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10/7 Mass Rape Claims DISMANTLED By Times Of London 

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@turbdonkey
@turbdonkey 3 месяца назад
Once it comes out of Hillary's mouth it loses all credibility.
@jugo1944
@jugo1944 3 месяца назад
Her sense of entitlement is unbelievable. She's indignant that anyone would disagree with her and protest her world order
@farrahirrgauss2599
@farrahirrgauss2599 3 месяца назад
What a shame that this old hag is still relevant
@aawe1
@aawe1 3 месяца назад
@@jugo1944 And she's the type still in power in Washington
@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179
@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179 3 месяца назад
​@@aawe1That's what lack of accountability gives you. If your job isn't on the line it's Ok if your performance is mediocre. A food court employee has more accountability than one of these Washington types: at least a food court employee should be capable of doing the job or get fired.
@DF-hl2ds
@DF-hl2ds 3 месяца назад
Bill's wang-doodle now has no credibility?
@Brightstar8270
@Brightstar8270 3 месяца назад
They lie and they lie and they lie. What kind of a victim needs to lie to make people believe they are the victim? The perpetrator of course.
@SWTmel
@SWTmel 3 месяца назад
Of course... The perps! Another whopper... The Mighty Mossad/Israel was "completely caught off guard and surprised by Hamas." Not likely!
@BlackhaloZ
@BlackhaloZ 3 месяца назад
Not only that, but they get super irate when called out on the lie. Sociopaths.
@samo9275
@samo9275 3 месяца назад
@@BlackhaloZ 100%. Infinitely more mad at the hit to their ego/image/aesthetics than they are concerned about material repercussions on the life/wellbeing/dignity of others.
@samo9275
@samo9275 3 месяца назад
@@BlackhaloZ Classic sociopathy & narcssm. 10/7 grape hoax is the epitome of this blatant disregard & contempt for the Other.
@Marss13z
@Marss13z 3 месяца назад
Which is why hamass is slated for termination. Sinwar said that the Gazans are sacrifices. He certainly believes it.
@aye3678
@aye3678 3 месяца назад
This society is pure evil.
@TheHamboy69
@TheHamboy69 3 месяца назад
Just so you know, the people interviewed have come out and saud the times misqouted them and left out 90% of the interviews, most of which contradicted the article.vit was an agenda article
@WeAreItt
@WeAreItt 3 месяца назад
@@TheHamboy69 Just so you know No evidence has been provided that proves anyone was raped
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 3 месяца назад
@@TheHamboy69 And you have a link to those people's statements...where, exactly?
@OnEaNdOnE783
@OnEaNdOnE783 3 месяца назад
@@TheHamboy69 Not only they said rape, and also said they are carrying babies?
@DIJAM1334
@DIJAM1334 3 месяца назад
Israel itself is the rape capital of the world.
@auntiesemite9295
@auntiesemite9295 3 месяца назад
Every accusation is a confession.
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 2 месяца назад
Israel did not kill 15,000 people on whenever that claim was made nor whatever number hamass publishes regularly for imbeciles who watch this channel and give it high praise for perpetuating lies.
@genYprogressive83
@genYprogressive83 3 месяца назад
Never ask a man about his salary, a woman about her weight or Israel for their evidence.
@elephantwildlife8567
@elephantwildlife8567 3 месяца назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zAr9oGSXgak.htmlsi=sz4mwoNhWynywHVh Watch Screams before the Silence documentary on women mutilated, raped and murdered on Oct7. Intl Criminal Court charge Hamas with rape as WarCrime! They have the evidence!!! We see rhe videos. I saw violence perpetrated to women on Oct 7th. I believe the kids and women that were there on Oct7. I believe the film and ICC. Oct 7 happened, warch the video
@harryv6752
@harryv6752 3 месяца назад
I don't make much. She weighs what she weighs. There is no evidence. Keep on rockin'! 🤘😄
@thebeatcreeper
@thebeatcreeper 3 месяца назад
@@harryv6752 that made me laugh
@TR-hj5mr
@TR-hj5mr 3 месяца назад
I agree with you Israel always tells the truth. They are a nation of honor good point.
@Theoneandonlyearthhuman
@Theoneandonlyearthhuman 3 месяца назад
@@TR-hj5mri did not know today was opposite day
@mookfarooq
@mookfarooq 3 месяца назад
40 babies... Where is the footage of the funeral? No funeral service or memorial for 40 babies?
@hanh9707
@hanh9707 3 месяца назад
Remember: HEADLESS, BAKED babies Total psychopaths to come up with a story like that It’s crazy how stupid the world was to believe such NONSENSE
@mauricehalfhide3982
@mauricehalfhide3982 3 месяца назад
good point
@rvarsigfusson6163
@rvarsigfusson6163 3 месяца назад
Really nice pointing out that..... Thanks
@jackdeegan3617
@jackdeegan3617 3 месяца назад
There were no 40 dead babies, there was one baby under one year old murdered. The official Israeli statements months after the 7th shows how many were killed and the age groups. They lied in the lead up to the 7th and they lied after the 7th, because they wanted the destruction of Gaza.
@srisubiyanti2211
@srisubiyanti2211 3 месяца назад
Bahkan pemakaman 1200 korban peristiwa 7 Oktober yang mereka klaim saja tidak pernah keluar di media,.dimana pemakaman masalnya ?
@dykha1921
@dykha1921 3 месяца назад
Every accusation is a confession
@kahane2007
@kahane2007 3 месяца назад
Sums up Islam better than anything else
@afterkwiss
@afterkwiss 3 месяца назад
@@kahane2007 Islam isn't facing the ICJ and the ICC for genocide and war crimes. Israel is. Now you can go boil an egg, or anything useful.
@ellisteinberg5800
@ellisteinberg5800 3 месяца назад
Your jihadis live streamed their horrors ,
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 2 месяца назад
Israel did not kill 15,000 people on whenever that claim was made nor whatever number hamass publishes regularly for imbeciles who watch this channel and give it high praise for perpetuating lies.
@gillianessien7417
@gillianessien7417 3 месяца назад
“Using fake feminism to justify a genocide”.
