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you realise a white man with Cuban ancestry is Spanish and there for European, also Spanish is a European language. you know this, please stop with the race crap and recognize ethnicity.
@@carlosrivas1629 So... the people in the USA who had grandparents from Ireland are still Irish? If anyone traces their lineage back far enough, they'll be African. I'm not sure the point you're trying to make, but I feel there may be a language barrier issue.
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I had the opportunity to work on STTNG for two seasons. During that time I had the opportunity to meet Ricardo Montalban and I can tell you that the pecs were definately real. He had a very strict and strong workout every day, despite being in horrible chronic pain from a spinal injury from an earlier film. One thing I always say when ever anyone asks. He was the lovliest man I have ever met, and on the day he passed, the world lost a living saint.
People tell me I take steroids and "always have". I'd be long dead by now, I don't even work out, I'm a gamer geek who does nothing for physical activity. Sometimes... Things happen. Dude just looked better than whiney lying babies. Happens.
My father was delivering a package and was given his address by accident. He spoke with him for a few minutes and was invited to have dinner with Ricardo and his family. He said the exact same thing about him.
The thing with Montalbán being in that shape is he always was in that shape. Before he went into movies he was a body builder. So yes he had to work out but it's not like he hadn't done that before and knew how to get to that build.
@@gohawks3571 The Untouchables, Mannix, And Mission:Impossible. along with Star Trek were/are the biggest shows that came from DesiLu Productions. The whole list is on Wikipedia.
On Ricardo Montalban: I found out those pecs were real when I saw this one old rom-com where he played a wealthy land owner in South America and was building a bridge, shirtless. Same pecs.
The odd wardrobe and waxed smooth tan chest did make Ricardo's chest seem fake. I remember some people did think his chest was fake at the time. They could have done it better.
George Takei testified in the memoir he wrote in the '90s that Ricardo's chest was 100% real. He and Montalban conversed in Spanish on the set during WoK, which Takei picked up living in the SF barrio as a teenager.
"Majel Barrett didn't have the acting chops..." Hilarious considering she's the single most prolific actor in Star Trek history, by far. Just under 300 episodes and movies, in about 20 different roles if you include the animated series.
Nope. The show's producers (Bob Justman and Herb Solow) said in the book Inside Star Trek: The Real Story that the issue was they knew this was Roddenberry's girlfriend, despite the fact Roddenberry was married at the time to someone else. They thought that was unethical, so they said she could not be on it. Period. So Roddenberry put her in a blonde wig. They knew he did it, but just shrugged because she was wasn't the lead any more, just a recurring performer not in every episode.
It helps when you are sleeping with the boss. Majel was a competent actress. The problem with the Number One role in The Cage is that the character was a crashing bore.
The Kirk and Uhura kiss was more about it being a black and white American kissing, than it being interracial. It's not about being 1st, it's about the cultural impact.
Though to be fair, British television actually had done two kisses between white and black characters onscreen years before Star Trek, but since that wasn't in the US, it maybe not was as much impact.
Fred Freiburger is universally known as the kiss of death on every single series he ever got involved with.his thirst for over the top,alien of the week shyte killed lost in space,voyage to the bottom of the sea and infamously Space 1999.he single handedly made sure 1999 never got a third season. and absolutely killed startrek dead.its a miracle that that corpse got resurrected. You ask any sci-fi fan what they think of Freddie Freiburger and they will all say what they think of him and how he ruined everything he touched....
None of Irwin Allen's stranded space or time explorers ..ever made it back to earth . Bit shoddy that ....doesn't take much effort to conclude a series
Judging by the way Lwaxana Troi turned out in TNG, I'd say that Majel Barret did have the acting chops. She was also the best computer voice I've heard in SciFi.
@@gohawks3571 Yeah, I know what you mean, the way she was constantly 'coming onto Jean Luc. It looked like he was constantly trying to be 'diplomatic'. Majel is wonderful.
I think the whole kiss thing is more focused on the white man kissing a black woman, though the others would actually take it as being interracial I think it’s because of the whole race problem in America being predominantly based on African Americans and because of that the kiss is more impactful between Kirk and Uhura. Hadn’t heard the Geordi’s family thing.
Yeah, the racial politics at the time were extremely tense regarding Black-white relations, and when it came to Asian and Hispanic people there was much less animus.
They and everyone means yes it was the first interracial black white kiss. I split hairs like everyone but when us Americans think first interracial kiss, we automatically assume black and white. So yes, to an entire country it was the first one....which star trek comes from america....so boom!!!!
Indeed! Gerry Anderson and Martin Landau totally said the same thing. Landau was especially vitriolic. It was ITV’s Lew Grade who imposed Freiburger to elusively capture the American market. Grade was a total tw*t.
I like Star trek Generations a lot. Malcolm McDowell did a fantastic job portraying a crazed villain. not to mention the one lesson takeaway: there's no fun if the danger isn't present.
Roddenberry himself said he had a decision to make. Barrett was his mistress and he didn't want on Star trek full time. He said so I decided to marry one and make the other one first officer. Since Leonard wouldn't go along with it, he married Majel.
