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The Atlantic's Jennifer Senior explores how the family of Bobby McIlvaine struggles to make sense of his loss on the 20th anniversary of the attacks.
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@annamello8172
@annamello8172 2 года назад
His brothers voice shakes the whole time. I can feel his pain. It's still raw.
@bobbigarcia882
@bobbigarcia882 2 года назад
Ugh im literally in tears. Hes in pain till this day
@roserocks1979
@roserocks1979 2 года назад
He was trying so hard not to cry.
@brandy1079
@brandy1079 2 года назад
😥
@Justicesfor
@Justicesfor 2 года назад
It’s also weird that you have 175 likes atm. Flight number.
@Whalee39
@Whalee39 2 года назад
The brother is still so hurt. His voice is heartbreaking. I wish she would give him the journal sheesh…🙏🏽
@ganymededarling
@ganymededarling 2 года назад
She did give the family the journal. If you read the article, the mom has hundreds of pages of his journals and she will not even read them. Jen has a 17 pg journal that he wrote all about her and how much he loved her. Once the mom saw copies of what was in the diary, she regretted even making a big deal of it.
@deidre354
@deidre354 2 года назад
People who haven't read the amazing article should know that he had many journals, and the last one he had was all about her. He had asked her father if he could propose to her just two days before 9/11. While everyone was in grief and shock, she asked his father if she could have that last journal. She definitely had some selfish moments when she did not want to share it with his family later on, but she was also very young. Years later she eventually did share it with his family and his mom acknowledged that she could see why she (the gf) wanted to keep it to herself. They've all forgiven each other over this.
@KS-cl8br
@KS-cl8br 2 года назад
As should the girlfriend. He wrote about her so it should be hers. Thanks for the update.
@dharmawannab
@dharmawannab 2 года назад
Thank you for clearing this up. I feel like there was more to say on this but George just brushed right past it. So thank you.
@amelieholbrook3001
@amelieholbrook3001 2 года назад
How do you know? I feel so sad for his mom, dad, and brother. The ex-girlfriend came off as very arrogant to me, like she knew him better than his own family. Shame on her.
@deidre354
@deidre354 2 года назад
@@amelieholbrook3001 I literally said how I know - I actually read the article, which interviews the mother, the father, and the girlfriend - where they all stated exactly what I said.
@cluvsonj
@cluvsonj 2 года назад
@@deidre354 Yes it was as if she did not read what you said at all and apparently has not read the article and judging the girl just because of this interview. You have tried to clear up what was not said which I was glad to see for I wondered about that for it was cut off so abruptly.
@DannyCosmos
@DannyCosmos 2 года назад
The brother is still mad she kept the journal …
@xxLoRiTaxx
@xxLoRiTaxx 2 года назад
I could feel the tension between the ex gf and brother from here
@QS-si3cq
@QS-si3cq 2 года назад
Gf sounded fine, but the brother....ooph.
@peacelife
@peacelife 3 года назад
Wow! Can't believe it has been 20 yrs. Beautiful way how they kept his memories alive ❤
@sandibonner4808
@sandibonner4808 2 года назад
Unless the fiancee was planning on publishing the journal for money I don't understand why the journal wasn't copied and both of them could have had a copy. Something is left out of this story.
@eisenhower9069
@eisenhower9069 2 года назад
Yess
@gmlaster
@gmlaster 2 года назад
I agree. What kind of person doesn’t share a son’s last words with his mother?!!
@texican5619
@texican5619 2 года назад
@@gmlaster someone who wants to perhaps keep private things about them to herself and maybe not wanting the mother and others to read it?! Not selfish at all.
@gmlaster
@gmlaster 2 года назад
@@texican5619 It’s profoundly selfish to think that she’s the only thing he ever wrote about. He journaled, which means that it almost certainly wasn’t all about her. His family has as much right (if not more) to his thoughts about them as she had to his thoughts about her. It was the height of selfishness for her to put her need for privacy ahead of his family’s need to have his thoughts. And it’s even more selfish given the fact that a Xerox copier could’ve easily provided literally everybody concerned an opportunity to know how he felt about them. She hogged it all for herself with no consideration for the OTHER people he loved. Lucky for them he didn’t marry her. That super selfish move proves that they were just seeing the tip of the iceberg of how low she could stoop.
@kanyebreast6072
@kanyebreast6072 2 года назад
@@gmlaster Agreed.
@bshutloveqb14
@bshutloveqb14 2 года назад
He was so handsome. I was five years old on 9/11 which means I am just about the age he was when he died. May his soul Rest In Peace.
@documax123
@documax123 3 года назад
He seemed to be a lovely young fella. And although he already did, he would have brought so many more great things to people and to the world.
