I'll still watch it from time to time. I guess we can blame Mad Max for the blower thing, everything from this movie to Lone Wolf McQuade. I think Hollywood Knights got it right with the Hot Rod Project X 57' car in it.
Latello has some of the best lines! I use them often. Like when your cool, sun shines on you 24hrs a day! Hard to believe he played Benjamin on Short Circuit.
Random thought: John Stockwell ("Mike") did a couple of movies with hot cars in them. There was this one, and in "Christine", he had a blue '69 Charger. He went on to a blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearance in "Top Gun", and then went into directing.
The blue Charger was a 68. That whole movie had some beautiful cars in it. John was a good actor I think. Seemed odd all of a sudden he quit being in films. Before the Internet I had no clue where he went or what he did. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, the '68 Charger in Christine stands out the most and I will cover that one too when eventually making rounds back to Christine again down the road. 😉👍
And if you look even closer, he cameos in Fast and furious 4 as the guy Torretto go's to see about "runnin nitro" He's older, and his character is unlisted.
I always shook my head that the blower didnt move until a switch was hit about as good as "not double clutching like your supposed to" in a drag race lmao!!! And the floor falling out of the eclipse too lol.
Well, duh! The intake on Mike's GTO had a clutch like an A/C compressor, keeps you from losing all that horsepower turning a useless pulley until you turn it on!
It is a pretty cool movie; pretty corny though as it was aimed at around the "barely teens" back then, lol. Glad to hear you are enjoying the channel 😉👍
1st time I saw this movie I fell in love with the GTO. Probably never own one, but a badass car. Great movie and highly underrated, when looking at the movies that came out the same time as this one it was hard to compete with.
Was waiting for this one. It's one of my fave 80's movie muscle cars. Yes, the movie was goofy, but that adds to the charm. Knew it was fake on the blower, much like Mad Max's "blower switch" but dang its still cool. Like the info, great job.Thanks!
Thank you!!!! I asked you a couple times about doing a video about this car and movie, you did a great job!! I know there isn't alot of info on the cars, but you found some interesting facts ! Thanks again. It's one of those movies that is really good, awesome car, great affects and can watch it with your family,friends or kids!!! Very nice job, thanks again!!
I love this movie. It should have been a massive hit. There were so many awesome films in the 80's some of them got overshadowed. This was one of them. 😊
Saw this movie around 86. While watching it my father came into the room and started singing "Little GTO". He then showed me pictures of his Mayfair Maize 1968 GTO. He then told me some stories of his GTO which lead to my lifelong obsession with these machines. Sadly, he parted ways with his GTO in '77 for a Cadillac for my mother. 🤦♂️ I might add that he did not like what they had done to the My Science Project GTO, being a purist he thought it would have looked better stock but to me it was the coolest car on the planet.(still is.) Thank you for making this video. 🤘
One of my favorite 80s movies and the only GTO I really like. Pontiac planned on a 2nd gen retro goat but the plans fell through but you can buy one along with a retro T/A from a custom shop. I have been a proud owner of many T/As I can really relate to the mike character. I always wanted the air powered middle finger that would be most useful.😁
Great video as usual. I always loved this movie and being a motorhead myself, I've always loved Mike's Goat. I was totally surprised to find with your Fact #10, you showed pictures of the model that I built! Thanks for showing that. I used the Monogram 1/24 scale 68 GTO model although it uses a 69 dash. I had to modify the hood, removing the hood scoops to represent the Lemans/Tempest style hood. The snowflake wheels were from any of Monogram's 78 Trans Am kits which I had plenty of over the years so these were from my spare parts box. I had to raise the rear suspension to give it the proper ride stance which entailed removing the exhaust system from the rear axle assembly as they are molded together. The supercharger came from the Revell 68 Firebird 400 kit. I also scratch built a fire extinguisher to mount on the A pillar as shown on the movie car. Thanks for using my model in your video.
“Hey take it easy McCloud” and “I kind of feel Gregory Peck in the Guns of Navarone”- Vinnie Latallo 🤣🤣🤣 man I love this movie and Fisher Stevens was so funny in it!