@SuperDflower
@SuperDflower 3 месяца назад
The cynicism it’s just stunning
@keireynaud3248
@keireynaud3248 3 месяца назад
This line was really key.
@TruthSpeaker-9393
@TruthSpeaker-9393 3 месяца назад
Uif tijusbfmj xbz
@debaucherousmrniceguy9913
@debaucherousmrniceguy9913 3 месяца назад
Lol. These the same me too fools who went after republicans. If Hamas was found to be fans of trump I’m sure Krystal would change her tune.
@MA-sk4fg
@MA-sk4fg 3 месяца назад
Killary is weaponizing feminism to make a case.
@babablacksheep8019
@babablacksheep8019 3 месяца назад
Not only is it disgusting as an element of propaganda, but it’s also offensive to the entire women’s movement. Weaponized false accusations should be condemned as harshly as the accusation itself.
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 3 месяца назад
Which includes the elitist #MeToo movement as well.
@JupiterMoon777
@JupiterMoon777 3 месяца назад
Israelies
@victoriagapuz4515
@victoriagapuz4515 3 месяца назад
the atrocities including raped, burning, beheading of babies were filmed by terrorists hamas/palestinians,Islamic Jihadists that you support. The 47-minute video was watched by international journalists..
@laurelbeach4529
@laurelbeach4529 3 месяца назад
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx the MeToo movement was actually started by black women, not members of the “elite.” Many women identified with it way before anyone “elite” had anything to do with it. Most stories that were shared did not include names or identifying features, as it was largely an anonymous movement showing how most women have experienced discrimination, harassment, or assault by men and it is largely ignored by society, which is why so many men reacted with disbelief. So which false accusations are you referring to, exactly?
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 3 месяца назад
@@laurelbeach4529 The problem with MeToo was that it relied on hearsay more than evidence. Few of the accusations were tested in court. The movement's very anonymity was its weakness: if you have solid evidence of criminality, let it be openly examined.
@HadalsameTV
@HadalsameTV 3 месяца назад
These constant lies show they're never victims but victimizers.
@ibnahmad2317
@ibnahmad2317 3 месяца назад
holehoaxers.
@AdamJohnson-h8q
@AdamJohnson-h8q 3 месяца назад
Exactly!
@RobertO-vu4xb
@RobertO-vu4xb 2 месяца назад
@@ibnahmad2317 Truman diary entry : ''The J..s, I find are very, very selfish,” Truman wrote on July 21. “They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the J..s get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog.
@Duebien
@Duebien 3 месяца назад
Why is Hillary still around? Go away!
@carolwatney9206
@carolwatney9206 3 месяца назад
Ask many times
@helenakolar
@helenakolar 3 месяца назад
Good question, money. She is too greedy, and she is probably bored at home.
@1forSave_Palestine
@1forSave_Palestine 3 месяца назад
Hillary correctly unelected president needs to look at her own home situation and husbands lies.
@afterkwiss
@afterkwiss 3 месяца назад
She's just a mouthpiece that can be rented.
@wafasaid1857
@wafasaid1857 3 месяца назад
She has been paid by the Zionists to present these lies and propagandas
@mohamedismail2485
@mohamedismail2485 3 месяца назад
They have NO SHAME!!! Disgusting!!
@SGxShadow
@SGxShadow 3 месяца назад
“Believe all women.” No thanks. I’ll believe evidence.
@leigh3160
@leigh3160 3 месяца назад
what evidence
@SGxShadow
@SGxShadow 3 месяца назад
@@leigh3160 exactly!
@Thesirissacbnutting
@Thesirissacbnutting 3 месяца назад
Says a very careful rapist.
@SuperDflower
@SuperDflower 3 месяца назад
What a sick world we’re living in. Weaponized as she called it fake feminism…. And where does that leave us. Women still are not listened to, and this atrocious behavior justified. It’s disgusting that they would use allegations of rape in this manner. But what would Emmett Till have to say?
@crlake
@crlake 3 месяца назад
Yet it was men who made the allegations, not women! But please continue in your hatred.
@MYTAccount
@MYTAccount 3 месяца назад
“The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew and the Israelis made me ashamed to be a Jew.” Dr Israel Shahak (a holocaust survivor)
@robertmorrison3874
@robertmorrison3874 3 месяца назад
It's sad because everything Israel said Hamas and Palestinians Did Israel had done that to Palestinians?💯
@auniquedisposition9009
@auniquedisposition9009 3 месяца назад
If they'll lie about things like these now, I wonder what else they've lied about in the past...
@ibnahmad2317
@ibnahmad2317 3 месяца назад
Holocaust
@yazeedsoeker9984
@yazeedsoeker9984 3 месяца назад
Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction
@ghadaalkaabi1066
@ghadaalkaabi1066 2 месяца назад
​@@yazeedsoeker9984 as an Iraqi thank you for not forgetting
@ilovereadingthehistoryofUSAinc
@ilovereadingthehistoryofUSAinc 2 месяца назад
I suggest you look up belfourd's declaration and the british mandate of palestine, you will find out israel is the one that invaded palestine in 1948
@carmelobazzano5703
@carmelobazzano5703 3 месяца назад
Accuse others for the crimes you commit.
@Marss13z
@Marss13z 3 месяца назад
Exactly what hamass and their shills do.
@carlabroderick5508
@carlabroderick5508 3 месяца назад
Give evidence of the crimes you are claiming.
@Lala.H.R
@Lala.H.R 3 месяца назад
​@@carlabroderick5508 french released hostage confirmed!!! No rape
@cristalp00
@cristalp00 3 месяца назад
Never heard about that the IDF raped ever Palestinian woman.
@friendship9904
@friendship9904 3 месяца назад
​@@carlabroderick5508Israel was behind all those stories I remember two ladies set free from Hamas Israel said they were rape but the ladies family said that not true they were not rape
@SG-gq2rf
@SG-gq2rf 3 месяца назад
The one person (Raz Cohen) who claimed to be an eye witness to mass rape also said that Hamas fighters chopped the breasts off women and juggled them and walked around with severed heads, and committed necrophilia. How someone can lie about things like that is beyond me.
