What about when Carnage gets so annoyed that Deadpool can track him despite his attempt to be chaotic and random that Carnage goes back to his cell and just sits there??
Matthew Seaman That wasn't as much quitting as it was waiting. He himself says he's gonna get right back to it as soon as he could he sure he was in control again (aka when the writers weren't focusing on him.)
Yeah, if I sat down at my local fast food joint and my burger had a gun, I'd think, "Hm. You don't have fingers to pull the trigger. You probably don't even know that you have to pull the trigger to fire it. But I am getting the f*** out of here."
@@maliciousbliss2066 I mean Lex is actually a pretty decent dude overall. His goal is to protect humanity. He is just so insanely Xenophobic and greedy that it really gets in the way lol. There is alot of alternate universes where hes like the best dude ever.
Okay here's the thing that's literally not cowardice. You're looking at Galactus actions from the perspective of a person who knows that Reed doesn't know how to use the Nullifier and wouldn't even if he did. Galactus does not have the knowledge that you do. 1) He knows that's the nullifier and what it does 2) He knows that if used correctly he'll die. If used incorrectly the Universe dies. 3) This being holding it is going to either die, kill Galactus, or kill the universe and die. Only one of those actions is good for Galactus two outcomes are bad for him. You suggest it's cowardice to not call the bluff of a man who will absolutely die if he doesn't do what he says he's going to do. I say it's educated self interest. He's as old as the Universe he's undoubtedly seen the levels of desperation living beings reach to survive. His choice is the only smart one.
Well done Sir. It's like Universe full of other planets that I can go snack on or, die/universe dies which means I die.... I'll bugger off because this dude is crazy and could actually kill us all. Good choice. Cowardice is not what I would call it either.
Also, Reed Richards did, in fact, know what the device was, it's importance, and how to use it. Was it not Richards who identified it within the collection of the Watcher? Amidst all the other devices, he knew that one item was possibly the only thing there that could scare Galactus. Galactus rebuked him, claiming he was an ignorant child, but both were fully aware of the situation at hand.
@@WingedCrusade MOST of the villains deserve a better life,most of them are villains because of how their life was before they decided to "turn evil" and start killing people and bla bla bla evil stuff,you people know what I mean and I don't need to explain it.
to be fair galactus wasn't being a chicken, he was saving the entire known universe from the threat of a madman who wielded powers he could not comprehend.
@@youngmoney4693 It's simple cost benefit analysis. What does he have to gain from winning? One meal. What does he have to loss? ... Yeah... He can just find another planet, there is no need to risk yourself for this specific one.
Not at first, it took until I wanna say the late 70's for writers to go "wouldn't it be more interesting if he wasn't just another greedy bank robber?" I believe it started in Marvel Two-In-One where he went to a bar with the Thing and just kinda... talked out his problems.
He'd done it too. Even joined the Avengers before he got his brain 'reset' by the Wizard. Kind of sad they never bothered to help him the same way they jumped all over the Superior Spider-Man, to be fair they were right in that latter case but still.
Actually, It's a super liability, since he can't survive long-term, at a temperature above freezing, without the technology which keeps his Body Temperature in the double-digits BELOW zero. This is the result of a mistake his superior made, trying to shut down his research, while he was attempting to use cryogenics to preserve his wife's life, while he searched for a cure! Later in his life, however, she was CURED, and, since Freeze was reported Dead, she was allowed to think so. However, by THAT time, cumulative damages had reduced Mr. Freeze to a head, confined to a robotic body/support system! The guy just CAN'T seem to catch ONE break!
Look up Heroes With Issues, it's a very funny youtube fan series about a psychiatrist who helps comicbook heroes and villains with their psychological trauma.
How about the fact that Fin Fang Foom, formerly one of Iron Man's and The Fantastic Four's greatest enemies, became a buddhist and essentially retired from villainy. These days, he just wants to be left alone to tend to his farm and/or run his restaurant in New York.
X-men's Rogue, movie version Storm, Gambit, Maxima, Catwoman, Piccolo, Buu, Vegeta, Hiei, Kurama, psychic kid with blonde wig from Mib Psycho 100, Hawkeye for the most part, Vision (i think), quicksilver and scarlett witch (generally)...
"Galactus promises never to come to Earth again" He's also not very good at keeping promises. Though, to be fair, every time he's broken that promise he had a reason.
@@TenebrisTemporis There's still that one time (although it's not Earth 616) in MvC3 where he showed up to destroy both the Marvel and Capcom earths in order to prevent a universal cataclysm and it just so happened that the way he was going to do so was by eating them.