Make Barrett cleared showed her acting chops when she played Lwaxana. Imho her other roles wete 2 dimensional characters giving any actor little to work with. As for 'the kiss' between Kirk and Uhura, I've always had a problem with it since it seems the only way it could occur at that time was to make it non-consensual. Love ya Sean! ❤🖖
The kiss in that episode being forced has been uncomfortable for me as well for the last couple of decades although I never thought about it that way when I was younger. That being said it's not even the 1st interracial kiss for star trek. Barbara Luna and the mirror mirror episode is Filipino-american and that kiss was consensual.
The Khan thing is so pervasive that it was even in the original Animaniacs cartoon in the 1990s, I still remember it! They were doing some kind of Star Trek spoof, and when Khan appears on the viewscreen, Dot goes "It's Ricardo Montalban and his big plastic chest!" or something to that effect. 😂
I'd love if every actor loved every thing they were in that I loved... But yeah, sometimes it's just a paycheck. But the most important thing for me, the fan, is that even if they're just there for a paycheck, that they deliver a performance that _feels_ like they love it and are a part of it.
Agreed. As long as not loving it doesn't stop them from giving a decent performance we can live and let live. Not every story or style is for every person.
No gays under Gene is only partl true... (fun) fact. Geordi was written to be gay. It was agreed on, to handle it "normal" (at least normal for 1987), but LeVar Burton once said in an interview , "Geordi was a gay man. When the show was in production, the producers were like Uhm.... Geordi is black, gay and disabled....that to much. Obviously we cant change black or blind anymore, so lets drop gay" and it was never mentioned on screen
so now a man kissing a woman a natural process is not considered but i would have to sit through 2 men kissing? this is why the new star treks aren't going to work
I much prefer Majel Barrett as Number One than either Chris Chapel or Lwaxana Troi. Maizlish kept interfering in the production of TNG to the point that Paramount execs outright banned him from even stepping onto the studio grounds. Maizlish even called David Gerrold a slew of homophobic slurs to his face. Gene should have dropped all ties with him.
I always wish they found a way to do more with atleast her race, if it's still canon that she wasn't human, I didn't even know she wasn't human until years later I heard a novel went into it atleast a little.
William Shatner for the WIN! In 1958, William Shatner kissed French-Vietnamese actress France Nuyen on the Ed Sullivan show. That beats Sea Hunt by a year.
Well, Gene Roddenberry was an incredibly prolific philanderer and "man's man", very macho, a cop, pilot, etc. He was probably partly compensating for his strong artistic impulses which, in American culture, have often been associated with homosexuality. Sad for him, but that's the way it was.
And he did like to play pokey pokey with lot'z o' women too. In today's world, they would have all filed sexual discrimination suits against him, starting with Nichelle!
I remember Ricardo Montalban being interviewed on Carson and when Johnny Carson asked him about the way he looked, Montalban joked about it being just make-up. He was probably just being modest, but that could be where that rumor got started.
It is possible to enhance clevage with makeup - apply darker toned makeup to make the shadows seem darker and thus the chest bigger/more defined. You do need something there to start with though.
Umm your misquoting what NBC said about Number one. They did not want a woman in strong leadership position such as second in command. There were MANY women that worked on the bridge during TOS series.
Um, when they talk about "interracial kiss", pretty much they literally mean white person and black person kissing. Pretty sure no one cared if white and Asians kissed by the time of Star Trek. And Desi Arnaz is a white man, a descendant of Europe. If Majel was the problem, and not having a woman in a position of authority, why didn't they find another woman to be Kirk's first officer. After all, it really is dumb that the captain and first officer were always leaving on the away team. Sure Kirk wants his science officer there, and that's Spock.
You've got to be young, and have been confused by this 1984 nonsense going on... Just because you're from Europe did not mean you're white... Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Greek, were not and in my book still are not white... and before you try to tear me apart for that statement it is what it is and I really don't care that they're not white but people keep redefining things until they no longer have meaning... by the way interracial means interracial... Not sure how else to say that
Garak is my all time favourite TV character...I think Andrew Robinson was brilliant. Casey Biggs' Damar may be the most underrated and underappreciated character on the show. Damar had a great redemption story arc, and died a hero, and yet he's never mentioned when people talk about the show. Dukat started out as a great villain, but that whole storyline with Kai Wynn, when he was pretending to be a Bajoran, was just stupid.
@@Terri_MacKay Garak and Dukat were both endlessly fascinating characters to me and they were brought to life INCREDIBLY well by two very talented people. I could talk about them all dang day, really. I just personally preferred Damar's arc. Garak got so much depth, but was still basically Garak, his personality didn't change. Dukat developed and changed, ultimately, into a worse person. (Waltz should have been his last appearance really.) But Damar came *so close* to redemption for himself and his people.
It's cute that you think you can build a chest by "doing press-ups while getting ready for the film" he was probably doing push-ups and other resistance training for most of his life.
