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We have enough data now for me to take a deep dive on a few Duskmourn cards that I was wrong about in the set review.
Grading Guide:
A - Bombs that are always your first pick, they completely warp the game in your favor, and they easily pull you into their color(s). You always first pick these. These are cards you are ecstatic to have in your deck. Most sets have 15-20 of these. Tend to mostly be Mythics or Rares, though sometimes an Uncommon gets there.
(Beza, the Bounding Spring, Maha, Its Feathers Night, Dragonhawk, Fate’s Tempest)
B - Premium removal spells and highly efficient creatures, often worth first picking. Still strong enough to pull you into their colors, but not quite as game or draft warping as A’s are. These are cards you feel good about having in your deck, and you would play several copies of most of them. Mostly Uncommons and higher, but there are usually 10-15 commons that get there too.
(Savor, Intrepid Rabbit, Thought-Stalker Warlock)
C - Filler. These are cards you neither feel good or bad about having in your deck. You play them if you’re in their colors, but they don’t tempt you to go into their color at all. Usually includes reasonably efficient creatures, good combat tricks, and removal spells. These appear at all rarities, but are most frequently Common. (Banishing Light, Ravine Raider, Rust-Shield Rampager)
D - Playable in an emergency. These are cards that you don’t feel so good about playing, but in a pinch, sometimes you just have to play them. These are often inefficient vanilla creatures or overly narrow cards. These appear at all rarities. (Mouse Trapper, Finch Formation, Three Tree Mascot)
F - Unplayable. These are cards that you should never play. There are very few of these in modern Limited formats, but they do appear at all rarities, with the most usually appearing at Rare and Common. These are cards whose effects are pretty much useless or overly narrow. (Festival of Embers, Gossip’s Talent, Dawn’s Truce)
There are two categories of cards that I give two grades to: Build Arounds and Sideboard Cards.
Build Around: These are cards that need special synergy to be at their best - synergy that won’t just come naturally. For these cards, I give one grade indicating how I think the card will perform in a typical deck of that color, and another grade if you manage to get there on synergy. (Cache Grab, Bonecache Overseer, Star Charter)
Sideboard Cards: These are generally cards that are Ds or Fs in your mainboard, but can perform much better out of the sideboard - at least as a C or higher. We see less of these today than we used to, since so many cards are modal.
(Wear Down, Wildfire Howl)
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@eduardobarros3986 3 дня назад

The thing about GW Survivors is that it is VERY dependent on the initial coin-flip. If you are on the play, you can stabilish an early aggression, snowball advantage, and eliminate the few blockers your opponent scrounges up for the win. If you are on the draw, and the opponent builds any sort of resistance, you'll struggle to do anything, since Survivors do nothing if they are not attacking, and have little to no evasion.

@JB-ym3vj 2 дня назад

There are also not enough ways to tap your own creatures without attacking with them

@marcoottina654 2 дня назад

@@JB-ym3vj no Springleaf Drum (or the creature and land version we have seen in the last years), no Paradise mantle, no Convoke, nothing. Which is sad

@derekcline950 2 дня назад

@marcoottina654 there are some. A vehicle at rare, bat can tap your own creature, the Orphans of the Wheat creature that taps for +1/+1, the Fear of Exposure with pseudo convoke... also don't sleep on combat tricks to get that first tap going. The stronger survivor cards will snowball quickly and/or replace themselves with a single turn tapped.

@AllisterH 2 дня назад

Honestly it is the stat distribution that is the problem. I think a cards like Acrobatic Cheerleader would be better as either a 1/3 or even a 0/4. Sure,, this lessens their threat level but it means that the cheerleader herself is likely to survive combat without help. Right now, I don't think there is a single survival creature that can face down even a slightly undercosted creature of the same mana (e.g a 3/3 sszurvivor critter for 3 mana dies to even an undercosted 3/2 for 3 and in this limited format, how many critters see play) There is also simply not enough ways to trigger it without combat which I might is a disadvantage as a tapped creature is no longer available for defense Do you really want to use that children of the corn card in the mid to late game to tap your defenders allowing for a big potential swing/payoff for your opponent and you don't get enough value

@samuelrussell5760 День назад

@@AllisterH Acrobatic Cheerleader as a 0/4 would be awful. The whole point of that card is that if you can attack with it once and it survives, you now have an undercosted 2/2 flyer. A 0/4 flyer is not a threat since it can't do damage anyways. Maybe I don't need to do extra work to get it to survive combat, but I need to do extra work before I care that it survived combat. Maybe this idea would work for survivors that have triggers that do something not related to making that specific creature better.

