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1.5Mbps of pure '90s: Setting up a T-1 today - ISP Series Episode 3 

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We've got the need for speed like it's 1993. We explore the legendary T1 connection, and work on getting our very own for the ISP. The next step is getting our router online and starting up BGP to announce our presence to the Internet.
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#90s #internet #technology
00:00 - The need for speed
00:45 - Why T1?
06:00 - Getting a T1
08:34 - Ordering a T1... or trying to
10:33 - DIY T1
11:22 - Configuring the Adtran CSU/DSU
11:43 - Cisco 2501
13:24 - Configuring the Cisco 2501
14:49 - SPARCclassic update
15:19 - Border Gateway Protocol
17:08 - Configuring BGP
18:58 - Success!
19:13 - Coming up
Huge thanks to:
Soundgo for the smooth track from the "2 A.M Chill Session" compilation
Watch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z-_TTyZUOLk.html
Listen: open.spotify.com/intl-fr/album/3PZmQxxLUZwyyMgXWUpmuw
...and Downtown Binary for the mega "Astral"
Watch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6bC__mwZ6EQ.html
Listen: open.spotify.com/album/1uGa6ryU3GodJXBlFCAqNj?si=qWn-JoZzRUebT3PBIMA_qw
Above music provided by Lofi Girl.
References:
National Communications Museum (2020). CC-BY. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zQc0jVgQnik.html
Birth of the ARPAnet (2019). www.cybertelecom.org/notes/internet_history69.htm
Braun, Hans-Werner (1995). hpwren.ucsd.edu/~hwb/NSFNET/NSFNET_Hist/
vectorpocket. www.freepik.com/free-vector/3d-isometric-modern-buildings-cartoon-style-with-neon-illumination_2688300.htm
Gast, Matthew S (2001). T1: A Survival Guide. O'Reilly & Associates.

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@PotatoFi
@PotatoFi Год назад
In the early 2000's, my dad started his medical practice in a clinic with a T1. After using 20 kbps dialup, going to his office and browsing the web was a pretty unreal experience. He couldn't stand to use our dial-up at home.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Год назад
I worked at a telco for a while. I once downloaded the Linux kernel sources over one of our dual 700Mbps upstream links. It was done so fast I thought it had been locally cached, and I was wondering who had been downloading kernel sources. Nope. Just screaming fast connectivity pretty much right off the backbone to our state.
@MattExzy
@MattExzy Год назад
I remember hearing anecdotal stories from friends at the time who knew someone with a 1Mbps download speed. I remember thinking to myself 'what, a whole *megabit* are you crazy, no way...' ...and I think it was like 5 years later when I had my own ADSL connection of about 3Mbps, which definitely 'democratized' speeds then.
@MikeLikesChannel
@MikeLikesChannel 11 месяцев назад
@@MattExzyWe had a fractional at home for my dad’s small business. I wanna say it was ISDN at 128kbps? That was *awesome* at the time.
@sortebill
@sortebill 11 месяцев назад
@@MattExzy Times have truly changed, I just use my cell phone subscription these days, I get 100mbit on a regular 4g+ connection. A little more latency than a wired line but nothing that bothers me. It has a data quota at 100gb a month before they throttle the speed to 3mbit. Since I don't stream any 4k or any other data heavy stuff it works fine for my needs. 3mbit isn't fast by modern standards but growing up with just a dual isdn line at 128kbit I manage quite nicely.
@user-otzlixr
@user-otzlixr 10 месяцев назад
What happens next????
@kasuraga
@kasuraga Год назад
Man, I remember when I was a kid I dreamed of having a T1 line. And then I got a bit older and cox came out with 3mbps cable internet. I was blown away. Fastest internet on the street between all my friends, which means we abused the crap out of my pc downloading music on kazaa lol
@york2600
@york2600 Год назад
This video is basically my CCNA training course circa 2001, but 100x better presented than Cisco's computer training ever did. Great stuff
@ImpiantoFacile
@ImpiantoFacile Год назад
I LOVE these videos on old networking. Please never stop making them
@hainkm
@hainkm Год назад
I agree. I could watch these forever. So many memories of my teenage years when I had the privilege of working with a lot of this equipment!
@BillAnt
@BillAnt Год назад
"Mom! Hang up, I'm on a BBS download the latest warez!!" haha Let's just say my mom heard that often from me back in the 80's while connecting the Commodore C64 BBS'es, and later running my own BBS. At first using our family phone line, then later on got two dedicated lines for no more interruptions. Ah the good old days. :)
@acetechnical6574
@acetechnical6574 Год назад
really? I have all kinds of wierd Networking crap starting from the mid 80's, maybe I should make vids about some it. :D
@ironiczombie2530
@ironiczombie2530 11 месяцев назад
You can still get a T1 in my area through Verizon's local telco, at least in business locations.
@HappyJigg
@HappyJigg Год назад
FINALLY an explanation of T1 that actually makes sense! I don't know if I'm not looking in the right place, but I have never been able to find an explanation of stuff like this without an insane amount of jargon. I am also infuriated that no one else has made videos on vintage networking topics and equipment like this before, including something like the SPARCclassic. Keep making more amazing videos like this!
@ChasBlobster
@ChasBlobster 2 месяца назад
Back then a copy of "Newton's Telecom Dictionary" was necessary to be able to decode what your friends at the telco were saying... I bet you can get a copy insanely cheap these days.
@blodyholy_
@blodyholy_ Год назад
Good lord - I do not miss those T1 braggarts in chat during the 'early' days!
