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I have finally finished testing Warlock single target damage! Here are my results and they do confirm that Warlock damage dealer is somewhat lacking.
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@lb153
@lb153 2 месяца назад
First off, thanks Aragon for taking the time to do the tests. In one way I'm glad you confirmed what I thought all along. Like some others who comment here, I always end in top1-3 paingiver, mostly top 1. However, I'm not as naive to believe that it's because of a setup and secret only I know. I've played Warlock for 10 years so my experience with the class helps, but I suspect I don't often go up against very experienced end game players. Does this video convince me to drop the Warlock and go for another class? Nope. It should, but it doesn't, because I like playing the underdog. There is no better feeling putting an arrogant Wizard or Rogue in their place. Having said that, I respect being outdone by anyone who knows how to play their class and have the humility to go along with it. What makes me valuable as a Warlock in parties is multi-target, and not trying to show off, but rather letting tanks do what they do best and supporting where I can. In other words, I simply accept where Warlock contributes and where it doesn't. However, if you new to the game or only been playing Warlock for a little while, I would recommend you reconsider another class until they (one day) buff Warlocks. At the end of the day I enjoy playing Warlock and don't get hung up with the "mine is better than yours - d**k swinging" mentality. In the end, let's hope there's some change in future so other classes can go sit on the "woe is me" bench for a bit.
@anthonymorris1571
@anthonymorris1571 2 месяца назад
Even if they do make any changes, it will probably just be a lazy increase to magnitudes like they've done many times before to other classes. And that's a shame cause us warlocks need some serious love here and have needed IT FOREVER
@fredrauch418
@fredrauch418 2 месяца назад
💯
@MasterOGA
@MasterOGA 2 месяца назад
They purposly made the system of clear and easy magnitudes to make micro-updates easy and quick. They still let stuff go for years before changes, it's crazy!
@dashawnmclean2307
@dashawnmclean2307 2 месяца назад
Ive noticed that over the years of Neverwinter, Warlock is usually the last to get any love. Especially back when the soul puppet was doing more damage than the player was. Maybe ONE DAY, we warlock mains will get the attention we deserve.
@cynicalwomannoname7844
@cynicalwomannoname7844 2 месяца назад
@fredrauch418
@fredrauch418 2 месяца назад
🙏
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 2 месяца назад
well, warlock definitely need attention from devs ... already for so long and still no attention concerning dps spec. ST: as said in video - all SW powers for ST are aoe powers, really nothing to choose. But what is not said - even those powers work bad. For example: animation for hellfire rings is SOOOOO long and due to game lags sometimes it even doesn't cast at all or cast even longer. Same with soul scorch - you have to wait for eternity for it to cast. Killing flames - pretty much the only viable ST power and also target HP dependent, so half of time it's dps is nearly 600mag. Really 600 mag. While a lot of classes has more on AoE powers. Just pathetic. AoE: some warlock can really do viable results in AoE. But as said earlier - powers are broken due to long/bugged animation. Fire bolt sometimes even won't cast if u clicked it and target died. So u spent time for animation and it's no even casted and u have to waste time again. CC: there are only 2 CC powers - arms of hadar and hadar grasp. While both are useless due to SOOO little magnitude, just really u kidding: 85mag and 300mag for ST power. OMG. But also hadar grasp for some weird reason DON"T trigger enchanter's hex. Why, just WHY? And also there are literally 1-2 enemies affected by this power. Most of all - immune to it's CC. Why? What is the purpose of that power at all. No dmg, no utility. Pathetic. Shift: it also broken it wildspace. I assume due to some weird speed scaling with bonus in wildspace when shifting u can become a rocket during fight and easily arrive under boss to be one shotted. All i said is from personal exp. In general I think it's ok when all classes are different and has its pros/cons. Some can have higher AoE/ST dps, some utility like CC/buffs/debuffs etc. Like it was in m13 and before (don't how after, i abandoned game). But currently SW has literally NO benefits. I mean SW dps. Yeah it's cool it has 2 paragons, but SW dps has no benefits over other classes unlike some others like CW/TR/HR/Bard and even DC. And it's very frustrating for me, a person who really likes playing SW.
