Everytime I see a list like this one, I remember that The Rock, arguably the biggest star (side by side with Stone Cold) from his era, put Hurricane Helms over.
Remember those inflatable toys that's weighted on the bottom so they pop back up after punching them... hbk was basically a human version in that match
I actually found that match entertaining. To me, hbk selling like that made sense to me. Bc Hogan was supposed to be this powerful, unstoppable force, and hbk was visually smaller than hogan, so it made perfect sense to me.
Agreed. Possibly the G.O.A.T. in every way. I think you need to look at guys that he respects as list of people who have redeeming value. His moral compass.and heart seemed to always be in the right place. The fact that he was going after a young Shawn Michaels, yet they ended up "friends" to the point that Michael's retired to him, says a ton about the man. He was hard. He was honest. But, like that coach that you sometimes hated as a kid, you love him once you mature. Also says a ton about how much Michaels matured over the years. The top on ring performers, in the modern era 1980-now, who could do ANYTHING in the ring...style wise, pace, moveset, tell a story...would be Styles, Michaels, Undertaker, Bryan, Angle, Hart, Kanyon, Guerrero, Benoit... But, because of who they were/are...Eddie and Undertaker are the GOATS.
@@jasonschwartz9481 lol was a good read. Undertaker is the GOAT. His relationship with Vince is something nobody else could have had. And to be on good terms with that man by just being who you are, without compromising your own integrity, I don't think that's even possible with anyone else! I guess the way to deal with Vince is just to be too fucking good lmao
@@jasonschwartz9481 you forget about his anti gay homophobia? I still rate him a better dude than most but that chair shot on Kanyon keeps him from being the goat.
He actually did wind up with his jaw wired shut, and had to eat through a straw for a bit, there's working snug (like strong style) and there's physical assault, in the business, you're number 1 job is to protect each other, not make it so they lose income, and ever notice when Foley did the barbed wire stunts,most of the time he had clothing on? It wasn't on bare flesh. It's wrestling accidents like the ear can happen, DK had little man complex with roid rage, he was unsafe and worst part, he didn't care.
Being a fan from the 80's who knew Hogan was so difficult..... going back and watching my DVD collection of wrestling matches... Now I totally see it...
Working a program with Hogan in the 80's was going to be a giant paycheck for you. Just ask the Big Boss Man. His first paycheck was $25,000. Jake "the snake" Roberts was pissed that his planed program with Hogan was killed. Because it was going to be his biggest paycheck ever.
His onscreen persona was bigger than life back then. You have to separate the actor Terry from the character Hulk Hogan. The Hogan character was amazing. The man Terry, always kind of a prick in real life.
I saw that Roddy Piper biography last night. It amazes me how completely out of nowhere Hogan actually understands ring psychology. He's hijacked the show/gone into business for himself so many times in WCW. Sting, Warrior, Bret Hart, he got Roddy Piper a 6 month contract just to bury him.
It's not completely out of nowhere. You might want to pay attention to his time in Japan. You will find that Hogan is a far better worker than he appeared to be in the WWF. He only worked as much in WWF as Vince needed him to.
Go watch Hogan in Japan. He had skill but all McMahon needed him to do was get beat until a certain point then do his thing. We all ate it up even though now it looks pathetic. 😂
@Herry Valenzuela I lost interest in Lesnar like years ago. Ever since he needed like 10 minute breaks to catch his breath in the middle of his matches. Then he's always blabbing about how dominant he is.
@@SardonischerDean she was still a decent worker and the infamous "yelling" vince did to her and mccool for putting on a good standard match is still spoken of today. she was one of the best talents and had the most creative stiche tbh.
Moolah:1.Kept others from getting a bigger push,2.Jobbed only to the likes of Richter if given more money,3.had minimal ring skills,4.stayed way too long,5.held women's wrestling hostage too long,6.had no problem helping screw Wendi Richter,6.ruined Ivory's career with that stupid feud,7.taking money from others she held down.