@roberthealey7238
@roberthealey7238 Год назад
Speaking of that, I remember when the Cray Internet guy got REALLY steamed when US Worst stopped supporting D4 and forced us to change their line to ESF thus dropping from 1544 to 1536… Took it out on our hide rather than US Worsts… Those we’re the days…
@Todd.T
@Todd.T Месяц назад
No problem for me. They used to post speed tests. I would post mine and neve respond to any questions. I worked for the ISP, so I'd do the tests early Saturday of Sunday from inside the office.
@ElectronFieldPulse
@ElectronFieldPulse Месяц назад
I always dreamed of having T3 access for online games. I wanted to go to the university more for fast internet access than anything else haha
@ABRetroCollections
@ABRetroCollections Год назад
I remember working a for a local ISP in '97. We had a T1 line for 25 modems in our community. I loved walking into the office and having direct access to that connection. It was a warez's wetdream in those days.
@slightlyevolved
@slightlyevolved 20 дней назад
Similar. In 1999 I still had a 33.6 modem, but worked at an ISP that had THREE! T1 lines. In fact, my PowerMac had a second 21" CRT that ran the monitoring tool (nmap? No? Maybe?) that showed a live map of our network and I had to keep an eye on. In 2000 I ended up as a beta tester for the AT&T @Home cable modem. A whole 384/128kbps! So fast!
@FATMAC2
@FATMAC2 3 дня назад
@@slightlyevolved I remember when Comcast rolled out their cable internet service. Remember when Surfboard modems could easily be hacked and you could set your own upload and download speed. Fun times.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX Год назад
Honestly, hats off to your ISP for letting you demonstrate a real T1 line and BGP. This is an amazing series!
@greatquux
@greatquux Год назад
I’m still a bit confused about exactly how they accomplished that, would appreciate a short following follow up, I’m sure it’d be very interesting.
@ax14pz107
@ax14pz107 Год назад
Sadly enough we still have several remote branches using T1s.
@meJaso
@meJaso Год назад
We used to have a T1 until AT&T sunset it in our area and we finally had to upgrade.
@ax14pz107
@ax14pz107 Год назад
@@meJaso ATT and Verizon are desperately trying to get us to drop our T1s. We've gotten rid of the vast majority of them and are now FCA, which comes with its own host of problems.
@user-gc1ky2rf3y
@user-gc1ky2rf3y Год назад
It’s just a LAN though. The ISP didn’t have anything to do with this project.
@abyssalreclass
@abyssalreclass Год назад
I feel fortunate, when I was a kid, my dad was in upper management at a major ISP. He worked remotely, and through his job, we had a T1 directly to our house.
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie 11 месяцев назад
Unlikely
@andrewdubose9968
@andrewdubose9968 11 месяцев назад
It wasn’t common, but definitely a thing. One of my parents was a VP in the back office of an investment bank. They were early experimenters with “telecommuting” and “remote operations,” and so we had a dedicated T1 line to the house that was paid for by the firm. 2-3 years later, optimum cable internet became available, which itself wasn’t super common in 2000-2001.
@abyssalreclass
@abyssalreclass 11 месяцев назад
@@andrewdubose9968 IIRC at the time we had our T1, my dad was a VP as well, though I can't remember if he moved up into the C-suite before or after we moved and he started going into the office again.
@Brando56894
@Brando56894 Месяц назад
Damn, you're lucky as hell! Did all of your friends marvel at how quickly you could surf the web and download stuff? I know I'd wanna be at your house like every day 😂
@tvviewer4500
@tvviewer4500 Месяц назад
@@brkbtjunkie everyone didn’t grow up in a junkie household, junkie
@MistaMaddog247
@MistaMaddog247 Год назад
I loved using a T1 line in college, would always download lots of stuff in the computer lab and burn it in a CD-R to take home which still used dial up. This was back when Napster was popular.
@soulife8383
@soulife8383 Год назад
omg, I got into it, like, the month Napster got shut down. I used Kazaa. I used to download mp3s at school and split them using the copy command to multiple floppies, and then merge them with copy again when I got home. I tried looking up the flags for copy to do this again recently and I cant find them, lol. They might be gone
@kilo-watt
@kilo-watt Год назад
My dorm had a T1 back then. Downloaded so much music from Napster. I remember a few guys having hustles selling burned cds for $5 since music was so easy to get.
@spitzer1113
@spitzer1113 Год назад
@@kilo-watt My college had a single T1 for students and faculty in the early 2000s. We had so much file sharing going on that they had to block it (many ways around that however). It would saturate the network and the faculty would complain about not being able to do anything on the internet. Eventually they created a 2nd faculty only network that had their own T1. We hated when the put all the faculty on their own network because we couldn't send random messages to their printers anymore. Fun times!
@gene7511
@gene7511 Год назад
As an operator of a startup ISP, this video was absolutely packed with information. Absolutely love it. Despite dealing with fiber and Gigabit speeds, almost the same jargon are still in use today, and I finally, FINALLY, understand where it all came from omg
@Chris-on5bt
@Chris-on5bt Год назад
This is a killer series, thank you for taking the initiative to do this. You are doing God's work letting us young hacker's learn about good old days the grey beards talk about.
@theserialport
@theserialport Год назад
Thanks for watching! We spent a lot of time deciding how to show this, actually.
@BurleyBoar
@BurleyBoar Год назад
Woah - I did almost exactly this work back in 2003 with a small moving and storage company as the IT guy. Excellent video to know is what is coming 80% of the time. The other 20% was an amazing "OH! That's what that was!". Excellent video and looking forward to more in the series. I love your take on preservation and restoration.
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki Год назад
I worked at a local dial-up ISP in the late 90s. When I first started they had a pair of T1s, but later replaced them with a >1gbps optical connection when the closet full of haphazardly-stacked modems got swapped out for banks of 56k modems built on special cards connected through a common backplane. Having access to a low-latency 10mbps connection (limited by the computer's network card) was truly incredible.
