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10 Common MTB Chain Maintenance Mistakes & How to Avoid Them 

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The chain is one of the most important components on a bicycle and often one overlooked! In this video, Doddy shows 10 common chain maintenance mistakes and how to avoid them, so you can keep an efficient drivetrain and also prevent premature wear to other components! Hopefully, these top tips will help you save money and allow you to just focus on having a great time on your bike! 🤘
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@666vraptor
@666vraptor 3 года назад
About dirty chains, i had an incident when i was working in a shop. This guy came in with a problem that his chain was jumping but only on the lowest gear. I started diagnosing the problem and found out that his dìrty chain was in fact so dirty that the gap between the 1st and 2nd sprocket was completely full of dirt, it was compacted because of the chain's pressure. The chain was sitting only half the depth of the teeth in the sprocket. As soon as i cleaned the space between the sprockets everything worked like a charm.
@h82fail
@h82fail 3 года назад
That happened to me 2 weeks ago from leaves. 11T was slipping out just as you say mid ride, ended up just using a small stick to remove the leaves between the 11T and 13T and back to normal. Before I had a look I was scared but just no place for stuff to go between those smallest gears.
@Logan-tf6nk
@Logan-tf6nk 3 года назад
I have had this happen in a single ride in the snow
@cameronmaguire1356
@cameronmaguire1356 3 года назад
I was doing some work on my partners kids bikes after they said ‘I can only use 5 of the 6 gears’.... the first sprocket was not only cover in mud, I couldn’t find it. I took the mud off and could see the outline of the sprocket!
@davee1884
@davee1884 3 года назад
Hope you charged him for the bike cleaning service as well as the maintenance... or at least gave him some friendly advice.
@adambrickley1119
@adambrickley1119 3 года назад
Who would take a bike for repair without cleaning it? I hope you have a cleannng fee b4 any work.
@pinus_nigra
@pinus_nigra 3 года назад
Single use quick links is a hoax! I've been using them for years, joining and splitting them dozens of times, and they never ever failed.
@billydasher5518
@billydasher5518 3 года назад
Me too!
@caramba10
@caramba10 3 года назад
Yep same here.
@TheStryder400
@TheStryder400 3 года назад
As well
@jumperdriver1
@jumperdriver1 3 года назад
Totally agree
@cameronrobertson9518
@cameronrobertson9518 3 года назад
We literally re-use them in the shop I work in
@wazzawalker6536
@wazzawalker6536 3 года назад
Please do not forget that some chains are directional eg. some Shimano products. Thing to remember is the lettering goes to the outside.
@TCK71
@TCK71 3 года назад
I always reuse quick links, never had a failure. It’s marketing designed to fleece!
@snicklefritzal
@snicklefritzal 3 года назад
Every time I clean my bike I take the chain off via quick link and shake it around in a tupperware pot with some degreaser... Never been able to get it proper clean any other way. I guess I'm committing two sins.
@quinntitchkosky5396
@quinntitchkosky5396 3 года назад
Yeah I've taken mine apart dozens of times no problem ever. Always have a spare on a ride so if it ever brakes it's no biggie
@ManuelMartinez09
@ManuelMartinez09 3 года назад
same here with 10 and 11 speed chains
@bewimotos
@bewimotos 3 года назад
i take it apart wash with soap then with gasoline, dry it, then lub it and back to the bike. no problem either with the quick link
@simonpowell2559
@simonpowell2559 3 года назад
Works just fine for a while, but when it's worn out.... I find if the roller falls out of the middle of the chain it won't hold. It's probably time for a new chain anyway.
@toddoskin
@toddoskin 8 месяцев назад
Quick emergency tip -- if you need to remove quick link and dont bave removal pliers , you can use a shoe lace... loop it through both sides and then twist both sides together until it pops open. As you twist the loop gets shorter and shorter
@jhibes9103
@jhibes9103 3 года назад
When I get a new chain, I keep the quick link from the old chain on my bike with a tube, tire levers, etc. Even though they are "single use", I figure it will get me (or a riding buddy) home.
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 3 года назад
Good idea!