@nicolemar3975
@nicolemar3975 3 года назад
this absolutely broke my heart. my moms best friend’s husband died at the same conference that Bobby went to❤️
@kargudin
@kargudin 3 года назад
Crazy
@kelseyjay3733
@kelseyjay3733 2 года назад
What conference was it
@nicolemar3975
@nicolemar3975 2 года назад
@@kelseyjay3733 the 2001 risk waters financial technology congress
@masonmccarthy1930
@masonmccarthy1930 2 года назад
My great Friends uncle is Bobby. He’s named after him
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
@@nicolemar3975 what floor was the conference on and which building? Asking because I found out yesterday that there was a conference with 100 people on the 106th floor of the north tower/ World Trade 1, so wondering if you’re referring to that same one?
@beautyan5309
@beautyan5309 2 года назад
The brother misses him very I felt the emotions I’m glad he married and was able to find love and children
@masonmccarthy1930
@masonmccarthy1930 2 года назад
He’s an amazing person. He takes me to soccer and I play on the same soccer team as Bobby, his kid. They are an amazing family and I feel so bad for them.
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
@@masonmccarthy1930 oh wow, are you Bobby’s friend from school or just a teammate, or both? Are you guys even teenagers yet? Asking because the picture of the whole family that shows the tallest boy, which I’m guessing is Bobby, doesn’t even look like a teenager but like 10-12 years old.
@masonmccarthy1930
@masonmccarthy1930 2 года назад
@@CrystallyLavender yeah we are both soccer and school friends. I’m 13 and he’s 12. He’s a great kid.
@charityboat881
@charityboat881 3 года назад
Rest in Peace !I never knew him but he seemed like an awesome guy ,gone too soon ,always remembered 🐦
@gigicassel1804
@gigicassel1804 3 года назад
I don't know what to say but a beautiful tribute to a man they all loved. I remember everything about 9/11 being that I was 22 and in school at the time. Really love the people that matter and show them that love because life is not always guaranteed
@sarahouma3297
@sarahouma3297 2 года назад
Why couldn't they just made copies so that everyone would be happy?
@karenweaver7574
@karenweaver7574 3 года назад
God bless this family and friends. We will never forget.
@cartereducationalconsultin7296
@cartereducationalconsultin7296 3 года назад
Loved this story about grief and remembrance
@StaceyJoy14
@StaceyJoy14 3 года назад
20 years 😭 We will NEVER forget!!!
@terrym5023
@terrym5023 3 года назад
Look at the state of our nation. It's long forgotten...
@StaceyJoy14
@StaceyJoy14 3 года назад
@@terrym5023 I hope we can come together again like we did on 9/12
@ckotcher1
@ckotcher1 3 года назад
I’m kind of surprised the girlfriend would get his journal over the brother? Especially since she’s married with children now and obviously it was a point of contention.
@e8fy823
@e8fy823 3 года назад
The article goes into it. It was complicated.
@allisonmcdougall5528
@allisonmcdougall5528 3 года назад
Definitely read the article not only does it give context and explanations but it is extremely well written . Grief is complicated and can take many forms.
@annemacleod1421
@annemacleod1421 3 года назад
As Allison comments, grief is complicated … so let’s not be judgemental. 🇳🇿🇳🇿🐑🐑
@MsAdreaL
@MsAdreaL 3 года назад
Agreed. You'd especially think that after having children herself, she'd grown in empathy and compassion for his family's request. Smh ("complicated" or not).
@fakeaccount704
@fakeaccount704 2 года назад
@@allisonmcdougall5528 I read the article and agree that it was complicated, but I still think what she did wasn’t right. She could’ve at least made photocopies and given it to his parents. And if she can’t even do that, maybe just let them know roughly what it said
@nightengale7163
@nightengale7163 3 года назад
It seems like yesterday. I still mourn with all of the families. 9/11: Never Forget 🇺🇲🙏💕
@freelove9890
@freelove9890 3 года назад
My aunt lost her god daughter candance on the first plane and my home town in ct lost 2 firemen. It was their first day serving in NYC 🕊.
@codijo-myalaskandog122
@codijo-myalaskandog122 3 года назад
Thank ~ You for your words. ❤
@juliamarin4896
@juliamarin4896 2 года назад
What a great guy, and such a lovely story. Thank you very much for sharing it. I know how much you still miss him to this day.
@welshblush
@welshblush 2 года назад
I really encourage everyone to read the article on which this interview is based. The author handled the complexity of the situation, and the attendant nest of complicated emotions all with great care and skill.
@cindydsouza4802
@cindydsouza4802 3 года назад
Its really sad that she didn't have the grace to give the book back to the mother
@RoyalMasterpiece
@RoyalMasterpiece 2 года назад
Pure selfishness of her.