@hanh9707
@hanh9707 3 месяца назад
They always have the most ri-damn-diculous stories too 😂 The one you shared officially overrides the baked, headless babies story as first place These people are the most depraved and psychotic by far
@chuletaization
@chuletaization 3 месяца назад
He was given a script.
@InbalGoldbe
@InbalGoldbe 3 месяца назад
@@chuletaization but are you given your medical prescription is the real issue at hand.. get help buddy
@JensPeterLiljegren
@JensPeterLiljegren 3 месяца назад
@@InbalGoldbe Always offended - Never ashamed.
@chuletaization
@chuletaization 3 месяца назад
@@InbalGoldbe "Medical subscription"? I'll get that when you get a newspaper prescription, lol.
@williamthomas1
@williamthomas1 3 месяца назад
Smithsonian Magazine wrote an article in 2012 and stated: "It’s important to understand that psychopathic behavior and affect exist on a continuum; there are those who fall into the grey area between “normal” people and true psychopaths".
@miss_rini
@miss_rini 3 месяца назад
Why hasn’t a single politician visited these Prisons????
@Faiez-rh1gm
@Faiez-rh1gm 3 месяца назад
They not interested as they want Isreal to carry out ethnic cleansing for the oil and gas in GaZa and West bank.
@moonWraith13
@moonWraith13 3 месяца назад
There’s no access. They aren’t prisons they’re concentration camps.
@daymay1066
@daymay1066 3 месяца назад
Unsurprising. Birds of a feather. Criminals backing up criminals. Highly corrupt criminals.
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 2 месяца назад
Israel did not kill 15,000 people on whenever that claim was made nor whatever number hamass publishes regularly for imbeciles who watch this channel and give it high praise for perpetuating lies.
@topdamagewizard
@topdamagewizard 3 месяца назад
"We don't see Israeli soldiers raping people do we?" - That aged like fooking milk.
@bigtuna45
@bigtuna45 3 месяца назад
That clip is so wild
@luisalejandro2335
@luisalejandro2335 3 месяца назад
Krystal cites the lack of evidence for those acts then goes ahead and gives the exact same evidence the Israeli women gave, their own statements. She cites two men claiming they were graped, and what evidence does she provide? Their words. So when Israeli women say they were graped, Krystal says that never happened. When two Palestinians claim they were graped, well that’s all the evidence you need.
@davidgreenwood6029
@davidgreenwood6029 3 месяца назад
@@luisalejandro2335 You would have a point, if it weren't for the fact that the official narrative is actually just repeating the same double standard you are, just the reverse. Thats the ironic thing, is i don't think anyone's saying Palestinians can be taken at their word and isralies can't, but the common narrative is that we take the Israelis at their word and not the Palestinians. So thanksk for agreeing that makes no sense. There is also a distinction, the accusations against hamas were that the rape was widespread and sanctioned from the top, which is actually a far easier claim to disprove. Sure, sexual violence has probably happened on both sides, but it seems near certain there was no widespread leadership sanctioned use of it by hamas.
@topdamagewizard
@topdamagewizard 3 месяца назад
@luisalejandro2335 so we don't believe the NY times and CNN? Since those are sources she states. Very well. Let's do that. That allows me to refute anything those outlets have to say about oct 7. See how this (doesn't) works?
@Goldenhawk583
@Goldenhawk583 3 месяца назад
@@luisalejandro2335 the palestinian women have IDF soldiers testemonies on their side though. Graping is used matter of factly in osraeli prosins, it is filmed and used to blackmail the women later when they are let go.
@leonardodakimchi
@leonardodakimchi 3 месяца назад
Basically they accuse others of what THEY are doing.
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 3 месяца назад
They're God's chosen people
@akhilleus12
@akhilleus12 3 месяца назад
Literally *every* time
@NahMan-Gaijin
@NahMan-Gaijin 3 месяца назад
What do u expect, that whole country is so unoriginal. The conditioning they go through doesn’t really foster creativity apparently.
@jugo1944
@jugo1944 3 месяца назад
Ashamed of nothing, offended by everything
@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179
@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179 3 месяца назад
With them any accusation is a confession.
@mariacrouch7109
@mariacrouch7109 3 месяца назад
ITS ABOUT TIME OUR MEDIA TOLD THE TRUTH !!!!!!
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 3 месяца назад
Saying Isreal is telling the truth is like calling the IDF the most moral military.
@elephantwildlife8567
@elephantwildlife8567 3 месяца назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zAr9oGSXgak.htmlsi=_GZLFElN2PqrWY_I Warch Screams before the Silence! IntlbCriminal Court charge Hamas for Rape as they have the evidence that is siscussed in this film
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 3 месяца назад
So, accurate.
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 3 месяца назад
​@@dannyarcher6370 show nose
@TheRedBaron1917
@TheRedBaron1917 3 месяца назад
​@dannyarcher6370 you are Jewish
@McVoidDragon
@McVoidDragon 3 месяца назад
"that sounds antisemitic to me". - if that was said on some cnn discussion
@Bliss587
@Bliss587 3 месяца назад
The Grayzone and Electric Intifada largely broke this story with their impressive investigative skills.
@mogts
@mogts 3 месяца назад
+ Electronic Intifada
@Sankrityayan07
@Sankrityayan07 3 месяца назад
Impressive imaginative skills
@rai2423
@rai2423 3 месяца назад
Actually it was electronic intifada. But because of the name of the publication and the views of the people running it, Grayzone got all the credit.
@khubza8999
@khubza8999 3 месяца назад
It was Ali Abu Nimah and the journalists on Electronic Intifada, but Greyzone added the Hebrew press.
@geometerfpv2804
@geometerfpv2804 3 месяца назад
​​@@rai2423 Well, they should learn something from that. Marketing and optics matters for ALL of us in EVERY field, you can't just ignore it and then cry foul. Gotta get good at it...or be missed. Having an incendiary name is not a good start.
@fgv1001
@fgv1001 3 месяца назад
ZERO evidence of ANY rape.
@ajak4262
@ajak4262 2 месяца назад
Except for video streamed by the Hamas terrorists. Oh and the Israeli survivors who witnessed first hand. They recorded it, and were witnessed by survivors, just like the Nazis recorded death camps, and witnessed by survivors. Still have deniers!