@ChuckRitt
@ChuckRitt 2 месяца назад
My Warlock ST damage is pretty damn good, but hell yeah I endorse this message!! Get us buffed bro!!! 😎❤️😊
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 2 месяца назад
Good and competitive is of different. I also main SW and do easily and effectively any end game. But even my bard which is still under construction and less lower IL/lack of a lot needed gear is more viable imo and more dmg. It's only my exp. And also bard is very fun to play :)
@ChuckRitt
@ChuckRitt 2 месяца назад
@@danikmoroz2328 I'm 86k AOE and 88k ST and out damage 96-100k Wizards daily. It doesn't matter the class. IL ain't shit, it's all about your rotations..
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
​@@ChuckRitt come dps against me lol I'm a rogue bet I smoke you by 300m+
@ChuckRitt
@ChuckRitt 2 месяца назад
@@matthewcasey4085 🤣😂 Sure thing, Timmy..
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
​@ChuckRitt you on xbox?
@JP-rz2su
@JP-rz2su 2 месяца назад
Sadly, you are all too right about the Warlock Hellbringer. I have played one for many years as my one & only character & got to know it very well. In normal content & in random queues it does well - it frequently tops the pain-giver list, even against much higher level characters. For scything through ads it's is excellent. But in Master dungeons it is hopeless because of its almost non-existent ST capabilities, making even the likes of the first boss in MTOS almost impossible, when for a 90k well balanced build this whole dungeon should be very doable. As a consequence, very few private queues are prepared to accept a WH. This makes obtaining decent high level gear from Master content all but impractical. One further comment - the BoVA is does good damage but in actual content is so clunky to use that I avoid it. If you use it on yourself you have to look up, or if you use it on someone else there's no guarantee that they'll stay near targets even if they notice it's on them. Most DPS want to focus on target(s) not themselves or the other players.
@fredrauch418
@fredrauch418 2 месяца назад
Clunky indeed - I can’t stand using Blades!
@CST-ft9dv
@CST-ft9dv 2 месяца назад
And how many times have we heard the Devs say Warlock DPS is in a good place. So "good place" means last lol
@fredrauch418
@fredrauch418 2 месяца назад
💯😂
@jerededmons4313
@jerededmons4313 2 месяца назад
I’ve loved this game for 10 years, but it’s an endless puddle of crying p2p dps constantly crying how low their dps is so the devs nerf everything else, then 3 months later do it again because another dps class cry’s about low dps It removes all strategy from the game ,save master lvls, by jumping power creep over and over
@cedriccano3290
@cedriccano3290 2 месяца назад
Yup !, same goes for healers too !
@AkihitoNarihisagoID
@AkihitoNarihisagoID 2 месяца назад
Could not agree more, the people who claim to play warlock too are even more sad on that fact one day no one will even play this game so let them, they all want dmg buffs, i think reworking warlock to be consistent and not relying on animation cancelling could be a good thing maybe lowering cast time, others dont agree 😂
@peputjuan7873
@peputjuan7873 Месяц назад
Lul even an 80k rouge can outdps a warlock with way higher item lvl in master contents.
@topshotterz4eva
@topshotterz4eva 2 месяца назад
Can we see some multitarget test between all classes plz I would love to see the results after the devs put in so much hard work for "balance"
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Multi target is a mess. Not even sure how I'd test it properly to get a fair comparison
@peputjuan7873
@peputjuan7873 Месяц назад
Obiously rouge or any other claases will clear adds before u even drop that hellfire ring... there is no balance iyn that xD
@vaenyc
@vaenyc 2 месяца назад
Thanks for this. One caveat I would add (my main dps currently is a warlock) is that for the most content of the game, it's kinda good enough - where most ppl will spend most of their time. I have not tried mdwp/mdom/mtic yet which is where I think it you are saying it will struggle, but in something like atic, i pushed 325m (second was 350, first 425), right behind second place for top dps yesterday - and i'm only 80k IL without all 90%s yet (close). Obviously its scaled down to 70k. I guess what I'm saying is that you can still have lots of fun playing the class pushing to limits of available content and I wouldn't be discouraged by these tests. But i agree, if you spend half a year building up a char, you better expect that it can compete in the highest levels of content and not feel like you're a liability to your group
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
Warlocks in many ways were designed around DoTs and some debuffs, with a smattering of Control. But they need a rework as Mod 16 shafted them. As you say, even when the DoTs have a chance to build up, they are lacking everywhere else. Tyrannical Curse used to be good, now... not so much. My "main" Warlock is a Tiefling called Consequence of Flame, and for role-playing reasons I didn't want any necro, just Fire damage. It's OK solo and at the Guild, but I've not run her in a party for many years. {:o:O:} _(Edited for Tyops)
@michrom2693
@michrom2693 2 месяца назад
Divine Aegis does not work for warlock sw with Vampiric Embrace.Maybe they will do something about it,but i doubt it. Nice content Aragon thx for this.
