of the Palantir that Denethor possessed.
@@roryasrorri701 More akin to a well meaning conspiracy theorist who falls into the wrong community. We can see this in the Q cult - many of them went into it with pure intentions, wanting to protect children, but were twisted into who the 'threat' was coming from and then further beyond until the initial desire disappears and they actively harm children.
I am so glad you included so much of my favorite all-dialogue peak-acting scene, where Wormtongue is trying to tempt Eowyn at her cousin’s deathbed. It is such a brilliant adaptation from the book, where it is Gandalf who says those words about her. It makes more sense to have Grima say them, because he would know her so well and understand just how close to the edge she is at this point. The acting from both Brad Dourif and Miranda Otto is just top notch!!
The closest approximation of Gandalf's physical age is 24,000 years old according to Gandalf himself. Yet various dates of key events in other Tolkien texts show that Gandalf has actually only walked in his physical form for over 15,000 years (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar. Many Maiar were considered really great and powerful. This movie is full of things to remember. Especially after reading and watching in depth videos and discussions about Tolkien and the lore etc. it’s vast and wonderful.
Interesting that it says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar. Of the Istari (wizards) I can understand, as there were only five, and Gandalf is definitely the wisest of them. There are just so many Maia, and so little is known about them all. But it makes sense, as Gandalf was a servant of the Valier Nienna, whose gifts were wisdom and understanding. That would make him the greatest of her servants, at the very least. Sauron was a servant of Aulë, who was the father of the dwarves and good at making things. Saruman was, I think, a servant of Manwë, who was king of all the Valar. I don’t remember where I was going with this nerdy rant xD have a nice day!
@@bellethilrancthalion1109 I think 'wisest to the mortal world' would be more apt - before Gandalf was what he became he roamed the lands as a spirit due to his insatiable curiosity and learned things no other Maiar knew (due to them not seeing the value in the affairs of mortals). Its why he was chosen as one of the Istari but not given leadership - he continued to roam all the lands and essentially be the messenger of the wizards, while the others had much narrower concerns.
@@Tilion462 we calculate from the moment he entered Arda and dwelled in Valinor, but definitely from the time he sailed to middle earth in 1000 of the third age which time flowed differently in each age and the elves themselves.
@@andromidius he actually was asked and insisted by Manwë and others to be the leader and he denied being lifted into such a pedestal. Saruman before is SLOW fall, was very very wise, very capable, very powerful. Full scope is given by Broken Sword who just did a what if video on Saruman Vs the witch king of Angmar and it was beautiful. Uses source material only for support. And believe me. He uses some cool obscure knowledge that even someone who’s read the books and such many times might have missed. Check it out!
Brad Dourif who played the creepy Grima Wormtongue has played a myriad of villains in Movies including David Lynch's Dune, Mississippi Burning and as the voice of Chucky in the Childs Play franchise.
Your sister is really in tune with this movie it seems. She seems to take away the exact themes that Tolkien intended (like pity around Gollum) and understands the weird ideas/meta behind Gandalf now being the new Saruman (aka, he's been raised to the leader of the order of the Istari). Great writing and great transcription into the movies
I'd say it's more of a lateral move, not a true promotion. Gandalf was always on the same level as Saruman in terms of power, but Saruman and Gandalf had different jobs within the "company". Ultimately they still both report to some higher ups.
@@fakecubed They are the same order of spirit/entity but they have different levels of spiritual authority. Correct me if I'm wrong but the White Wizard is the leader of the Istari.
@@blazednlovinit Only in the sense that the white wizard is there to lead the forces of good against Sauron, and that the other wizards are presumed to be part of those forces of good.
@@fakecubed While they are the same order of creature they were garbed in the bodies of weak and frail men to advise rather than use brute strength, much of their angelic power was locked away, the leader of the Istari had more authority/ability to show this power.
Awesome to see Carly fall on love with characters and story just as Cassie and we all did ❤️. Seeing Carly cry during the scene when king Théoden buried his son also made me burst out onto tears, only a great story, characters and the actors who portray them can do that 👍
Hi. So, if you hadn't noticed, Eomer (the handsome guy leading the horse brigade 😊) is played by Karl Urban who also plays Dr. Leonard McCoy on the latest Star Trek movies.
