10 Things I Hate About You - Shakespeare Month the Seventh 

"She's not tamed she is just loved". Great video!

"She is simply loved." What a lovely sentiment :)

I always liked Kat and Bianca's father. As over-the-top as he is, his behaviour always seems to come from genuine love and concern. I loved his line, "You're eighteen, you don't know what you want. You won't know what you want until you're forty-five, and even if you get it, you'll be too old to use it." Too true.

The pair who wrote "10 Things I Hate About You" would later go on to write another modernized Shakespeare adaptation, "She's the Man," based on "Twelfth Night."

Heath Ledger in Shakespeare? "Why art thou so serious?!"

When I was in my first semester at uni I had a professor who taught this play and INSISTED that Shakespeare was performing some kind of service for women by showing them how to behave because women during the English Renaissance were expected to be beaten for misbehavior. But given how even Shakespeare's CONTEMPORARIES reacted to Taming, and Shakespeare's own habit of writing active transgressive ladies, I was never able to buy it. Like, women in the Renaissance were treated badly sure but being beaten and starved and psychologically tortured was still not, cool? (A lot of sources she pulled from were Italian just so she could make her point.) Marriage should be a "meet and happy conversation" and all that. We also for that class went and saw a professional performance of it and Kate and Petruchio were played by a husband and wife couple, so they had this natural chemistry on stage that kind of lulled you into half rooting for Petruchio. They kind of played it towards the end as a tragicomedy where Petruchio and Kate bond through suffering because Petruchio isn't eating or sleeping either and they're both just descending into madness together. So when everyone makes fun of Kate and gives Petruchio their money he refuses to take it out of loyalty to her, and I feel like that's as close to redemption as you can get with that character while playing the material mostly straight.

Okay, new idea for a cartoon or webcomic: Shakespeare High. A high school full of Shakespearean characters. Hamlet is the goth kid. Macbeth is the ambitious student council president. Falstaff is the big, fat, Hawaiian shirt-wearing party animal. Puck is the class clown, etc. Stupid idea? Sure it is. But you know you smiled at the thought of something so ridiculous.

I always viewed the last speech as Kate simply telling Petruchio what he wants to hear so he'll let her be (which has nasty implications for her future on its own), but then again, I'm viewing it through the eyes of a 21st century student, not an audience member in Shakespeare's time.

"In case you hadn't known, they call her The Jackal." I saw this when it first aired, but only now, three years on, have I finally understood that reference. Cheers.

Note to self, make "Salingerian phonies" a part of personal vocabulary.

I've watched it numerous times already but I continue watching this video just because. Your analysis, the humor, "Doublet and hose, jerkwad", and I *love* this movie, and I did the Taming ending speech as part of a class assignment. I will bring up one thing. The guy playing Joey (being a bit of a nicer than expected guy) didn't actually know how to draw a dick, so David Krumholtz had to teach him how to draw one on the back of the lunch tray he's sketching the girl bod on.

The Shakespeare Retold Shrew actually does get around the difficulties of the play. But like this one, it's set in modern times, and the dialogue is almost totally different. It even finds a positive message, while still staying fairly true to the theme of the play. In fairness, Shaw had some good points about aspects of Shakespeare that suck, not just because he was more popular.

I always come back to this one. You have really interesting insights into stories, I admire and am entertained by it every time!

Taming of the Shrew sounds like an earlier version of Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange

I always think of the moon/sun argument from “Shrew” when I see bad Day For Night photography.

I think the key point for Taming Of The Shrew is the framing device. The entire story is being framed as a fiction even within the fiction being told by a bunch of jokers to a drunken idiot. With that in mind it's hard to see the concept as anything but a joke and certainly not Shakespeare putting across his own views on women. On another tack it is very hard for me to see someone who genuinely saw women like that also writing characters like Viola from 12th Night.

I think you're best jokes are the ones you treat as filler most of the time. Stuff like "Hoo boy!" or when you were using the photoshop filters and Take on Me started playing in the Nightwatching video.

