10 Annoying Things in RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 

“You must be this tall to ride on Marcel’s Giant Woody”

I'm not paying that much for Marcel's Giant Woody.

You missed one annoying thing. I sometimes build a great steel roller coaster and then have to decide on a price. So the game suggests €2 for it. So when the line fills up, I up the price a bit higher, but I don't want the guests to be shocked, so I up it to €3, which quite something. I happily see all the green money signs jump up and consider myself a great business man. Then I get greedy and make it double the original price and up it to €4, but then I hear parent noises about how greed will always end up biting you in the ass. So I leave it at that and make a boat of money. Then some guy on youtube makes a video and tells me I could have been charging €9.70 all that time. Do you know how many umbrellas you can buy for that?!?!?!?!

The worst “its a trap” i had was when I accidentally put a no-entry sign the wrong way on a big coaster with a long exit path, so even the “highlight path issues” couldn’t show me the problem.

"Just looking at Marcel's Giant Woody makes me feel sick"

My list when I played as a kid (So RCT1): - Trying to destroy path but guests keep walking on it is one - Flowerbeds are always dead - Realizing all my handymen have been mowing the lawn for months - Bobsled crashes - Accidentally raising the ground/water too much, wasting a small fortune - Trying to right-click tiny scenery objects but destroying path instead - Trying to get a hold on Diamond Heights - Spending months of in-game time building a coaster, only for it to suck - Testing a log flume. It's. Just. So. Slow.

I find it annoying that nauseous guests don't always have the sense to use a first-aid room I conveniently put right next to the exit of the higher nausea rating coaster, or even just _sit down!_

most annoying thing is in the rct 1 (thankfully fixed on rct 2) handyman's default priority on mow grass

Annoying things: 1. When a Mechanic is sent to fix a broken ride, he takes his jolly good time getting to the ride in need. 2. Guests who just came into the park are in a foul mood, and some leave right after they came to your park. 3. Guests can't find rides in your park even if they are prominent. 4. Guests crowd a section of path and not branching out in other parts of the park.

Mine will always be building a great building and wanting to admire it from a different angle only to find out the isometric view's been playing tricks on me again and I've placed the roof somewhere else entirely, needing me to start all over again. Learning the CTRL shortcut (embarrassingly late, admittedly, took me years) has helped a lot but it still trips me up sometimes.

Marcel on his twitch stream literally yesterday: "complaining doesn't get you anywhere and you should be grateful for what you have" Marcel on his youtube video today : "here's 6 and a half minutes of complaints about one of my favorite things in the world" LOL, but seriously love your videos. New rct content always gives me a bit of joy

Marcel's Giant Woody is too scary for me!

Surprised the “station brakes failure” wasn’t on the list!

#11 - Drowning guests reduces your park rating, even though the RCT gods require you drown a guest every year

Here's a few more: - Setting a zone for a staff member to patrol, but since zones are 4x4 grids they creep into queue lines where most staff members have no business. Guess where they will be spending 90% of their patrol time. Bonus points if you somehow manage to get a staff member onto a tile of path he can't leave because of his patrol zone. - Guests who want to leave the park, but who can't find the exit, so they wander up and down the same remote path forever, tanking the park rating (this was fixed in OpenRCT2 I believe). - Being tricked by the camera perspective to place decorations on the wrong tile, making a seemingly-nice structure that looks completely ridiculous when you rotate the camera. - Certain coaster types missing common track elements, such as the large steep-to-flat and flat-to-steep pieces for wooden coasters.

2:21 I was doing a new "no cheats" scenario play-through and I kept getting this same result at Amity Airfield. Always 2950-2999 guests by the deadline. My save file was 3 months out and I must have reloaded it a dozen times and I never broke 3000.

The fact that mechanics sometimes get stuck and will never fix your ride is annoying, but, even worse, is that they don't pass on the task.

#6 I like how the guy right next to the path pulls out his map, just to then wander in the other direction. Classic.

"It's a trap" hit me so bad one time, it was an exit path out over a lake and due to several nearby rides i built after the path without noticing it didn't connect, there was physically no way to connect the path. So I had about 500 guests on a path and only options were to drown them and destroy what remained of my park rating, or pick every single one up and place them on the ground. Took ages to place each and every one back down....

I, too, can’t afford Marcel’s Giant Woody, random guest.

Handymen just continuously deciding to be wandering off elsewhere away from high-vomit areas is a particular pet peeve. Even when you give them small areas to patrol, they always seem to just hang out away from where you need them.