@altromonte15 3 дня назад

Well canonically the survivors don't survive for long, so this set is lore-accurate i wish they had better stats or at least better ways to tap them out of combat

@waywardsonofthenight228 2 дня назад

No way dude. Survivors are crazy good when you have 1 combat trick in hand. As soon as you do, your opponent faces an agonizing decision. Let you get the survival for free, or lose a creature to the combat trick AND STILL let you get the survival trigger.

@derekcline950 2 дня назад

@waywardsonofthenight228 Yeah, I honestly think GW isn't that bad, people are just drafting it like a grind it out deck. Build GW aggro, grab combat tricks and then get added value from the better survivors. Survivors seem like they are grindy. But honestly GW are aggro colors. Combat tricks are great in aggro and decent this set. Once you have good combat tricks, add in some of the better survivors

@samuelrussell5760 3 дня назад

Survivor kind of feels like training. You have below rate creatures that can get good if you can attack with them and they survive, but they are below rate so they don't usually survive combat naturally. And then if you jump through hoops to get them to survive combat, the payoff really isn't that good.

@Redpoppy80 3 дня назад

I am never going to get another chance to do this because I suck at MTG. But I CALLED IT that Unable to Scream was going to be good.

@TofuofLight 3 дня назад

Same, nizzahon sometimes rate these “darksteel mutation “ cards as bad but this literally has no downside

@floppyslot 3 дня назад

Sometimes your experience can betray you.

@MrDamojak 3 дня назад

Even a broken cock cums twice a day

@joedominguez8064 2 дня назад

It’s been such a frustrating card to play against, when they downgrade your five drop into a chump blocker for one mana and trigger eerie it is so brutal

@brentwalker9576 2 дня назад

@@TofuofLight The only downside is that it can still chumpblock, but like he says in this video that’s mostly a non factor unless running into an opponent that has +1/+1 counters or the combat tricks that buff power, which a surprising amount of the tricks in this set don’t event do. But the thing that really brings it up is the upsides. Enchantment enters matters set, but also strong recursion where you can bring a surprising amount of unrestricted permanents, not just “land to hand” or “creature to hand”. In one draft where I was in a core green deck that splashed WUB, I returned Unable to Scream to hand from graveyard with Under the Skin to use again as removal over another card like Sporogenic Infection because turning off not just the immediate passive effect but the death trigger that brings it back as a non-creature on a glimmer was more important. Like, I knew it was better than Nizza ranked it, but I honestly think that even with this “mea culpa” it still is. In this set Sealed and Draft, I think Unable to Scream should be treated as premium removal.

@johngleeman8347 3 дня назад

The sneaky good auras and equipment always bite Nizza in the backside. XD

@faerie7dragon 2 дня назад

Having a creature in play is becoming less and less of a requirement nowadays.

@faerie7dragon 2 дня назад

The festive spirit is felt in this Room. All those Bird tokens tell me it has been fully unlocked.

@therealdonaldtrumpjr 3 дня назад

Sheltered by Ghosts is one of the best cards in standard.

@WRanger87 3 дня назад

It’s insane. Both halves of its effects should cost two mana each.

@irou95 День назад

I put that card in my canlander deck

@troythewizard9940 2 дня назад

"There are a LOT of Blue cards on this list" and "Let's take a break from Blue for now" ... the list is primarily white 😅

@pauljimerson8218 3 дня назад

Not to rub it in but one of my favorite videos of yours love the integrity

@nicholasmann4480 2 дня назад

Ya i always appreciate the 'i got new information, i changed my mind' mentality

@cax1175 3 дня назад

17:50 It's pretty depressing black struggles in DUSKMOURN limited.