@MasterOGA
@MasterOGA 2 месяца назад
Tried All Consuming Curse + Deadly Curse as your two class features? You get 2x deadly Curse hits on both of the at-wills, and obviously 2/3rds of the encounters. Also animation cancelling both hellfire ring and killing flames takes ~1.5 seconds off your encounter rotations which is huge. Cast ring, followed by killing flames, and then BoVA. Your dps was going to be very very low since you weren't doing that. Retry with these changes please, also no reason to stamina cancel your hellish rebuke either
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Yes, it is not worth giving up the nearly 8% damage from the other class features, especially when you consider artifact calls where you do like 50% of your damage and it is not with any at-wills
@MasterOGA
@MasterOGA 2 месяца назад
@@Aragon- if you are putting artifact call above everything else, why use creeping death feat and not Executioners Gift? 🤔 You 'only' get a maximum of 100mag every 2 seconds with creeping death so 300-400mag during window if timing is in your favor. . .yet it's still huge damage overall. ACC+DC gives you ~37.5m per rebuke or hand of blight (first hit wont crit, just gonna call it half damage). You can do 2x hand of blight a second and some bonkers amount of hellish rebukes when you get good at cancelling it. Even just the slow ass 4 hand of blight in 2 seconds gives 150extra mag in 2 seconds. That's more than creeping death's damage 🤮. You should really redo your tests, curse will end up being an obnoxious amount of damage that you're missing And if I STILL haven't talked you into it, look at how much damage bonus warlock has from feats, mechanics, gear companions etc. . .dust to dust is going to be like 2.5% effective boost to your encounters and maybe 3.25% to all other damage (didn't do actual math, just guesses)
@carlosenriqueacasietetresi2886
@carlosenriqueacasietetresi2886 2 месяца назад
​@@MasterOGA can you upload a video explaining this. Im main sw. TY
@0Jsays
@0Jsays 2 месяца назад
​@@MasterOGAIt's obvious Aragon doesn't know this class (or most of the other classes), he's just making content...
@hoongcheng
@hoongcheng 2 месяца назад
Reminding me of an ex-alliance who named themselves 'eagle' but in other terms, that kept countering and pissing me off hard with information to only prove Warlock is bad on his test logs. Instead, I always take a positive approach to show how to turn the classes weaknesses into competitive ones without any criticism and don't put others off. That is why he is forever not improving and always blaming the classes. When I suggested having a high AP gain build to spam Tyrannical Curse. He kept on proving his point hard on the test log to show low curse damage and others that Warlock was bad. I can say he is indeed arrogant and never stays competitive but to blame others and his class. It is funny to name his toon as Maester but just a mediocre player without listening and learning from others for improvements.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
50% Recovery? LOL! In the Glory days of Anointed Champion Power Buffer, my Cleric had nearly 300% Recovery and 180% APG! Lots of Silvery enchants instead of Radiant! She did not hit as hard as my Dwarf Divine Oracle, but she hit more than twice as fast and could use Encounters like At Wills and Dailies like encounters. Permanent Anointed Army. {:o:O:}
@fredrauch418
@fredrauch418 2 месяца назад
The good old days!! ❤
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
@@fredrauch418 Good Times! {:o:O:}
@ethanwilliams7881
@ethanwilliams7881 Месяц назад
I've played the warlock since the good ol temp lock build with the old feats, I miss them days, I feel like I need to switch but I can't go back on my self
@luistadeu571
@luistadeu571 2 месяца назад
We already knew warlock was not doing that great, and it’s even worse using blades in a boss fight because when you cast you have to look up or down to not cast in other players rather than you. I use my warlock as a drow because I play as heal as well, and most of the time I use more as like a support heal/dps, because warlock as well has that nice debuff armour, so if the team dmg is not going that great, I just put the armour and debuff ring to help out.
