10 Loud Mistakes Beginners Make in Entry Point 

also the commando class is useful in ironman mode.

Breacher is as well, I got Phoenix Rising on one

Just have all hybrid classes, there are enough slots for it.

Heyyyyyy hybrid classes that aren't jug or infiltraters also I run specialist

That’s me when i started playing

Loud customized shotguns are really good.

I like the heavy weapons mastery since you are lighter so basically and “technically” with demolitions expert you are 90% less heavier instead or 200% it’s 110% now

The shotgun is the most damage dealing weapon in the game, with all damage perks it has a possibility to 1 shot a juggernaut or shredder on elite/legend so it's really good with a choke and stock, the sawblade and thumper are more of ''kill farming weapons'' but they are effective against enemies with high health pools such as the gunships, onyx and juggernaut units

@Pream Meephet illegal? You need to be sent to the boiler room of hell

I use F57 and MM20, because mm20 has very low recoil making it useful in a pinch, and the F57 is just all around great, however, people always ask why I use mm20, but really it’s burst turns into the fastest fire rate in the game, and it has pretty good damage, t he only downfall is it’s low ammo pull

i have max battlefield medicine and i only use medkits once im about to die so i dont waste any

@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 i dont even have max battlefeild medicine and i do something similar, wait till i get low but not so low i die in a few seconds

If i'm about to run through a large open space (like to elevator in the score) I make sure I'm at full

Dual ravens also take up both primary and secondary slots, so you’re also swapping the F57 for less ammo, less penetration, less fire rate, and more recoil.

@NoodleSoup then there wont be the ammo capacity advantage/rate of fire advantage since the ammo is pretty much the same, the rate of fire also the same, but ch-a more damage and penetration. come on raven is trash at most scenarios(not all but most)

@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 you never wanna bring pistols to loud lol

@@balcuv unless you use dual pistols, then its alr

go akimbo like john wick

Ah yes happens everytime

Yes. Always happens.

What is that loadout dude i need to know

@@alrah5978 concealed S97 and 480 MCS, frontline armor, silent drill, 3 medkits and 2 grenades

I have a few loadouts... My stock one is dual K45 or whatever it's called, silent drill, keycard scrambler, two medkits, and two grenades. My stealth run loadout when i'm not on rookie is a single UP9, a silent drill, and occasionally a keycard scrambler. My LOUD one is a sawblade, K45 because it's my strongest secondary, frontline armour, and then I think a drill. The rest is pure medkits Edit: Was just reminded I said this, for some reason I thought the K45 was the other pistol you could get and my braincells overlooked that F57 is the AR.

I shoot them back when it happens to me lol

@@epRivera not if operative in your room does it first or somebody uses screwdriver on window and has bad eyes and shoots you instead of guard. Right rivera?

@@visorblx I have a special trick to survive when that happens :>

@@epRivera what is it...?

@@visorblx it's a secret :>

6 characters with 75 level (or even 12 characters with 100 level if you have legends pass), Ironman legend (but I think you've done it), experiment with skill tree for stealth and loud and learning the map for ultimate health

@@dreamingsus9996 thx

Yeah

@@dreamingsus9996 Oh thanks mate

Just do random stuff like homocide or massacre

who goes to legend with no armor (just asking) unless you are doing stealth and taking cover in a hostile zone so guards dont see you

@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 I see it alot, In the main menu i see alot of people saying "Doing *insert mission here* Legend Loud No Armor Need Juggs anyone wanna join"

Especially helpful when your teammates are at very low health so you can tank the shot instead of them

Me with 2 sawblades:

yeah i also got bored and the jugg and infil so i made a commando, and currently making a breacher and technician, all with diff guns

i prefer tg3x cuz some mission have snipers

Bruh cha is a sniper unless you got good accuracy tg3x is always better

I'm not gonna lie but I use to think prox mines were more useful than med. So I kept dying on black dusk because I was more busy with placing mines than getting cover.

Well u could use them to kill the enemy while u fill the objectives

I made this mistake in rookie.....yea

@@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 how did u get nightmare assault on rookie???

Me personally I like S97 since it's used more often and costs less, but has about the same level of damage

I like the 480 mcs cuz its sounds cool

@@tf_is_this_shit by that logic I bet your favorite is probably the sawblade because it sounds absolutely badass and isn't just letter+number vomit

@@Riciliz nah slow movement speed suks balls

late to the party but adding up to that; its also useful in fi nancier to take down the panic room door, if u dont wanna waste ti me ofc

@@syntaxerr0r220 yes

Or breaking helicopters (if u can aim)

You can wallbang Ryan by standing in front of the keycard scrambler area and aiming a little to the left. You can do it with every weapon except pistols as long as you have enough damage perks. You may even be able to do it with pistols considering their perks are similar to the SMGs they take ammo from. So no, thumper is not useful on Financier.