Technically speaking, a lot of wrestlers really liked working with Hogan during the Golden Age. People who wrestled and jobbed to Hogan in the main event were paid more than pretty much everyone else on the card.
@@SardonischerDean I can't wait for all of the Vince screwing people over to come back on him at some point. And, with the way that stars are now in mass Exodus to AEW and, well, ANYWHERE else...it may be that time. Hell, he's even screwed up the best thing that they had in NXT. And, in turn, screwing over HHH's hard work.
@@jasonschwartz9481 He'll never pay for it. He's basically handed the reins to the next generation anyway, and he's got so much money that the organization could shut down tomorrow and wouldn't affect his quality of life. His ego maybe, which is huge, but that's it.
If they do, I would expect to see Big Show, Bayley, Daniel Bryan and Finn Balor on that list. I keep hearing stories and anecdotes about how lovely they all are behind the scenes.
@@paranoidpixie95 I never hear anything bad about the Rock. I'm curious if that's just careful planning from his team or if he was a good person? McFoley was supposed to be a good guy and helping the younger talent too.
Macho Man would have to be in that. He made his opponents look great, sold well, and put talent over. RVD too, considering how much friends he had backstage.
You know. I despised xpac and hated on him for years. Now that i found out he took a dump in that worthless waste of a roster spot Sables bag, i like him now.
How about dropping the undertaker on his head. He literally almost killed two of the greats. He basically prematurely ended Harts career. The Jericho story is there. I actually love how undervalued Jericho was at one point. As soon as Michaels retired for the first time I Jericho became my go to. And, man, his first day in WWE, with The Rock, showed how great he would become. Back then the WWE knew what to do with other company's talent. Jericho, Eddie, Benoit, Saturn, Malinko, The Dudley's. Unfortunately when they had an entire roster but out...it was too much talent at once.
When I worked at Marriott in the late 80s and early 90s, I met a lot of wrestlers. The 3 who stood out to be genuinely nice were Snuka, Orndorf & Ric Rude. Even though I had no problems with any other wrestler. These 3 just stood out more easily to talk to. Even though we gave them their space. Some employees would put a closed sign at the pool, but these 3 would always take them down & let anyone swim with them.
How is Abdullah the Butcher not on the list. Between his stiff wrestling style and his blading (especially after being diagnosed with Hepatitis C and then giving it to someone), who would have wanted to get in the ring with him.
Whats really ridiculous is, 9 times out of 10 the stories told about him are how he's a piece of shit but when talking about his murder he's made out to be a saint. That type of shit is so annoying.
@First Last No?... Did you not read where I said that the stories that people who did know him told, are about him being a complete asshole? I mean jesus dude either don't ignore shit or focus on comprehension of what you read.
Threatening to have Vader fired mid-match seems unwise. What if, instead of crying, he'd just said "Well if I'm unemployed whatever happens, I may as well just beat you to a paste Shawn"? I'd watch that.
Thing about Goldberg is that he acknowledged his in and out of ring issues. He even credits Diamond Dallas Page as the man who was always pushing him to be better and gave him his best match. He admits that Page carried him through that whole match. And Kevin Nash admitted that the WCW stars didn’t treat him very well because of his inexperience and a bit of jealousy. Even sort of apologized. Not in person of course. Lol
When Goldberg snaps someone in half and beats them easily, he makes you believe he just destroyed his opponent. He may have a limited moveset but he makes everything he does look real and devastating. His great talent as a wrestler is criminally underrated. That ability to make kayfabe look genuinely believable is what sets the best apart from the rest, and make no mistake, Goldberg is one of the best of all time.
@@namikstudios he just got pushed too quickly. As an athlete- he’s among the best ever big boys. I’ve always heard how nice the man is. Never understood the negativity.