@WithJazzyx
@WithJazzyx 2 года назад
If you were about to get engaged wouldnt you wanna keep his thoughts leading up to the day? Chances are he wrote very little about his mother anyway
@huhh2001
@huhh2001 2 года назад
@@RoyalMasterpiece selfishness? He was the love of her life and the diary was mainly about her and never mentioned the family anyway so ....
@joebagadonutsjr
@joebagadonutsjr 2 года назад
Read the article and you’ll understand.
@Ivy-ur2cg
@Ivy-ur2cg 2 года назад
It definitely seems selfish just hearing the surface of the story, but the article really delves into the heartbreak behind Jen’s actions. Ultimately, it’s revealed that Bobby’s mother has come to deeply understand why the journal hadn’t been returned to her for so long and also sympathizes with Jen, who was on the cusp of marrying a man who really adored and supported her but never receiving that form of relational/familial validation; after all, Helen IS Bobby’s mother but Jen never got to be his wife. And Helen actually does get to see it, even if it is after two decades!
@suzyq4982
@suzyq4982 2 года назад
Totally heartbreaking.. rest in peace Bobby ❤️ bit awkward between the gf and the brother . The family should have the journal x
@mariaordoqui9736
@mariaordoqui9736 3 года назад
Grief can take 5, 12, 20, 22 years..... For some people grieving is a life long process. So sorry this family was marked by the September 11 event. It seems like it was yesterday. So many people affected. So painful. Resilience to go on.
@kellysalone2779
@kellysalone2779 2 года назад
and he scored like a boss on Kobe...R.I.P. maybe there are playing one on one right now
@vaderthekittenchannel1979
@vaderthekittenchannel1979 3 года назад
Awwww, may God rest his soul and the souls of all the lost Americans that day. ❤️🙌🏾
@d.lawrence5670
@d.lawrence5670 3 года назад
What about the people who weren't Americans who died? They don't matter? Fuck you.
@TraumaSurvivorCynthia
@TraumaSurvivorCynthia 3 года назад
RIP Bobby😇💙 I also love keeping my Stepdad, teacher and Coach 🏀 Dave Sanders memory alive since he was murdered at Columbine High School on April 20,1999. ✝️#davesandersstepdaughter
@codijo-myalaskandog122
@codijo-myalaskandog122 3 года назад
Cynthia, I remember that DAY like I remember 9-11. You're a Remarkable Lady (I looked up your channel👍) & I'm PROUD of YOU! 🕊❤🐾
@TraumaSurvivorCynthia
@TraumaSurvivorCynthia 3 года назад
@@codijo-myalaskandog122 🤗 Thank you for your kindness to our family. ❤️ My goal is to show the world that life after trauma is possible and to not give up after a loss or breakup!! ✌️God has plans for each of us. 😇#davesandersstepdaughter
@jennyfurr
@jennyfurr 3 года назад
Hugs to you, Cynthia! Your dad seemed like a sweet teddy bear while also being very protective of his students. I’m so sorry for your loss. I’ll never forget that awful day as long as I live.
@codijo-myalaskandog122
@codijo-myalaskandog122 3 года назад
@@TraumaSurvivorCynthia I thought I'd tell you a little about me. In 2005 I lived in Alaska & had a MRI but we had to fly to Seattle for a different MRI. Then we got a call that in 5 days we had to fly back to Seattle for Surgery. Five days was Christmas... I had Stage 3 Brain Cancer. I was 41 my son was 18 but my other kids were still in Grade School... they struggle more than me. I wasn't expected to live more than 5 years. I'm still here ❤ with problems... but I'm still here! I have an endearing LOVE for GOD & JESUS but I don't understand when evil appears in places like School's & or the bigger places like Flights or even bigger places or what we've been through but I know GOD is there & HE WILL SUSTAIN US... ALWAYS. 🕊❤😊
@eileendoherty2836
@eileendoherty2836 3 года назад
So heartbreaking 💔
@traceycamille
@traceycamille 10 месяцев назад
His brothers oldest son looks just like his brother. Wow 💗💗🥺🙏🏽
@Dariusvoice
@Dariusvoice 2 года назад
I can’t believe it’s been 20 years. The day that changed America forever. The one day that America came together no matter race, religion, ethnicity, creed. A dark day in history
@davidfigueroa2979
@davidfigueroa2979 2 года назад
This is a diff kind of grief it’s the kind of grief that doesn’t get old everyday is fresh
@Ncstatewife
@Ncstatewife 2 года назад
They could have shown so many positives about this young man's life.... And they choose to focus on this tension....
@beautyan5309
@beautyan5309 2 года назад
Weird right
@silvia_music
@silvia_music 2 года назад
It’s the focus of the article. If you read it, the article is about the awkwardness of grief.
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
@@silvia_music could you please tell me the name of the article or share the link so I can read it, too?