@bobbyhempel1513
@bobbyhempel1513 3 года назад
Tgey aren't single use they just say that so you will buy more.
@lsdrifts4544
@lsdrifts4544 3 года назад
why are they single use?
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 2 года назад
Never understood why you'd use tire levers.
@phantomflame0658
@phantomflame0658 2 года назад
@@s.sradon9782 Maybe he's a roadie, you almost always need tire levers when you have like 23c tires
@jamesnizzy9774
@jamesnizzy9774 3 года назад
11:15 found this out the hard way, spent 2 days trying to figure out why my gears where shifting so badly after replacing the chain... saw it jump on the second day and was beyond relieved but also fuming at my stupidity. DON'T DO A ME!!! haha
@donjohnson6283
@donjohnson6283 3 года назад
watching someone talk about how cool a "chain checker" is at 2 am .....Think I have a problem ?
@hodgo1981
@hodgo1981 3 года назад
I know everyone's situation is different and everyone values their time and finances differently. But I do a lot of miles as an endurance XC rider, So I see value in owning 2 chains (per bike) and cooking my chains in Wax, cooking in wax is by far the BEST way to get lubricant into the rollers, and no dust or grit is attracted to the outside of your chain or rollers. Usually I can get 200km of wet riding or up to 500km of dry riding, before changing a chain then every month or so I thoroughly wash both chains in petrol. Then cook them in candle wax for about 20mins. As for longevity, my last chain using regular lube lasted 1300km, the 2 chains I am currently running have combined 3500km, and are at about 0.3 wear. Also on the reusing connectors, I reuse them, never had one fail, but after about 5 times I might replace them because the "click" close does not seem as strong, and twice I've had the pin fall out of eagle joining links.
@NonLegitNation2
@NonLegitNation2 2 года назад
I actually messed up a few days ago when I installed a new chain and I wasn't paying attention while passing the chain through the rear derailleur and like you showed I ended up passing it over one of those tabs. I then noticed that for some reason I couldn't shift into my highest gear. I was just adjusting my derailleur earlier today because of this and kept hearing a clicking noise no matter how much I adjusted it, finally after about 15 minutes I noticed what i had done. I am installing a whole new groupset on Monday so I'm definitely going to pay attention this time.
@Icantfindtheanykey
@Icantfindtheanykey 3 года назад
Should have made this tutorial years back. I had to learn this by trial and error and watching more than a dozen other vids. Well done Doddy!
@bartus9891
@bartus9891 3 года назад
If you plan to use a wax based lube like squirt you DO have to degrease!
@johns9974
@johns9974 3 года назад
AGREED
@666mcc
@666mcc 2 года назад
Moreover most of the chains are covered with such a sticky grease that it's going to form grind paste during 1st ride. My colleague following chain producer recommendations didn't clean the chain and after a couple of of MTB racing wore the chain to .5 on new xtr cassette. I've been always cleaning up the chain before waxing it and my chains have barely .2 of wear after riding 100s of hours in various conditions including winter, mostly XC, where you have 1000s gear shifts per race/ride! Using xx1 and ybn chains in various colors (to distinguish which chain is for what bike and what chainring) and 1295 cassettes. I am a bit tempted to buy one of these fancy KMC chains and follow their advice to not to clean the chain before 1st use. Of course i won't be able to use wax. I am wondering if they will reimburse me the cost of premature wear of the drivetrain if it will happen (and it will for sure - check test from zfc!).
@flippy66
@flippy66 3 года назад
I've also always re-used chain links and never had an issue ever. The single-use thing is a wasteful scam. Nothing breaks on them when you unclip them, nothing is damaged and they are just fine to re-use.
@mooganoid
@mooganoid 2 года назад
Same here. Never had one fail after re-using. Yes, after a LONG TIME they do fall apart.