Honorable mentions to Daniel Puder and Justin (later John) ''Hawk'' Bradshaw Layfield . Man the beat down Puder received in the Rumble match with Chris Benoit, Chavo Guerrerro and Hardcore Holly breaking characters
The problem with Mil Mascaras was that he refused to SELL for anyone who was NOT a LUCHADOR and even then he only sold for them when they were top draws. Yes, Alberto is a POS too, but at least he didn't no-sell most of his opponent's moves. Alberto is/was a great worker, too bad he's a total piece of shit as a human being.
Same though what Aries did when he was in Impact last time was extremely unprofessional on his part. It wasn't like he was losing to some random jobber that suddenly got slingshotted into the main event picture.
Brodie Lee never actually took his name from Bruiser Brody, he took his name from a character in a Kevin Smith movie (said as much on an appearance he made on Jericho's podcast)
I assumed CM Punk might be on here. A lot of people didn’t like him in the locker room. I guess that was part of what led to him being disillusioned with the WWE.
Punk's problem were mostly with management, he actually tried to help and promote talent he worked with, be it the Nexus, Straight Edge Society or even Daniel Bryan and others.
I think this category was unfair to Hogan. Many many wrestlers liked working with Hogan ( Kamala, Bundy, Orndoff, Muraco, Valentine etc) because he was a safe worker who guaranteed you a great payday. Lanny Poffo, Randy Savage's brother even said working with Hogan on SNME was better than anything else of his career. Wrestlers who felt they could challenge Hogan's fame were the ones complaining cause he wouldnt put them over..otherwise Hogan was a safe wrestler who guaranteed you loads of money.
Right? He just didn’t want to lose…which is whatever to me?? He was by far the biggest star I don’t think he should’ve lost very often either tbh. He knew his worth.
@@balance1619 I’d love to lose to hogan lmao , main event spot , nice pay day and if you put on a good match you might get yourself over OR get another match with him and eventually go over .
Yeah but MOST did not. And rightly so because he was giant 3 year old about everything, a sore loser, self absorb, didnt want to lose to anyone because he thought he was the best, an ignorant and a racist. He wasn't even that good, especially compared to the athleticism of people like the Undertaker, British Bulldog and Ultimate Warrior - basically any who he tried to hold back. That leg drop thing he did was pathetic as well. Nothing but a ketchup and mustard flamingo looking wasteman.
@@balance1619 Losing is part of the job. Remember it's scripted. It's alright not to want to lose in terms of competition but the way it works, there's a storyline and a plans to follow. He really wasn't even that good.
Frank Goodish was the man. He was a huge draw everywhere he went. He had every right to protect the product and image he created of Bruiser Brody. He certainly no sold some people but he also put over a lot of folks and had some great fights. Many of his matches ended in dq's, draws, and count outs to protect his tough guy image but the crowds loved the guy. His feud across numerous territories and even across several countries with Abdullah the Butcher is maybe one of the greatest wrestling feuds of all time. Nothing but respect for the man and the character he created. He was why I watched wrestling as a kid.
I think everyone liked working with Shawn Michaels. I think it was the times when they were around him and they weren’t actually working is when they didn’t like him. Like in the locker room or on the plane. But in the ring, The only guy that really had a tough time working with him was Vader and that was because Vader just didn’t want to hurt him
That was when I realised how scripted wrestling was. Sting and Flair had hell with Vader. Vader would squash Shawn Michaels easily in WCW or Japan but in the WWE he was literally jobbing to him.
Correct. They didn't have a problem working with him. They hated being backstage around him. Hell, even Bret Hart admits he never had a problem in the ring with Shawn.
As an younger fan that didn't see Michaels matches in real time; going back and seeing Michaels' matches, I can only say that he had amazing chemistry with every freaking body. Whether he was fighting a giant, or the match against Mysterio Jr. for Eddie Guerrero's remembrance--Michaels had an amazing rhythm in sync with anyone who was in the ring with him. Really one of the greatest INSIDE the ring. Backstage is another story.