I am the scrambler user normally

@@deadperson6227 it can be done with pistols too lol

uhuh, u need to get ur brain checked maybe, max scope? there are no long range fighting in this game, u can get by using the medium scope or even red dot

I know this is 1 year late but u could just hostage ryan

@@susussamongus1437 you can but in loud you can't

@@rycanlase3639 you still can before he start to run, it took him some second to react so you can hostage him by aiming on him

Literally just start a mission and instantly detonate ryan before guards can call backup Panic shelter is no more

i prefer to just kill him before the alarm

That's a stealth mistake not a loud one.

​@@deadperson6227mixed mistake not stealth one

That's obvious enough for anyone to understand though

i only use meds when im near 25% or 30% hp

@@seamusfeng3610 not really,

Highest mag scope 9n f57 is good as long as you have the canted sights attachment. Quick switch for close combat and scope for long range sniping (blacksite exit with rose, financer, lakehouse last, kill house drill)

@@Howthetoastcrumbled yeah that was a bad example, but you get what i mean. Extremely high mag scopes is bad for CQB loadouts.

Killing Ryan is really easy an even if he gets in the panic room there is a glitch where u can shoot him through the wall so it is better to not use the thumper

@@Dbid6 If you get good aim then yea but mostly it dosent work so better use an breaching tool

no dual pistol are trash and always trash if you have f57 and ch-a its no match

@@dungeondemonrbyt4354 Yeah I get what you’re saying. I was kind of a beginner when I posted that comment. Besides, that glitch got patched anyways. I only asked because he never mentioned the bug.

yk teammates can like carry, and like u hide and stuff, and that thing yk?

@Masterhunter358 I know what is ironman but i just need a guide about how to beat it

@Masterhunter358 sorry i dont have discord

Yesz

it is, but u can use other breaching methods like c4 or timelock

*what*

Hell ya, infiltrator useful for loud

@@Mewase forget juggernaut

@@thevioletwild what the hell is a juggernaut

@@user-jw8sd2xu6i Mercenary and Engineer (if this is a joke then hahahaha)

i agree with masterhunter bcuz even tho ppl do have playstyles, this game doesnt have alot of guns and f57 and ch-a are the only good loud guns, the s97 has very poor damage in higher difficulties and a crap ton of recoil, the cbr is the same case but its a semi which makes it even worse, the 480 mcs is only effective in point blank range which unless u absolutely suck, u wont be going up in enemy's faces, and saw makes u really slow and need the heavy mastery perk for it, and it has a looong reload time, and here on the other hand, the f57 does a lot of damage, super low recoil with assualt mastery perk, its lightweight and it doesnt take much time to reload and it even has more ammo than saw with the ammo vest perk, and ch-a is really good semiauto sniper that can oneshot most enemies, can be used for long range and with the sniper mastery perk, it can penetrate ballistic shields and bulletproof glasses. sooo yk, btw the playstyle thing, unof is talking abt loud weapons, not stealth.

Thats what noobs(newbies) always do every time i see a new player MCS EVERY TIME THAT ***** MCS EVERY Person whos NEW HAS IT i dont get it i mean it is good but u could Think about the concealmend and suppresor

considering what u told, it mightve been the sawblade which isnt bad with the heavy mastery perk and ur weapons dont have to be concealed in financier, u can have visible weapons in financier with disguise, and they probably brought those guns incase things go south

The problem is you get stuck when you do this. There is no simple way to stop preforming that action once you do that, so if an enemy comes.....

it sometimes automatically happens when u are lagging

Yeah it's pretty useful for strategizing or getting your team to get out of that room before the guards come I'LL GET YOU A DISGUISE CHILL. But yeah outside of that I only chat for RP purposes, when i'm in a safe spot, or when I'm strategizing

Commando is the worst class in the game. Trying to find the correct mix of loud and stealth perks often leaves you with not enough for one side. The only way to effectively use them in a normal situation is full stealth with advantage of two weapon mastery (ex: sniper and pistol), or full loud with the ability to loop cameras (ex: on Blacksite looping cams so you can stealth farther). Besides that, on loud the Art of Steal perk provides no benefits besides opening the safe faster on Financier. On stealth, the Combat Mastery perk only helps by giving you more stamina. Unless you plan to speedrun, or do no armor Financier commando is not useful.

For grinding, do loud SCRS if you started as a Mercenary, or stealth Financier if you started as a Theif.

@@deadperson6227 Thanks bro. I guess I'll go back to being a technician or breacher again. Thanks for the info, I'll side-main commando instead of fully maining him now. I appreciate the time taken to type out those comments.

@@savageo6495 np

listen, i played with 1500 ms, that never happened to me, and if u r playing the game with like 2000+ ms, pls, leave, u are just wasting a lobby spot, wait for ur internet to get better and then play

@NoodleSoup in I was dumb back them :D

@NoodleSoup and still am