@claravide5259
@claravide5259 2 месяца назад
Tenha juízo....
@nnhk0056
@nnhk0056 3 месяца назад
Guys, what are you doing? When they say the word "rape" you're supposed to stop thinking
@samo9275
@samo9275 3 месяца назад
“thought-terminating cliche” - classic strategy
@L0kias1
@L0kias1 3 месяца назад
So you deny ?
@adrien5834
@adrien5834 3 месяца назад
@@L0kias1 Deny what? Do you have specific accusations to make?
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 3 месяца назад
​@@L0kias1a lie? Did you have evidences?
@afterkwiss
@afterkwiss 3 месяца назад
@@L0kias1 Deny a lie?
@saalihbakr6132
@saalihbakr6132 3 месяца назад
Why is Hillary Clinton still talking?!
@chuletaization
@chuletaization 3 месяца назад
Exactly, she is unbearable.
@nafmee
@nafmee 3 месяца назад
She is an AIPAC member, so ...
@rvarsigfusson6163
@rvarsigfusson6163 3 месяца назад
I did say when trump won over her.... rather he then she...... some times you have to choose between plague or cholera and that was it..... but I do despite both of them.
@abdulazizalkhouri
@abdulazizalkhouri 3 месяца назад
AIPAC!
@simbad9614
@simbad9614 3 месяца назад
She is looking for lsrael attention n lobbying her for presidency😂
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai 3 месяца назад
Why aren’t people calling out the Israeli govt for denying many of the Israeli’s that were killed on that day died due to “friendly” fire as the Hannibal directive was enforced. The damage caused to homes in the kibbutz was caused by their own tanks and not Hamas fighters who were only carrying machine guns and many at the festival were killed by helicopter fire as they were killing everyone in sight and trying to stop any from being taken as hostages. It will all eventually come out, but it will be too little too late for all the innocent civilians in Gaza and Bibi will probably have fled to the US by then seeking sanctuary and immunity from any prosecution and he’ll probably get it as the US has been complicit in much of it.
@annelliot622
@annelliot622 3 месяца назад
This is such an important point. The Grayzone have tried to highlight it from the beginning, but, you're right, it doesn't seem like the independent media have taken it seriously enough. This figure, 1200 dead Israelis, not even differentiating between military personnel and civilians, but more importantly, not proving just how many were actually killed by the Israeli military itself.
@CitizenMiche
@CitizenMiche 2 месяца назад
@@1972dsrai My post was actually for both you & @annellio622. Beautifully written, thanks!!
@JarheadMcLovin
@JarheadMcLovin 3 месяца назад
Hilary sounds more and more like trump with each passing day, seems like they even share the same clothes.
@MasrurMia-e6q
@MasrurMia-e6q 3 месяца назад
Killary was is and will always lied
@lrock48
@lrock48 3 месяца назад
They used to be friends (Bill and Hilary used to hang with Trump and the upper echelon of NYC), probably still are and just putting on a facade. To paraphrase George Carlin, you don't need a formal conspiracy when interest aligns.
@alholm6470
@alholm6470 3 месяца назад
Anyone remember the "babies thrown from incubators" lie from the first Iraq war?
@ibobeko4309
@ibobeko4309 2 месяца назад
They lied not once but twice, before the invasion of Iraq, they said Iraq has Weapons of Mass destruction, first they said saddam has uran than uran tubes than they said he has poison gas. Those lies did cost the US taxpayer trillions.
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 2 месяца назад
Israel did not kill 15,000 people on whenever that claim was made nor whatever number hamass publishes regularly for imbeciles who watch this channel and give it high praise for perpetuating lies.
@rfsalad4118
@rfsalad4118 3 месяца назад
Why do most Israelis have European names like Cooper, Goldstein, Mileikowsky, these are definitely not Middle Eastern names..these sounds more like the names of Colonisers.
@tinosmo1
@tinosmo1 3 месяца назад
This is what Bree Gray was fired for
@aawe1
@aawe1 3 месяца назад
Yes, the Israel issue was nearly the only thing she was ever right about. Go figure
@cboone15
@cboone15 3 месяца назад
and Katie Halper. And ghouls like Dana Bash get to keep spewing their lies on CNN with no pushback.
@shawneek1972
@shawneek1972 3 месяца назад
​@@aawe1 Brie never came without receipts... she's brilliant.
@ceeIoc
@ceeIoc 3 месяца назад
Nah she was fired for being an insensitive human being.
@spicymemes7458
@spicymemes7458 3 месяца назад
​@@ceeIochad nothing to do with assault, tool
@KhoiSanRaps
@KhoiSanRaps 3 месяца назад
Ive seen the picture of a beheaded baby...in Rafa
@kahane2007
@kahane2007 3 месяца назад
Post it with proof that it was an ARAB child in RAFA
@KhoiSanRaps
@KhoiSanRaps 3 месяца назад
@@kahane2007 Ahmad Al-Najjar. 18 month old. You must've been living under a rock. it's a well known fact. And no one is disputing it.
@KhoiSanRaps
@KhoiSanRaps 3 месяца назад
@@kahane2007 he's literally everywhere
@AgentJo-i1u
@AgentJo-i1u 3 месяца назад
It was beheaded by the detonation of a missile. I remember this video. It s still not the same as hamas soldiers putting that baby in a hoven with rheirbown hands.
@KhoiSanRaps
@KhoiSanRaps 3 месяца назад
@@AgentJo-i1u 1. Rafa is a refugee camp where there is limited power, Internet and video material, yet this single incident of a beheaded baby was recorded. 2.. oct7 happened in a areas where there was 1000× more internet, video material and surveillance cameras, and we are yet to see a single image or name of a, R'pd victim, beheaded baby or a baby in the oven. 3think about that for a moment
@justoguillermomontoya3821
@justoguillermomontoya3821 3 месяца назад
Brianna joy gray has been completely vindicated
@realolivertwisted
@realolivertwisted 3 месяца назад
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.” -George Orwell
@alextabet9247
@alextabet9247 3 месяца назад
How else do you get legions of young men to hate the enemy enough to commit murder? By Israelis do not need to resort to such measures. Their children are indoctrinated since primary school to look at Palestinians as sub-human animals, whose lives are expendable.