@flippy66
@flippy66 2 года назад
@@mooganoid Yeah but I'll probably fall apart faster 😂
@Mylity66
@Mylity66 2 года назад
If you re-use your quick-links a lot like I do (I wax my chain so it's a weekly thing) you run into the risk of your chain falling apart when going down a trail or snapping open as you pedal or worse case scenario, snapping as you put power on the pedals standing up, that can lead to very serious injury. Still, you can re-use them safely if you follow some minimal precautions: 1)Do not re-use an old chainlink with a new chain. Even if it looks fine, don't. This is more a matter of wear and tear, the old link will have the same wear as the pins on the old chain and you will have a wonky new chain with that one slightly longer link that will cause unnecessary wear on your drivetrain, even noise. New chain? new link. If the old one feels good don't discard it, keep it in your emergency kit, give it away to a mate in need. 2)New links are a bitch to break open, a tool like in the video is nice but you can open them using a piece of brake cable, after 8 or so times they can be broken using just your fingers, this is fine, you can continue to use them dozens of times more. 3)You should inspect your links every single time carefully after they become easy to break by hand. When they loose their bite that means they are old and you should have a replacement on you at all times. You want to look at the pins, any sign of pitting or trenching and the link should be discarded, this can take a very long time to show up, several months usually (remember, I break my links 4 times per month minimum), your tolerance with this should be next to zero. 4)Before undoing your chain for whatever reason, give it "the dance" at the link area, that is, to bend the chain sideways 5-10 times in an attempt to make the pin slip sideways at the quick-link, apply some force, not much. It should not do that, it should behave the same as the rest of the pins and stay in place, if the pin is gonna come loose it will do it under not much force at all. If it does, replace it. (I've seen this happen once in 5 years, pitting happens first). You can successfully wear out a chain using 3-4 links, and again, that's coming from someone that soaks his chain in a wax pot every Saturday.
@flippy66
@flippy66 2 года назад
@@Mylity66 If you're having to break the same chain multiple times then there's another, much bigger issue - i.e. the riding. If you're breaking/damaging your chain/drivetrain so much that you need to break the same chain lots of times before you buy a new one (or drivetrain part), that's the problem.
@noseudian
@noseudian 2 года назад
@@flippy66 He is hot waxing his chain in a pot, it is not recommended to do that with the chain still on the bike. As to the necessity of doing it every week, we do not know his conditions and distances. If he has the time and likes the process, who are we to judge? More sustainable than buying new cassettes frequently because of a dirty drive train.
@Captivateitmedia
@Captivateitmedia 3 года назад
Love your vids. Always so detailed and helpful. Thanks for your explanations!
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 3 года назад
Them colour chains are mesmorising running through the derailer.
@banditsharp
@banditsharp 3 года назад
Coloured, mesmerizing and derailleur.
@woduk
@woduk 3 года назад
Yeah and expensive those DLC KMC chains
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 3 года назад
@banditsharp I couldn't type properly. I was mesmerized, you could even say entranced totally consumed. What ever it was it's was soon over when I saw the price of the chains..
@oskarmeester3062
@oskarmeester3062 3 года назад
Isn’t there an cheaper alternative then? One that still has one of these nice colours but doesn’t cost a dumb amount of money?
@phantombigballs8165
@phantombigballs8165 3 года назад
@@oskarmeester3062 nope
@oldnotwise71
@oldnotwise71 3 года назад
Great video, I've shared this to lots of riders who don't understand the importance of the chain and its maintenance.
@cindyb4984
@cindyb4984 2 года назад
Fantastic description and now I am versed in chain care and repair! Love you guys! Thank YOU!
@easyrider7694
@easyrider7694 3 года назад
KMC 9 speeder chains and power links absolutely brilliant!! Used these for many years and show they are robust. Tryed other chains seem to break. Stick to what you know and don't go back to the other.. 😊 🚲
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 2 года назад
Very worthwhile! Thanks for producing this video.
@zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu
@zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu Год назад
Thank you very much. One of the few videos actually mentioning degreasing a new chain and what to do. Ive seen so many guides/tutorials where they just put on the new chain and maybe show how to measure the correct length but noone every states what to do with the factory grease.
@johnjohannemann1220
@johnjohannemann1220 2 года назад
Excellent information as always. Good job!