Hmm, since Good Queen Bess was a patron of the arts and liked Shakespeare (probably more for his propaganda justifying her grandfather's war with Dick the third, I honestly don't know) maybe the play was a way of saying "look at how awful marriage is my liege. Don't do it, those bastards will try to rule you queeny!!" Course that probably wasn't it, but I can't help but wonder what her reaction to the play actually was. Oh my!

So, in the nearly 3 years this has been out, Shakespeare has added 255 more credits to his name

You should do she's the man for the next Shakespeare month! Love these ones!

I so enjoy your videos, this one was perfect. I haven't actually seen 10 things I hate about you because I so desperately try to avoid what I perceive to be typical romantic comedies, but you've made an excellent case for it and I might have to check it out now.

11:58 That’s a major difference between Sia Kate Furler’s abomination “Music” and Dana Terrace’s animated classic “The Owl House”. Where Music Gamble ends her story by becoming ‘normal’ and assimilating into neurotypical society, Luz Noceda becomes her best self by leaning into the different way her mind functions and ends up changing everything for everyone she knows on the Boiling Isles. Where Music is tamed, Luz is simply…loved.

Favorite movie ever period! Still holds up 18 years later

Could a movie that's more faithful to the play work as a very dark comedy? ha! i never thought of that before

The BEST adaptation of Taming of the Shrew is 1981 New York Shakespeare In The Park's production starring Meryl Streep and Raul Julia. Kiss Me, Petruchio is a documentary that covers it and BOY HOWDY is it hot and funny and lovely. There is a fire and passion because Raul Julia brings his Puerto Rican and Spanish roots into how Patruchio handles Katherine, and the moments of _softness_ or *unity* between the two. Streep goes ALL OUT with her temper tantrums but you get a sense that no one competes with or matches her and it drives her nuts, so when Petruchio comes along and challenges her, matches/channels/is unaffected by her energy, there this underlying wildfire between the two that challenge each other. The documentary has the actors talk about what the characters are feeling about the whole thing, and Mr. Julia's commentary is wonderful and heartwarming, that he sees this rage as a mask she doesn't know how to take off, and doesn't feel comfortable taking off on her own for whatever reasons. I relate a LOT to Streep in that version, for how shrill and shrewish she can be, it's like living your whole life like a balled fist, you can't unclench or you fear you'll die, and what you need is someone who can show you they they've _got you._ that they can _hold you, protect you, match if not surpass you, so _*_you don't have to fight ALL THE TIME ANYMORE._* Many people in sexually submissive relationships often have jobs or careers where THEY are the authority and dominant one, and they achieve pleasure and happiness from _releasing control_ onto their partner, and let someone *_they trust completely_* make the decisions for once. While also being bratty or teasing or fiery in everyday life. And their Dom is someone who also needs control in their life, probably came from a background where they felt little to no control at all, and now that they have it, they don't want to let go. But they meet that understanding with the idea that other people are living breathing human beings with feelings and wants separate to their own, and finding the right Dom/Sub is VERY important. I get the feeling that Katherine and Patruchio could be a very healthy, beautiful, and loving discovery and exploration of a Dom/Sub relationship (better than 99% of erotic thrillers out there, like 50 shades) You just gotta maintain that playfulness and passion.

I. Love. This. Movie.

i know this is old as but just wanted to say good video, i love this series! taming of the shrew was one of my favourite shakespeare works i studied in school, even if it's far from my favourite play. it's definitely misogynistic and there's no way to interpret that away, but when we were studying it we did talk a lot about irl shrew taming practises (which were even more horrific than the play's abuse) and the broader social context and it really helped me see it in a new light (as with merchant.) because of that, i think there's some interesting subversion present in the text itself that doesn't even need the broad-wink performance take on it. at any rate, whatever the intent was and however it was taken back then, i think modern adaptations do it right by removing those toxic elements and paring it down to a very simple, as you said, they tame each other without nasty power dynamics/abuse/misogyny/etc.

10:50, um you mock the high school cow boys, but this was filmed in Washington state. Teenage cowboys in the mall were real. (I doubt they had their ropes on school campus like that though.)

I would love to see a review of "She's the man".