@Russian_Waifu
@Russian_Waifu 3 месяца назад
Alot of people are not going to like their narrative getting debunked.
@litedawg
@litedawg 3 месяца назад
a lot of people dont like the fact that taking hostages is bad
@Russian_Waifu
@Russian_Waifu 3 месяца назад
​@@litedawg then why is Israel taking Palestinians as hostages?
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 3 месяца назад
​@@litedawg then why does Isreal do that?
@Nameless2k6
@Nameless2k6 3 месяца назад
Word! 3000+ Palestinian hostages and 250+ Israeli hostages. Such tragedies. Those 4 hostages tht were rescued looked well fed, tho
@morganghetti
@morganghetti 3 месяца назад
They won't care. They will believe it anyway.
@adnankassem8114
@adnankassem8114 3 месяца назад
Thank you Breaking Points for reporting on these things. Its a breath of fresh air to see sensible rhetoric in a storm of lies.
@Antifa_Gini
@Antifa_Gini 3 месяца назад
It's always about projection when it comes to fascist
@leigh3160
@leigh3160 3 месяца назад
antifa are the biggest facists
@DP_88.
@DP_88. 3 месяца назад
Good thing you aren’t on the hill anymore, they’d fire you for speaking this kind of truth.
@Warbum492
@Warbum492 3 месяца назад
"the truth" lol
@setaside2
@setaside2 3 месяца назад
​@@Warbum492 I didn't hear any falsehoods in this session.
@JasonKing-m6m
@JasonKing-m6m 3 месяца назад
Just keep in mind, EVERYTHING they accuse Hamas of doing, they ARE DOING (and have done) THEMSELVES right now...
@KingCharles-o6z
@KingCharles-o6z 3 месяца назад
GodDAYUM. THE HILL IS FUCKING DEAD!
@vikingmahud
@vikingmahud 3 месяца назад
UN Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict Pramila Patten visited ISR and issued a report. Despite the fact that she finds the information from ISR convincing and believable, the report states this: “Overall, the mission team was unable to establish whether sexual violence occurred." “No discernible pattern of targeted injuries to intimate body parts could be identified." “The mission team was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence." According to the UN report, despite reviewing "5000 photos, 50 hours of video, and many audio recordings," they were unable to establish whether the sexual violence occurred on October 7.
@johnwashington9292
@johnwashington9292 3 месяца назад
The shock of battle destroys sexual desire in combatants, along with even the desire to eat and focus on anything not connected to survival. Rapes do occur in war, but never in the heat of battle, especially of such high intensity as on Oct 7. For instance, in WWII, thousands of German women were raped in the Russian capture of Berlin but not by the attacking troops; the following troop waves after the battle were the offenders. When Hamas fighters beached the border, I am sure that every one of them thought that it was the last day of their lives and the only women that they were thinking of were their mothers.
@bellak3116
@bellak3116 3 месяца назад
Yesss exactly.
@susanmiller7560
@susanmiller7560 3 месяца назад
Many rapes did occur. You can't theorize your way out of this, and besides, they had 6 hours (remember) to run around before the battle began.
@johnwashington9292
@johnwashington9292 3 месяца назад
@@susanmiller7560 I am not only theorizing; I am speaking from the personal experience of an infantryman from the Vietnam War who survived many firefights. Even the expectation of battle will shut down functions of the body and mind automatically that are not needed for survival, and sexual function is one of them. I have been on patrols without enemy contact, but I was in that mode. Ask any psychologist about this. When the Hamas fighters penetrated that border, I am sure every one of their imaginations expected it was the last day of their lives, for they understood the IDF. This was not a John Wayne movie. They were in that battle mode of a hyper-state of awareness of dangers and, from my experience, could not sexually function or even entertain any sexual fantasy. The IDF claims they killed thousands of Hamas fighters that day to verify this was not a picnic. When my paratroop buddies and I first heard that rape charge, we almost died laughing. And we still are.
@Prospero-z1s
@Prospero-z1s 3 месяца назад
​​@@susanmiller7560There is no evidence of any occurring because they did not. Israel are believed by nobody.
@meggraham7564
@meggraham7564 3 месяца назад
​​@@susanmiller7560 did you not hear what was said "there is absolutely no evidence of rape".
@mohammadshahin9139
@mohammadshahin9139 3 месяца назад
Thanks for acknowledging the EI and Greyzone!!
@Bavafa1
@Bavafa1 3 месяца назад
Let them bring their evidence and present it, then also let Palestinians bring their evidence and present their rape and sexual allegations and then we will see. We just saw one female hostage along with 3 other rescued. Lets look at their before and after their time in captivity and then lets look at pictures of before and after of Palestinian hostages.
@Marss13z
@Marss13z 3 месяца назад
The Israelis have the Palestinian evidence. The go-pros carried by the raiders. They documented their crimes. hamass is guilty as sin and is being given the chance to face Allah and explain why they murdered women and children.
@thechosenone2786
@thechosenone2786 3 месяца назад
The Palestinian hostages look like Holocaust victims when released as opposed to the Israeli hostages whom look well fed and happy when they are released. The proof is in the pudding so to speak.
@facehugger3
@facehugger3 3 месяца назад
OK. First exhibit is the 4 unalived hostages found in a tunnel that was beneath a childs room in gaza. I think we can all agree they were in worse health when they were found than they were when kidnapped and taken hostage .
@AgentJo-i1u
@AgentJo-i1u 3 месяца назад
Palestinians were not hostages but prisoners. SOME palestinians Kids are held in administrative detention because the charges are too vague and throwing a rock on a tank is illegal, but not a serious charge if nithing is broken.
@Bavafa1
@Bavafa1 3 месяца назад
@@AgentJo-i1u You say tomato, I say tomaato there are thousands of Palestinians held captive without charges, there are 100+ Israelis held captive without charges by Palestinians.
@V12F1Demon
@V12F1Demon 3 месяца назад
No, Sagar. We don't really want to hear what you have to say about what we've known all along.