I believe Gandalfs physical form is actually around a couple of thousand years old. Hes just always looked like 60 years old as the Istari are meant to be wise counselors not conquering wizard lords. His actual self known as Olorin is FAR older though. But yeah Gandalf would smite anything the Harry Potter universe could throw at him.
the istari including gandalf arrive in middle earth about the year 1000 of the third age. The events of the two towers occur in the year 3019 of the third age so he has been in middle earth for just over 2000 years in the form of gandalf the grey
The thing that's really freaky when you look at Gimley is knowing that the actor who plays Gimley is really over 6 ft tall. Amazing how the movie makes it look like he's a dwarf!😳😊
Clever use of doubles, cuts to close shots, forced perspective, and a bit of compositing here and there. Basically every practical trick they had, none of which are _that_ hard to execute, but combine for a very convincing effect.
Some good scenes I haven’t seen in a while. Love that you’re watching the extended versions. Everything scene added served the story well. Great that you are sharing this with your sister, too. Fun to hear her reaction at the end of “Fellowship”.
17:15 so Tolkien was a soldier during WW1 and saw some horrific things when he fought in the Battle of the Somme. He used all that horrific stuff as inspiration for the Dead Marshes and the haunted dead in the water.
An excellent honest emotional reaction (even on the 2nd watching). The funeral for Theoden's son always hits me hard. Many years ago, I lost my brother in a car accident and watched my parents deal with "no parent should have to bury their child". They captured the pathos of that so well. Hang on and enjoy the ride to the finish. Still the greatest movie(s) of all time. Side note...the "voice actor" for Treebeard is the same actor who plays Gimili
@@jasonk3605 Thank you. It’s been 30 years ago now. But I’m sure for them the void is still present. My parents as always proved an inspiration in the way they handled the aftermath. But the scene with Theoden gets me every time.
Another small fact that gets overlooked is that the Orcs who kidnapped Merry & Pippin were from Saruman, but the Orcs that met them on the road are from Mordor, hence their instant hatred for each other on first sight.
Gollum was Motion Capture by Andy Serkis, however they used most of his motion capture as Ref only, and had animators - re animate all of (MOST of ) his movements to make them better. one of my animation teachers worked on this. and Animated the entire scene where gollum is on a rock LOOKING for the ring and can't find it. Gollum is COMPLETELY CGI.
When Cassie first watched this and she saw that Gandalf was alive ...her expression was ...well, I have no words, but it was one of my favorite reactions of all time.
Aragorn is descended from Isildur who was strong enough to cut the Ring of Power from Sauron's hand. He knows that even Isildur was corrupted by that ring and, as a man, cannot trust that he will not also be corrupted
Haha, just noticed “The Two Sisters” in the title. That flag that fell in Rohan was actually not planned, but appropriate and made the cut. Also, I believe that Aowyn improvised the melody when lamenting Theodred
@@StinkyBuster He's stopped snakes made of fire, he's manipulated water, he has a pet phoenix that is super strong and will defend him from attack, he's demonstrated his knowledge of stunning spells...
@Monarch Music gandalf has stopped a demon of the ancient world made of fire. Manipulating water isn't that impressive, in Middle Earth just the elves are able to do that to much more impressive effect than Dumbledore. Gandalf has many fully intelligent Giant Eagle friends and can communicate and ally with all sorts of creatures. Gandalf has also demonstrated knowledge of stunning spells.
Saruman, like Denethor later, have Palantirs (the crystal ball thing Gandalf touched at Sarumans tower & saw the EYE of Sauron.) Sauron corrupted them over time through a mind link using the stones. That's why Gandalf covered it and said it was too dangerous to try to use them because they did not know who else had them.
9:30 - "how can Saruman suddenly turn evil" - it took a long time. He has a palantír - that translucent orb you saw in his tower in the previous movie. Gandalf caught a quick flash of the Eye of Sauron when he touched it. Sauron has one of the other palantíri, and he has been using it to seduce and corrupt Saruman. Sauron can't make the palantíri lie, but he _can_ control what part of reality you see in it. Denethor, Boromir and Faramir's father, also has a palantír and Sauron has similarly been trying to corrupt him. Denethor has a stronger character and Sauron wasn't able to turn him evil, but he _was_ able to make him despair and become ineffectual.
Actor Andy Serkis played Gollum, not just his voice, but also being there on set with the other actors, while wearing a white lycra motion-capture suit with a stretchy white hood that only showed his face (the 'gimp suit', as they jokingly called it). Andy's body actions and facial expressions were captured by special cameras and digitally read into the computer, and this informed the CGI software as how to render the facial and body movements of Gollum. Andy worked out Gollum's voice after seeing his cat at home coughing up fur balls. Not only the sound, but the full-body spasming motion from the tail to the head, all went into making the distinctive sound that became Sméagol's more well-known nickname _(gollum, gollum)._ Doing this voice on a daily basis eventually took a toll and made his throat pretty raw, so that Andy went about carrying a honey-lemon-ginger concoction he'd made, known affectionately as 'Gollum juice'.