@jeffl6799
@jeffl6799 2 года назад
So all of you guys responding who have not read the piece on this in the Atlantic, I highly recommend it. Even though it is damn near a book instead of an article. I felt so bad for the father for getting sucked down the 9/11 conspiracy rabbit hole for almost 20 years. The mother DOES get diary (or at least a copy of it), so that ends well. Also, it sounded like the father was finally ready of let it all be put to rest. Such a moving story. This video does not do it justice.
@mariefortunato4737
@mariefortunato4737 2 года назад
Beautiful tribute ❤
@Citrusfruits50
@Citrusfruits50 3 года назад
20 years already. Wow! 😿
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
I know! Feels like it was just yesterday…
@sawdust2556
@sawdust2556 3 года назад
💕💕🙏🏼🙏🏼A beautiful boy, a beautiful man.
@ncavlleguy
@ncavlleguy 10 месяцев назад
A beautiful life remembered greatly.. GOD BLESS HIS FAMILY
@FacheChanteDeux
@FacheChanteDeux 3 года назад
Rip, such tragic losses for all of the families- mine included.
@ckotcher1
@ckotcher1 3 года назад
I’m sorry to hear that 😞 Who did you lose in 911?
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
Yes, my condolences as well, who’d lose, if I may ask? I despise and hate all evil terrorists and murderers of any kind so much that I can’t even describe with words!!! Wish I had superpowers to annihilate them all!! Even if you don’t reply, I sincerely hope that you and your family and all the victims’ families are somehow finding even just a small amount of peace and solace with the fond memories you have of the loved one(s) you lost. Take good care. ❤️
@pejpm
@pejpm 2 года назад
This article was amazing
@orianisortega3621
@orianisortega3621 2 года назад
Heartbreaking 🤧🥺🙏🏽
@Kari2025
@Kari2025 3 года назад
Great story, but I’m a little angry the gf has the journal. She should make copies of the entries she cherishes, and give it back to the family.
@MsAdreaL
@MsAdreaL 3 года назад
Period.!
@ddoubleu170
@ddoubleu170 3 года назад
Yes!
@RoyalMasterpiece
@RoyalMasterpiece 2 года назад
Give it back. She has a whole new life now. The Mother and Brother as well as the rest of Bobby’s family deserve it.
@oneDirection1Harry1
@oneDirection1Harry1 2 года назад
She deserved it. The book is about her not the family. And she was his soon to be fiancé.
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
@@oneDirection1Harry1 it’s about her only in the journal? If it is then I guess it’s not wrong for her to have it. However, she was still just a girlfriend, not even a fiancé yet, therefore, that status of being just a girlfriend is NOT close to being the same as a fiancé. So doesn’t matter if she “almost was,” as she just wasn’t, period. And you can’t compare the importance of a girlfriend to a fiancé. I also wonder why it’s impossible for her to share the journal if 20 year have passed and she’s got a family of her own for so many years already, especially when she knows all along how painful the brother and mom have been? I mean, if she, or anyone, is genuinely a kind and nice person, why would she insist on not sharing a mere journal with the poor guy’s extremely hurt brother and mom just to not see them endure more heartache from his sudden tragic death? Would you or anyone else feel comfortable and in the right to just stand by and watch her boyfriend’s sibling and mom suffer even more than they already have over some journal where it simply expresses his love for her? It’d have to be a person that’s a little cold and heartless to do that really. What’s the freakin’ big deal? Her simple kindness could’ve lessened their pain a little and she can’t even do that simple act of kindness? I’ve seen people treat perfect strangers much, much, much better than she has treated the brother and mom, overall something as small as a journal that is all about love.
@kittenmittons1968
@kittenmittons1968 2 года назад
I read the Atlantic article about this young man the other day. Long and well worth the 30 mins of reading💕
@pstuddy
@pstuddy 2 года назад
Did u cry?
@KimFsharpHarp
@KimFsharpHarp 2 года назад
The Atlantic also had a great article about the manager of Windows of the World who survived.
@fakeaccount704
@fakeaccount704 2 года назад
After reading the Atlantic article, I understand that the gf was dealing with very complex emotions after the loss of both her mother and her fiancé. However, how could she not see the grief of a mother? How could she be so callous as to not even give the mother a photocopy of the journal or even a hint as to what was written inside? His mother was literally pleading with her! If she knew that the journal would give some semblance of peace to his mother, how could she be so cold hearted? Yes, the contents of the final diary were primary about the gf, so obviously she feels very sentimental about it. If the mom knew that, she would likely let her keep it too. Why didn’t she at least tell the mom what was inside and why she wanted to hold onto it? The contents of Bobby’s previous diaries led his mom to believe that perhaps it contained more of his philosophical musings, thoughts, gratitude for his family, etc. That is why the mother was pleading with the gf. If she had a conscience, she would give it back to his mother and let his mother make the decision herself. And after reading about how kind the mother is, I’m sure she would give it back to the gf. The fact that gf cares so little for Bobby’s family’s sentiments shows that she would’ve been a terrible wife to Bobby. I understand the grieving process differs for each person, and that she wanted to keep some things for herself, but she had no right to hurt his mother in this way. She only cared about her feelings and what Bobby meant to her, not fully comprehending that he meant a lot to many people-especially his own mother. She was selfish. Period. I feel for his mother, and the pure agony she went through. I also feel deeply for the gf, but I don’t condone her actions. I hope she understands the sentiments of a grieving mother now that she has children of her own.