I always thought Heath Ledger's character in this movie was a feminist himself, the complete inverse of the chauvinist Petruchio. He gets hired to take her out because he has a reputation for being insane, and the other guys think he's the only guy tough enough to brave Kate, but it's shown that he's actually quite normal.

My English teacher's interpretation of Kat's shrewness was a chicken or the egg scenario Was she a shrew because her father played clear favorites or did her father play favorites because she's a shrew

Hm.... In the Big Bang Theory this was stated as Leonard and Priya's favorite play. I wonder if I should be concerned or if the writers just chose a random play for them to like?

There is a brazilian soap opera based on these play called "O Cravo e a Rosa" and it is about a farmer trying to tame a rich girl. Its really misoginistic but at the same time uses brazilian archtypes of caracteres insted of Shakespearian so is good to watch.

I remember reading a Italian Donald Duck comic that was adaptation of Taming of the Shrew. In it Scrooge McDuck was the shrew, and Birgitta MacBridge was Petrucio. I remember it being funny as hell, but that was about 15 years or so ago.

I almost cried again!

So I've seen 2 productions of the Taming of the Shrew. One was pretty classical so I believe it wasn't well met but I was 7 so I can't tell you what it really was. The other one is probably one of the best interpretations of the play using the original text that has been produced. It was a punk S&M Shrew. The main relationship had both characters decked out in leather, while being more playful about the situation... I can't remember how the final speech was done but I imagine it was played for irony with "obedience" being more about sex then matrimony. But if your plays needs punk rock and BDSM to make it seem slightly culturally acceptable then you wrote a bad play.

5:00-5:05 Oceania has always been at war with East Asia.

Shylock is a video unto himself, really.

Dude . your most recent video has me binging on your old shit. God bless your soul. Dou you have a podcast?

10:46 - If you lived in The South or Midwest you saw that shit. Still do, to be honest.

SOOOO happy you got Moonlighting in there!!! I mean, Bruce Willis does Shakespeare!? Who'd a thunk it?

So I've watched this video many times but I didn't realize until now that the plot seems a bit similar to a fairytale I grew up with, I know it as König Drosselbart but in English it's apparently King Thrushbeard.

"My ox, my ass, my every thing" - famously quoted by Barry White

why is fedora used in association with both mra's and white knights?

A version of Taming that I'd be kinda intrigued to see, would be a kink-based one. Think about it, the whole original play is about power dynamics between husband and wife, and how women should totally be submissive to their men. In a modern context, that could.be framed as kinda kinky. Imagine a version of the story where Kate submits to Petruchio not because of being browbeaten into submission against her will but, say, submission is a secret kink of hers and she's just too stubborn or aloof to allow any man to dominate her if she feels he wouldn't be dominant enough to do it. Enter Petruchio, who is big, tough, a bit mad and eager to dominate and Kate finally sees in him a man strong enough to give her the dom/sub fantasy she has secretly craved. So she allows herself to be 'tamed', not as her being browbeaten or tortured into submission, but to indulge in her kink of being dominated, and Petruchios desire to dominate her. Then at the end her big speech is essentially a farce, making her family believe that she has actually been tamed and made docile, when in reality she and Petruchio are basically living out a mutual longterm dom/sub fantasy together.

this is a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine I think

Sorry, but something important is overlooked in the Moonlighting clips. Petruccio is usually (always?) pronounced with KH rather CH

I love this movie so much

The Shrew is the Play, the Play is the Thing, and the Thing is an excellent remake by John Carpenter.

I’m surprised you didn’t watch McLintock, which does “Taming of the Shrew in the Wild, Wild, West”. Good luck and have fun. Did I mention it was directed and starring John Wayne?

I watched a Comedia dell'Arte version of the play, here on RU-vid, and it really worked. They were able to make it funny, and they were able to turn everything into a bunch of sarcasm as the "shrew" had tamed the tamer.

I still listen to both soundtracks "Romeo + Juliet" and this one!

"So I'm thinking about getting a Tercel. Yeah, that's a Toyota."

Daria!

I like the interpretation I saw on Not Always Learning - Petruchio and Katherine are indulging in a bit of dom-and-sub play, and this is the Shakespearean 50 Shades of Gray.

