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1. Frege: "Thought, Sense, & Reference" 

Mark Thorsby
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@frankamundsen5621
@frankamundsen5621 4 года назад
Could you add time stamps? They would make this so much easier to enjoy properly
@kristenforster3662
@kristenforster3662 6 лет назад
I am looking forward to your new series on contemporary philosophy. Great introduction to Frege.
@adityanandeibam39
@adityanandeibam39 2 года назад
sir please keep uploading more videos. your videos help everyone from all over the world. im fom india and your videos helped me a lot in my undergraduate programme. pls upload more videos
@myahya__art
@myahya__art 2 года назад
u are amazing, doing my MA in philosophy and after listening this entire lecture my cursor went directly to the subscribe button, this is something which i want, explain each and everything so clearly with the ppt, thankyou so much sir.
@iljavanpeel6397
@iljavanpeel6397 4 года назад
A very useful video, you have the talent to be as clear as analytic philosophy itself. Thank you.
@comtedebuffon9690
@comtedebuffon9690 2 года назад
This video is literally amazing and very explanatory. Thank you so much.
@yhposolihp9960
@yhposolihp9960 4 года назад
58:30 Sense and Reference, That explanation made me understand this easily. Original text/ translated texts are so tricky at times, specially for un Ugrad like me... THANK YOU.
@nguyejo
@nguyejo 6 лет назад
excellent speaker.. very insightful and helpful intro to contemporary philosoph;y via analytical philosophy! thanks.
@adityanandeibam39
@adityanandeibam39 2 года назад
you are the best teacher of philosophy
@zainabyousef3388
@zainabyousef3388 3 года назад
Thanks alot for such excellent lecture. Could you plz make us a lecture about Davidson's philosophy of language as well as Quine's dogmas?
@damodevo
@damodevo 6 лет назад
Superb introdiction. Look forward to more in this series!
@cornutus11
@cornutus11 3 года назад
I believe that Frege was a proponent of logicism, not logicalism. At least, that is the word used by most logic books. But great video.
@a.leunghkg9919
@a.leunghkg9919 4 года назад
As an outsider of philosophy, I really enjoy these introductory lectures. Great work! Look forward to seeing more in the future!
@justus6233
@justus6233 4 года назад
Do you like Frege?
@abdulrahmann.9024
@abdulrahmann.9024 3 года назад
@@justus6233yes I can relate to him as a human he was pressured to hate Jews and put forward such statements but I'm sure he was aware of concepts like non generalised racial discrimination and would be sympathetic.
@justus6233
@justus6233 3 года назад
@@abdulrahmann.9024 ah okay
@sophialiebe5577
@sophialiebe5577 5 лет назад
You sir, are one amazing guy. Keep making videos please
@Noychooz
@Noychooz 2 года назад
Thank you so much! so helpful. You're really good at this and easy to listen. Soothing voice and bright thought pattern. Thank you. Its a bummer to hear he was Anti-semite, I'm from Israel :( but fuck that. keeping feelings outside the theory is hard.
@lt4376
@lt4376 Год назад
4:40 Logic and mathematics. Frege was almost right, and his critic tried to unify logic and mathematics too, but also came across new discrepancies that he too couldn’t account for. But it’s not logic that needs to united with math, but rationality. Rationality encompasses logos…. And can you guess the last two? -LT
@Zmaraikaka
@Zmaraikaka 4 года назад
U have explained it very beautifully, thanks!
@PrimitiveBaroque
@PrimitiveBaroque 3 года назад
Great video I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@ляпетитморт
@ляпетитморт 6 лет назад
Please, keep it going
@harunpezo1218
@harunpezo1218 6 лет назад
Thank you very much, sir!
@Therapythroughmusic
@Therapythroughmusic 6 лет назад
thanks. Been waiting for this so long.
@juju5000
@juju5000 4 года назад
Truth is an adjective.
@charlesstepp2083
@charlesstepp2083 Год назад
This video does what for the price of beans and rice?