@ender_lord1202 3 дня назад

I can't recall any graveyard focused set since Theros Beyond Death that had black as a good color. Even when I was getting so many black cards in draft it felt like I couldn't win with a majority black deck in Lost Caverns of Ixalan.

@dickdeoreo 2 дня назад

RIGHT!?!?!?! Wtf was up with LCI. I just drafted it AGAIN when it was up for quick draft and the bots weren’t really taking the black cards, BUT I STILL couldn’t trophy with all the black I wanted. I stopped Fkin around and just started drafting red and the trophies started rolling in

@YourAdHere4 2 дня назад

i feel like they always play it too safe with black when it’s a gy focused set. When the set only has 1 or 2 gy themes (like BLB or OTJ), though, black is pretty solid

@michaelmaniloff9297 3 дня назад

It seems they needed to play test survival a lot more. Shrewd storyteller should be 3 mana for a 3/4 or 2 mana for 2/3. Baseball bat equip cost should be at most 2. Major swing at miss.

@dickdeoreo 2 дня назад

Pun intended? Lol

@chasdufour2771 День назад

Thx Nizzahone for all your analysis helping newer players like me learning the game

@RibusPQR 2 дня назад

Baseball Bat and Glimmerlight are so similar, and yet one's a colorless common and the other's a dual-color (signpost) uncommon. Really looks like a misstep on wotc's part, especially with how they turned out.

@zelos33333 3 дня назад

I’ve only had time to do two full drafts so far, but had the pleasure of drafting the rares/mythics covered in this video. And yeah, Dissection Tools and Dollmaker’s Shop are disgusting.

@cax1175 3 дня назад

I've enjoyed watching your draft uploads.

@samuelrussell5760 2 дня назад

I have been thinking about the way some archetypes have geometric (multiplicative) synergy while other archetypes only have arithmetic (additive) synergy. Survival creatures work together in the same deck mostly because they need the same type of enablers and are in the same colors. They don’t directly make each other better and the triggers don’t multiply. Eerie, on the other hand, is geometric. If I have one car with eerie and play a card that triggers it, I get one trigger. If I have two of each, I get 4 triggers. Three of each and I get 9 triggers. This progression leads to a situation where even relatively weak eerie triggers become impactful in a deck with critical mass of the synergy cards. In general, geometric synergy archetypes will have a much higher ceiling.

@RibusPQR 2 дня назад

Thank you for not calling it exponential

@joeryan5587 21 час назад

This is really insightful, thank you.

@DiscardatRandom День назад

The deathtouch is huge on dissection tools with how many big tramplers there are in this set

@TimmyDaTurtle День назад

One of my favorite combos is basically create a semi infinite with Fear of Isolation, Bottomless Pool, and hullbreaker horror or Fear of sleep paralysis since each time either card enters, it bounces the other back, the triggered abilities activate to create an efficient board wipe

@justinbrett1227 3 дня назад

The un-commons and commons in this feel so stacked, it's pretty nice.

@serradelahorne8289 3 дня назад

I never noticed the *sledgehammer* in Dissection Tools; I have some concerns about the Duskmourn health care system, and I say that as an American.

@michaelcollins4534 3 дня назад

I mean they don't specify what kind of creature we're dissecting exactly. Might need all that depending

@sallomon2357 2 дня назад

To me it looks like its Razorkin dissecting a survivor, so the sledgehammer is either the weapon of that survivor or the Razorkin's weapon that the Razorkin put away to do a dissection with the tools. Could also be a cultist dissecting a survivor, but then the second scenario doesn't really fit. All that mainly because the hammer seems to be in the background, away from the more surgical stuff.

@chasdufour2771 День назад

lol

@StrawMan1235 3 дня назад

I had a 7 win selesyna deck. The mvps of that deck were 3x glimmerlights and the 3 mana rare vehicle rather than any of the survival stuff.

@Redpoppy80 3 дня назад

@@StrawMan1235 I have seen some real good Survival decks in Standard. Unfortunately for limited the survival cards worth caring about are mostly rares.