I love that whole interaction of Flash just casually talking to a member of his rogues gallery and casually convinced him to A) take his medication B) turn himself in And C) rat the other guys out. Granted that last one he did because they kicked him out but still
@@MunchoGhen Batman the Brave and the Bold had an episode where the Rogues thought Flash was dead and they just grew depressed and bored to the point they were happy that Flash finally returned to beat them up. I imagine that except Flash never comes back and life just gets worse for them.
At the end of her first own comics series Harley Quinn institutionalizes herself, because she realizes that she is insane and should be locked away in Arkham. She even stays there quite some time.
Mr Freeze's wife finally died despite all of his efforts to save her. Saving her was why he needed money and resources, thus his villainy. His motive was gone and he effectively had no more reason to be a villain. I've always felt sad for Freeze
Didn't the Human Torch also go mad from some kind of revelation on the way back a la Lovecraft? I remember him saying something along the lines of "We're just ants! ANTS!"
Mr Freeze is one of the most heart breaking villains for me. All he really wanted in the end was to save his life but kept getting dealt a shite hand that forced him to slowly throw away everything he was besides a brilliant scientist, and the goal to save his wife.
Wrong. Instead, it's The Batman who Laughs that looks like Judge Death. Death is a WAY older character. Like Decades older. Both are very similar though, pretty obvious where DC took the idea from. They basically ripped the concept off in its entirety!
This is why I love Mr.Freeze. He was a villain that had more motivation than greed or chaos or power. His best interpretation shared by a majority of his incarnations was that he wanted to cure the love of his life. But to do this, he needed to perform many experiments which requires resources of many different sorts, hence committing atrocities. Not the best leap in logic, but the most fleshed out of all the villains Batman has. Some of these incarnations even involve him adopting a temporary support role for Batman because it’s a means of ensuring Nora’s health and safety.
I never thought Felicia(Black Cat) would do the selfless act of taking Lizard's son out of a sewer tunnel and walking him home, and then staying to help the wife get adjusted to their new life. Maybe we misjudged her. Maybe she isn't all that bad.
The only villain I’ll feel bad for is scarecrow. Dude was tortured by his mother, bullied by children, he just had a hard life. I’d justify his actions, and also maybe black manta’s. Maybe.
ARealCupcake I may be late to your post, but Judge Death was invented in the 1980’s long before Batman who laughs was invented, so they ripped off d.c for ripping them off.
I want more villians to quit and turn their life around. Imagine Mr.Freeze joining the bat family. Or how about the Joker's laugh echoing throughout the batcave. Gotham redemption series, one where Gotham city gets a big step towards becoming peaceful, one where Batman can finally rest.
I prefer the Joker comic where he thinks he actually kills Batman. No longer having his 'other half', he becomes sane, quits crime, finds love, moves out to the middle of nowhere with her, and becomes a decent person. Then, the insanity returns when he learns that batman returns and he struggles so hard fight the insanity because he wanted to stay good and stay with his wife but ultimately fails.
Can you imagine fighting your enemy for months and then all the sudden he says' yeah I'm done'😂 Hero: why don't u just surrender! Villan: ok Hero: wait u can't do that
@@punkwrestle True, but since Marvel incoporates a sliding timeline, he's in his early 30s now. It's one of the reasons why I love Spider-Man: Life Story so much, you get to go on this decades spanning-journey with Spider-Man and the ending is great.
What about that time Slade quit after failing to save his death son (by the teen titan) by stealing the speed force from Wally West (kid flash) to go back in time to save his son (also stop by the teen titan).
I wish you include the Starman series in your lists, It had two Villains who quit the business, Bibbo, a superhuman gangster who after getting out of jail was going to rob a bank just to be thrown back in but instead got a job at the bank and the Shade, a major supervillain who decided to give up his evil ways when he fell in love with one of the family of cops who work with Starman
Considering that they were probably gonna rape and kill every man in town and they murdered every woman in town....... I wouldn't exactly call this a disproportionate punishment for them.
Whoa, is that the White Rabbit at 11:22?? One of the sadly most underused babes (I mean female villains) in Marvel.... Seriously, she had potential to be a female Kite Man of sorts....