@flourishforever
@flourishforever 4 года назад
Quick question: If we can never compare inner representations between different consciousnesses, then how did we ever discover that color blindness actually exists?
@AyalaChampagne
@AyalaChampagne 3 года назад
This is simple and it works through general consensus. If 10 people pick the green cube when asked to but one person can't distinguush between the red and the green one,.the test is over. Also, by now the genetic causes are pinned down to the nucleotides,.but that's another story. The real question is re the content of the consensus: even if we both agree on the name of every shade on the wheel,, how can you know that when we both agree on 'yellow'' I'm seeing what you're seeing?
@danieljliverslxxxix1164
@danieljliverslxxxix1164 3 года назад
Yes we can know as colours are just the reflections of light at different wavelengths that hit the eye. If we didn’t then we literally could not survive as we wouldn’t be able to distinguish certain foods from inedible foods. This is the kind of pseudo intellectualism that postmodernism infects us with.
@jimmylin1392
@jimmylin1392 2 года назад
is the end of this is basically Wittgenstein's idea that some things cannot be said but only shown?
@rossharmonics
@rossharmonics 3 года назад
a2 + b2 = c2 is not the Pythagorean Theorem but the modern translation of the theorem. How is the original theorem different?
@muhammetkurkcu4756
@muhammetkurkcu4756 3 года назад
You re a good teacher. If you can teach, you must have apprehended the thought well enough to tell in your own words. Funny how people say to people with pychological problems, "its all in your head" lol, while you are thinking things similar what frege wrote down.
@Sinthora97
@Sinthora97 4 года назад
It seems to me, that the reference of "it seems to me, that...." could be it's truth value. I could be lying about what seems to me to be the case.
@phil2d2
@phil2d2 3 года назад
I absolutely love your video classes. I would just ask, respectfully, that you please keep your political references moderate and generic. Not that you haven’t but I don’t want to feel insulted. That is, because there will be some of us that lean conservative it could be disheartening to hear sarcastic remarks about candidates whether on the left or the right. Please don’t separate half of your audience. I used to love to listen to David Bentley Heart until one day he, right out of the blue, made a real nasty remark about Trump. In addition to feeling discriminated against I also found that the comment was absolutely not true but part of a broad fashionable trend to trash him regardless of truth or fairness. Thank you for all your hard work and, again, I absolutely love and treasure your video!! You’re a great teacher.
@abinraj640
@abinraj640 2 года назад
Problem of meaning 15:06 3 parts of thinking 32:35
@francescopiazza4882
@francescopiazza4882 4 года назад
That's a lot to think...
@LoKar22
@LoKar22 6 лет назад
Hey Mark, are you not doing the Foucault video anymore? :(
@samiullahkhan2391
@samiullahkhan2391 3 года назад
Red text is hard to see in videos.
@binq
@binq 4 года назад
Which Girard are you referring to here?
@rossharmonics
@rossharmonics 3 года назад
Does anyone know the name of the thinker (his first name is Time) who recently posted a series of videos that now seem to be deleted?
@rossharmonics
@rossharmonics 3 года назад
I found out there was a misspelling on a youtube posting that was taken down. The first name was Tim.
@Andrew-rc3vh
@Andrew-rc3vh 3 года назад
You can't really blame the man for being foxed by Russell's Paradox. It's an intractable problem and has remained so to this day. Gödel extended the implications and shocked the world. Gödel went crazy and died as well. it seems to me Russell was the archetypal annoyingly bright student.
@jollycheong8003
@jollycheong8003 3 года назад
Anyone know what software Prof. Thorsby is using?
@luszczi
@luszczi 2 года назад
I think it might be prezi.
@TheKinix13
@TheKinix13 4 года назад
Thanks
@saimbhat6243
@saimbhat6243 2 года назад
Frege was anti-Semitic ? Quite a few german philosophers of that era germany were anti-semitic. And this is a big example of how idealistic systems such as plato's philosopher kings are not incorruptible at all.