It would be cool if you can get dummies in the rollercoaster to test with minimum and maximum weight.

Roller Coaster Tycoon 1: Having to manually remove “mow the lawn” tasks from your handymen. (Although I usually dedicated 1 or 2 to ONLY the lawn just because I like the way it looks : )

#11 for me would be handymen walking back and forth in a queue line while the path right outside it is completely covered in vomit. I have had this happen far too many times especially when you set zones for handymen. The AI can be so buggy at times.

Your park has received an award for being "The park with the most confusing layout" Despite it being a Single wide grid pattern on a 255x255 map (this one irks me)

I was so excited to learn that the heartline coaster has sprites for turn, You can make much more interesting and reasonable layouts with that coaster when you can hack in turns!

I find the more annoying thing about no-upstop rides is less that they go flying and more that their speed has to be perfectly micromanaged. They can go flying but they can also grind to a halt out of nowhere for the same exact reason.

the aging rides mechanism is the most annoying thing on this game ever! You make a beautfull big great hi stats expensive cutting edge roller coaster and soon it will atract pretty much noone because it has over 2 years. to make things worse, you need to demolish the entire thing and and build it all over again instead of just giving it a new collor as they do in real life. this game mechanism should have been removed in rct classic.

Marcel asked it before, I repeated the question before, and I'll repeat it again: What exactly did the Heartline do to Chris Sawyer for him to punish it with the worst stats in the game for a rollercoaster?

Hahah, you nailed this one! I think I’ve experienced all of these at some point… my personal most disappointing one is the rollercoaster coming out with 14 intensity. I get how to make coaster now, but as a kid I just wanted to make the craziest stuff I could and people hated it almost every time, hahah. Didn’t stop me though!

On #4 - I remember years ago in the RCT subreddit, Valdair failed a scenario by ONE. SINGLE. GUEST. That post sticks in my memory and makes me nervous every time.

OK but there is something even more annoying in rct1: Handymen were mowing grass on default 🤯

The Vomit Slip n’ Slide is what taught me to use handyman patrol grids.

1:44 Oooh I hate when that happens. Luckily I always make sure to connect a path from the exit to the main path! Thx for the reminder!!

11.- In order to make a pretty park you decide to some pathways two tiles or even three tiles wide for the same of symmetry or aesthetics, only to find out that guests are getting lost in these wider pathways all the time.

3:20 "The problem is if you delete the path, they'll get lost in the grass..." -->Ignores the ~dozen guests now helplessly drowning almost entirely out of view behind the queue line.

"I can't afford Marcel's Giant Woody." See also: "Marcel's Giant Woody looks too intense for me." "I want to get off Marcel's Giant Woody." "I'm not hungry." "I feel sick."

I noticed throughout the years also that can be annoying is how the fairground organ style on the Merry Go Around always seems to overlap any other music nearby, I sometimes have to end up having to turn that music off for that reason.

Regarding #4: So close... I don't know if it's considered a cheat, but I turn on the Open RCT2 feature to allow "scenario goals to be finished early", because to me, if the goal is to get 3000 guests in two years, and I can do it in one, then it doesn't matter if something hypothetically goes wrong and I don't have the 3000 guests at the end of year two: I already beat the goal, and I did it ahead of schedule, which is arguably harder to do than completing it normally.

I encountered the trap guests one the other day. I had no idea why my park rating was at zero considering I had the entire paths clean and kept building rides. Then I realised I deleted a section of path and guests were trapped at the ride exit 700 guests left my park at once and it crashed the game

3:14 there is an easy fix for this though: Just place a one way sign on it and wait a few minutes. Wont help with staff sadly.

The vomit problem is easy enough to deal with. I simply assign patrol areas for all staff. One of the most annoying things for me is when you build duelling coasters, but for some reason 90% of guests queue for only one of them, while the other sends out half-empty trains.

It’s situations like #2 where I pull out the Security Guard temporarily. I have them patrol the area to prevent anymore damage while the Handymen clean everything up. It takes a while for all that puke to be swept up after all. If the guard save any combination of path accessories that are worth $60 or more in total, then that guard earned themselves in. It’s probably not likely they’ll reach that total, but they’ll at least prevent any further damage to the park rating. Of course, a good set of Handymen patrolling near puke machines can help prevent this, but it’s good to have a backup plan that prevents you from ending up having to load your game to months ago.