@Brando56894
@Brando56894 Месяц назад
Shit, that would have been like traveling at warp speed compared to driving a car. I'd probably crap my pants if I saw it download a few MB video clip in a few seconds, compared to hour plus it would take on something like a 56k.
@MarkyShaw
@MarkyShaw Год назад
Ooo I spy me a Cyclades box there at the end! I used those back at my first ISP tech job in the 90s. So many great networking fundamentals learned back then. I truly love this series. Thank you dearly for putting this together.
@billwall267
@billwall267 Год назад
Already one of the best retrocomputing channels.
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 Год назад
That's really cool your ISP let you do that. Honestly, I wish more businesses were open to such things. I get work is busy and you don't have resources to answer every single question or help every single person. Still cool to help out with something like this that can help people better understand the technology.
@Poniax3
@Poniax3 Год назад
I used to dream of having a T1 when I was younger. Thx for the videos.
@therealchayd
@therealchayd Год назад
It's mind-blowing how far we've come in terms of connectivity in the past 20-odd years. Just to think that a lot of people have watches on their wrists that have faster connections to the Internet than entire corporations had back then. When I was working in the ISP biz in the '90s-'00s, we eventually got an E1 (European equivalent of a T1, but 2.048Mbps), and man, that was quick at the time - I used to stay late at the office to get all my downloading done 😄
@jnharton
@jnharton Год назад
It's similarly amazing that it's taken so long for the average consumer to be able to make the most of an 10/100 ethernet adapter for anything more than a local network.
@fukkitful
@fukkitful Месяц назад
My DSL ROVIDER STILL ONLY OFFERS 1.5Mbps AT MY HOUSE... My phone does 3-4 MBps... I just use PDAnet to tether to my PC.
@davidblair8843
@davidblair8843 Год назад
I wish there was something stronger than a “thumbs up” because this video was stellar. A trip down memory lane, this was. By the time my old company retired T1s, we had four coming in for a 6mb connection which got split out by ISP equipment (AdTran not Cisco this time) to a PRI for voice, a half dozen or so analog lines, and of course ethernet. It went through our firewall, then hit the core router where we had at least five point to point T1 circuits, a couple were bonded and went to a single location. It was a great solution because we were able to push all the Internet and voice services out from a central location and save a ton of money. Indeed, like you mentioned, we in IT felt like gangsters at the HQ because we had faster Internet than everywhere else.
@x_x_w_
@x_x_w_ Год назад
Our T1 contract in 2006 was 300 a month. Somewhere in the pit is my copy of O'Reilly's t carrier the definite guide
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
Woo, glad my gut feeling of $200-500 in its latter days was accurate!
@joboboman4619
@joboboman4619 Год назад
Just wanted to express how impressed I am with this video and the lengths you went to for proper testing. You stated that you wanted this series to be a sort of archive for internet history and youre doing a really good job. Really well edited and engaging video on a subject that is far too often documented in a mundane boring way. I wasnt alive for this era of routing, but retro computing and networking has always been an interesting subject for me. I learned bits and pieces of this when I was in college for my degree in networking and this was much more informative than any lecture i had. Wishing you nothing but success on your channel.
@thegreyfuzz
@thegreyfuzz Год назад
I've been trying to forget all the T1, Frac, Frame Relay, etc circuits that I had to set up back in the 90s and early 00's. The setup was simple, but dealing with the different Telco tech's was often a nightmare (because they NEVER made mistakes, even after you showed them they did). Cisco 25xx routers were bulletproof, still are if you can tolerate the 10Mb speeds.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Год назад
I love how you're getting more and more interviews with these guys. I also really enjoy your visual design, the chroma-keyed backgrounds on hover-items so your background shows through, including doing it on video like your terminal emulator, gives it all such a cohesive aesthetic. But it's not overly gaudy or flashy like many other channels' attempts at similar aesthetics (various sci-fi lore channels come to mind). By the way, were you really going to pay whatever AT&T were going to ask, if they were even still offering T1s nowadays? I get that with cable and fibre they might've been lower than $2000 a month, but I imagine it still would've been $200-500 at least. Hmm, I wonder if anyone's compiled a list of T1 pricing over the years until they finally stopped offering it.
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ Год назад
I used to set up the CSU/DSUs and routers at the ends of T1s. I'm glad we no longer have v.35 connectors.
@Pro4Sound
@Pro4Sound Год назад
Good times!! I worked for the PacBell (phone co) from 91 to 23. Learned all this stuff, working on a comm tech. The technology ride was awesome! Watched DS0, to .x25 to channelized T1, to full T1, to T3, and even Muxing T1 (called the T2 (rare)). I got front row seats to watch fiber come into our buildings.. grow and take over like no one EVER expected! Then watched, 1Gb, 10Gb, 100Gb, WDWM, and right before I left, 400Gb lines to customers... I really would love to come back into a At&t building 20 years from now and marvel!!
@_lwza_
@_lwza_ Год назад
Great work, retro networking has been a bit underrated. A couple years back I set up an E1 in my lab using two Cisco 2500 series and network termination equipment, mostly out of curiosity for 90s networking and because the kit was available cheaply on eBay. I did the same with ISDN BRI, and have a couple of ISDN BRI and PRI test phones too. Fun stuff to play with and as you say, absolute game-changers back in the day.