I miss Heath Ledger so much. His eyes had a little green in them 😢

This movie rules!

Wait... does this mean The Hottie and the Nottie is a version of The Taming of the Shrew?

Jolly Bee worker: Sayians are real

Well when kyle came to the merchant of venice Which the bard most rascit thing the bard or marlowe wrote

5:48 How about "questionable"? Or "creepy"? Or "*the sensation of grossness*"?

HAHA I love this guy omg

They fall in lurv...

7:09 George Bernard Unabashed-Fanboy-of-Adolf-Hitler Shaw has no business lecturing ANYBODY on morality.

I honestly can't tell if this is worth watching.

Is O a good movie? It only got 64%.

just watched 10 things last night. So f***ing good

Good damit I really liked Julies Styles

My high school sophomore class read this play. Half of us, including me and the teacher, didn't take it seriously. I remember writing a paper about how the play is so over the top and absurd that it is obviously a satire of these kinds of attitudes. Even a lot of the more sexist authors weren't this...overt, and Shakespeare still receives a lot of feminist analysis because he was more liberated from the sexist conventions of his time. The text can't be taken seriously.

really pointless question: did you change it from "douchebag" to "jerkwad" or am I misremembering?

I've always been able to overlook the fairly...um...traditional views of women in The Taming of the Shrew by remembering that the play itself is farcical. By the play itself being a comedy, I can immediately assume that all the ludicrous things in the play are similarly as ludicrous to the audience then as it is now. It's like if you dissect romantic comedies and figure out that every character is a shitty shitty person, but is probably intended to be that way for comedic effect.

Wow this could be worst then lost boys version

the Public Theater in NYC did a version of Taming of the Shrew that had an all-female cast!

I guess he's never been to the Pacific Northwest, lots of white Rostifarians.

Oh, how I loved that episode of Moonlighting. Oh, how I loved Moonlighting, period.

Well, at least it's not an adaptation with Othello without any of its classic lines. Heck, if there's one play that's unknowingly quoted more than Taming of the Shrew...

Quite suddenly I realize another 20th century media piece that could have taken inspiration from TotS: Anyone here ever see "Overboard?" It's one of those "romantic" "comedies" from the 80s (I think) that becomes super disturbing when held up to modest scrutiny.

"And no, even in Shakespear's time, this was probably not okay." Actually, from what I've read, this was written at a time when women were just starting to be considered actual people and not property, so Kate being humiliated into obedience was, at the time, the LEAST controvertial thing about the play. Im not sure if that makes it any easier to stomach, though.

the taming of the shrew sounds pretty similar to the story of the joker and harley quinn. Never really thought of them as shakespearian

I watched a claymation version of The Taming of the Shrew in an animation class. It was way better than this "piece," yet I can see why there are fans of this.

Taming of the Shrew can’t be redeemed. And neither can Shylock. Sorry.

The movie was hilarious but I was offended by the feminist lead and the racist teacher

Shrew is not a misogynist play; Petruchio and Kate simply symbolize reason and emotion. Not a man and a woman! And this play is not tough to get right in performance, all the versions I have seen (all the ones released on disc) are triumphantly funny (unlike 10 Things..., which is average and vulgar, except for Julia Styles who's always great)! Check out the 70s one with Marc Singer, done in commedia dell'arte style! Genius! Also, Shrew should be put into a proper historical context and perspective. In her 1958 essay, "Dramatic Role as Social Image: A Study of The Taming of the Shrew", Muriel Bradbrook points out that, before Shakespeare, it was traditionally the shrew who triumphed in these kinds of plays. Since antiquity or before, women in fiction were endowed with fearsome passions, as Greek drama overbrims with, and it is not until the Renaissance that the symbolical representation of uncontrollable passion begins to become subject to the controlling influence of a rational worldview. Which is what Shrew is actually about. In this sense, as in many others, Shakespeare was in fact a trail-blazer who helped introduce reason and its civilizing influence as a highly specialized dramatic representation, and The Taming of the Shrew can be held up as a defining and pioneering example thereof.