@fredrauch418
@fredrauch418 2 месяца назад
I can’t stand using Blades for exactly that reason!
@luistadeu571
@luistadeu571 2 месяца назад
@@fredrauch418 I use sometimes but it is annoying to keep doing that
@0Jsays
@0Jsays 2 месяца назад
The warlock needs magnitude increases, definitely. Lets be clear though, the warlock isnt a barbarian and you're likely to disappoint yourself if burst damage/ climbing paingiver fast and early is your main goal. Warlock is as versatile a class as they come and we love our class for that. Bards buff, warlocks debuff., dps or dps and debuff...it all depends on the user. Crowd control with the slap hands ,whirly blades and fiery bolt OR h-ring, bolt and flames. Fight close like a rogue OR stand in the back with the wizards. Use flames of empowerment (i think that it, been on a break from the game for awhile) feat to debuff with curse bite or dust to dust. Want to farm soul sparks, use tebuke with the feat, theres options. I personally despise cookie cutter classes, comps and builds, if its all gonna be the same just port it to a cellphone, lbs. Then again, maybe i should retract all this, my whisperknife was wonderful while Aragon and Galactic were calling that class "clunky" 😂😂😂😂
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 2 месяца назад
Def need mag increase. And would be great to have some debuff feats/mechanics, but there are no
@eggie011
@eggie011 2 месяца назад
My alliance has a 80k warlock who easily top the trails ahead of the 90k+ rogues, wizards, sometimes by a factor of 2. No idea how he does it. But yes, for the other warlock players, a little buff would be nice.
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
If someone is losing to a warlock that said person is not very good lol
@MasterOGA
@MasterOGA 2 месяца назад
He's using different class features and animation cancelling all but soul scorch and BoVA. It's a massive increase to damage when played correctly
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
I have a endgame rogue and wiz and I assure you I've never lost too a warlock
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
​@MasterOGA even still your not beating a good rogue lol like a true good rogue or wizard
@eggie011
@eggie011 2 месяца назад
@@MasterOGA In that case, I will try it out myself and see if my damage will increase.
@williamhorn4290
@williamhorn4290 2 месяца назад
I still feel like it's in a good place and I main one. You missed several things but overall for someone that may be starting the game this will 100% improve their dmg. Just for starters we depend as much on timing as arbiters and there is no need to have 2 tacticians!
@ryanburdette17
@ryanburdette17 2 месяца назад
MIC has been great for the warlock the bosses dont move a lot so we actually get to hit our full attacks, that first boss with tyranical curse then hell fire circle and blades just eat the spiders and boss
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
I did a RADQ run with a Cleric dps last night, we got the Avernus Citadel dungeon. His dps was terrible, almost beaten by the Tank. The Warlock kept bitching about him, so I told him Cleric ST dps is in a bad place and is hard to play, so shut up. I hate toxic players like that. I PMd the Cleric him that he should check your ST Cleric Arsebiter build on your channel. He thanked me. Every single Daunting Light he cast seemed to miss. I don't know what build he had, but he wasn't playing with his balls very well. He was 83k and had some Mythic and Celestial enchants as well. I have a ball juggling Fire/Radiant buff ST build, but it's difficult. I solo with my AoE dps build, and always queue as Healer. I'll have to compare your build with mine {:o:O:} _(Edited for tyops)_
@AkihitoNarihisagoID
@AkihitoNarihisagoID 2 месяца назад
Well, i agree warlock is in a tough spot but with animation cancelling i can still be in the top dps in the whole of neverwinter, however i do stand to agree how the class is poorly managed the class is with no real ST powers, buffing is something we have needed, but one think to point out for everyone, in the normal game only use dust to dust and no pity no mercy and hellish rebuke is the best while playing, aragons build is for a test dummy so dont stick to it expecting that damage either. Another thing as i mentioned with animation cancelling to maximise killing flames uptime i can still be top dps in all content but forcing a class to animation cancel to get majority of damage is terrible where as other classes dont do anything but have good normal damage. Hope it gets a buff but will just make me stronger with animation cancelling.