@poofygoof
@poofygoof Год назад
frame relay and fractional T1 might be interesting sidenotes. I worked at a large region ISP in the late 90s and while main upstream were multiple T3s, we had remote branch dial-in servers connected through frame relay. In the early 2000s my subsequent employer went from frame relay with channelized fractional T1 for voice lines to combined voice and data over T1 to VoIP over T1, and finally to cable. I personally was responsible for configuring the xylogics microannex XL in college for dial-in access (replacing a cisco STS-10) which led to my job at the ISP primarily maintaining banks of telebit netblazers with racks of microcom(?) modems. there was some talk of replacing the modems with newer netblazers that could take in channelized T1s and handle 56k "modems" completely with DSP on each of the DS0s, but after I left the management decided to replace the netblazers with livingston portmasters which stupidly only supported 30 ports instead of the netblazer's 32, requiring redoing the wiring. interesting times.
@BigRonRN18
@BigRonRN18 Год назад
This reminded me of my setting up of ISDN in 1997, which I used until 2003. I had two 64 Kbps B channels, allowing 128 Kbps. I had this connected to a "Smoothwall" router and a network switch to both my computer and my brother's computer. ISDN was my only better option than dial-up; DSL was not available in my area.
@LeeZhiWei8219
@LeeZhiWei8219 Год назад
Can't wait to see more adventures of the ISP. Haha. Doing gods work here, bringing retro tech to people like me, who was born way after this.
@eugeniomartinboni8860
@eugeniomartinboni8860 Год назад
Well, i dont actually think it's that retro haha .. In the end it doesn't differ much in logical terms to what we have now.. :) But I love so much the "retro style"
@LeeZhiWei8219
@LeeZhiWei8219 Год назад
@@eugeniomartinboni8860 definitely. It's just basic networking.... But with different mediums.
@neal1231
@neal1231 Год назад
When I was in the Navy (late 2010s), I actually was the one who finally decommissioned an AdTran we used for our old VTC setup. I always got a kick out of dialing up VTCs using it.
@MrSunDevil23
@MrSunDevil23 Месяц назад
Being a network engineer for over 30 years I remember all this stuff-brings back many memories, some better than others!!! Great video-thanks!
@asd1234asd1234asd
@asd1234asd1234asd 7 месяцев назад
They are still doing T1 in HK. My last company has T1 as our standard network infrastructure for clients.
@michaeldemel4934
@michaeldemel4934 Год назад
The k12 school I worked at had a T1 for many years and we eventually started to saturate that T1 link. At that point we ended up getting another T1 and bonded it with the existing T1 which helped for a while. At the time we really didn't have much choice for high speed internet. We ran the Cisco 2501 and had a Cisco 6509 Core and ran Cisco edge switches. I still remember when we updated the fiber between the four campuses from a single shared 100Mb link to four dedicated 1 Gig links (I think that was 2007).
@ericsharesvideo
@ericsharesvideo Месяц назад
So many memories from helping setup a local ISP. Great series.
@michaelhanson5773
@michaelhanson5773 Год назад
I remember kids in school (early high school) talking about getting these ... it was crazy and the speeds were crazy compared to what we were used to. I remember kids saying they wanted t1 t2 and t3 lines for their houses but were crazy expensive.... getting geeked out over a t1 at school brings back memories... those were the days...
@tenalafel
@tenalafel Год назад
You should also need to talk of the BRA ( Basic Rate Access ) since it was also part of the ISDN suite with the T1/E1 and provided up to 144Kbits/s ( with tricks and the correct hardware + subscription ) when the norm was 56Kbauds... Also, since T1 is American Specific, in Europe it's called E1 and it's a 2048Kbits/sec link ( 32*64K [with up to 30 usable for data] ) Edit : Oh and in lots of place in Europe, we used V.36, or X.21/V.11... V.35 was usually seen as a PITA due to the two different pin sizes that could be on the connectors and the indecent size of said connectors ( V.36 and V.11 use Sub-D sized connectors [ 15 pins for V.11, 37 pins for V.36 ]
@gorillaau
@gorillaau Год назад
To the best of my knowledge, Asia settlers on E1 standard. I was in SE Asia and we were putting in a Terminal server, connected to the Master Exchange at the Telco. We had a stumbling issue in that we couldn't get the E1 cards to go into the Exchange at a reasonable price. Fun days.
@simonbyrd6518
@simonbyrd6518 Год назад
A lot of this was my life at Qwest at one time- finding spare pairs to provision a T1 (or anything lower like a 56K or ISDN etc), calculating the losses and if it would require repeaters and how much the job would cost, then working with the crews to solve roadblocks ("you can't put a pedestal there" "turns out the pair is too noisy"). Also, It's astounding how expensive an OC-12 or 24 cost at the time, yet I now have an equivalent fiber line for less than $100/mo
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 11 месяцев назад
I learned more about CLEC, ILEC, "last mile," and the magic phrase "necessary and adequate," than I ever wanted to know when I became involved in a dispute between Qwest and our ILEC while trying to get a T1 installed between our MI and it-doesn't-matter-what-the-other-state-was - MI was the problem. I can't imagine you guys having to deal with that all day every day - hats off.
@gus473
@gus473 6 месяцев назад
Glad I spent a bit of time with US West, but just as glad to have moved on before it became Qwest. ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯
@bearb1asting
@bearb1asting 16 дней назад
I'm about to start an ISP, and it's all fiber. I'll definitely miss the old ways.
@chimpo131
@chimpo131 10 дней назад
thankfully fiber can go hundreds of miles with a repeater/signal amplifier with the right glass/transceiver. no more crosstalk or signal integrity issues
@drdrums1
@drdrums1 Год назад
Wow, that brings back memories. I was an ISP network admin back in '96 and managed all that equipment - the AdTran, Cisco 2500, plus a Radius server for a bank of dialups. We had a fractional T1 at first. but it still beat out any modem connection.