I am French, I watch your videos in France, I often watch your channel because I love cinema and your beautiful energy !! Even if I admit that I do not always understand what you say 😉
During the Hunt, there were quite a few jokes on Gimli's behalf about the "famed endurance of the Dwarves". And they are the hardiest of all the Children of Iluvatar (Yes, I know they're adopted but whatever). But this chase taxed that fabled endurance to the limit. But he did not flag or fail.
9:37 As far as I remember both Sauron and Sarumon served the same Valar the blacksmith and because of this they desired structure and order which made their corruption easier.
This knowledge I give will help make sense of the future movies ahead. Gandalf is Maia (Spirit) named Olórin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will and individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf and lived among them whilst they were unknowing and he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) and the other Istari (the order sent around the same time and of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is and a student of the Vala by the name Nienna and Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being and Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” and basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife and sadness and longing. Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea Arien is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon.
Aragorn was able to resist the temptation of the Ring, but what if he had to fight and kill Boromir to protect Frodo. He was ready to on that snow covered mountain. And once Boromir was out of the picture, who would have been the Ring's next target? Legolas? Gimli? Aragorn would have to fight them. Frodo wanted to go on his own so his friends wouldn't have to fight themselves over him. Sam, hands down, had the strongest will against the Ring.
The reason Aragorn held Frodo back from helping Gandalf is because there were orc archers firing at them from the other side. You can see some of the arrows whizz past if you look.
Cassie, your little sideways glance and smirk in Carly's direction when Merry and Pippin were delivered to "the white wizard" was utterly delightful! Also, I have now decided that Arby's got their meat slogan from the orcs of Isengard. 😆 Great reactions as always, from two wonderful and beautiful ladies!
stopped midway to comment, but i love how your sis said "sam, pull him up", as you have a horrified better understanding.... sam is the hero, after all...
Tolkien was a soldier in WW1 and that experience shaped his life and Lord of the Rings. In the book Gandalf says, "You cannot pass" to the Balrog. I think this comes from the most famous quote from the war when the French general at The Battle of Verdun in 1916 said something similar to his troops, who subsequently stopped the German advance. It was then put on propaganda posters as "They Shall Not Pass". Every soldier in that war had heard the saying.
Gandalf was older than middle earth, older than the first elves and dwarves. As old as Sauron, Melkor's lieutenant in the First Age. He was among the 4 Maia sent to Middle Earth at the beginning of the Third Age to monitor Sauron and to advise in their special areas of interest.
The stuff that the Uruk Hai poured into Merry's throat is Orc Drank which is a type of medicine that gives you energy, described in the book as it feels like it was burning inside you. Behind the scenes, it's a mix of Peach Ice Tea, Glycerin and Sodastream Cola concentrate. Dominic Monaghan described the feeling as "It couldn't be any more sticky, like liquid glue". The first take, his vomit was acting but the second take it was real consindering how disgusting that must have felt.
Happy New Year to you both and your loved ones ☺! Ah, I love those movies. I just binge-watched them on New Year's Eve with good food, tea, ale and a pipe with shire tobacco 🤗. Btw. Saruman, Gandalf and Sauron are actually "on the same" level or better said equally powerful. They are all Maia (like the second highest angel class) with the Ainu representing the supreme class of angels. All three use their power according to their proclivities, Saruman uses cunning, Gandalf uses empathy and Sauron ... well he went his path with Morgoth ...
Fun Fact concerning "Sauron" and "Saruman": The makers of the 1978 animated Lord of the Rings movie thought that they sound to similar and the audience will mix it up, so they changed "Saruman" to "Aruman".
Gandalf is not a human. He is a maiar, basically a lesser angel type being that serves good. The Balrog is also a maiar, but one that was corrupted and serves melkor. Sauron is also a maiar who served melkor originally. But gandalf is not just a human wizard like Dumbledore.
Am here n 10 May 2025. It's been nearly a week since the very sad news of Bernard Hill's death at the age of 79. I hope he has gone to the halls of his fathers and their mighty company. Rest In Peace Theodin.😔
Fun fact. When Theodon scolds Aragorn for correcting him. It was technically Theodon rejecting the council of his elder rather than Aragorn speaking out of turn.