@mikemal48
@mikemal48 3 года назад
The best video I have ever seen on Chain maintenance and so much information..A+++
@ianlloyd1182
@ianlloyd1182 2 года назад
Hi Doddy, thanks again for your informative videos, much appreciated. I live in Australia and ride where the terrain in mainly sandstone. I’ve found the factory grease attracts sand and grit like bees to a honey pot and results in a very gritty drivetrain in no time. Personally I’ve found the best solution is to completely degrease the chain to remove all grease and then use a good quality dry or wet lube depending on the weather.
@jramirezar
@jramirezar 2 года назад
I had the same problem, no matter what the weather or terrain is, with KMC chains, the factory lubricant can converts to a glue and impregnates everything in such anoying way, that it is very difficult to wipe off, I had to clean mi cassette and chainrings with a microfiber cloth and alcohol; and for the chain, hot water and hard degreasing soap for a long time... Never again leave the factory lubricant on any chain...
@TheBigRed.
@TheBigRed. Год назад
I make my own wax base lube been doing it for decades with great success from mud to the Desert racers, here in Australia. 🇦🇺👍 People need to learn how to clean a chain and drive line properly. Noooooo... You need to Degrees and Clean any new chain!!! Remove all oil base lube!!! Then Wax a new chain from the start in a wax bath slow cooker. Learn to clean and lube with a wax base lube after big rides. Problem solved. 👍👍👍 Of course the Chain company told you that as they want to sell more chains down the track.
@wematanye533
@wematanye533 Год назад
A bad chain break happened to me just the other day. I shortened my chain prior to riding and I thought that having it too short may have caused this - but after watching this video I'm now thinking it's because I re-used one of the pins when rejoining the chain! In any case, when the chain snapped, it somehow threw the derailleur into the spokes. You can guess how that ended.
@VideoPresence2020
@VideoPresence2020 7 месяцев назад
This guy is so good. Two year old video. If he's still on the payroll, then give him a raise. You want to keep him. Thanks.
@samaxel_19
@samaxel_19 3 года назад
Thank you! Very informative
@lonewolf30531
@lonewolf30531 3 года назад
THANKS FOR CONTENT !!! You guys are awesome .
@hollyhustlaah5937
@hollyhustlaah5937 3 года назад
Tx u doddy! Ultra useful presentation. 👍🏻
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 2 месяца назад
Great video, very helpful tips!
@Coolcmsc
@Coolcmsc 3 года назад
Great vid. Wax lubes were dismissed too superficially - an unusual error mate. They have their place, pros and cons. In the correct situation, they are better than wet or dry. I’ll leave it to you for right of reply as to when wax has value.
@hodgo1981
@hodgo1981 3 года назад
100% percent! and cooking chains in wax is still very good in bad conditions- so not true that wax lubes are only good for dry and dusty.
@Coolcmsc
@Coolcmsc 3 года назад
@@hodgo1981 Thanks. As a result of your advice Ive researched this - I’m a science based professional who’s been a reviewer for a major scientific journal, so I know how to do this. And guess what, you’re correct haha! This vid is directly addressed - trashed? - in the post I’ve linked to below. And the full independent data on how to care for a chain is to be found on the website. Of course, being good engineering science, there’s masses of information. Hopefully, it won’t be dismissed by those who quite reasonably don’t have time to read it all. If you have 10 minutes, enjoy this and consider posting to Doddy as the author requests. zerofrictioncycling.com.au/latest-zero-friction-cycling-news-factory-grease/
@luftkukenw3617
@luftkukenw3617 3 года назад
Very informative video. Thank you.
@niranfernando65
@niranfernando65 3 года назад
Fantastic chain maintenance video Gear help Keep up the good work 👍
@jeffs7267
@jeffs7267 Год назад
great video, thank you!
@samhedges4443
@samhedges4443 3 года назад
Perfect timing... hanger snapped, had to remove chain. Now I know everything I need to do/check before replacing chain on bike 😁
@jimbo80982
@jimbo80982 3 года назад
Ugh I don't envy you!
@sjeses
@sjeses 2 года назад
Very useful, thank you!
@Superrun357
@Superrun357 3 года назад
learn with every video, such good stuff
@QoraxAudio
@QoraxAudio 2 года назад
9:55 instead of that additional tool, you can use the back of your chain checker - that's what the two hooks are for.