@JK-mo2ov
@JK-mo2ov Год назад
Wow that was well done. Insane to have a proper BGP route published by a 2500 series. It could barely fit a fraction of all current routes in its memory.
@bassman87
@bassman87 Год назад
thats why he contracted the upstream ISP to send him the default route rather than the full internet routing table. Its fine for his setup as he's not multihoming, but for a real ISP they would want to multihome, and therefore want the full internet routing table. I actually have a few customers of mine that requested the full routing table, which was wild to see cause for enterprise businesses you don't need to have the full table unless you want to become a transit network on the internet.
@alzeNL
@alzeNL Год назад
I was wondering why they wasnt using RIPv2 for this, but still interesting to see BGP in use.
@bassman87
@bassman87 Год назад
@@alzeNL because RIPv2 is an IGP and not intended to use between autonomous systems. BGP is basically the last remaining EGP for use in advertising routes between AS.
@BogdanSass
@BogdanSass Год назад
​@@bassman87You can multihome just fine while only receiving a default from both providers :) . Like you said a bit later, it is actually uncommon in the enterprise to get more than a default, even when multihoming.
@bassman87
@bassman87 Год назад
@@BogdanSass you're correct from an enterprise point of view, Enterprises don't typically want to become a transit network, where internet traffic from one peer passes through your network to get to another peer. This is where multihoming with default routes works great, cause you can advertise you're public block to both peers without becoming a transit network. effectively you are a stub network at that point. But from an ISP perspective in many cases you want to be a transit network. so having the full internet routing table allows you to perform best path calculations for destinations between peers.
@Zerbey
@Zerbey День назад
I worked for an ISP in the late 1990s in the UK. We would order a fire alarm circuit from the customer location to our office, then attach a couple of DSL routers on either end. Depending on distance you got anywhere up to 2Mbit of bandwidth. The one at my house was "only" 512Kbit but worked amazingly well. Once British Telecom started selling their own ADSL service they stopped allowing us to do this, but for a few years we were one of the only place in the UK selling DSL lines.
@willjudy5623
@willjudy5623 11 месяцев назад
Man these type of videos make me feel old. I've setup T1s and T3s. I guess that is why I've been doing this for 30 years.
@thecooldude9999
@thecooldude9999 Год назад
Great video! One note on the smartjack you have: it converts HDSL2 on the telco side into a T1 signal on the customer side. HDSL2 is a method of transmitting a T1 over a single copper pair rather than two. It also allows for a longer distance between repeaters, 9,000 feet vs 6,000 feet with a regular T1. The HDSL2 standard was published in 2000. The previous generation of HDSL came out in 1994 and had similar advantages, but used two pairs. HDSL1 allows for a distance of 12,000 feet between repeaters.
@kmonyt
@kmonyt Год назад
Love this video! I worked for Cisco in 1995 and getting businesses online meant either ISDN(64k or 128k), fractional T1/T1, and frame relay. I helped many customers with either buying or setting up their Cisco 2501's, and worked with all of the technologies including that adtran unit, you mention in the video. I haven't heard these terms in years but would have to educate customers daily on proper setup, correct configurations, troubleshooting, etc. Loved this stuff!!
@gwesco
@gwesco Год назад
I was the telecom tech for a large hospital group and we had T1 before the telco's offered it. It was implemented using microwave between two hospitals on opposite sides of town. It was used for data and telecom. Eventually the telco was able to offer T1 so we used them until other companies provided better/cheaper service via fiber. I think we had 72 T1's by the time I retired. Many of them were configured as ISDN with 23 bearer and 1 data channel per span for voice. I still have a couple of ADIT channel banks that I use for my antique telephone connections with an Asterisk box.
@Brian-L
@Brian-L Год назад
What a fun series! I was an escalation engineer at Lucent. I spent countless hours walking people through configuring those Adtrans. Ah, the good ‘ol days.
@TheRealTrididos
@TheRealTrididos Год назад
A fond memory I have of the early 90s BBS days was upgrading from my 14.4 to a Supra 28.8 pre- standardization. Supra told me I was going to be the "first" in Texas to have one (never believed it, but they did a good job making me feel special). I still get thrilled when I see those old aluminum Supra cases, though. What a fun time to in the game, connecting people via fido and wwivnet and every kind of sharing that brought me a couple of life-long friends.
@parkerlreed
@parkerlreed Год назад
I started with a company in 2014 with about 40 laptops all served by a single T1 connection... That was hell.
@alexdhall
@alexdhall Год назад
Wow and I thought running a business on a T1 in 2005-2006 was bad back then.....😬
@gremfive4246
@gremfive4246 Год назад
Ah the T1... In the late 90's I had 2 friends that were the only techs for a local ISP. They would invite me up on weekend nights to join them gaming on the ISPs connection, as long as I brought the beer. Was so sweet playing Quake from there when your opponents were all on 33.6 modems..... actually it was more of a turkey shoot. >=)
@wlovins0
@wlovins0 Год назад
Watching this was a blast as it brought up so many wonderful mamories of my time at Florida Internet back in 1996. We had 4 T1 lines each from different providers, Adtran csu/dsu's, tons of punch down blocks for dial-in lines, racks of Portmaster 2's along with external modems with the cases removed and a custom bracket to make it rack mountable, Cisco 2501, and our servers (BSD/OS (using Pentium Pro cpus) and Solaris 2.5.1). I even certified in that version of Solaris at the time. Every piece of this was just loads of happy memories and I can't wait to see the next part to add dial-up capabilities.
@Dream.of.Endless
@Dream.of.Endless Год назад
This brings back memories. When an ISP in my country started offering T1 internet services, i went to them and asked if i could have it for my home. Truth being told, i didn't knew what T1 was at that time...in the mid 90s, to me it was just an internet link. The engineers with whom i talked, asked how many apartments in my building will be connected with T1. I was like why, i just want it for myself. They smiled and told me it would have cost $1000/month to bring T1 in your building. In the end, i got a dial up with that sweet sweet tone to listen to. And i used it only to chat via IRC...nothing else.