Um, title failed. Run out of ideas? Also, Reed Richard is specifically stated to know exactly what the device was and how to use it, in fact, he chose it himself.
i love ml bb Agreed. The Marvel multiverse has over twenty trillion, while the DC multiverse has… who knows how many thanks to reboots and retcons. Heck, the Marvel multiverse has trillions of possible futures that branch out from the main Marvel universe, while the DC multiverse has a linear future and a branched future from the main DC universe. Even the main Marvel universe has a cohesive continuity than the main DC universe because it involves knowing what happen to its own characters like fitting pieces of the puzzle, while the main DC universe would spend over or under a year trying to explain something that would result in making everything worse. Also, Marvel has a sliding timeline that lasted 23 years including the ones that lasted in real time from 1961 (seven years of real time from 1961 to 1968 and 16 years of sliding time from 1968 to 2020), while DC has a sliding timeline that lasted 27 years since their start in the Silver Age in 1956 (ten years of pre-crisis from 1956 to 1985, ten years of pre-flashpoint from 1985 to 2011, and seven years of post-flashpoint from 2011 to 2020). Sorry if I’m an rambling too long about all of this. I just really want to say something about it.
That crisis stuff is just a redoot on continuity meaning each continuity has its own cannon (and thanks to rebirth post crises and new 52 are now connected). As of now dc has diffinitive 52 earths and a dark multiverse with about 7 that actually matter. Marvel has way more earths than dc but they don't reboot so comics from way back in the 60's (if not retconed) are still cannon.
ohyehbaby 3o5 I respect your opinion, but I like to think that the main DC continuity is the same from pre-crisis to pre-5G (i.e. Earth-Two, Earth-One, New Earth, and Prime Earth).
10:43 I have that same laptop! This dam thing can keep up with a good deal of current-gen computers--if you're willing to invest a bit in upgrading, but it's worth it!
Joker was also sane for a bit in the wonderful "Going Sane" story arc. He settles down and becomes an accountant. It's in Legends of the Dark Knight 65-68 (not sure if there's a collected version).
personally I dont like the way Fantastic Four defeated Galactus, because his presence and powers were so underwhelming there. I much prefer Galactus from Silver Surfer show. In this one he finds earth on his own and start devouring it, and theres this big sense of scale as he suck the planet dry and everything is nothing but insect to it. Silver Surfer had to rebel against him and use literal sun as power source to fight back, destroying what Galactus used to feed, and it barely fazed him. In the end Galactus himself gave up on earth, not because Silver Surfer beat him or because he was a coward, but because he lost his appetite. He left the earth alone as a parting gift for his servant, but also gave Silver Surfer one hell of a punishment. Now thats epic. In Galactus vs Fantastic Four, the sense of scale was so little and Galactus was really underwhelming. It was as if they gave him hundreds of not thousands nerfs just to make the story work.
What about the time the Riddler started his own detective agency? Before the New 52 the Riddler had reformed after curing himself of his obsession after a head injury and actually partnered up with Batman a few times to solve crimes. Not only that but he was good at it and became a better detective than Batman. As a former criminal he knew how criminals operated. Not only did he do a better job at protecting the city but he did it legally without needing to become a vigilante and assisted police and used criminal informants to help clean up Gotham. He was still egotistical and did it out of a need to show his superior intellect but he actually managed to make Gotham safer and he did it without wearing a mask.
Yeah, they shouldn't have reverted his character. Honestly they shouldn't revert any character. Whenever a hero and or villian actually accels at life, whether it be reform or gets married, don't ever take it away.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 I actually loved it when Batman and the Riddler teamed up and put their brilliant minds together. In the King Tut storyline which is one of my favorite comic storyarch's the Riddler offers to help Batman on his investigation by interpreting the riddles and clues a serial killer leaves behind. Batman doesn't trust him at first only for the Riddler to be proven right in his interpretation and Batman walked right back to the prison where the Riddler was being kept and negotiated his release. Batman the greatest detective in comics was stumped and was forced to take the Riddler along.
@@TheOneandOnlyCSG No he was interesting especially when he teamed up with Batman. The two greatest minds in comics actually working together added some much needed character development to the villain. He became an even cooler version of Batman and was an absolute badass. As a former criminal he knew how villains operated which made him the greatest detective in Gotham. It takes a criminal to catch one. A villain turned hero is much more interesting than a hero who fights villains. It was a nice change of pace.
Oh wow, its good to see a bad guy like Judge Death figuring out that he needs help and found it. (JD stabbing his psychiatrist in the chest to stop her heart) Well....that escalated quickly
Tiny dude with what looks like a stapler: HEY YOU! Galactus: h-huh? What me? Tiny dude: YEAH YOU! PISS OFF Galactus: why would I do that Tiny dude: uh shit I didn't think this through.... wait.. Tiny dude: WELL YOU BETTER PISS OF CAUSE I'LL USE THIS! "Waves stapler in the air" Galactus: AW SHIT *Galactus fled battle*