@@jamjox9922 as someone who did see it...he's probably the best I've ever seen in the ring. Only others that can touch him are guys like Styles, Undertaker, Bryan, Eddie (the closest), Hart and Benoit. Maybe Rollins when he's engaged. He was as good on the mic, and at telling a story, as CM Punk. He could work any pace and style. The ladder match with Hall was amazing in the fact that it really was Shawn against a Ladder and Razor was the prop. I know this is long. But, with the lower back pain he was in, even upon his comeback...he never once put on a bad match or did it half hearted. To me, undertaker is the GOAT because of his leadership and other things. But, the fact that the Undertaker was willing to end Shawn's career over a two year program, tells you about his respect for him. Michaels is still the GOAT inside the ring.
Hilarious to have Hogan on this list. When wrestlers in the 80’s loved working with him cause as they often said working with Hogan meant $10,000 extra per show!
I guess it was another era entirely, working with Hogan meant usually being a short less of a main eventer, because of course Hogan did not lose his time on jobbers and nobodies, he wanted to bury other performers that could contest his dominance. So, let apart the obvious implications of being the sacrifical lamb of the night or eventual punishments, being in the same ring with Hogan, even for squash matches, usually meant money and spotlights.
Ridiculous really. Hogan went off the rails in WCW but for a decade he had every single live audience in the palm of his hand every single night, and people want to work with that.
"Tip of the iceberg" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. It means "the small bit you can see with a lot more underneath" or even "just the beginning". For example, you would say "Stan Hanson angered people by being stiff. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. He also...etc." That colloquialism that you are looking for, I believe, is "the straw that broke the camel's back".
Actually many say he is a good dude and love working with him and yeah there is a couple of bitter talent who don't but it's mainly the fans who twist rumors and stories about what he said or what he did
@@theSANDMAN366 big show, samoa joe, christian, samoa joe, EC3, john cena,shawn michaels,bret hart, stone cold, the rock, cm punk even gave him props, by my count that's more than 3 people
Moral of the story: If you're not as good as shawn michaels was during his prime, then you have no right to act like that backstage and wish you could get away with it.
I'm shocked that the ultimate warrior, Scott Steiner, brock Lesnar, and lex luger didn't make the list. I've always heard that they were difficult to work with. Either too stiff or just wanted to do their thing.
Rumor has it Undertaker was so stiff in the ring and was so good at the office politics everyone who ever worked with him only said nice things as to not incur his wrath. (For the record that was sarcasm, some people dont understand that sarcasm exists)
@@painvillegaming4119 if I had to pick one it would possibly Rick Flair. In his book he referred to Mick Foley as a 'Glorified Stuntman'. Foley addressed his grievances with Vince. Flair got upset upon hearing about it and when he saw Foley Backstage he attacked him.
9:16 Ok, so it wasn't just my imagination, growing up as a kid in the 90's that wrestling seemed to be way more interesting and popular than subsequent periods
The first name that came to mind when I saw this list was Warrior; I'm shocked he's not on it. WWE pretty much did a smear documentary full of wrestlers talking about how they didn't like working with him haha.
@@neilsun2521 Sure but the list isn't "10 Wrestlers Who Were On Top For A Long Time and Weren't Liked By Viewers," It's "10 Famous Wrestlers No One Liked Working With." He was a very famous wrestler that other wrestlers didn't like working with, so I think he's worthy of the list.
@TheVolourn Exactly, and also wrestling Hogan was akin to Conor McGregor's "red panty night" concept haha. You don't like the guy and have no particular interest in working with him because you think it'd be a great experience, but you know that a program with him will get you noticed and paid well, win or lose. This as opposed to an example like when Stone Cold said one of his favorite guys to work with was Savio Vega. He really didn't have anything to gain professionally from working with Vega, but he just enjoyed it. Guys don't enjoy working Hogan, they just enjoy the exposure and payday.
Shawn: I’m gonna get You fired! Vader: Cries Shawn: I’m gonna get You fired! Mark Calaway: Say that again son?? Shawn: Understanable have a great day!!