@XtremeAdrenalinRush
@XtremeAdrenalinRush 3 месяца назад
“Screams before silence” by Sherryl Sandberg. She tried screaming before being silenced because she was like the boy who cried wolf.
@jazziejim
@jazziejim 3 месяца назад
Go get them Kristal!
@elephantwildlife8567
@elephantwildlife8567 3 месяца назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zAr9oGSXgak.htmlsi=TJEFJQvgqU9jj87r Watch Screams before the Silence documentary on women mutilated, raped and murdered on Oct7. Intl Criminal Court charges Hamas with Rape as WarCrime. They have the evidence! Why wont ppl believe women and kids that were there?????? Not ok to approve of Oct 7
@Sinner-fi4bw
@Sinner-fi4bw 3 месяца назад
Imagine lying about these things its sick in the mind.
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 3 месяца назад
I’m glad someone is seeing this. It really is sick that the people who claim to care about these deceased souls would lie about them. It’s like they do not believe in any kind of divine justice at all.
@talmudovsky
@talmudovsky 3 месяца назад
​@@jujutrini8412What if you are wrong? Will there be divine justice for you?
@NikkMikk
@NikkMikk 3 месяца назад
@@talmudovsky trying to justify killing of so many kids, expect a divine justice for sure
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 месяца назад
Normal Israeli behavior
@QusaiAl-Ramadhani
@QusaiAl-Ramadhani 3 месяца назад
@@talmudovsky your name checks out
@freedom4mealways
@freedom4mealways 3 месяца назад
Hamas has stated that if any of their "soldiers" commit rape, that soldier would be subject to severe corporal punishment.
@johnwadmaniii
@johnwadmaniii 3 месяца назад
Are you serious? Read what you just wrote. Do you believe that?
@freedom4mealways
@freedom4mealways 3 месяца назад
@@johnwadmaniii I read that from a Hamas statement!
@ahmvedakeel
@ahmvedakeel 3 месяца назад
@@johnwadmaniiiif u believe israeli demons why shouldn’t i believe muslim men? That also never killed unjustifiably
@Vorname_Nachnahme
@Vorname_Nachnahme 3 месяца назад
​@@freedom4mealways Source?
@freedom4mealways
@freedom4mealways 3 месяца назад
@@Vorname_Nachnahme Hamas has made an official statement citing just that. However read this excerpt from Wikipedia. "Hamas was accused of gender-based violence, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. Hamas has denied the allegations of abuse."
@LabGoats
@LabGoats 3 месяца назад
I already knew most of these facts about torture in Israel, but hearing someone say it out loud is even more shocking. It's insane
@fellsmoke
@fellsmoke 3 месяца назад
Sociopaths are ascending.
@wkwk9367
@wkwk9367 3 месяца назад
Thank You Krystal for your bravery! Please keep exposing the lies purported by these evil doers.
@kitbram2033
@kitbram2033 3 месяца назад
OMG Clinton didn’t say “poking its head up”…she did.
@carolwatney9206
@carolwatney9206 3 месяца назад
She's a attention seeker
@loreleimorphee5162
@loreleimorphee5162 3 месяца назад
Know that behind every smooth talker hides a magnificent liar
@clayriggsbee6108
@clayriggsbee6108 3 месяца назад
ANd yet Netanyahu is going to address congress probably on national TV, our politicians have turned their backs on the truth. This is EXACLY why I do not support Israel
@josht4583
@josht4583 3 месяца назад
Does no one know about the School of the America's, operated by the U.S. Army? It was the SoA that provided published and in-class instruction on how to utilize mass-rape to terrorize civilian populations in Latin America. Can we talk about this at all?
@rafes8206
@rafes8206 3 месяца назад
Max and Aaron broke this months ago
@MasrurMia-e6q
@MasrurMia-e6q 3 месяца назад
Yeah the grey zone is best in investigating journalism
@paulbo9033
@paulbo9033 3 месяца назад
You mean to tell me Israel lies?! *Shocked Pikachu face
@litedawg
@litedawg 3 месяца назад
Source - Hamas
@StevefromPR
@StevefromPR 3 месяца назад
@litedawg Not too bright are we? The source is literally news outlets.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 3 месяца назад
Really needs it's own emoji at this point
@shueyk2320
@shueyk2320 3 месяца назад
​@@litedawg Lmao OK zogbot
@aryandefenseleague8243
@aryandefenseleague8243 3 месяца назад
@@litedawghi Herschel
@ranamohammad3614
@ranamohammad3614 3 месяца назад
I never believed those rape claims for a second.
@theshogunstein6475
@theshogunstein6475 3 месяца назад
The ability of one person to say the same thing since October is amazing
@LauraKamienski
@LauraKamienski 3 месяца назад
The gray zone, mondoweis and the electronic intifada debunked the sexual assault myth about October 7th
@carolwatney9206
@carolwatney9206 3 месяца назад
This well known woman all over the world should be ashame of themselves cant believe thy stoop so low Krystal from SOUTH AFRICA we proud of you
@bryanzee3714
@bryanzee3714 3 месяца назад
I don't want to admit it but Krystal is Right
@mdog111
@mdog111 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this excellent piece.
@abdellahiaioun8430
@abdellahiaioun8430 3 месяца назад
There is nothing new, they are known to lie between breaths.
@courtneyn.m.1687
@courtneyn.m.1687 3 месяца назад
What bothers me the most is that claiming these atrocities occurred work to normalize the use of extreme/sexual violence. We’ve already been exposed to the idea, told that this is happening. It’s warping our view of combat/what’s expected in war
@elephantwildlife8567
@elephantwildlife8567 3 месяца назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zAr9oGSXgak.htmlsi=Feg3fr_zTIeUaYmu Watch Screqms before the Silence documentary on women mutilated, raped and murdered on October7. Intl Ciminal Court charge Hamas with Rape as WarCrime. They have the evidence Why wont ppl believe these kids & women that were there?????????
@azzv.kuskatan
@azzv.kuskatan 3 месяца назад
That's the problem of not thinking about the rules of war, the War Laws as important, many things are ignored because we don't enforce those rules.