@Codemonkey564
@Codemonkey564 8 месяцев назад
Wanted to thank you for these videos, just started studying networking and it has helped so much going back to basics and understanding how it worked back in the day.
@ricki11cook
@ricki11cook Год назад
I've always wanted to build my own retro ISP as I was too young & inexperienced to work for one in the 90's, however I was facinated by how it all worked. So this series is very satisfying to watch & bringing back a lot of memories. Keep up the great work!
@datashed
@datashed 5 месяцев назад
The datashed uses a T1 for its actual internet service! Through GTT Telecommunications, with a smart jack and the whole nine. Using a 3845 with an HWIC-1DSU-T1.
@jeremiahbullfrog9288
@jeremiahbullfrog9288 Год назад
I wish i knew all this stuff back then! Thanks for the trip down memory lane
@ptraz76
@ptraz76 Год назад
That brings back memories of working at a school district. Each building had a T1 line - the speed was amazing back in the day. Especially when school was closed - we (the IT team) would come in and surf using the T1's since nobody was on them.
@rayarsenault4774
@rayarsenault4774 25 дней назад
I remember at near the end of T1's life, having to order one to connect two sites together that were about 1/2 mile apart. The company used vSat to communicate, but one site was blocked by mountains. They'd been using a dedicated dial connection on POTS, but there was no SLA, and as the ILEC went to contractors, line cuts were common. A pots line had an SLA of "whenever we get to it," so the client site couldn't do debit/credit, report sales, or order product. The ILECs mind was blown that I wanted a t1, but they didn't offer DSL from that CO at the time. The vSat connection was only 4800bps, bc it was just encrypted text, and was all they needed.
@mikefinnerty1852
@mikefinnerty1852 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely top quality video. Great job! This video must have taken a lot of work. Fun to watch, and I relearned a bunch of stuff. Can't wait for the next episode!
@davidca96
@davidca96 Месяц назад
Thanks for this, as a teenager in the 90's we dreamed of T1's, they were a mythical dream because they were so absurdly expensive (1500-2000 a month, and thats back then) but I landed a short part time job with someone who ran a dialup ISP and was able to sit at the server and download stuff. When you were so used to seeing 22-44kbps or so (you never got true 56k speed, ever) suddenly downloading a picture in seconds was remarkable. Nowadays its laughable how slow it was back then but thats all we had.
@MikeHarris1984
@MikeHarris1984 Год назад
Holy crap, how have i nit found this channel?!!?!?? New sub here now!!!! Awesome content!!!!
@ax-jv9hm
@ax-jv9hm Год назад
This is awesome! Thanks for the video!
@chrismecca7738
@chrismecca7738 Год назад
This was great, would love to see more info about the greater lab, specifically how you're simulating the T1 circuitry between (presumably your LAN) and the SmartJack...
@BryanSeitz
@BryanSeitz Год назад
Having lived this era, I don't want to return :). Great videos!
@Currawong
@Currawong Год назад
This brings back memories of the days when everyone and their dog would set up a dialup ISP in their house.
@marklewus5468
@marklewus5468 Год назад
In 1996 I was a Software Dev Manager for Dialogic Corp.,, the then leader in voicemail and voice response systems for business. I needed surgery and had to work at home for a couple of months so they installed “fractional T1”, two bonded 56K lines. That gave me 112Kb/s of 24/7 Internet connectivity. Compared to the 56K modems in use at the time that usually connected at 33.6K, it was heaven on earth. Thanks for the memories!
@dirtapple1716
@dirtapple1716 Год назад
This is so nostalgic, I learned about and configured all this in 2006, going through my CCNA course in high school.
@Shadowhurtz
@Shadowhurtz Год назад
And then I'm sitting here, watching this video on this cutting edge 1.5Mbps... on my brand new gigabit install :D
@10p6
@10p6 Год назад
In the late 90's I knew someone who had a business server with three T1 lines, and I said where I worked we had a T3 line. He said it was the same speed, and I said 'Not even close."
@hg-sx5nk
@hg-sx5nk Год назад
That was a great video! Just to share with y'all, in Brazil we use Euro standards and an E1 channel provides 30 voice channels or 2Mbps data. Back in 1995, the telco delivered to the E1 customer a single pair to the CO/PoP, an HDSL modem with G.703 output (TX and RX through BNC connectors or twisted pairs) and, if needed, a G.703 to V.35 interface.
@InCaldera
@InCaldera 11 месяцев назад
Awesome video. Surfing DALnet and the other popular IRC servers in the mid to late 90s, you'd always hear about T1 from secondhand sources but obviously 99% of people didn't have access to the technology. You hit the nail on the head, T1 definitely had mythical status.
@e_fission
@e_fission Год назад
Fascinating! An actual T1 demonstrated end-to-end… always wanted to see that. Looking forward to the next one!
@jaredbater6229
@jaredbater6229 Год назад
Omg this series is so good. I'm feeling so nostalgic ❤
@flush_me
@flush_me Год назад
This is really taking me back and I can pretty much play along at home. I was involved with a computer group in the late 90's in Melbourne Aus, who provided ISP access to the members. We used a AS2511RJ as the access server with 16 external 33.6k modems connected to it. (I still have the router and use it sometimes as a terminal server at home). This connected to a 1003 (I think) ISDN router with dual 64k BRI interfaces to the upstream provider. We didn't use a Sparc as a server but old MACs running custom software. (I personally own a SS10 that could be used). I also have a Cobalt Raq2 that the power supply died on in a thunderstorm and have jerry-rigged an external power supply to it that has an interesting past. In the early 2000's the Aus government changed laws relating to hosting of adult material. The site operators just moved their hosting off-shore instead of having to comply with the new rules and abandoned the equipment in a server room. This equipment just become available for staff to take and I ended up with it trough a friend.
