10 Dumbest Things In Star Trek III: The Search For Spock 

Came here to say this, thank you :D

Same 😆

me too lol

Hahah! That's right, they actually explained that!

This would definitely get a facepalm from Captain Harriman. 🖖😁👍

Plus you can't use them inside

@@layton3503 Seriously?

@@WardyLion none of this is real - yet

This film may be a fun mushroom 🍄 trip. But the sequel when Kirk fights God. The producers must have been halling acid. Fun but makes no sense.😆😁🤗

They still could have mentioned her. Said she was sent somewhere else.

@@robert_bbiii Hell, say she was in debriefings or getting counseling- that was a stressful ass situation for anyone, let alone a civilian, to find themselves in. "Mom, take a few weeks off, I'mma go check out our planet with Starfleet and CC on any reports. Come on out when you're ready..."

@@Sephiroth144 they don't want us all in one place so they separated us. Thousands of one line answers that bwould cover it.

@@robert_bbiii If they would have said to David... I'm sorry your mother couldn't make it. That would have been fine, but if they mentioned her by name (Carol Marcus) then they would have had to pay the writer who created her character. Just cheaper not to mention her.

@@robert_bbiii Kirk actually does mention her in the report that Kruge intercepted, though not what happened to her. KIRK: To fully understand the events on which I report, it is necessary to review the theoretical data on the Genesis device as developed by Doctors Carol and David Marcus.

I was literally just about to comment that.

That's what really matters: was it fun? I enjoyed seeing it in the theater with my friends and it's still enjoyable. (I have the 2xDVD sets from way back.) The nitpicking is fun also--this isn't supposed to be "hard science fiction." I once joked about how alien species on Doctor Who all seem to have English accents, then they went and explained the TARDIS' translator circuit, which covers the percieved accents.

Don't apologize! Though it *was* gracious of you--- one should *never* have to apologize for enjoying something that one *TRULY* delights in!

Same here! LLAP!

@@aliceharper707 You mene sakkhet ur-seveh 🖖🏻, as well, Mz. Harper!

Again no apology necessary

Not experienced enough to negotiate a hostage situation with a renegade Vulcan and his horde of homeless acolytes apparently.

There are also other ships in the quadrant during Star Trek IV but the probe disables all of them on its way to Earth.

Yet In Star Trek VI there are no starships protecting Khitomer even though the Federation President, Federation Council, Starfleet top brass, Klingon High Chancellor, KDF command, the Romulan Ambassador and various other dignitaries are on the surface. The Enterprise is not supposed to be there and Excelsior has to rush in to save the day!

I'm sorry, Star Trek V? Is there such a film? I don't know of any such movie. There was the voyage home, and then undiscovered country. I just figured by the 23rd century they had made the number 5 obsolete...🤣

Or Picard where every ship is in the quart

I'd say V is more contrived (and started the trend of Spock's secret siblings)

Contrived? Really? Wow! I’d say it has a perfectly natural flow to it, from the preceding film to the next.

Forgive me for splitting hairs, @@Sephiroth144 But it's his family members that make for a trend. The siblings don't. He never talked about Sybok. He never talked about Burnham. Is there a third sibling I'm overlooking? Only then would they constitute a trend. (By no means do I affirm Disco, btw, since it kind of invalidates itself. By all means, however, I encourage factual analysis.) So the trend starts earlier. Spock was secretive about his parents and about his fiancee+. Now what's so contrived about Final Frontier? Sure it's a coincidence that the menace of the hour has family ties with the First Officer. Sure the Enterprise is too easy to lure in and hijack. After that, they just fly to a destination, find a mere counterfeit for what Sybok was hoping for, and then they fly home. Seems to me the meat of the story doesn't take that much contrivance.

The add-in toward the end of TWoK makes sense, @@1978rharris Spock transfers a backup of his mind into McCoy's. There's some question of his exact purpose in doing so. Did he expect a resurrection was in the cards or was the Katra just his ethereal legacy? Then the Genesis planet, a final resting place that he didn't choose, just happens to exhibit regenerative properties. Then the researchers just happen to find him when they weren't looking. And one of them just happens to be a Vulcan woman sympathetic toward the repeating puberty he's going to go through. (Lucky Spocky!) Then his accelerated aging just happens to stop when he's physically old enough to be Leonard Nimoy at time of production. Then we learn there's a procedure for melding body & spirit, but the most recent account of it being attempted is so old no one's sure if it's even true. But it just happens to be just the ticket! 😂

@@alm2187 He supposedly had (at least) two siblings that were never talked about, with his closest friends, for decades. That Picard never gleaned from his melding with Sarek, or the various times Spock MM'd with Kirk, McCoy, Scotty (actually, just a whole lotta people) or that McCoy didn't know about when he was literally sharing his brain with Spock... Hell, the Spock's Starfleet records should have included them, as well as any briefing on the high level ambassador the carried around from time to time (that Spock called Father). I mean, without the records and the Katra carrying, you might be able to put it to secrecy- after that, yeah no. Sure, people might not talk about their siblings much, but after a decade, you'd usually know if they had them. Come on now, don't try an excuse the retcons from the writers (TFF or Disco) because they want their characters to be "relevant" because suddenly an established character has close relatives that no one even knew know about- twice, thus far. And one thing about the movie that really irks me is that Sha'Ka'Ree is in the middle of the Galaxy- and it took them, what, a few days to get there. While we hadn't gotten to Voyager's "roughly 1 year per 1000 light years" "speed limit", we know that warp wasn't near-instatravel, and you couldn't go half the galaxy's diameter in a day. (And if so, why was the Enterprise the only ship in range- call the ships at the Romulan border, they can be over in five minutes, apparently.) There was no Kelvan space magic to explain it away even- they just did.