@DRIFTOR-jo1dw
@DRIFTOR-jo1dw 2 месяца назад
Small
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
Lol even with animation canceling your only beating the people who don't know how to play there classes like rogue or wizard or cleric. No warlock is beating a rogue In aoe or st lol idc what you say not possible
@topshotterz4eva
@topshotterz4eva 2 месяца назад
@@matthewcasey4085 facts
@AkihitoNarihisagoID
@AkihitoNarihisagoID 2 месяца назад
@@matthewcasey4085you all dont understand how important animation cancelling is and its underestimated, its okay if you dont believe or care, my explanation was to agree with the class being under powered for the average shit warlock players but if you are good or the best which in this case ive been called the best warlock on pc by pretty much half of the pc server base i can confidently say there is no content in the game where i get gapped by alot because there is outliers in all parts of the world and im decent at my class and know the potential
@AkihitoNarihisagoID
@AkihitoNarihisagoID 2 месяца назад
@@matthewcasey4085want to know whats ironic, being one of the best warlocks on the game my friend tyreece is one of the top rogues and he and me battle it out for top 2 dps in all content, we run mtic, mtia, mdemo, mdom and in all of that content me and him are always top 2 dps, you can name any dps on neverwinter and we have ran with them, aslong as they are like 95k+ IL we will know 😂😂
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
I forget which channel, but someone did a very detailed animation cancelling build. You had to count and do things in an irregular manner. It would be impossible to do a macro for it. {:o:O:} _(Edited for tyops)_
@boostedimage2786
@boostedimage2786 2 месяца назад
That is why lots of people can not play SW properly because it TAKES work. Just bad mouth it and go to TR or CW
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
@@boostedimage2786 Do you remember which channel it was? I'd like to take another look. {:o:O:}
@boostedimage2786
@boostedimage2786 2 месяца назад
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 SOrry never seen any videos on that stuff on TY.
@NerdTrigger
@NerdTrigger 2 месяца назад
maybe if they reduce the cast time for hellfire ring and reduce other encounter power cooldowns, warlock can be more effective.
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 2 месяца назад
not cd but animation for sure
@epicpancho5459
@epicpancho5459 Месяц назад
You can do it by animation cancellation
@NappyHammer
@NappyHammer 2 месяца назад
How does it look @Flamekeeper
@amorrobel
@amorrobel 2 месяца назад
I do believe Aragon is wrong in a setup for ST … we have to use the DC and ACC at will bug … 25 mag on each application… scorpion is a must. And definitely a proper rotation but we do lack against top tier wiz, clerics, fighters…. It is very noticeable in fights like ToMM. We do not have that burst damage and Aragon is correct in our low level damage powers. There’s major overhaul we need in feats, class features, daily and encounters.
@gampie13
@gampie13 2 месяца назад
they should just patch out the animation canceling, and then retune around that. The reason the powers where tuned so low to beginn with, had all to do with animation canceling + cdr abuse, making lock just lagg behind as both has been nerfed in efficiency over time
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
The problem I have for the coming event is my Mains have very full bags already, Cleric, Fighter and Warlock. I was thinking of using one of my newer, off-Main characters who don't have as much junk on them. EG Barbarian, Whisperknife or Hellbringer with perma Soul Puppet. I was going to go Warlock, but now I am thinking again! {:o:O:}
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Go whisperknife. Lots of fun, very powerful
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
@@Aragon- Will that be OK, getting all the prizes on an Alt? I suppose my main will get some from random queues etc. I know most stuff is bound except insignia - so far! Cheers! {:o:O:}
@patryktajne8248
@patryktajne8248 2 месяца назад
so basicly u just showed every other folks my point - warlock st sucks. And u cant do much ab it
@nicholasramos5272
@nicholasramos5272 2 месяца назад
I promise you never seen a good warlock before. I play wizard, Op h, and tank can keep up with a lot of the end game player, and i am a endgame player. I also play on ps5. Im sorry guys are just scrub warlocks. Get better.
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
No your friend is scub doing 46 min mic runs if you call that a good warlock I'm sorry but you and him are dogshit
@nwnkadoc
@nwnkadoc 2 месяца назад
Big, fat 0 damage from Enchanter's hex. No reason to slot that mount power as warlock, because only 2 of the weakest encounters (Hadars) could proc it and those are the ones, that nearly nobody ever uses in any circumstances.