@oneDirection1Harry1
@oneDirection1Harry1 2 года назад
She had a right to be selfish. She lost the love of her life.
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
How hard is it for her to have shared the contents with the mom and brother over a simple journal that is all about love anyhow, especially when she knows how heartbroken they already are from his sudden and tragic passing? I’ve seen perfect strangers treat each other with much more kindness and compassion than she’s shown the family of the man she supposedly loved! It doesn’t cost her a thing, and, even if she was unwilling initially, couldn’t she have reached out and shared the contents after the first 10 years have passed? What’s the big freakin’ deal to show just a teeny, tiny bit of kindness to Bobby’s extremely-heartbroken mom and brother? She doesn’t even have the least bit of compassion for them even though she claims to have loved and cared for Bobby? That’s just incomprehensible that she cannot even do something so simple to ease just a teeny bit of their pain!! It’s almost as if her heart’s made of stone. I wouldn’t be able to just stand there and watch someone hurt when I can do something very simple to alleviate some of their pain. Like I said, even if not right away, why can’t she have done it sometime in the last 20 years, especially when she’s moved on with a family of her own within 2-3 years of Bobby’s passing? And they weren’t even engaged yet! Wow, unbelievably cold-hearted and selfish!!! I’m very disappointed that Bobby loved someone like her that much…what a shame. 😢
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
@@oneDirection1Harry1 really?! And sharing it with the mom and brother 10-15 years after would’ve been too much to asking of her? OMG, you gotta be kidding me! Like I said, I’ve seen perfect strangers treat each other with multiple, much, much more kindness and compassion when they’ve lost everything they’ve owned. Shocking to hear you keep repeating that she “has the right to be selfish” over something like this for 20 years when she wasn’t even a fiancé and has moved on many, many years ago to have her own family. What “love of her life?” She was only in her 20’s. It’d be fitting to call it the “love of her life” if she’s loved other men and was much, much older when he died. But even if we give her that, there’s no need to be so cold-hearted for so many years over a journal, especially to the brother and mom of the man she “supposedly” loved. People have treated perfect strangers much kinder and nicer than she’s treated Bobby’s brother and mom.
@margui6224
@margui6224 2 года назад
Julissa Wang: At the time the guy was the love of her life. Not anymore. She married and has kids now. She has her own life. But his brother and mom, they still struggling with the loss after all these years. The journal should stay with the family, not with her. She has her own family now.
@pinkysands
@pinkysands Год назад
@@oneDirection1Harry1 read the article. I think her actions were informed by grief but at the same time cruelty. She unnecessarily added to the pain of the family. All they wanted was a window into his thoughts. Why she denied them that and held on to it for so long, even after she had moved on is beggar's belief/
@rosierose1917
@rosierose1917 3 года назад
He'd be almost 50....I can't believe it
@emilycraig9939
@emilycraig9939 3 года назад
Prayers
@codijo-myalaskandog122
@codijo-myalaskandog122 3 года назад
I was... confused, shocked, absolutely shocked, then my grieve for the PEOPLE who were gone but then for the PEOPLE who were going to be gone & then for the ones who jumped (in no way do I blame or judge them). I was... wishing I was available to help one family, I felt so much compaction for the CHILDREN who loss anybody or even if they handed lost anyone but were scared & confused. The list I made goes on. Sometimes I think it will never stop. I THANK THE LORD FOR SOOO MANY THINGS TOO... THIS I WILL WRITE DOWN TO!
@sunnymane
@sunnymane 2 года назад
Aww he named his son after his big bro!
@tinaserrano2012
@tinaserrano2012 2 года назад
RIP ♥️ Forever missed
@williebrown7984
@williebrown7984 2 года назад
That journal belonged to his mother. The look on the brother's face at 4:02 says it all.
@Caffeinatedown
@Caffeinatedown 3 года назад
Wow. He had such a bright, bright future.