@bdhaliwal24
@bdhaliwal24 Год назад
This brings me back to working on this stuff for a startup back in the 1990s straight out of school. Same stuff in this video, from the Adtran, the Cisco router and even the transceiver. The first machine we hooked this all into was a Sun Sparc 2.
@andrew8293
@andrew8293 Год назад
This siries is what i've been wanting for years! Keep up the awesome stuff!
@NatesRandomVideo
@NatesRandomVideo Год назад
Did sooooo much work on this sort of gear back then. Also taught the various protocols and troubleshooting them. Have Sage (T1 test set), will travel! Lol. You knew you were having fun when you got a grumpy call from MCI to stop crashing their DMS central office switch by whistling into a giant conference bridge (we were the manufacturer), which was setting the second most significant bit across 240 DS0s simultaneously - the “robbed bit” way of saying “yellow alarm” to the equipment at the other end of a T1… and causing the entire T1 circuit to flush down all phone calls on all 24 DS0s and reset the T1 circuit. One of the major benefits of ESF was this couldn’t happen - the alarm bits were moved out of the DS0s. Good times. Physical / hard loopbacks were stellar for end to end circuit tests. “Fake” software loopbacks couldn’t always be trusted. Numerous early CSU/DSU boxes had horrendous firmware bugs. And carriers had lord only knows how many devices along a path misconfigured to respond to in-band loop up commands, so you never really knew where you were testing to. If you really want a mind bender… think about this. A T1 circuit was synchronous. As copper coax and later fiber came on the scene, multiplexing a DS1 into a DS3 was common. And a DS3 was asynchronous - but still needed a master clock source. Wrapping your brain around that, is pure entertainment. I “remotely troubleshot” a T1 issue where the circuit wouldn’t come up and some very grumpy military brass were quite antsy. Something about a rather well known missile test range. After looking over a diagram that was faxed to us - we were the DS3 and DS1 equipment manufacturer - that looked like it was drawn in sharpie… my brain said “check that there’s one click source set somewhere on this stupid path. Asked em… heard someone in the background yell “it’s up!”, got thanked, and apparently some nifty middle test wasn’t cancelled that day. Haha. Fun to watch you guys building all this old old stuff on a tiny scale. I dealt with hundreds of DS3s and thousands of DS1s. Cheers.
@mrichter4681
@mrichter4681 Год назад
👍
@EricNusbaum
@EricNusbaum Год назад
I recall at one of my early jobs around 2001 we had a T1 hooked up to a 2600 just as this video for our office internet, and our ISP offered us support for the compression AIM over our T-1 which felt like going from Full Impulse to Warp 9! We'd usually see speeds anywhere between 3-4mbps depending (I think the theoretical max, assuming maximum compression, was ~8mbps 🔥)
@extorter
@extorter Год назад
Love this, I've worked in VoIP for 15 years and we still use this technology to this day for voice circuits (PRI).
@RobertGallop
@RobertGallop Год назад
Would love to hear about how you got a class c, what it’s costing, and how you were able to get an ASN. Please, this is so interesting, I would love a deeper technical dive!
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 Год назад
I feel bad he's hoarding IP addresses but also good that Amazon isn't hoarding these addresses
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Год назад
@@thewhitefalcon8539 I have... *recently* ... worked with a few customers that still have SLASH EIGHTS in production. Their freakin printers have public IPs, and I'm just like.... wwwhhhhyyyyyyy??
@michaelheuss6502
@michaelheuss6502 Год назад
One of the benefits of working for some of those Tier 1 ISPs in the 90s (such as Digex) was a subsidized T1 to your house. I miss that. :)
@michaelheuss6502
@michaelheuss6502 Год назад
The default CPE was a Cisco 1005 but I later used a 2514 to isolate my two routable networks.
@ChasBlobster
@ChasBlobster 2 месяца назад
A few fun facts... 1) those poor 2500 series router could technically run two T1s, but if your upstream wanted to use MPPP to bond two together (so you could achieve single-stream speeds above 1.5Mb/s) and you actually ran a pile of customers behind it, the CPU just couldn't cope. 2) don't use ethernet cables for T1s, the pinout/pairs are different and if it's a "real" T1 (see below), you can really waste a telco tech's time troubleshooting this - it can work on a short distance or from a smart jack to the CSU, but one of your T1 pairs is going to be split over two ethernet pairs... 3) in bell atlantic territory, they very quickly moved from "real" T1s to HDSL - to the customer, it looked like a T1, but it was actually an xDSL technology that removed the need for repeaters (and some would argue, some of the reliability, esp. as techs were coming up to speed with it) - I think I started seeing these in NYC around '98? 4) frame relay T1s were really common then and were generally cheaper than a fractional T1 since they did allow for some oversubscription for your upstream - it was kind of a simpler precursor to ATM. In the old days, UUNet even used frame relay encapsulation for their T1s in the NYC market - my memory is fuzzy on this, but I believe the main reason was not to oversubscribe, but the cost of a Cisco channelized T3 card (IIRC around $60K when I last bought one) vs. a T3 frame relay card ($10K?)...