@@gobbletegook officially it was explained that Lt Cmdr Mitchell thought that Kirk’s Middle name was “Robert” and never knew that it was Tiberius, since Kirk hated his middle name and never corrected anyone that thought it was something else.
@@RD9_Designs In 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' during the climactic fight between Mitchell and Kirk, Mitchell creates an open grave with a headstone that reads 'James R. Kirk'. Kirk knocks Mitchell into it and then causes a boulder to fall into the grave crushing Mitchell.
Another solid video but then I get to there's an urban legend that there's only one person called Gene who's worked on the show. Say what now? Who and where and why? Why would this when be said?
cubans were considered white during that time. it wasn't till the 80's that they really were considered different from white as people tried to "redefine" them as their own race.
Awe man! Great video, Sean is great as is the content. Star Trek Fleet Command however is just awful. Free to use, also frustrating and is ALL ABOUT pay to win. They are well known for their promotional materials not even closely resembling the game play. Star Trek awesomeness is the bait. Anyways great video fleet command sucks.
yeah, if it was just about the missions and stories, it'd be fine. basically a mini-star trek online. but the forced pvp really kills the mood for the game.
Perhaps they should have rephrased the kiss legend. Maybe it was the first Black/white interracial kiss on American primetime TV. No way was it the first broadcast interracial kiss period. Besides the examples you mentioned, I have a very strong suspicion 😉 that James Bond also beat Captain Kirk to the punch.
I consider 'Star Trek' superior to that other franchise, 'Star.....'.whatever. I still can't understand and am saddened by Star Trek merchandise and commercialism being second, or even nearly non-existent, compared to other franchises.
I'd like to get the ships as models and put them together :) I used to have the Enterprise (the Original one....) that I put together...but not anymore :(
I think the whole deal with the kiss was it was a black woman and a white man as the United States had a weirdly specific thing with racism at the time. A black man would be banned from the musicians union, Still the first black person white person kiss on TV wasn't Star Trek it was on a British soap opera in 64.
As a gay man, I never felt anything was missing. Outside of TOS being TOS, they are usualy a military vessel, and I roll my eyes at any PDA, straight or gay. You don't make out with people at work. That is why they ones that were not Discovery were good, the stories were never them working, unlike that kiss in front of the crew. Again, as a gay dude, I saw them waving their flag there. The TOS episode not included was an okay example, and would have been pretty big back then
"Geordi's reveal would've been too late in the game" Bashir's augment reveal in season five and Siddig's absolute hatred for it are laughing in the distance rn.
Great video as always guys. But please.. sponsored by start trek fleet command? WORST GAME EVER! They treat you as a cash cow… you get nowhere without spending s*it loads of money!
you dont get a chest like that doing JUST press/push-ups.... sorry.... if you MUST see truth in that, then he did a ridiculous amount WHILE taking some sort of steroid... you DO NOT get a chest like THAT doing JUUUST press/push-ups!!!! I'm sorry if you have difficulties accepting or understanding that....
Majesty Barrett was recast because she was having an affair at the time with Gene, and the producers wanted to avoid appearances of nepotism. Ricardo absolutely was that ripped. He, throughout his life, kept himself in remarkable shape. Didn't know Alaxander Siddig was Malcom McDowell nephew. Wild.
Ricardo Montalban had been a major Mexican, and American "Artista" (Actor) since the 1940's. He was a personal friend to William Shatner. He was always well-built due to his dramatic action/acting roles, however none had ever called for him to be bare-chested as much as his W.o.K. character, Khan Noonian Singh. He did an Entertainment Tonight interview that aired in the early 80's where he was asked "point blank" if his chest in that movie was prosthetic. He responded heartily, but humbly that he had to do "quite a lot of push-up's to get into that kind of shape". Of course he then reported back to work at "Fantasy Island" as the well mannered & fully dressed Mr. Roark, and then, on to a prime-time soap, "Falcon Crest". Hats off, and Muchos "Saludos" to Don Ricardo Montalban.
Yes, all hail to Roddenberry for creating ST, but if I'm honest, his writing was marginal at best... There was no character development in ST until he was gone. All the characters were 2 dimensional and his plots very predictable... After his death, TNG became a much more enjoyable show to watch. Pardon my blasphemy, but that's how I see it.
Some people actually cannot separate actors from their characters (i.e. real vs. fiction). Many actors have gotten hate dumped on them as well as death threats for something their fictional character did in a production.
"Majel Barrett didn't have acting chops." You can say that again! She's fine with one-liners, but I wouldn't give her anything more. She's great as Deanna's mother, but did you see the episode where she "cried" over her dead daughter? It was CRINGE!!!!!!!!!!!
I personally thought Khan's chest was fake. not because I didn't think the actor couldn't pull it off but because 1) it was too clean shaven, 2) too uniform in coloring as opposed to the rest of his makeup, and 3) the necklace he wore never really moved which is a standard Hollywood means to coverup the seam for a prosthetic. So, yeah, Makeup artist on set, you did a crap job. You made real flesh look fake SHAME!