@susieuramoto7491
@susieuramoto7491 3 года назад
Never forget indeed. Compassion and kindness towards each other is our true nature. 💕💙
@codijo-myalaskandog122
@codijo-myalaskandog122 3 года назад
Susie you said a beautiful thing of love & holiness in such a peaceful way. ❤
@codijo-myalaskandog122
@codijo-myalaskandog122 2 года назад
@Jane O'Leary What's going on that you are feeling that way? I hope you're doing ok! Sorry it took so long to reply. 🕊☄❤
@CathyBill
@CathyBill 3 года назад
Girlfriend is very selfish.. not a nice person. Even if Dad said she could have the journal..knowing that his MOTHER wanted the journal she should have given it to her. What a mean and selfish thing to do. Huge lack of character.
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
Exactly, that’s what I say - huge lack of character, and, just basics humanity, really! I mean, I think it’s okay that she has it, but would it be sooooo freakin’ difficult to share the contents with the mom and brother after, say, 10 -15 years of his passing? OMG, gimme a break!! It’s such a simple thing to do and doesn’t cost her anything. And I’m even giving her 10-15 years to share it, for God’s sake! Perfect strangers have treated each other muck, much, much kinder and with much, much more compassion than she’s shown them in the last 20 years! Geesh! It’s like, really, she can’t just not even add more heartache to their already-very-broken heart by doing something so simple? And this from the woman “supposedly” claiming that Bobby was the “love of her life?” Wow, mind-blowing how she seems to have a heart made of stone! And yet, someone keeps commenting that “she has the right to be selfish because she lost the love of her life,” which doesn’t even make any sense whatsoever!
@baileycooper2310
@baileycooper2310 2 года назад
I knew the name sounded familiar Bobby’s Nephew was one of the children that spoke names of the victims and his uncle during the 9/11 ceremony this year. It was very sad to watch and to know more about his uncle saddens me even more.
@lauran.9427
@lauran.9427 2 года назад
Yeah....That "water" under the bridge... is SOOOO NOT GONE
@studyhistory2ctruth
@studyhistory2ctruth 2 года назад
Still cant believe people think Jan 6th was worse than 9/11
@nikkim7647
@nikkim7647 3 года назад
I’ll have to read this article because I think it’s odd the gf has the journal and not the family
@sarahouma3297
@sarahouma3297 2 года назад
If he was my son, I would have kept the original copy and shared the photocopy with the girlfriend, either that or Im not giving his journal.
@123f89
@123f89 3 года назад
Who decided to give the journal to the girlfriend instead of his mom
@sarahleony
@sarahleony 3 года назад
His dad did
@Inksanity
@Inksanity 3 года назад
His dad impulsively said yes when she asked if she could have it
@ilyssahagood8387
@ilyssahagood8387 2 года назад
Yeah
@RoyalMasterpiece
@RoyalMasterpiece 2 года назад
@@Inksanity Then his Mother should’ve asked for it back.
@oneDirection1Harry1
@oneDirection1Harry1 2 года назад
His girlfriend deserved it. It was about their relationship.
@mandyfarber6484
@mandyfarber6484 2 года назад
Give the journal to the family please
@ilyssahagood8387
@ilyssahagood8387 2 года назад
That's wrong. Give it back to the mother. She knew him his whole life and you come in to a tiny part of it. Give it back cuz that is her child. Make a copy and give the book back. Also sorry, but she looks like the selfish type to get angry and not give it back for some dumb reason. Or they could share it over the years like one gets it for however long then the other takes
@KS-cl8br
@KS-cl8br 2 года назад
It's one journal. The mother got all the rest. They said most of it the last one was about the woman he wanted to propose to.
@oneDirection1Harry1
@oneDirection1Harry1 2 года назад
She was not just a random woman. She was the love of his life . He was going to propose. She deserved that book
@vincently1995
@vincently1995 2 года назад
Nice reunion.
@stephenfermoyle4578
@stephenfermoyle4578 2 года назад
very sad such a young vibrant life taken for no reason
@PurpleResey
@PurpleResey 2 года назад
Those talking about the girlfriend and the journal need to actually read the article Jen Senior wrote in The Atlantic. Don’t judge without knowing, READ IT. It all makes sense, his parents understand and they’ve forgiven her.
@diedrike863
@diedrike863 2 года назад
Bobby McIlvaine would be 46 years old today.
@claudiaazcurra1946
@claudiaazcurra1946 2 года назад
For human decency she should give back to the family his journal!!
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
Or at least just share the contents with the brother and mom seeing as how heartbroken they already are from his sudden and tragic passing at such a young age. It’s a very simple act of kindness for her to do and yet, she’s not done that for 20 years. I’ve seen perfect strangers treat each other much kinder and with more compassion than she’s shown the still-very-heartbroken brother and mom. That really shows that she’s just not a nice person. 🙁 I mean, if she really loved and cared for Bobby, why would she have the heart to make them hurt even more than they already have been over such a small thing? It’s just a journal about his love for her, what’s the big freakin’ deal? Some girlfriend! I, and most everyone else, would not have the heart to use the journal to cause more pain for the boyfriend’s family when she could’ve easily shared the journal many years(like after 10 years have gone by) ago, even if not initially after obtaining it. Not too nice of a person, is she? How can she just stand by for 20 years and not do a very simple act of kindness towards the family of a man that she supposedly loved, which wouldn’t even have cost her a thing?