@manonthedollar
@manonthedollar Месяц назад
I was the only tech savvy person I knew when I was a kid during this era in rural Michigan. I read about T1 and was determined to convince my parents to upgrade our 14k modem. I filled out a form on some ISP's website to have a sales rep call me. He did, and when he learned I was 11 years old, I think he figured out what was going on. Nonetheless, he talked to me for probably an hour, explaining many of the things in this video, patiently and kindly answering every single question I had. I literally couldn't believe I was actually talking to another real person about computers and they didn't think I was a weirdo. I still think about that convo sometimes. Hope he's doing well, whoever he is/was.
@jfbeam
@jfbeam Год назад
That "transceiver card" is called a "Smartjack". In the olden days, it was the interface for the telco to test the line, and tell if the CPE was even connected. For over 20 years, that card has actually be a converter - 2-wire HDSL on the telco side, and 4-wire T1 on the cpe side. That's what you appear to be hanging on the wall. (note the 2 fuses on the right [net] and 4 on the left [user]) There's a complete little computer in there, accessible from that DB9 serial port.
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 Год назад
Oh so it's basically running a T1 emulation layer over DSL, not real T1? The channel guy will be so disappointed!
@jfbeam
@jfbeam Год назад
@@thewhitefalcon8539 It's a T1 at your equipment, why do you care what it is beyond that? Even when carriers delivered a "True T1", it was rarely a T1 end-to-end; they were almost always multiplex into larger circuits (T3, OC-x) When the world became ethernet, T1's became an emulated service. (see also: Circuit Emulation Service)
@caturdaynite7217
@caturdaynite7217 Год назад
I've used many an ADTRAN front panel back in my contract work days. I always worked on the CPE side of the DEMARC. $75/hr in 1997 was good money. Unfortunately lots of driving and not always in the daytime. Great video, took me back to another time.
@KW160
@KW160 Год назад
This is excellent. This greatly resembles my first experience on the internet in ~1995. I dialed into a SparcStation 20 running Solaris 2.4.
@sarym
@sarym Год назад
oh my ... great episode!!! Hopefully maybe you have some Livingston Portmasters in your terminal servers episode ;)
@BlakeRGardner
@BlakeRGardner Год назад
I very rarely comment on videos but this series is absolutely mind blowing. Keep up the good work
@Stratotank3r
@Stratotank3r Год назад
Just stumbled about this cool vid! I am in the ISP business here in Germany and we used E1 Lines in framed (30 channels at 64000kbit) oder unframed (2048kbit/s) configuration. I still have 2 Cisco 2501 with Rj45 and BNC AUI Transceivers. Additionally 3 Cisco 2621XM and WIC-2T Cards. Use the stuff to show the beginning of the modern Internet to our apprentices. None of them were born when the 2500 Series went out of service. Now I feel old again.
@tarik158
@tarik158 11 месяцев назад
I started working at an ISP in the late 90s and immediately fell in love with the idea of having a T1. And now I write this from a 1 gigabit fiber line.
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 11 месяцев назад
That Adtran front panel brings back memories. We had a dedicated "point-to-point" T1 connecting two offices, and I thought those voice/data maps were just the coolest thing. During the day, you might dedicate 8 or 10 channels to voice, making it possible to dial-by-extension four states away, just the same way you called someone in the next cube. In the 1990's, avoiding long distance tolls was not an insignificant thing, though at the price of a P2P T1 you better be making a lot of inter-office calls. Then at night, you might switch the map to dedicate all 24 channels for data to transfer backups.
@battleop
@battleop Год назад
I remember every bit of this stuff. I worked on 2501s, had those same CSU/DSUs and had PortMasters for dialup customers. I even got into working for an ISP around 1999 because I got access to faster access to Napster. :)
@Triangulum303
@Triangulum303 11 месяцев назад
This is great. My dad had a T1 when I was in highschool around 2000 and it was the equivalent feeling of the early adopters of Google Fiber.
@gdunner4855
@gdunner4855 Год назад
I had a t1 line up until a couple of years ago in my house. We lived in a rural community where more people got on the dsl the traffic and the speeds would dump. The t1 line took a lot to start up because they couldn’t understand it going to a home but used it for a long time and worked great. Then moved to starlink and then fiber.
@cbrunnkvist
@cbrunnkvist Год назад
Man I've always wondered how this stuff after the DEMARC looked and worked in practice - this video greatly helped me towards cracking one of life's mysteries @11:20 *thank you* #ISPhealing
@eugeniomartinboni8860
@eugeniomartinboni8860 Год назад
Can't wait for the modem part! This is so lovely, thanks for the great work!
@Brando56894
@Brando56894 Месяц назад
Wow, I had no idea that setting up a T1 was so complex. Our first computer in '95 had a 33.6k modem and I lusted over a T1 connection. I remember in middle school we had a 128k ISDN line and even that was amazing. This is pretty cool to watch, I'm not a network guru at all, I'm a Linux SysAdmin so I've never really seen this side of stuff. I know a bit about BGP and that's it.
@marksimmons7906
@marksimmons7906 Год назад
Reminds me of how we phone trunked PBX's... the good old days. GREAT video.
@StephanieDaugherty
@StephanieDaugherty Год назад
Bringing back a lot of memories, worked for a few different ISPs back in the dialup era.
@tad2021
@tad2021 Год назад
Our two AT&T T1 lines were over $8000/month in to the early 2010's when a second ISP finally installed in to our metropolitan area in the middle of Southern California. T1 was the best AT&T would do as they only had copper laid to the entire region. AT&T here had like an unspoken policy not to upgrade any commercial or industrial only area to FTTN, so for anything faster than 1.5 for general internet access, the bet they would offer for less than $25k/m was 5/0.7 ADSL, which was around $200/m including all the fees and required (unused) POTS lines.
@georgegrubbs2966
@georgegrubbs2966 Год назад
Brings back good memories of when we first got our T1 line. Lightning speed. Great series.