@tobiaslord
@tobiaslord 3 года назад
Always love your vids Doddy 🙏💪
@rainergrunbeck6538
@rainergrunbeck6538 2 года назад
excellent, thanks a lot
@idamelin
@idamelin 4 месяца назад
Really good video. Thank.
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Год назад
This is sort of a Masterclass for beginners. Well done 😀👍
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 2 года назад
Thanks GMBN 😊
@allenglishknives6823
@allenglishknives6823 3 года назад
Great video thanks 👍🏻
@cb6866
@cb6866 3 года назад
Thanks Doddy. Be safe mate!
@suntzuwarsword1964
@suntzuwarsword1964 11 месяцев назад
Very informative..thank you
@supersherpa3214
@supersherpa3214 3 года назад
Very informative, thanks ! I’ve recently upgraded my rear coil to a bigger travel , and have had to adjust my derailer, setting it closer to my spokes seemed to make things smoother , the geometry was changed a lot , higher bottom bracket which is a bonus , but now my head angle is less ( on a 120mm fork). Now I need a fork upgrade ! Any recommendations!? It’s old , and 26”. I will definitely be looking more closely at my gear and chain . Thanks guys
@dominiquedock
@dominiquedock 3 года назад
Thanks a lot man.
@alexwonner7469
@alexwonner7469 2 года назад
Superb presentation. Tks
@jasonrhodes2391
@jasonrhodes2391 2 года назад
A informative video, you Managed to pack a lot into a few short minutes Respekt Regards Jason
@curtisf.r6233
@curtisf.r6233 3 года назад
I would never have thought about a chain or tech, the way Doddy does! But that's my biggest mistake right there. Thanks Doddy! 🍻👍😎
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 3 года назад
Hold up. KMC make chains. How do we know this isn't a carefully plotted means of making us ruin chains so KMC can sell us more chains? 😉 Excellent video and actually pretty informative.
@jimbo80982
@jimbo80982 3 года назад
The pretty colours and all of the KMC products showcased make me want to buy metal 🤘
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 3 года назад
@@jimbo80982 honestly dude, it's 4am, hot as balls and instead of sleep I'm rewatching GMBN and debating if I should drop £115 on a colourful KMC chain. In fairness, they coat their chains better than SRAM and Shimano, they'll last.
@WelshGallivanter
@WelshGallivanter 3 года назад
Very good info thanks 👍
@Whitehawkvisionfilms
@Whitehawkvisionfilms 2 года назад
Such a great video!
@bugboy152000
@bugboy152000 3 года назад
#GMBNTech Seeing those very dirty chains literally sent chills down my spine!!!!!
@bartholomeusclever
@bartholomeusclever 3 года назад
great video ! thanks
@erhan6095
@erhan6095 2 года назад
Great video.
@FIGHTTHECABLE
@FIGHTTHECABLE Год назад
Yep pretty much knew most of the tips. Some refreshers, but yeah mostly I follow the same ways.
@richardarden7291
@richardarden7291 3 года назад
Nice informative video, I used white spirit on a cloth just to surface clean my chain after every ride (road bike). Then give a full wet clean and chain degreaser bath) every few hundred miles or so. Seems to work for me and prolong my chain health.
@lozetchells9164
@lozetchells9164 2 года назад
Very helpful for a noob like me, thank you!
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Год назад
I like that tire lever slash chain tool. Clever!
@lawlerskeetz
@lawlerskeetz 3 года назад
Don't re-use quick links? Bugger off, I'm not buying a new quick link every time I want to take the chain off the bike.
@woduk
@woduk 3 года назад
Only sram power links that I thought was once use only kmc links supplied with chains I use many times without issue
@theterrifictrio5514
@theterrifictrio5514 3 года назад
I have found that (though it was 11 years old) my master link literally slipped apart, and on one occasion came apart (easy fix obviously). Moral of the story? Replace them occasionally.
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 3 года назад
I re-use quick links so often that my only rule is if I can undo them with my fingers then it's time for a new link, and that's only been once since 2010.
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 3 года назад
@John Smith You have stronger fingers than me. Never could undo the 10 speed link without pliers.