Hi, as stated before, love this channel, you put a lot of work into it, and it has been an absolute pleasure to watch it grow, much deserved. Best Regards J
another excellent info filled video my friend. and i'm currently trying to come up with a viable reason as to why i never even heard of this movie back in the day. lol
Thanks and glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, the reason for that is because this movie was totally overshadowed by all the bigger budget films that came out that same wild movie summer 😉
@@CarStarz42 that and in '85 cruising the main drag in my small town was still very much a thing. we'd hit the drive-in about once a month maybe but most nights were spent burning gas and burning tires. lord i'll be glad when someone invents a time machine. LoL
. . The T-Bird character from The Crow's Big Body, badass thunderbird. . Would love to know the story behind that one. . Keep em comin, . Really appreciate the time and research you put into these.
I enjoy all your Videos, I just wanted to mention production of the Judge began in December of 1968 and ended after the 1971 model year copped its name from the tv skit Rowen and Martins laugh in. My dream car is the 70 Judge orbit orange black top. Thanks for sharing your wonderful all your wonderful videos. DAZED AND CONFUSED Intro car. With the black top of course lol.👍👍
Cool episode, I liked this car the first time I saw it, even with the prop blower and snowflake wheels. It just looked so good, never knew it had a built 455, that makes it even better 👍
My sisters boyfriend bought a 1966 GTO in 1983 for about $1500 bucks, from the original owner and in bone stock condition! Yes, they where not that valuable for a small window in time. My buddy bought a '68 Road Runner for $800! I myself had a '73 340 Magnum Cuda for $1500!! Always love this car more than the Delorean! LOL!
somewhere in my house i have a page from auto trader or some such magazine, from around 1989. These cars were a dime a dozen. On that page it has a chevelle with rebuilt engine and trans, all ready to go, for like $3500. the cars were in excellent condition and going for practically nothing compared to today. there was an impala on there, same thing, rebuilt everything for $1500. I wish i could find that thing, no one believes me when i tell them how cheap and unwanted these cars were for a while.
@@danwake4431 I remember when a friend of mine went to look at a 1966 Fastback Mustang for $1500! He passed because it was missing the engine and trans. And yes, it was a GT-350! LOL! This was around 1984 or so.
One thing to add, when I went to buy a muscle car, I wanted a 1970 ss chevelle. They were about $15k to $20k at that time ( 1997). I saw a red with black interior 1969 gto for sale in the auto trader for $3,650 !!! I knew hardly anything about gto's except for the one in this movie, I thought it was cool in the movie, so I bought it !!! Great car, had it for about 7yrs and sold it for $7k. Now that car is worth about $30 to $40k. So I'm sure the ones for the movie were bought for less than $10k. Those were the gold old days!!
'Hey Mike are you going to pick me up in gto or mother's wagon' oh i don't think mike's answer is difficult one as today's video was finally a request that needed to be made and will the weekend coming i can say this made my day so thank carstarz see you later bye now.
Glad to hear that and yes; I had more people request this one than I ever expected and it's been a work in progress for some time now due to it being tough one to find info on 😉
Great video, I've never heard of this movie until now. Im definitely going to find a way to watch it. Now, my list of requests is growing. The stripes EM-50 and now I'm wondering if you've got any interesting facts about Elroys Mustang from Last American Hero
Thanks yeah a fun corny film for sure; I have the blu-ray, but I think it's free on RU-vid now if you can tolerate the excessive ads on those free movies that is. 😉
What Fun, Thanks CarStarz. Back when 360 HP ruled the Drive-In.. Now you can buy a motorcycle with close to that. (Ninja H2) My first car was a '68 GTO, my last was a '67 GTO.. and Thank You Pontiac.
I was 7 in 1985 and I loved the film and the GTO! Used to marvel the car as a kid. Now as I am nearing 46 years of age - I would love to have this vehicle love my 80's!
Great video Boss. This movie came out while I was in the USAF and a bunch of my fellow airmen and I packed the on base theatre to see it. Good times indeed!
In Highschool I had a 68 Cutlass $500.00 beater regrettably drove it to the junkyard (I didn't like the headlights spacing) preferred the look of the 70.... Nowadays you can't even find a vintage Lemans to make a GTO clone / tribute!
Wow. Havent thought about this one in forever. It is funny how often HS aged kids in movies have absolutely badass rides. I want one where the hero or heros buddie drive an omni or something.
Great video! a few movies you could add to your list could be the gladiator 1986 which used retired General lees or catch me if you can 1989 with Dylan malone's 68' Chevelle
Another great, nostalgic video. . Love this movie, and loved his car. . . Another suggestion for you, . Gary Busy's Custom, battle equiped step-side pick-up from Eye Of The Tiger.