@Justicesfor
@Justicesfor 2 года назад
You can’t make copies of the journal? ???
@carolinegoss856
@carolinegoss856 2 года назад
She wasn’t married to him; she had no right to keep that journal. Had she been his wife, different story.
@tianalanise
@tianalanise 2 года назад
I agree
@charlotteruse158
@charlotteruse158 2 года назад
If you'd ever been in that circumstance you would believe otherwise. Unfortunately you AND others never have and that's a big problem. Some people. Wow.
@carolinegoss856
@carolinegoss856 2 года назад
Have you, Charlotte? I’m a mother and as the years pass the young lady will find another love, but for the mother he lives on and no one can ever replace him. The journal rightfully belongs to his next of kin. Do you have children, Charlotte?
@charlotteruse158
@charlotteruse158 2 года назад
@@carolinegoss856 Rightfully? By what definition? Having another love has not a thing to do with it. He loved her and he would have wanted her to know how he felt about her. Sadly he wasn't here, to express that to her, but was able to through his journal. He was going to "marry" her. You are saying that by "finding another love" it invalidated the love that she had with him. One cannot replace another. I'm not here to argue. Perhaps look at it from a different perspective. Let's think about, just once, what they may have wanted and not always about what we want.
@diandiaz9026
@diandiaz9026 3 года назад
I really don’t know all of the Details but I find it really hard to believe that the girlfriend ended up with a journal when really I feel it should’ve been the mother if she was able to get it if not the brother. A close family relative otherwise
@deidre354
@deidre354 2 года назад
The article is worth reading, it goes into detail about what that last journal said. Once the mother was able to read it, she understood why Jenn had so much grief over it and wanted to keep it. I wish this interview was able to go into that more.
@fakeaccount704
@fakeaccount704 2 года назад
@@deidre354 that’s fine, but why did the gf withhold the contents of the journal when the mother was literally pleading with her? That’s selfishness
@deidre354
@deidre354 2 года назад
@@fakeaccount704 I didn't say she wasn't, but if you read the article, it's all about how people grieve differently.
@fakeaccount704
@fakeaccount704 2 года назад
@@deidre354 I did read the article. She was selfish
@deidre354
@deidre354 2 года назад
@@fakeaccount704 once again, I literally never said she wasn't but go off I guess.
@BigSplenda1885
@BigSplenda1885 2 года назад
The guy narrating this sounds like he is just going through the motions and couldn't give less of a f--- about this story
@Dray91613
@Dray91613 2 года назад
Don't like Girlfriend. Brother doesn't either
@olaraay
@olaraay 2 года назад
anyone got a link to the article ?
@DannyCosmos
@DannyCosmos 2 года назад
Bro scan the entire journal and give it back to the mom … wtf ?
@veronica1625
@veronica1625 2 года назад
“Water under the bridge”? I’m sure his mom doesn’t think so. What a clown.
@schawnettarobinson8584
@schawnettarobinson8584 3 года назад
Grief is a process.
@Brendahu13
@Brendahu13 3 года назад
its a journey.
@schawnettarobinson8584
@schawnettarobinson8584 3 года назад
@@Brendahu13 Yes, it’s tough. I’m going through the process.
@giselestrauch5146
@giselestrauch5146 2 года назад
so many people lost for no apparent reason what a waste?!!!!
@Carousel5883
@Carousel5883 2 года назад
Wow he really loved his brother.if my brother dies Ill just move on swifly.Then again I'm a narcissistic self-centered jackass
@ellew4573
@ellew4573 Год назад
20 years is far too long to hold a grudge.
@gailcarey3597
@gailcarey3597 2 года назад
The botched withdrawal from Afghanistan is an insult to the memory of those lost on 9/11.
@beautyan5309
@beautyan5309 2 года назад
Not really
@warrenfourie511
@warrenfourie511 10 месяцев назад
The unnecessary wars we started over 9/11 are a much bigger insult to their memory - they brought suffering to hundreds of thousands more innocent families.
@andrewb4077
@andrewb4077 2 года назад
Got pregnant 4 years after he died but won’t give up the journal lol
@karenmbbaxter
@karenmbbaxter Год назад
There is some rare footage ( because camera phones weren't a thing before 9/11) of his brother's first game playing against Kobe Bryant ( before he was a star).......It's only 10 seconds of footage but it is genuine.....They will both be playing basketball in heaven now.