@searchingfortruth619
@searchingfortruth619 3 месяца назад
Do you have that much faith in humanity that it's really impossible that such things happened? I love the optimism, but the 'by golly that can't really be true' attitude ends up in very dark places.
@inforuimteschip5970
@inforuimteschip5970 3 месяца назад
She is not saying it doesn't happen. Just that lying about it makes it more likely te happen. And what we have seen lately, a Palestinians Docter having been sodomiesed to death in an Israeli prison camp, might by related to Palestinians having been dehumanised as rapist and babykillers etc.
@courtneyn.m.1687
@courtneyn.m.1687 3 месяца назад
@@inforuimteschip5970 this.
@carlomariaromano4320
@carlomariaromano4320 3 месяца назад
UN Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict Pramila Patten visited ISR and issued a report. Despite the fact that she finds the information from ISR convincing and believable, the report states this: “Overall, the mission team was unable to establish whether sexual violence occurred." “No discernible pattern of targeted injuries to intimate body parts could be identified." “The mission team was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence." According to the UN report, despite reviewing "5000 photos, 50 hours of video, and many audio recordings," they were unable to establish whether the sexual violence occurred on October 7.
@amalianurlatifah8703
@amalianurlatifah8703 3 месяца назад
The UN representative cannot conclude that there was rape or other sexual crimes because there is no significant evidence at all from all this information 😑😑😑 do you think that with the support of Western governments and mainstream media towards Israel, the UN special representative can easily divert the report to be "more pro Palestine" ??? 🤦🏾‍♀️ make it make sense dude!!! you can't even keep some meager job when you talk critically about israel.
@EnnAye
@EnnAye 3 месяца назад
With Issy every accusation is a confession.
@blurtam188
@blurtam188 3 месяца назад
But uncle joey said he saw some of the photographs!! What the hell was he watching?? LOL
@adaephonprime855
@adaephonprime855 3 месяца назад
He mixed it up with the porn he was watching
@alvatrous
@alvatrous 3 месяца назад
Thats a terrifying thought…
@africaart
@africaart 3 месяца назад
😂 you are asking the wrong question. What type of edible are they selling to Uncle Joey
@PeterLamin-pi6rv
@PeterLamin-pi6rv 3 месяца назад
Hunter's laptop 😂😂😂
@dapv144
@dapv144 3 месяца назад
Hilary trying to sound like Obama is funny as hell to me. She has changed her pattern of speech to mimic his over the course of time, and it is effective at creating emphasis and steering the focus of the listener to key points, but as with everything Hillary related, it loses credibility when she delivers.
@khalidabdosh6512
@khalidabdosh6512 3 месяца назад
Their own released captive testified that they were treated well despite getting hate mail and abuse by telling the truth.
@roshands8
@roshands8 3 месяца назад
LOL yeah, we have seen the footage treating them well. my ass
@Alaayza2
@Alaayza2 3 месяца назад
​@@roshands8better than your israhell
@thesoultouchers
@thesoultouchers 3 месяца назад
The truth always comes out
@nilssab
@nilssab 3 месяца назад
about the oct 7 pregnant woman getting the fetus cut out, didn't this acctually happen? but several months ago in the west bank by settlers?
@pwood6532
@pwood6532 3 месяца назад
I believe this was a crime perpetrated on a lebanese woman in a camp whilst the idf stood guard.i am not sure of the details but it was during pne of the lebanon wars.you would think this would gain more examination.For the israelis to lie abiut these atrocities is a special level of psychopathy.they are so manipulative.
@shamim621
@shamim621 3 месяца назад
​@@pwood6532yes it was the sabra-shatilla
@pwood6532
@pwood6532 3 месяца назад
@@shamim621 i can3bt even wrap my head around atrocities like this .blows my mind."most moral army"...good lord.
@susanmiller7560
@susanmiller7560 3 месяца назад
@@pwood6532 They were in control of the area, but were not present at the camps when the massacre took place.
@kneau
@kneau 3 месяца назад
@@susanmiller7560 liability still falls to them.
@MarkusJArbab
@MarkusJArbab 3 месяца назад
Biden should never use the phrase “ beyond comprehension “
@foodlover2236
@foodlover2236 3 месяца назад
Or let me be clear. His brain is absolutely polluted. He can never be clear
@babagalacticus
@babagalacticus 3 месяца назад
why not? MANY things are "beyond [his] comprehension".
@MarkusJArbab
@MarkusJArbab 3 месяца назад
@@babagalacticus that’s my point. It’s not good when you always look lost. You can’t sound lost too. Oops nvm.
@MarkUSA1
@MarkUSA1 3 месяца назад
RESPECT TO BP FOR THIS! GOD BLESS YOUR TRUE JOURNALISM GUYS...
@meme4one
@meme4one 3 месяца назад
Shani louk was murdered on 7th Oct. 1000+ victims apparently, but this ladys image, because she was beautiful, was pushed everywhere. Absolutely every opportunity, her face was out there. That's absolutely PR to hit home harder. Not to report facts but to grab attention. This is marketing.
@searchingfortruth619
@searchingfortruth619 3 месяца назад
Disgusting, every Israeli was repulsed by how that photo was shared everywhere.
@khasMSF
@khasMSF 3 месяца назад
Hannibal directive?
@EricKoonitsky-bd3hl
@EricKoonitsky-bd3hl 3 месяца назад
Really? "every Israeli" was repulsed? Who do you imagine shared it everywhere? You mean to say "every True Scotsman, er, Israeli".
@danigelis
@danigelis 3 месяца назад
If, at this point in time, people actually don't believe a large percentage of American Jews have singular loyalty to Israel, there is no hope for you.
@junk_rig_sailor1698
@junk_rig_sailor1698 3 месяца назад
I despise Dana Bash more than I despise any Fox News host - and there are some shockers on Fox.
@shabirleylan8201
@shabirleylan8201 3 месяца назад
The trait of a LIAR is simple. S/he accuses others of horrific events retelling as a visual experience like looking in a mirror of the things they have done
@LosRikos
@LosRikos 3 месяца назад
Will you guys report on Intel suspending building a chip plant in Israel worth 25 billion
@HippiePirates
@HippiePirates 3 месяца назад
Propaganda for war? No way!