I love your channel been subbed for a while now. Its great of you to comment about how blowers cant be turned on with a switch which brings me to ask if you could do a vid about lone wolf mcquade? Chuck Norris's ram charger. It was an awesome movie. Thanks!
Glad you are enjoying the channel; funny enough, making this video also reminded me of Wolf McQuade and I'll quite possibly be looking into that one next 😉
@@CarStarz42 That's awesome! Thank you! I've always wanted to know what that was when he hit that switch. Granted I was very young when that came out but it's one of my most favorite 80's movies. I met Rober Beltran sometime in the early 2000's he had no clue. In fact he admitted he doesn't even remember making the movie! I started telling him the scene where he was racing chuck and Robert's line was " you cant beat me ranger I've got a supercharger!" Robert kind of went very silent for a few moments then he asked " do you have any star trek questions?" That guy must have done a ton of drugs back then. Lol.
Cool I never knew this movie even existed till this video thanks for the info also great representation of Bigfoot I was lucky enough to go see that truck perform at Soldier Field in Chicago back in 1982 and I was seated 4 rows away from where it was parked when it wasn't performing so thanks for bringing that memory back to me as well
I thought I was the only one that knew this movie existed. When someone sometimes repeats themselves, I'll just randomly yell out "legs, legs, legs!" :D
Switched blowers aren't feasible because compressing air takes a lot of horsepower and Roots blowers, specifically, have a lot of rotating mass. It is not something an A/C style clutch could cope with, for example. Instead, it would need to be more like a motorcycle clutch, but normally disengaged. It could be easier on a centrifugal blower, but high RPM activation would still be prohibited. Realistically, the fuel economy penalty for a supercharger spinning during no-boost driving conditions isn't enough to justify any switching mechanism. And I'd argue supercharger whine copiously sprinkled throughout a movie is better than a few scenes hitting a red switch. (Don't all these movie cars with switchable blowers have red switches?) BTW, I haven't heard the GTO referred to as a "Goat" in probably a quarter century. All the old car guys used to call them that.
Just a fyi, there is a company that makes Mad Max interceptor replicas that have a working blower that can be shut off. I dont think it puts a lot of boost out but it does put some. I think they use a modified a/c clutch for the on and off.
Love the video, but I will admit that I never knew about this movie yet it looks good to watch, but it would be great to see the scale models preferably in the 1/64 format though, still great video though.
Looking back on my Hot Rod-reading teenage years, I now find it hilarious that young-me didn't notice the missing carbs while at the same time young-me was able to rationalize that a "switched-off roots blower" means the rotors inside aren't turning, thus the rotors are blocking the air/fuel mixture from even getting into the engine (or in this car's case, just the air).
True, but unlikely that they bothered with that for a movie car in '84 when they filmed this; regardless, point being that the blower was indeed fake, so they probably did everything as cheap as possible 😉
At 1:27 In 1992 I owned a solid Verdoro green 68 GTO 400 4 spd.. ( solid, no vinyl roof ) with a nice interior but in need of a paint job, and it had the typical bent hood from people not wiggling from side to side as they lowered it ( If you tried to push straight down on those hoods you'd bend them everytime ) That car was badass someone had put a 373 gear in the rear and you could be cruising along in 2nd gear at 20 mph and push the gas pedal to the floor without dumping the clutch and it would smoke the 275/15's on the rear.. What I paid for it in 1992........... $2,000
TL;DR ahead: Open thinking of how to make a switch activation for a blower. Since it was mentioned here, the idea once more reared it's head as to how to make a switch activation for a roots blower. The idea itself is fairly straightforward, execution is another story. But for the idea, having the blower pulley able to be free spool or locked up would be something like how a AC compressor works with the engine running. Just a electromagnetic engagement. Perhaps as the pulley is free turning until the power is fed via the switch to close the engagement teeth to set the blower moving. Running it with carbs though would be a large issue since without the higher volume flow of air the car would be running very rich. If it was leaned down for normal operation without the blower, then activation would make for a very lean situation. So it might be easier to run with fuel injection and a program box to read that when the power is on to the blower this much fuel needs to go in. 30+ years on from the movie date in technology advancement would help tremendously.
@@CarStarz42 I agree one hundred percent. It could have been done probably, and it makes for nifty tv type magic. It also makes for a distraction level of engineering thought. Fun but not really useful.