@iandrey3674 3 дня назад

Got 7-0 on the back of reluctant role model, good survival triggers, guide that gives indestructible and ghosts that give +2/+4 It was very aggro

@fulltime4545 3 дня назад

That vehicle taps your survival creatures for free, which makes it super super good.

@DiscardatRandom День назад

@@fulltime4545yeah if we had those crazy good rares at lower rarity maybe the archetype would be good

@youraverageddnerd1843 2 дня назад

I splashed white in my Dimir deck at my prerelease for duskmourn almost exclusively for Ethereal Armor

@Gunnarr123abc День назад

Survivor only seems to work WITH combat trick heavy deck, like frantic strength enchantment to help snowball the aggression. They have to block anyway to prevent the survival, so having tricks always ready really helps. Lifegain is sadly a must though, or else you fall behind when going 2nd so if dont get any... youll probably lose race

@awildsylveon9896 2 дня назад

I think it's a lot easier to make tokens in this format, especially the 1/1 glimmer enchantment tokens, so that makes all the eerie cards and sac outlets better

@jackiespaceman 2 дня назад

Survival is good if you’re manifesting dread a lot. Opponents won’t block face down creatures usually.

@NizzahonMagic 2 дня назад

That's true, but it's frequently not worth turning manifest creatures face up and/or you don't have time. So that's not exactly a great way to do it.

@theunease5541 2 дня назад

I have been loving this set. Cool flavor, so much more fun to draft than bloomburrow, already have drafted more times than I drafted bloomburrow total. I did not see how strong RW was gonna be. I expected G to be onenof the strongest colors and is pretty strong. W is one of the strongest colors. So seems funny that GW isn't great. I've only seen it a few times and I haven't had too much trouble against it. Like someone else said, seems heavily dependent on if you are on the play. Also, called it on the monkey, 😅. Thanks for all the insight into the fornat it helps a lot and for sure has helped me have a good time, better time than bloomburrow.

@anthonywood9068 День назад

Ok but unable to scream ability to not be able to turn a card face up im sure was meant to cover manifest dread. In addition to that you can use it on a commander after using a card that turns cards face down and it cripples them to keep the commander on the field but unable to play or kill it

@pendend9859 2 дня назад

Thank you for your honesty

@der_ast3275 День назад

I am surprised by baseballbat. Because I won my pre release with a gw splash r Deck with Kona, Rip and the bat. The ability to tap down blockers repeatedly to cheat creatures into play or drawing an absurd amount of cards was to much for my opponents.

@NizzahonMagic День назад

Yeah, I mean, I have had it do good stuff, too. But over the course of 100k+ drafts, doesn't keep doing it.

@slintirreg 2 дня назад

Unable to scream is also way better because this set has a number of uncommons and rares you NEED to deal with so removal is generally better in this set

@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 3 дня назад

Nizahon, how about this trick, the 6th Doctor, "a 6th of Niko-ven" he copies a legendary spell as non-legendary, so with Niko this means a shard duplicable non-legendary Niko! i'm building this combo (helga, frog druid as commander)=she helps cast both

@jonbyrne86 2 дня назад

Any reason why we don't do Crack a pack anymore? Love the videos besides.

@ben_clifford День назад

The fact that Final Vengeance is good surprised me, but it shouldn't have. Removal has been very good (on both sides of the table), partly because this set is shaping up as a solid prince format.

@The1nvisibleJeevas День назад

What is a prince format?

@ben_clifford День назад

@@The1nvisibleJeevas In a prince format, the rares matter a lot. In a pauper format, you can build a good deck with all commons and uncommons. I think those terms were invented by Limited Resources.

@ben_clifford День назад

@@The1nvisibleJeevasHave you noticed that the rare threats in this format will completely demolish you if you don't have removal? That feeling is valid.

@noejaun2540 2 дня назад

Survivor's not surviving well is very on flavour.

@alexanderzeymo8742 День назад

Here's a point. Since historically you use the Game In Hand Win Rate as the primary measure of a card's strength, how much do you think that may misrepresent BW reanimator cards. I mean you hope that your reanimation targets get milled by manifest dread more than being in your hand waiting to be discarded or hardcast.