@Mohammed-dy6xb
@Mohammed-dy6xb 3 месяца назад
EVERY ACCUSATION IS A CONFESSION. !! I S R A E L
@laserbrain7774
@laserbrain7774 3 месяца назад
A projection even.
@kevinjenner9502
@kevinjenner9502 3 месяца назад
The best government money can buy…AIPAC
@josephshields2922
@josephshields2922 3 месяца назад
If the bags get any bigger under HRC's eyes she won't be able to pick her head up.
@zt2639
@zt2639 3 месяца назад
Who would have thought that the concept of "Believe All Women" could be abused? It was always nonsense, this is just the end game.
@BigStar1972
@BigStar1972 3 месяца назад
I suspect Bri rolled her eyes at the transparent weaponization of a woke trope to try to push the maximal Israeli victimhood narrative and justify a horrorshow. Not scoffing at actual Israeli suffering. For Israel, a terrorist act cant just be that, it has to be an existential threat to Jews in all times and places by a hoarde of unhinged antisemites..
@spamfilter32
@spamfilter32 3 месяца назад
The thing is, it is not even women who made these allegations. It was men.
@mandyharewood886
@mandyharewood886 3 месяца назад
I am on the Left but I found it infuriating. What should have been said is "Do not dismiss women!" But that wasn't catchy enough. All allegations should be taken seriously and investigated. Believing without evidence is not the way to go.
@crlake
@crlake 3 месяца назад
1 out of 3 women being SA-ed isn’t nonsense, but go off.
@hanh9707
@hanh9707 3 месяца назад
@@crlakesounds like a real problem in the west. You guys should figure it out.
@gattuso222
@gattuso222 3 месяца назад
Kind of interesting that both parties are behind this cause, the only thing they agree on. Imagine just how much money and influence that takes.
@KenKen-g5m
@KenKen-g5m 3 месяца назад
Professionally honest and straightforward well done report👍
@Winfield88
@Winfield88 3 месяца назад
Nick Fuentes will be on the Monday Show : FOR YOU !!!!
@secretasianman7622
@secretasianman7622 3 месяца назад
We get it Krystal, you loved 10/7
@portraitsbydouglas9861
@portraitsbydouglas9861 3 месяца назад
You lack argument skills
@Tymeb0mb
@Tymeb0mb 3 месяца назад
The Harkonnens will do or say anything to take Arrakis back from the Fremen. They believe it is their birthright.
@Hhajsjeieirhrbbr
@Hhajsjeieirhrbbr 3 месяца назад
They tried to use this same tactic in Afghanistan about fighting for the freedom of women. Like the American government give a shit about them
@mattheendpod2659
@mattheendpod2659 3 месяца назад
Loved this channel before her coverage of this. Used to be a dignified forum for discussion, it’s an over emotive, sometimes hysteric, L vs R now. So disappointing. Unfollowed.
@jillsherman277
@jillsherman277 3 месяца назад
🎯
@ikerierk
@ikerierk 3 месяца назад
Js lying about atrocities supposedly committed against them? Tell me something new.
@Nickname-bd8xd
@Nickname-bd8xd 3 месяца назад
It has been new to me. Shocking victim narrative must be maintained
@naymatunc-rc6vs
@naymatunc-rc6vs 3 месяца назад
every admition is a confession
@anthonytwohill9726
@anthonytwohill9726 3 месяца назад
The olds haven't figured out that the youth have the Internet and use it for information gathering.
@anthonytwohill9726
@anthonytwohill9726 3 месяца назад
@@dbptwg Idk, but how much worse can things really get?
@carycunningham9510
@carycunningham9510 3 месяца назад
@@anthonytwohill9726 NEVER underestimate worse.
@obiwankenobi661
@obiwankenobi661 3 месяца назад
yeah. thats why in europe they just voted right wing. dimwit.
@anthonytwohill9726
@anthonytwohill9726 3 месяца назад
@@carycunningham9510 Good point comrade. Imperial decline often takes time. Any real chance of a meteor strike or a super volcano?
@carycunningham9510
@carycunningham9510 3 месяца назад
@@anthonytwohill9726 Nope, not really. 😂. Finally gave up on Money GPS; I could only take so many months of him completely ignoring market concentration and it's effect on price competition and profits. He's forever all the Fed, all the time. I'm sure Wall Street thanks him for his service.
@DaniMaulana-g3y
@DaniMaulana-g3y 3 месяца назад
Tell her how she can so quickly forget the shooting of 3 hostages by waving the white flag and aid worker.?
@ElaineGoldhammer-r5p
@ElaineGoldhammer-r5p 3 месяца назад
My daughter was there. These horrible things happened. Shame on you for not believing.
@user-me9wx8qr2y
@user-me9wx8qr2y 3 месяца назад
It is a shame you have to read such appalling lies.
@carolwatney9206
@carolwatney9206 3 месяца назад
People want evidence
@stephanieroth16
@stephanieroth16 3 месяца назад
Shame on you for worshipping the Golden Calf called Israel.
@susanmiller7560
@susanmiller7560 3 месяца назад
@@carolwatney9206 There is a lot of evidence.
@kneau
@kneau 3 месяца назад
Your daughter does not exist.
@reese-qd9cj
@reese-qd9cj 3 месяца назад
Krystal always bungles it up. I think she does it on purpose. From the actual report: 1. Were there cases of SA on October 7? YES 2. Was it widespread? YES 3. Were orders in Hamas from the top down? NO EVIDENCE 4. Was SA used by Hamas as a weapon of war? NO EVIDENCE Having no evidence of SA used a a weapon of war is not the same as no evidence of SA. Any journalist knows the difference. Also, just because some Hamas militants SA'd some of the October 7th victims, does not mean Gazans should be collectively blamed. That goes without saying.
@kneau
@kneau 3 месяца назад
Are you referring to the report facilitated by a newbie with severe bias?
@nous100
@nous100 3 месяца назад
Krystal what's wrong with you
@MaryamAtheerah
@MaryamAtheerah 3 месяца назад
You angry that their hasbara is being shown …
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