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 3 года назад
@John Smith Don't think doing weights will add any height :)
@daztastic147
@daztastic147 9 месяцев назад
Amazingly I watched this video last night in advance of fitting a new chain today which I haven’t done for quite some time. Incredibly even after watching the video I ran the bloody chain underneath the little plate on the derailleur and as described here it worked but was horrible and noisy, it was only when I looked carefully I realised what I’d done and remembered this video!
@lwittrock1
@lwittrock1 3 года назад
Great video!
@dh_silas
@dh_silas 3 года назад
Awesome video. So interesting 💯💯
@GDoggProductions
@GDoggProductions Год назад
Thank you for sharing :D
@hjcolon24
@hjcolon24 3 года назад
Those are some noiiice looking chains
@bobble1476
@bobble1476 2 года назад
doddy spot on video dud boring topic made interesting nice one and I have learned something
@eroticmasterbaker
@eroticmasterbaker Год назад
BEST chain video Ever!!!!
@jojomateo7604
@jojomateo7604 3 года назад
Nice tip
@DaeganJones
@DaeganJones 3 года назад
Snapped my chain on the first accent of a grand opening of a bike park. Coasted back down and went into the shop, not only did they have the chain I needed I had exactly enough money in my wallet to pay for it. That was a fun day.
@BawlzOfuzz
@BawlzOfuzz 3 года назад
After this I've decided to support my local bike shop 🤣👍
@sergeantcrow
@sergeantcrow 2 года назад
Brilliant !
@daliborbenic6287
@daliborbenic6287 2 года назад
Great video
@treebutcher2000
@treebutcher2000 3 года назад
Brilliant video
@jonnyscott8910
@jonnyscott8910 3 года назад
Wasn't really aware of people taken the grease off a new chain as , well it's a pointless exercise and I've seen some friends bikes and they complain about noises and I !lol at them and think'hows about cleaning the bike after each time it's getting use, great video and especially for this time of the year.
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 2 года назад
stuff we need! 👍
@rodneyconlon6080
@rodneyconlon6080 2 года назад
FANTASTIC !
@markhogan9435
@markhogan9435 3 года назад
Love the blue and black ...
@arcadegir2520
@arcadegir2520 2 года назад
Nice vlogging guys really helpful
@Velo1010
@Velo1010 8 месяцев назад
Been using the same chain for 8 years. And before you say I don’t ride my bike think again. When I purchased my Specialized full suspension MTB new many years years ago I was riding every weekend. It all comes down to chain maintenance. This translates to cleaning/washing, drying, and re-lubricating it frequently.
@IvanPrskalo
@IvanPrskalo 8 месяцев назад
I just love those KMC DLC chains. I have one in orange/black and one in yellow/black... They are good lookin and even better performing.
@beerenmusli8220
@beerenmusli8220 3 года назад
Helpful!
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 3 года назад
I used to rotate 3 chains, until it could not be done anymore. My old bike really wore down the drivetrain faster than my new one, way too flexy. So this helped alot. This also makes it easier to swap wheels with cassette already no skipping chain. I've not done it on my new bike yet, cus I rode way too little do wear it down, hope to ride more this year. Another thing to remember is lube can get too old, stiff, sticky and collect dust, grime, so if you let bike stand too long chain might struggle to move properly, it will reduce shifting performance. So don't let it stand for a week without cleaning and relubing. Never leave over lubed chain.
@OjStudios
@OjStudios 3 года назад
That KMC chain tool is brilliant. Had it for years, the first pin is still going strong and it has another, just flip it.
@technodrone313
@technodrone313 2 года назад
i used to work for a bike part wholesaler. getting a shipment of chains was always interesting. a tiny 2-3foot high pallet weighing 500lbs. boxes were tiny but 50lbs.
@DT54
@DT54 3 года назад
Nice New Set Doddy
@xxxgabaxxx
@xxxgabaxxx Год назад
I'm happy to see an Orbea Occam there. I just got one of those bad boys...