@gjfwang День назад

Feels like you just overestimated Survivor and underestimated Eerie and Delirium in this set.

@NizzahonMagic День назад

Generally, I think I was right about Eerie and Delirium. I thought both would be great. They are. But yeah, did overrate Survivor.

@ErikvandeKamp 3 дня назад

Self reflection is a beautiful thing

@dickdeoreo 2 дня назад

I keep trying to tell my wife the same but that bitch won’t listen

@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 3 дня назад

percutionist got my op a chainsaw... green-red deck

@debreczeniarpad9956 3 дня назад

My white dec got a lt of nice cards from this set =)

@zackpumpkinhead8882 3 дня назад

So I'm bad at limited. But sometimes, a set just... _clicks_ with me. I like the set. I like playing it. Sue me. Aaaand I also got Valgabroth in a draft and hard cast it a couple games soooo

@itzmasterz 3 дня назад

That’s gotta be rough for the opponent 😂. It’s turn 8 - 10, they finally feel like they have you and you slam the biggest thing in the set.

@zackpumpkinhead8882 3 дня назад

@@itzmasterz I have lost a game with valgabroth in play

@itzmasterz 3 дня назад

@@zackpumpkinhead8882 equally rough, for you this time. Sorry man 😅

@dickdeoreo 2 дня назад

I’m playing a Rakdos deck rn and it’s rough. I’m 3 - 1 rn and every game I win, I have like 2 - 4 life left. It’s too suspenseful. I can’t take it

@awildsylveon9896 2 дня назад

I had him in the sickest reanimator deck I've seen thus far. Even had the 2 cmc survivor that foolishes a card

@pierluigiadreani2159 3 дня назад

Since I am early I would like to ask: why is abhorrent oculus increasing in value so much?

@whiteboysushi 3 дня назад

It's extremely in demand across multiple formats. It's one of the best cards in Standard right now, and there are Tier 1 archetypes in older formats that it slots right into as a 4-of. It's also an easy upgrade for any blue commander deck that cares about facedown creatures (like the new Jump Scare precon) or self mill.

@MotivatedPony 3 дня назад

Your honesty is great, makes you trustworthy! 😊👍

@dyne313 3 дня назад

I stopped drafting this set way earlier than Bloomburrow.

@Mark-g4k9q 3 дня назад

Skill issue?

@dyne313 2 дня назад

@@Mark-g4k9q No, I just didn't like it like I did the last set.

@nikmidclayton5933 2 дня назад

This set makes Bloomburrow look even worse. Bloomburrow is like a 3/10, Duskmourn is great 7ish/10.

@sallomon2357 2 дня назад

@@nikmidclayton5933 yeah, I loved Bloomburrow's flavour, but the only time I felt I had fun was at the end of the format when I managed to draft a fun Frog deck, and even then I only went 4-3, so fine, but nothing special.

@dyne313 2 дня назад

@@nikmidclayton5933 That's an awful take. This set makes Bloomburrow look like a 15/10

@SpitefulAZ 3 дня назад

bring back crack a pack!

@nitiratp 2 дня назад

444.

@stefanoderosa9506 3 дня назад

Where are the other cards you overrated?

@sallomon2357 2 дня назад

Can you give some examples?

@dickdeoreo 2 дня назад

He makes a video about it…. Stay tuned

@stefanoderosa9506 2 дня назад

@@sallomon2357 no, I haven't run through data and rewatched the set reviews, I was asking because I was curious

@sallomon2357 2 дня назад

@@stefanoderosa9506 oh, then the rest were probably either on point or off by like one grade, e.g. C to C- or whatever and he didn't really see these as worth mentioning.

@zlkanglwrth2776 День назад

Why make a video showing how out of touch or ignorant you were? Are views that important?

@NizzahonMagic День назад

Because it's a useful exercise for everyone. No one is right about well...anything 100 percent of the time, and certainly not card evaluation. Looking back and seeing where the format is different/I underestimated a card in general makes us all better.