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Yup xD That's just a testing build. I get all the stats I need with it still slotted. So just incase there is some weird interaction or I'm testing some of those control powers, it's good to have it slotted
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 2 месяца назад
to be precise - only 1 power. Hadar's Grasp doesn't trigger ench hex
@bluffdogg9116
@bluffdogg9116 2 месяца назад
Would you not use T Curse daily at the start of the arti call so that all your subsequent powers benefit from the damge bonus of the daily?
@days387
@days387 2 месяца назад
Because of tacticians precision. The increased damage is not worth another set of encounters.
@Mortiferu
@Mortiferu 2 месяца назад
What would be the best race for Warlock?
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Probably gith, but human, wood elf, Dragonborn are good too
@Shadowhawk827
@Shadowhawk827 2 месяца назад
OK, so here's my question... We're talking single target here. The warlock, in my opinion and admittedly limited experience, seems to be a multi-target class. You may not do the most damage to the boss directly, BUT the fact that curse and other attacks can make hamburger out of entire mobs including boss support.. shouldn't that count for something? Multi-Target seem to be vastly underappreciated by the community in general.
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
It counts for nothing when there is only one target in the fight. Most challenging boss fights are just 1 target
@silvias.6410
@silvias.6410 2 месяца назад
What is it with the ranged classes that you have to play in close combat to get the most damage? Whats up with that? If I play a warlock, I dont want to stay close to the enemies, same thing with hunter... If I wanted to be first row in getting my ass kicked I would play a tank
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Then play wizard or cleric xD the only 2 truely ranged damage dealers.
@silvias.6410
@silvias.6410 2 месяца назад
@@Aragon- In fact I do, my main is cleric 😊 but when I started with neverwinter I wanted to be a hunter, but that was just a horrible experience 🙈
@hoongcheng
@hoongcheng 2 месяца назад
I agree good in AOE but will fall behind in ST in long run fight. If you mastered your class well, the competent Warlocks can compete with my wizard with no problems. I agree with someone here relying on animation canceling to be competitive is not a good approach. Perhaps rework some useless ST power to burst high damages instead of DOT.
@jasonbentel3924
@jasonbentel3924 2 месяца назад
Not with my build. I’m always at the top of the leader board and I’m keeping it to myself. Don’t listen to Aragon, experiment, there are plenty of ways to increase damage.
@davidegiani2271
@davidegiani2271 2 месяца назад
Can u share what do you use?
@mayn90s19
@mayn90s19 2 месяца назад
In random queues 😂
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
I wanna say something here go run a speed run where it's all debuff and tell me how your dmg is when the run is only 12-20 mins long. Your not beating a rogue with burst dmg because the warlock has no burst damage so how will you compete In a speed run? Also I'm talking about master content like mdwp and mic
@viktornemedi
@viktornemedi 2 месяца назад
Wizard is still the same? Your document about wiz has not been updated since 1 year
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
My m27 wizard document is only a few months old
@viktornemedi
@viktornemedi 2 месяца назад
@@Aragon- Oh, my bad 😅 i live in 2025
@nicholasramos5272
@nicholasramos5272 2 месяца назад
I’ve seen warlock beat good rouge dps. This not a good build video. Sorry, but it’s true.
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
With randoms with multi target, yes. I talk about single target here on the endgame level.
@days387
@days387 2 месяца назад
A half competent rogue will always out dps a competent warlock in single target and aoe.
@nicholasramos5272
@nicholasramos5272 2 месяца назад
I’m talking about a endgame warlock, and Rouge. My friend said you don’t know what your doing on a warlock. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. He out dps a endgame Rogue in MGR, and mic.
@days387
@days387 2 месяца назад
@@nicholasramos5272 Oh really? Thats funny, who is your friend? And what platform do you play on?
@nicholasramos5272
@nicholasramos5272 2 месяца назад
Andrew Brien is the guys RU-vid name. Check him out. He really good.
@darasirous8319
@darasirous8319 2 месяца назад
Those F devs didn't make rework on paladin so i ll tell them go devs found your manhoods
@alexpoabr3831
@alexpoabr3831 2 месяца назад
Não achei os boons tão maximizados assim mas...