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 2 года назад
I tried for the first couple of years with my latest bike (I have only owned and ridden a single bike at a time)... to keep it clean and shiny all the time, immaculate. I obsessed over the chain to the point of cleaning it during rides. This is all while averaging over 7K miles a year, 20 to 120 mile rides year around. That means for me, living in the Pacific Northwest, 4 to 6 months of riding in the rain and on muddy wet surfaces. I have a Rohloff Speedhub mounted on a full-suspension touring bike coupled to a BBSHD mid-drive and it's amazing. It's broken me to ever owning another bike without a Rohloff. The mid-drive and the Speedhub are made for each other, they go together like lamb and tuna fish. @ The 1st year I rode I changed the chain 8 times... whenever it got to 0.5% wear as tested with a Park tool. After another 25K miles and 4 years riding I now wipe the chain clean daily and swap my chains every 6 months. Drop the chain, flip or replace the Rohloff gear, mount a new chain, and ride. Always having a straight chain line makes it amazingly easy to maintain. 11 Jul 19 - 71 miles w/front panniers & trailer on less than 15Ah... 1/2 the packs capacity. www.relive.cc/view/g37290970278 photos.app.goo.gl/RD1NrDPCZQuHpWja9
@misternobody4716
@misternobody4716 2 года назад
I love your videos. I'm a self-taught bike guy/mechanic, been at it for about 27 years. There are still things I don't know, and I use your videos to supplement that and learn more. I'm getting into e-bikes, but I still have my little Haro Roscoe that has served me well, I'm probably going to be investing some of this new knowledge into it. Thanks again, and keep spreading that wealth of knowledge and experience!
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff 3 года назад
I always though Blake was the missing link.. Who knew it was part of your chain.
@tjacksondolph4026
@tjacksondolph4026 2 года назад
I bought a custom made mountain bike with no experience previously, and the guy that built it I found oddly enough had no grease on the chain it was just a light oil, it rides so much smoother with no grease.
@alexanderson7101
@alexanderson7101 3 года назад
Thanks for the 24 minute kmc ad!
@vdel7418
@vdel7418 3 года назад
i mean, they make pretty good chains. both of my bikes use kmc chains.
@eXTreemator
@eXTreemator Год назад
@@vdel7418 they make shit chains but many don't notice that
@patmcmaster1010
@patmcmaster1010 3 года назад
Don't forget the easy way to check chain length without a specific chain tool; with a steel rule measure the links up to 12" (brand new chain), if the chain measures 12 1/8" then it's knackered. Replace before it reaches that point and you may get away with not changing the cassette at the same time. EDIT: I've just found this other alternative method on a forum I visit and have copied it: I'm happy to use a 12" ruler but I know some folk are not happy with this method and would prefer some kind of unequivocal measurement. Below I have written up a method which might fit the bill. All you need is a set of 6" digital Vernier calipers (typical cost £12-20 for a basic version) which many cyclists will have already or find very useful for other purposes. Step 1. Zero the caliper. Whilst taking a between rollers measurement (BRM), set the caliper to zero in the 'inches' range. Step 2. Take the measurement. Slide the caliper out to an indicated ~4.9" and then take a measurement between the LH roller as before and the appropriate RH roller. Step 3. Do the calculation. An unworn chain should measure almost exactly 5.000" on this test, (but +/- 0.005" isn't unusual even on new chain) Any excess over that represents pin wear in the chain. Thus a 1% worn chain will measure 5.050", and a 0.5% worn chain will measure 5.025", and so on. The chain below is (with the caliper re-zeroed for that chains BRM value) +0.043" so is almost 0.9% worn. Checks and balances: There are additional checks that you can do if you want; 1) Check uniformity of roller wear. With the calipers zeroed as step 1, you can check other roller gaps. With 1/8" chain using most verniers you can check any chain gap, but with derailleur chain you can only check between outer side plate links (as per the photos) unless you modify your verniers by grinding the internal jaws to make them slimmer than normal. Most worn chains I have checked thus show remarkably uniform roller spacing, but if a (singlespeed) chain is used on even tooth count rings/sprockets, every other link may wear differently. 