I can assure you, Aragorn is far more likely to die from a heart attack than Gimli. Gimli is a dwarf and they have legendary constitution, dwarf hearts are the size of a basketball and stronger than most people's thigh lol
Fear corrupted Saruman. He said so to Gandalf. “We cannot defeat him, Gandalf. We must join with him.” He was corrupted, in order to literally fight for the “winning side” as he saw it.
Let me explain this further! The Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript] C The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear and despair, and perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, and to beg for his pardon and help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, and said that he would go and try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - and found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras. See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy and even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund(Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was very important in the legendarium) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down.
Fun Fact: If you watched most of the appendices on the DVDs, that is. The scene where the crew shot Viggo Mortensen and his companions against the rising sun turned into an overnight cookout at his urging; where word of mouth brought other actors and even stunt doubles to join the party. The filmmakers got little sleep, so to catch that amazing moment.
Here is what Èowyn sings at Thèodred’s “funeral”•Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed. (Now in in the language of the Èitheod)❤ Nú on théostrum licgeth Théodred se léofa hæ´letha holdost. ne sceal hearpan sweg wigend weccean; ne winfæ´t gylden guma sceal healdan, ne god hafoc geond sæ´l swingan, ne se swifta mearh burhstede beatan. Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. She sings this part in the movie: Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. Éowyn is only heard singing the last four lines of the song, ending with the word Bealo, which in Old English meant "evil" or "harm". The first of those lines ("Bealocwealm hafað...") originates from the epic poem Beowulf, line 2265.)
Andy Serkis plays Gollum. He also played Caesar in planet of the apes, Starwars, Andor, Black Panther, Avengers Age of ultron, King Kong, The Batman and many other roles
Amy Poehler made a joke at the Golden Globes years ago, applauding Reese Witherspoon's performance in 'Wild'..she added.. "and Andy Serkis was great as her backpack!". 😀
Alot of people don't know this. But the infamous "You shall not pass" line is a nod from Tolkien to a very cool event in real life history. I'll give you a hint, he fought in WWI. . . . Where it happened 😏
So psyched about this! I love these movies and the books so much. If I could erase my memory and experience the story for the first time again I would! This is as close as I'll get to that
Gandalf's appearance is that of an old man he is in fact almost immortal and belongs to a group of beings called the ishtari he's more of a spirit that's called upon when needed.
Saruman is referred to as 'Saruman the White' and did wear white robes, but in the novel later on instead appear to be "woven from all colours and shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered" and he named himself 'Saruman of Many Colours. It’s a sign I believe that he has embraced moral relativism and no longer embraces clear values as he used to.
Concerning the question whether Gollum was CGI: It actually was a combination of CGI and motion capture. So all the movements in the scenes where done by the actor Andy Serkis (who did also the voice acting) and then they laid that scary texture of Gollum over it. Serkis has made quite a profession of it, starring in the same manner as Baloo in the jungle book remake Mowgli: legend of the jungle as well as portraying Supreme Leader Snoke in the finale Star wars trilogy.
For those who keep asking why no one ran back to save Gandalf before he fell down with the Balrog in the movie, there are two things that you should take notice of. The first is how far away they all are from Gandalf at the time Gandalf stops to confront the Balrog. None of the members of the fellowship are near, it is a significant distance they would need to run back. None could've made it Gandalf before he let go and fell. The second is the orcs on the other side of the now destroyed bridge. When Aragorn finally moves to flee with the rest, you can see orc arrows narrowly missing him and hitting the rock wall next to him. Had anyone tried to run back to get Gandalf, they would have been filled with orc arrows.
What you may not know about Gandalf -- indeed all the "wizards" in the Tolkien universe -- is that they are far more than old men in silly hats with conjuring power. They are, in fact, demigods known as Maiar, who are manifesting with the appearance of wizened old men merely for human's benefit. They are vastly powerful. Sauron is himself a "fallen" Maiar. So, I'd say DD would have a hard time competing with that.
Just FYI Gandalf did actually die, but was as he said, "Sent Back". Eru (Supreme deity of Arda) sent him back to take over Saruman's role hence why he is now Gandalf the White.
When John Rhys-Davies did the voice of Treebeard, he tried speaking through both the inhale and the exhale. Thinking, naturally, that trees wouldn't actually have lungs with which to breathe.
I don't know why, but it is great fun to watch you two watching a favorite movie of mine, I plead with both of you, though, read the books. There is so much that Jackson could not put in the movies.. some many wonderful places and Characters you will never know about if you don't read the books! Please have a happy new year!