#11 The message that you should raise the entrance fee. but then guests spawning don't even have enough money to enter the park. #12 You made an amazing spagetti ball coaster, but there is just no way you can connect it back to the station.

Also I actually know what the Heartline coaster doesn’t have good excitement. It’s Becuase it doesn’t have lateral G’s which isn’t meant to have any in the first place.

Regarding "it's a trap": If the guests are trapped on a small path, how is the information of their displeasure able to translate into the park rating? They can't leave to find someone to complain to, they're trapped. RCT2 was also released before cell phones were super-prevalent, so it would seem unlikely that they were calling or texting park management or whatever authority issues the rating. I guess these guests must have some form of telepathy. Too bad they seem unable to teleport themselves out of unfavorable situations.

I think the worst is the park value. Because it can take years to overcome and it's very annoying.

2:15 if its getting close, I just put a one way sign to prevent people from leaving and hope that there is a enough time to attract more guests before the rating gets effected.

Marcel's Giant Woody looks too intense for me!

What about every guest getting lost on the same 2-3 tiles, on 2 tile wide paths, at the exact same time, for no aparant reason.

You could really hear the PTSD in his voice when he was talking about the guests getting lost when deleting paths.

When guests get stuck/lost/generally miffed because of transport rides. Especially if you try to get fancy with said rides and/or don’t know that transit rides to get to separated parts of a park is a baaaaad idea

For me it's definitely when the trains on a small coaster like the wild mouse or water slide gets jammed up somewhere, and it's usually due to a safety cut out, which is unavoidable

"I'm not walking 20 feet to my left to get back on that plainly visible path!"

One that happens more when the parks get bigger: a guest is lost because they haven't reached the ride they wanted yet... because they're TIRED and need a break, so the extra time to get there counts it as "lost".

The "I'm not paying that much for.." is probably top shelf for me. Can't explain how annoying it is having to check your rides/lines for such a thing. And maybe the group that manages OpenRCT2 should give the heartline a small bump toward its excitement stat.

On the subject of point 1. Some years ago you made a video where you showed the link between guest's weight and the clothes they wear. If a guest buys a shirt in a stall, does the guest's weight change too? If so, you could pick the color to either decrease or increase the likelihood of a crash as in 1.

I can see a series of 10 videos (or just another one like this) coming on methods you can use to address these issues (although I know you've touched on some of them already, but it would be nice to see how to address them too, in your usual educational style).

This is peak RCT content ❤️ great video dude!

Marcel knew people like me would be more annoyed by the Comic Sans font than anything else in the video. Well played sir.

You've put a lot of creativity in the wordplay for this one, really fun! (as a fellow Dutchie it's extra cool to see your growth in speaking and writing English)

2:49 LOL - Guests thinking about Marcel's Giant woody - I'm not paying that much to go on Marcel's Giant Woody

Paths over water - trying to update them without drowning guests, deleting some scenery and accidentally deleting a path, the fact that guests can walk out on the blinking path segment you haven’t built yet then fall through and drown.

11) Dinghy slides having their boats stuck after every single breakdown. If one dinghy gets stuck on the bottom of a lift hill and the next one bumps into it, that's it, that dinghy will never make it onto the lift hill and is stuck forever and you have to double close and re-open the ride. So far, luckily, all I ever got was a "boat XY of Whatevericameupwith has not returned to the station", I guess technically there could be crashes caused by this as well.

it never seizes to amaze me just how much detail there actually is in this game

The most annoying thing in the game for me by far are guests who don't go on rides before they leave because they have a short attention span. This is extremely bad in Pay for Ride scenarios because you can't make profit off of them whatsoever. At least in Pay for Park scenarios you get the guaranteed income from park entry.

I wish OpenRCT2 would add a notification which would periodically appear if a ride has a completely empty queue line.

Here's one more annoying thing for you: falling just short of a ride's minimum length requirement, especially on a ride that needs to fit in a specific area.

I HATE scenarios where you have to charge per ride. I enjoy playing with money turned on, but I have no interest in babysitting all of my ride prices as they age.

#11 having a ride break down, and the mechanic that gets called is at the other end of the freaking universe.

Accurate as hell. Lol, also to avoid the vomit thing, I use markers on every handymen and I overlap them constantly. It helps. Also I turn off the “ mow the lawn” part and they focus on pathways more

My #1 would be coaster crashes. Either because of brake failures which aren't preventable even if you inspect rides every 10 minutes, or because you get something like "restraints stuck closed" when a train has just entered the station and suddenly stops instead of driving through to the front of the station to make room for other trains, causing the next train to crash into it.