2) Check uniformity of chain wear. You can repeat steps 1-3 as many times as you can be bothered to do along the chain length. If the chain you are measuring shows uniform BRM then you can take measurements without having to re-zero the caliper each time. 3) check roller wear. In the image below you can see the difference in BRM as measured using a short length of unused chain of the same type (KMC 'inox'). You can see that the roller wear is ~0.024" different between new and used chains. Had this been included in the main wear measurement, this arguably would have constituted a >50% error. Even new chains show a variation of +/- 0.25mm (~0.010") in this measurement, due to small variations in roller OD and bushing clearances. So there you have it; I think this method may be a both simple and effective one for keeping track of chain wear. Having said that, I don't think it adds much to the results you can get by simply using a ruler, but not everyone is happy to do that. The vernier method arguably has a flaw (which it shares with all commercial chain checkers, pretty much) in that it relies on the rollers being free to move in the normal way that occurs when the chain is in use. For various reasons this might not always happen. NB I have taken these measurements on short lengths of loose chain, but there it is probably best if the measurements are taken whilst the chain is still on the bike. For example if the chain is very dirty, whilst the chain is still in its usual position, (just used) the rollers will be able to assume their usual positions without difficulty, but once the chain is removed or otherwise disturbed, dirt in the rollers may affect the measurement. For this reason, some folk advocate cleaning the chain before you measure it. If you are going to remove it and clean it anyway, why not.... but if you are not, it means that you will regularly waste your time cleaning a chain that is actually headed for the bin.... cheers
@AA-vj3si
@AA-vj3si 3 года назад
Thank you
@dennishermey5873
@dennishermey5873 2 года назад
Or put your chain on the smallest sprockets front and rear and measure 5mm from the last roller to the chain and most cases this is right on
@dennishermey5873
@dennishermey5873 2 года назад
Oops my bad should of read a lil further lol
@larrydaniels6532
@larrydaniels6532 2 года назад
You must have all day to think of ways to waste your time, spend $8 ( for a chain tool) and be done with all the nonsense, always measure chain wear with chain under slight tension, easily done with any chain checker, nearly impossible with your method, unless you want to make it a group project. This would be considered a measurement that is not hyper-critical such as derailleur cable tension or front derailleur height and attitude. A slight wear is that, just slight wear, the bike still performs as it should and it's simply telling you to stay aware of this issue and get a new chain when and if the tool indicates you should.
@robincurwood
@robincurwood 2 года назад
Hi Doddy. I noticed that you you mentioned about the third hand to hold the chain! You didn't see or mention about the other side of the chain checker which also used for that.
@Pasdechevredreamer
@Pasdechevredreamer 3 года назад
Good interesting effort. Would anybody recommend how waxing with PTFE for MTB's?
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 3 года назад
The metal chain link pliers are preferable. I blew one of these plastic ones apart the other day and the link didn't even budge.
@GaryvanderMerwe
@GaryvanderMerwe 2 года назад
5:20 Warn rollers don't change the pitch, and are not a problem. It's the wear on the links and pins where the link rotates around the pin that results in the increase in pitch.
@ka81alex
@ka81alex 3 года назад
Nice to see how you clean external part of chain with a rack on a fully clean bike with fully clean chain..
@michaelb9664
@michaelb9664 3 года назад
He was demonstrating how to remove the packaging grease externally from a new chain at that point.
@ka81alex
@ka81alex 3 года назад
@@michaelb9664 without "removing" it "internally"?.. Even nicer! ))
@ka81alex
@ka81alex 3 года назад
@@tonysadler5290 Have YOU ever tried to remove that "packaging grease" from NEW chain? Especialy with some spray and towel?!.. Try it yourself - more tea - ...
@xx-----------xx873
@xx-----------xx873 3 года назад
@@ka81alex some IPA and a fresh paper towel would do it.
@mascow7915
@mascow7915 2 года назад
Love to see that Totem and Marzocchi (what fork it is) on wall 😍
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 3 года назад
17:38 I use this brush for cleaning grips. 👌 But I use a Grunge brush for the drivetrain it has 3 brushes surrounding the chain, and I switch positions, it works really well, much faster and easier than the ones that are a box you poour degreaser into to.
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