What's cool here is to see that some people do change. Michaels is one. A lot of these guys just never humbled themselves. Michaels, having to retired that young was humbled to a degree. It also shows that we are built through adversity.
Mick Foley: Damn Dynamite is stiff man Mankind: Throw me off a 20 foot cell, throw me through a 20 foot cell, backdrop me and chokeslam me on tacks, and tombstone me on some too while you’re at it.
I think there needs to be clarification: Some wrestlers lack the skills to sell their opponents. Some wrestlers have no interest in selling their opponents.
@Michael Myers yeah keep telling yourself that...... As I said before "his reputation speaks for itself" but go ahead and believe whatever you want. This isn't just an opinion
Unbelievable that Morrison and Melina could be that stupid, Melina was a jobber in the Divas' division in early 2011 (think about that), and was nowhere close to Mania before they had a women's battle royal most years. It was actually Kelly Kelly who was shit-canned from that spot by Snooki, not Trish, and didn't even appear in the Snoop Dogg segment. Melina was never considered for that match and was on Superstars mostly, if she was lucky....
"Nobody wanted to challenge Brody". The man was stabbed to death in the locker room, so I get the impression that someone was willing to challenge him.
Sure, but I’d say that getting stabbed to death by someone who every other wrestler on the scene not named Tony Atlas was willing to cover for us a pretty good sign you aren’t liked
@Bryan Robinson Yeah, because a few centimeter of mat covering the concrete floor can prevent him from cracking his skull during that botch. But I admit that his head could have hit the ring apron instead of the floor.
@Bryan Robinson that...that’s not how physics work. I am not going to get into a debate about physics things in a darn youtube wrestling channel. My point is Ryback saved Kalisto from a dangerous botch.
The Rock: “Yeah, I know i can actually act and have talent beyond pro wrestling, plus I’m a decent guy, so I’ll put other guys over.” Hulk Hogan: “My “talents” are EXTREMELY limited, BROTHER! I can’t act for shit, and I’m EXTREMELY insecure and ALWAYS need to look like I’m the BEST even though everybody knows that pro wrestling is completely staged, so I CAN’T lose to younger guys even when I’m OLD AS HELL and ANYBODY with HALF a BRAIN realizes that I’m only WINNING because I don’t want to LOSE!!!” “BROTHER!!!”
So, while WhatCulture's hiring policy probably starts with "does your name start with A," I think their new-video discussion begins with "how can we take another shot at Hogan?"
Another mention should be Enzo. The dude got on a lot of people's bad sides and Neville even left the WWE due to having to drop the Cruiserweight title to him. Not to mention was kicked off of the bus one time for his overall out-of-control attitude.
He wasn't bad at first. His problem was that as he got bigger, he was relying on certain main eventers like Hulk Hogan to navigate backstage politics. That was what really fanned the flames between the legitimate real life heat between him and Jericho in 98- according to both Jericho and Eric Bischoff.
Everybody LOVED working with Hogan. Hogan was the money match and you knew you were in the Main Event. It's like boxing Floyd Mayweather or fighting MacGregor.
Almost all the wrestlers PERSONALLY hated Hogan for his ego & backstabbing. Working with him because you'll make more money & but actually disliking it along with hating him personally are TWO different things. LOL
I’m really surprised one of the independent wrestlers isn’t on here. I think his name was jake something. He almost killed a few wrestlers in ring. His punches were stiffer than actual chair shot to the head
Goldberg being a main eventer I'm 2022 is absolutely a hindrance to the product, he's over 50 years old, I don't care what he was. He's not that now, and he never will be again.
6:11 It wasn't a "Bar Scuffle". It was at an arena, and it was a planned payback. He waited for him with a roll of quarters, and just nailed him on his way out of the cafeteria.
I don't believe he was reckless so much as borderline untrained. Goldberg being called up way before he was ready is one of the few things most seem to agree on.
Hogan once said about Hansen that, "He is a good friend, with a good heart, but when he gets you in that ring, he doesn't care if you're his friend or not!"