@legendary3952
@legendary3952 2 года назад
Ok?
@channel_panel193
@channel_panel193 3 года назад
skip to 3:06
@shahidhayat3367
@shahidhayat3367 4 года назад
7:32 You scared me 😓😭😰😦
@mvts1
@mvts1 Год назад
Bom
@lancecoleman7440
@lancecoleman7440 3 года назад
LANCE DEREK COLEMAN
@quantumfineartsandfossils2152
@quantumfineartsandfossils2152 2 года назад
The laws of truth are the physics of perception & you cannot let your perceptions reduce others while placing you in a false binary like psychology Because this means that you think you have an explanation for why you are in a hierarchy where you are above other models of perception This is where you are more likely to deny your psychological effect on others mentally, emotionally and thus physically No one is your scapegoat but you will take your entitlement to do that thinking this describes the world No it does not You say: "What is a good argument" 19:19+ "what is law: logic :truth, physics; nature, aesthetics: beautiful, ethics : good What is law?: conformity non-essential, conformity essential: the laws of truth are not so "psychogical" (you have a typo) The laws of truth have nothing to do with conformity they have to do with intuition the intuition of the physics of perception is totally different than conformity & more about synchronicity this is how you can use a surveillance generated search engine in order to use a location to place all agents outside of false binaries like "what is a good argument"& instead ask "Does this physics of perception keep me alive?" Why? Does it keep you alive because you feel sadistic satisfaction at your delusions your "good arguments"? so that anyone naive enough to deep fake forgets that they are potentially alerting billions of observers that they are delusional requiring they lobotomize themselves? Or, does your physics of perception keep entanglement of agents at a distance until a record of behavioral analytics is entangled between observers for it to be safe enough to use intuition to share the physics of perception in order to not so much make a good argument but a convincing one according to the law of physics or immunity?
@stoyanfurdzhev
@stoyanfurdzhev Год назад
God saves us from Newton and Einstein!
@cherihausmann
@cherihausmann Год назад
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@findbridge1790
@findbridge1790 3 года назад
Frege was nothing as a philosopher (whatever he might have been as a logician/mathematician). The first of a type of able logicians posing as philosophers: Kripke, Quine, Richard Montague, David Lewis. Brilliant practitioners of "this young science" (Suzanne Langer's phrase), but hopeless fools in philosophy per se. Their work is twaddle. And that includes Wittgenstein (the puffed up engineer). Hopeless garbage.
@boutheinakorchani8437
@boutheinakorchani8437 3 года назад
can you elaborate why so?
@findbridge1790
@findbridge1790 3 года назад
@@boutheinakorchani8437 Frege's philosophy of language is based on an analogy: that a sentence is like an equation. And therefore he tries to understand language in terms of equivalence relations; ie, a word, or a sentence, has an equals sign after it, as it were. And it's a question of figuring out the rules to follow to see what the equals sign leads to. This is how a mathematician would naturally think. But a sentence is in NO WAY like an equation. Every element of an equation has an exact definition -- it IS its definition, and that's it; NO element of a sentence -- words -- is like that. Words -- eg. "water", "man", "house". might seem to have definitions, but they do not really in that sense. In fact, they really don't have definitions at all. We understand them by an entirely different mental process than the one involved in grasping equivalence relations -- how exactly we do is a very profound and difficult question. (Chomsky, for ex., has always said these things; but the philosophers have never listened.) This profound question can in no way be illuminated by persisting in trying to understand it by reference to the equivalence relations of math and the mental processes we use to grasp them. A new approach is needed. Frege set philosophy of language on a complete wrong track which, imo, has been a disaster. The other people I mentioned followed him on this wrong track, pursuing it often with great ingenuity, but their very most basic assumption (sentence is like equation) is simply wrong and a hopelessly skewed basis for a philosophical program. Never was so much brilliance exerted to so little effect -- all because of a wrong foundation.
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