@MayhemStudio
@MayhemStudio Месяц назад
Well when you suck at playing warlock I guess it's the worst
@Aragon-
@Aragon- Месяц назад
cause cleric dps is easier, yeah yeah xD
@Waves73
@Waves73 2 месяца назад
to all the warlocks out there (or those who want to join this beautiful class) don't get misled by this video. this is a dummy test. just play hellish rebuke with no pity no mercy and u are able to compete for top dps in 90% of the content (exceptions where u will suffer are raw single target boss fights: tomm, mzc, mdemo and mgzr) ur biggest benefits (especially for newer players) are ur ranged dps + having shadowslide if this class gets any buffs in the near future, our dps will be fire and everyone will swap to a warlock like they did with the wizard or rogue.
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
Your competing against Joe smoes not even top players lol you'll get smoked by a good wizard or warlock
@Aragon-
@Aragon- 2 месяца назад
Exactly, suffering in endgame single target fights. That's the whole point of this testing. Testing the balance at the endgame min max level, not for some random queues
@xxxxxx-ty5ls
@xxxxxx-ty5ls 2 месяца назад
These "tests" have nothing to do with reality. In real conditions, all classes have approximately the same damage (slightly more for rogues)
@kwivur2691
@kwivur2691 2 месяца назад
Oh, the Meta builds... 🤣 Warlock is more of a hybrid than it is a pure ST build.
@ChuckRitt
@ChuckRitt 2 месяца назад
First!! 😎
@nicholasramos5272
@nicholasramos5272 2 месяца назад
A this guy said 600 mill, trying to compare himself to bunch of mid-game players. 😂😂😂
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
Yeah and the run still gets done faster than your buddy's 46 min mic run? I mean I do his 1.4b dmg in 20 mins lol
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
And no those players have all gear and are 97k item level. Just because someone is 97 or 98k item level means there good.
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
Rotations is huge in st on rogue majority of people can't do it correctly and therefore loses dmg because of the way shadow of demise works
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
I'm sure ps5 and ps4 have players the same way there is always the people who don't play that well
@BigAl9581
@BigAl9581 2 месяца назад
They need to get rid of the healer path and put in another dps path like they had before ( necromancer) would fit well with the class in my opinion there is already enough healers in game warlock should never had been a healer . Also I don't run recharge on warlock better to go ap gain you need to let the dot have its full time before recasting or you not getting full dmg from power.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
When Warlock first came out, my Warlock was out healing my Main Ceric pure Healer. Warlock did Healing from the damage they did. {:o:O:}
@MJB_5574
@MJB_5574 2 месяца назад
Can't wait until they make rogue a healer as well then .... This is a DPS class that should realistically have another type DPS path. Does neverwinter need another healer? especially one that is clearly intended for DPS We already have paladin bard and cleric that can heal can't we just leave the DPS classes to DPS the best way they can ? Hybridisation of the classes blurs the defined roles that classes are intended for, I'm not saying it doesn't work but do we really need a warlock healer ? Or are the purebred healers just not good enough that we have to use a DPS to heal ? Warlock is a dot based DPS which has had no love in ages so they gave it a healer path imo that's lazy
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 месяца назад
@@MJB_5574 Yes, but in Mod 4 and 5 they had Hellbringer and Soulbinder. And Paragons had Heroic Feats as well as three Paragon Feat Trees. It was the Soulbinder Damnation that had the overpowered perma-Puppet, where the game's buffs to enemy mobs also affected the Puppet. Temptation path did healing from damage, but it was not a "Healer" Paragon as such. They toned it down a lot and then in mod 16 obliterated it and made a dps and heal Paragon, and swapped some decent dps powers from Hellbringer over to Soulweaver and _vice versa._ Personally, I agree it was a mistake to make Soulweaver a Healing Paragon. {:o:O:}
@danikmoroz2328
@danikmoroz2328 2 месяца назад
The worst idea i ever heard to remove heal spec SW heals are pretty interesting and ok. It's ok to have different classes of same role to make game funier and more flexible. Pls don't mess the main problem of SW dps. And if u r still interested in different dps passes - it can easily being achieved by class feats. Exactly how it is done with SW heals (shields/HoT) or Bard dps (performer/loremaster), just a bit work from devs
@blackjesusgaming9331
@blackjesusgaming9331 2 месяца назад
Warlocks suck healers or dps just delete ur class 😂😂
@record9090
@record9090 2 месяца назад
Warlock - range class. Worst class - rogue assassin.
@matthewcasey4085
@matthewcasey4085 2 месяца назад
Rogue assassin still outputs more dps😂😂
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