The main problem is without the vanes spinning, very little fuel/air is going in starving the engine completely. It would have to have been air/fuel injected through the intake manifold with more fuel and air added the conventional l way once the SC was switched on.
@@wadefasshauer3973 This to is another issue with such an idea. That unless there's something of a bypass valve, kinda like a blow off in reverse that'll open if there's no pressure behind it. The lack of decent positive air flow would starve the engine out. Much like how is done to emergency shut down of a runaway diesel. As a side note: While I think having a supercharger/blower that could be turned on and off with a switch would be neat. It'll have next to no practical value as a power adder because it would just be overly complicated a build and we all know that complicated things in cars/trucks love to break. Usually at night, an hour from the house or any parts store. Often with near freezing rain in the height of summer somehow, and your cell service is no bars.
Yes, the technology was around to switch on/off a Roots type blower. How do you think a/c units are switched on/off. A good machinist can adapt an electric clutch to the drive of a blower
That isn't the problem. The air/fuel pulling between the vanes when they are not moving probably wouldn't be enough to keep the engine running. Also the tech to retune it for extra fuel delivery at the flip of a switch back then was relatively new and expensive.
Indeed and I knew it was '70 for the 455 well, but when you do recording sessions half awake; you misspeak sometimes, lol. Glad you enjoyed the video 😉👍
I think the color that year was called "Carousel Red". It was really more of an orange and another color was called "Orbit Orange" and was actually a yellow. Pontiac was colorblind back then.
No, it was actually "Solar Red" for '68, I checked the color sheet for that year to be sure as I thought it was "Carousel Red" at first too, but nope. Yeah, it is odd how some red/orange colors vary so much not only from shade to shade, but even it different lighting can look quite different, lol. 😉
Yeah, I knew it was '70 for the 455, just misspoke. I really shouldn't do recording sessions after being up for a couple days straight, of course if I didn't I'd never get any videos out, lol.
3:45 "𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘣𝘴 𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘳𝘰𝘰𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘺𝘱𝘦 𝘣𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳" Yes the blower is a prop but that's actually the correct way it should be set up. That style of "bug catcher" scoop is designed to act as the throttle for a mechanical injection system such as from Enderle, typically run on supercharged methanol or nitromethane engines. Look at some images of vintage top fuel or funny car engines and you'll see the only difference is those have injection lines(missing from Mike's intake) running to the plate just below the scoop. There are also poser scoops for single and dual quad setups that look the same but they are just for show. The butterflies simply move with the carb linkage or are controlled by vacuum.
@@CarStarz42 My theory is the producer or director said "We want a blower but don't make it so big that it blocks a bunch of camera angles". Someone on the crew building the cars probably thought the easiest way to do that would be going with a blown alcohol look instead of the typical dual carbs and scoop. On the subject of availability, the Enderle system I think the prop might be modeled after has been around since the 50's. I saw quite a few complete used systems with barrel valves and an assortment of nozzle jets at the Englishtown swap meet in the early 90's for less than $900. It would also fit the character of Mike to have pulled one off a wrecked race car in a junk yard. It's where most teenage gearheads got their go fast parts back then, including the 327 short block and aluminum L98 heads that went into my '69 Nova. Even the nomenclature of common blowers(6-71, 8-71, etc) comes from the 2 stroke Detroit diesels they were originally scavenged off of.
I’ve been trying to figure out a way to find both the GTO’s in this film! No luck! I have talked to the guy that owns the Better off Dead Camaro though
@@CarStarz42 oh yeah! Funny thing is he lived close by me and the Camaro was in all our car shows but I never got to see it in person! My wife would completely flip out when I tried to go to the car show! I didn’t end up,talking to him until after he moved away from me! I was so sad and still angry with my wife over it!
@CarStarz You say at least twice the movie is not well known, but you are mistaken. Nearly everyone I've spoken to about sci fi or 80's movies in general, has either seen this movie or heard about it from multiple people. As for me i saw it in the theater twice, years later rented it from Blockbuster, and watched it on TV once.😂
Numbers wise, it was a little known film compared to other movies that released that year is what I meant, go compare it to Back to the Future for example; very few people I meet have ever heard of this movie, but everyone knows about Back to the Future regardless of their age 😉
Yes, of course I knew that and even mentioned that other movies did and mentioned it in my Mad Max video too; what made think otherwise? As I said, several movies use that concept, but all are props as it wouldn't be feasible/efficient/sensible to do so for real...