"Sympathy for the Heartline" would make for a good Rolling Stones parody song.

Due to the isometric view, I once only _thought_ I placed an exit directly onto existing path.. a while later I found I was actually dropping guests off a cliff. Whoops!

1. ...Or NEVER use that type of ride. 2. That's what patrol zones (The blue footsteps icon in the corner of the handyman windows) are for. Use them. 3. Keep all paths connected and this shouldn't be a problem. 4. Save often, and (unless marketing is forbidden in that scenario), use the marketing options often and early (i.e. not waiting til the last minute) too. 5. Don't be greedy. Price the rides at the Excitement rate truncated (NOT rounded) to the dime, and not a penny more. 6. Only way to cope is to either delete each path square slowly, or get the pincers out. 7. Only way is to slow it down, and, if banking turns are available, use them. 8. Another reason to research ONLY stalls/shops at maximum rate (NEVER use a lower rate, period) until both the info kiosk and ATM are available. BOTH are critical components. 9. This goes hand in hand with the necessity of an ATM, and shops and stores. And the Info Kiosk! Max out the price of umbrellas if rain is in the scenario!!!! At an obscenely high price, no one will buy them until it rains anyway, so no lost sales there. If you must, charge a dime (and no more) for bathrooms, and only if you are desperate for money. 10. I saw your review of the Heartline Twister Coaster, so I agree with you. Don't use this one, ever.

The overall path finding IQ of guests is frustrating, especially as that demotivates to play a real life park scenario, because of their boulevard tier of pathing. Or a park, in RCT1 with similar issues, like Evergreen Gardens with their extensive paths.

A Heartline Coaster stole Chris Sawyer's wife, that's why he hates it so much and the stats are so bad.

In a similar vein to Get Off my Lawn!, I once started a park where I had a big main entrance plaza with stalls and such, but even though they were all in a large square in direct line of sight to the exit, my park rating plummeted because nobody could find the exit even with information kiosks. I'll never quite understand how that happened.

*Bobsleds Fly Off Tracks and Explode Marcel - "I suppose that is a good motivator for your guests to stay in shape" Hilarious 😂

It is as if the handymen see a mess in the next tile of pathway and then head back the way they came, which is clean. They need too much supervision.

If it's a nauseous ride, those first aid stations are more significant than it seems.

Has to be the never ending “I’m not going on Marcel’s Giant Woody, it isn’t safe” following the dreaded station brakes failure for me

"Guest 345 is lost and can't find the park exit." *clicks on guest monitor* Bullshit! You're heading right towards it!

I swear the "guests ignore ride intensity" cheat is the best thing ever put into the game

"I want to go on something more intense than Marcel's Giant Woody!"

„Station break failure“ follwed by an explosion and silence

I felt a visceral reaction to "I'm not paying that much" and reignited a pain long forgotten in the depths of my soul

Barfy paths are bad, but not nearly as bad as they were back in "Theme Park" where guests walking past vomit had a chance to vomit themselves and so a small path with a few vomit puddles on it could cause a huge vomit title wave to rip through the entire park. At least, that's how I remembered it.

The only time I’ve enjoyed building the heart line coaster was to build it as a transport ride that went underground and stretched to the other side of a mega park.

I hope RCT2 never vanishes from this earth. I love it.

I like how you can't help but get a little bit angry with the "get off my lawn" bit.

My top 2 annoying things are actually changes made from RCT1 to RCT2. Different cars are no longer upgrades, rather their own seperate rides. And the junior coaster no longer has steep slopes.

I could feel Marcel's anger in 6. You've dealt that far too many times, haven't you?

There should be a challenge or an award for "Most Vomit in the Park"

Guests walk only in one way -> Here is too crowded -> Lots of guests leave park, park value drops

Marcel's Giant Woody is worth the price

1:45 - I love how unbothered the black t-shirt guy is at being trapped.

Oh boy... that #4 hurt me and brought back bad memories, because yea... I did fail scenarios in that way before. That moment the goal screen pops up, you see that you've failed and your look wanders to the lower left corner, where you see you are missing TWO guests... so heartbreaking, really.

I had #3 happen to me live on stream yesterday, it was not good time but I got a good laugh out of it! 😅 Great video.

2:33 - Marcel's Giant Woody 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