@sofakings2pid
@sofakings2pid 3 года назад
America needs to take LARGE breath and take a look where we have been, and where we are heading..........9/11 never forget
@Bstn02152
@Bstn02152 2 года назад
It took 20 years to give a 9/11 victims family his personal journal & the brothers college roommates sister writing a story about it? What am I missing here? How convenient 20 yrs later….
@rayoflight6505
@rayoflight6505 2 года назад
The girlfriend should give it back, she's not a blood relative and has moved on with her life. The brother clearly can't stand her.
@pinkysands
@pinkysands Год назад
I have read the article so many times - even taught it in my contemporary literature class (I am a professor) and Jenn was such an elusive character for myself and my students. Still can't understand why she refused for the parents to look at the diary, even when all they wanted was to photocopy it. It came across as vindictive and immature.The Diary could have so helped with the grief of the parents...
@warrenfourie511
@warrenfourie511 10 месяцев назад
You have no idea what she went through and why jt was important for her to keep the journal private. Blame the hijackers if you want to be angry at someone. These people are all innocent and should never have had to be in the positions they were in to begin with.
@janelle7263
@janelle7263 3 года назад
feel for the Brother. You don't give over stuff like this.
@technic_angel
@technic_angel 2 года назад
The father is trash for giving away belongings of his dead son. Nothing would be given away by my family until it was reviewed and agreed upon by all surviving members of the immediate family.
@Rcdmj-78769
@Rcdmj-78769 2 года назад
The man was consumed with grief over the loss of his first-born son who died under the most horrific, unimaginable, and tragic of circumstances. For g*ds sake have a little bit of compassion and understanding. They found the journal right after he died, so he was probably still in shock. Your comment is completely insensitive and disrespectful to his family. Don't speak ill of the dead? Well, don't speak ill of a dead man's family, ESPECIALLY not his father. Shame on you!
@tropicthndr
@tropicthndr 3 года назад
Saudi’s say, you have no meaning, our military contracts between the two nations mean more than village peasants tears.
@ifka8123
@ifka8123 2 года назад
Girlfriend is mean 🙄bad person. Mother should have the journal. She already moved on . Her mom clearly not
@nataliemeenakshithegreat7780
@nataliemeenakshithegreat7780 10 месяцев назад
The girlfriend must have suffered a lot of sue was indeed truly in love poor Bobby he sounded and looked so great he was awesome this must have been hard on his parents and brother the girlfriend sounds cold detached and her voice is horrible
@giselestrauch5146
@giselestrauch5146 2 года назад
hate when people say get over things
@giselestrauch5146
@giselestrauch5146 2 года назад
why fight over journal so frivilious
@susuho675
@susuho675 2 года назад
after hearing the girlfriend, the first thing i thought was why in the world would she have the journal. one of many journals or not, his complete writings should be in possession of his family. full~stop.
@CrystallyLavender
@CrystallyLavender 2 года назад
What a shame that Bobby loved this seemingly cold-hearted woman enough to have wanted to marry her, when she can’t have extended a teeny bit of kindness and compassion towards his mom and brother in the last 20 years by simply sharing the journal with them!! It’s fine that she has it, but after, say, 10-15 years, which’s a very, very long time, can’t she have just a teeny, tiny bit of compassion towards his still-extremely-heartbroken mom and brother, and let them read the journal that’s all about love anyway? Especially when she’s moved on and gotten married and has had a family of her own within just 2-3 years after he’s passed?! Geesh, how hard is it to treat the mother and brother of the man you “allegedly” loved with just a teeny bit of kindness and compassion that I’ve seen even perfect strangers have for each other?! OMG, for goodness’ sake!!!
@jasy2489
@jasy2489 2 года назад
She was just a girlfriend not his wife.. what right she has to keep his journal? Moreover she has her own family , kids.. give that journal to his mom
@Leanne-jm5gc
@Leanne-jm5gc 3 года назад
I can’t believe it’s been 20 years since 9 /11. To all those who lost their lives: R.I.P in Gods heaven. To the hyjackers : Burn In Hell
@Rickauris
@Rickauris 2 года назад
Why bring a girlfriend from 20 years ago...she has nothing related to him. It was a moment in time they were dating but that's it
@xanderarena
@xanderarena 2 года назад
George S., you're an absolute coward for towing the line. Support the Bobby McIlvaine Act.
@San-eh8do
@San-eh8do 2 года назад
Why reading diaries from death people? I don't want anyone to read my journals when I'm gone.
@ladyd212011
@ladyd212011 2 года назад
HAVE RESPECT FOR THE PEARL HARBOR OF OUR GENERATION!!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY DID TO THE WORLD THAT FAITFUL DAY. THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY IS APPROACHING AND WE HAVE AND WILL NEVER FORGET. THE LIVING GOD OF ABRAHAM WILL BRING HIS JUDGEMENT. REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!!!!
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