That reminds me of one of my favorite lines from Babylon 5: "Half of Earthforce wants to give you a kiss on the cheek and the medal of honor. The other half wants you taken out and shot. As a politician, you learn how to compromise... which by all rights means I should give you the medal of honor then have you shot."

@@GSBarlev Still think the proper compromise would be to shoot Sheridan and then posthumously give him the Medal of Honor. Well, double posthumously...

Except Kirk didn't get a commendation. I wouldn't consider being reduced in rank from Admiral to Captain a commendation. The only reason he wasn't drummed out of the service or busted all the way to Ensign was because of what he did in saving Earth in Star Trek IV. But at the end he didn't receive a commendation for stealing and destroying the Enterprise.

@@BrennaUrbangirl That's all true. Except we're discussing Star Trek III. When Enterprise returns to Space Dock, they are met by the CnC, Admiral Morrow, who tells them they will all be receiving Starfleet's highest commendation, including Kirk, followed by an admonition against speaking of Genesis (he probably preferred them with Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett, and all the later stuff just wasn't his style. What? Wrong Genesis? Oh. Nevermnd).

@@michaeltortorice9876 I see what you did there. By the way: Supper's ready. ;-)

Maybe Ben Kenobi disabled the tractor beams. 🤔

Ben became "more powerful than you (Vader) can *ever* imagine". (Maybe Force-👻 ghosts can travel betwixt galaxies!)

Maybe that was the person she locked in the closet! ;)

The particular station was conveniently empty during the heist.

Yeah, I've actually thought about that for years now, David Marcus was being too hard on himself, the Genesis torpedo didn't go off in the controlled environment it was intended to, and that's probably why the planet was unstable.

Heh, that didn't cross my mind, but that would have been a better direction for the writers to take. Still, the character beats are good.

Oh wow, I just got it now after you pointed it out! 😂

No, it's very overrated.

Definitely not the worst.

Then, we get Save The Whales in Star Trek IV.

Interesting! They should have done some laser engraving on the unused space like Megadeth's Anarchy in the U.K. single.

I think there was only one song on side 3. It was that synthesized version of the movie's theme. My brother had it on vinyl when i was a kid.

They needed the body to put the mind back into it is the whole conversation between Kirk and Sarek

There should have been no body, ronl. David even mentioned that the gravity was in flux to try to explain a soft landing. It was expected to have burned up in the atmosphere.

The novelization has her visiting the family of 1 if the victim's, who we find out was her lover (she tells this to Kirk).

To prove Klingons wrong the Feds should have perfected the device and used it on an inanimate moon 🌙🌚 away from civilized worlds. Once Genesis is proven successful offer it as a solution to refugees. Others.🤗

@@hackman669 Maybe in an ideal world, but I dont think it would have ended well if the Federation continued with the technology. No matter how noble the intentions behind the development of the Genesis device, the Federation had ended up with a potential weapon of mass destruction. Even if the Federation perfected the technology and demonstrated its humanitarian use, that would not stop others from covetting the tech for destructive purposes. Can you trust the Klingons to use it wisely? The Romulans? Its like nuclear technology. The technology you need to achieve enriched fuel for nuclear power is very similar to that which you need to achieve enriched fuel for nuclear bombs. Many nations have hidden their nuclear weapons programs behind nuclear power programs. I think what most likely occurred geopolitically is that the Federation was shocked at the technology that it had developed and quickly tried to have any and all further research into the technology deemed illegal amongst the galactic races. They probably promised the Klingons to destroy all technology, to stop all research, and bury all information regarding the technology in exchange for the Klingons not presuing it themselves. When it Enterprise returns, the impression I got from Starfleet is that the Federation was desperately doing political damage control both internally and externally with other races, trying to prevent a war or an arms race. No matter how many successful humanitarian demonstrations the Federarion performs, there will always be those who will see nothing more than the potential of a weapon of mass destruction that can irradicate a whole planet's population and ecosystem and rewritting it however you wish.

Yeah, I gave it no second thought since time had passed and the underworld as it were would have heard something by then.

Interesting! This makes me think of an old short-lived webcomic called Haultrek: "Because someone has to haul the stinky stuff!"

So true! I expect a certain fantasy element in Star Trek--it's meant to be fun entertainment. Perhaps my expectations would be different if Michael Crichton or Stephen Baxter were writing episodes!

Price doesn't necessarily mean money. The obvious go-to is credits of some kind, so there is no need to carry physical currency, but it could also mean information, property, favors, etc.

Well stated! Thank you.

"Because the movie wasn't over, *yet* ." --- Screenwriter Guy.

Robin [ *REDACTED by Starfleet Operational Support Department 31.* ] (Just saying.)

@@YesTHATJohnSmith Ooops.(use Vulcan Mind Meld, I never posted that...)

@@YesTHATJohnSmith See? I got it right... totally didn't use edit to change it!

@@brunozeigerts6379 🤔 Uhhh... 🔍 change what, again? (Did you need to change something? I'm afraid me memory's a little fuzzy on the matter...) 😉 🥂