I love watching motogp riders they're in tune with their bikes on another level and the bike is simply just an extension of themselves. I know this applies to many other sports/motorsports but its so prominent in this case
One again Mike, you smashed this one. No matter how much I think I know there’s always so much more to learn. Like I knew about scanning back, it’s something I do in cars, but didn’t know the why, it’s just something I do. And getting the bike upright I learned in a hurry on a very wet track day (instructors saying “Yeah, just keep the bike upright” and the few who had stayed going “Uhh… ok”) but the how is like a revelation. Going to try the mantra thing before going on the commute tomorrow (“Just don’t crash, just don’t crash”).
I feel like I accidentally learned scanning back when driving because I look far ahead but it feels physically harder for me to focus my eyes scanning from near to far than far to near
@@opticalecho119 that might be because of the amount of information involved. With scanning back you've already discounted superfluous information from the scene, it's the details that stood out you're checking. The reverse, you'll see more fine detail but then you have to reprocess everything from scratch
I did the look ahead scan back thing subconsciously since I started riding and it always annoyed me because I thought you had to be constantly looking way in front and I could never get it. But now I know that it might not be that bad. Great vid Mike.
I have a theory. They have speed input wheelie control. So the wheelie control is less at lower speeds to allow the front wheel to hover. Not having to push the front wheel until closer to top speed could help acceleration. Then at higher speeds above like 160, the wheelie control kicks in and brings the front down
What an excellent summarization of TCRS; thank you! I've taken Champ U (and watched many sections over and over), and plan to attend the two-day school this coming fall. Your assessment is incredibly helpful, and you relay the info astoundingly well. For example, yesterday I went on an eighty mile ride after watching your video and practiced the rear brake immediately before front brake in corners. What a stabilizing affect that has -- thank you again for the invaluable content! ✌🤘
I like doing 'the move' on corner exits. I do it instinctively even when just watching an onboard camera on YT or TV, whether it's motorcycling or mountain biking.
Excellent info.if u naturally do this stuff already,i think no.10 is th secret edge.visualation is perfect ,th rest is follow thru,automatic..n stay loose
Now this is just what I was looking for. It’s fascinating how you may think you know these techniques well until you discover that the best riders do the same techniques with minor differences, yet crucial details that just makes them leagues better than you. Thanks for the video, I’ve tried the sample course and I think I’ll sign up for the online school; It’s a shame I’m in Thailand and cannot afford to travel…
I accidentally wheelied out of a corner yesterday for the first time. Came up to the point I was looking at the sky then I remembered there was a turn in under 4-3secs and that I have a front brake use it dummy so I hit my toe on it it came down I locked up the rear slid a bit and gave gas to make the turn 😅 legit pulled over afterwards and had to process hat I had just done because I didn’t even think I just acted and I was proud feeling but also felt stupid as well.
Good morning my brother as a old school rider i always try to learned more.verry verry good vedio and verry much needed infomation all around .i have ben watching your vedios for a a long time. Always impress with your contents .you be safe and take car❤👍
Just bought the online course with your code! Thanks so much for these videos. I don’t doubt they helped me not crash on tail of the dragon this past weekend lol
I own a vfr 800 with a Combined Brake System(CBS). I'm 28yo and i use the bike harder than it was supposed to be used. I've found that it is really stable under heavy braking. Rear end never gets off the ground. The part of the video mentioning the use of the rear brake, can explain my theory. From what i see in forums, people have a love-hate relationship with the CBS. Personally, i think it's awesome technology that makes the bike safer and as a result, faster while braking. What is your opinion on CBS?
A similar class is run at my old home racetrack being Phillip Island about an hour or two from my home city of Melbourne (depending on where you live in it). Although my racing days were in the 90’s, a lot of techniques have improved so after watching this I think I’ll book myself into one. Thanks for the video. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@opticalecho119 you mean the entrance to turn 4. Stoner was an absolute champion of his time. It’s interesting that I’ve possibly done more laps around the circuit in race conditions than he ever did. Just not in the same universe…. 😂
That's streets of willow. I've done thousands of laps around that thing. I took my very first ever racing school there back in 2003 with Keith Code's school.
Hi! I'm a bit puzzled about the viscoelastic explanation for smooth imputs. Usually this is explaned with suspension loading and weight transfer, which seams resonable. The viscoelastic explanation however, doesn't make sense considering we are talking about a rolling wheel. The rubber that is in contact with the ground when you start the braking/throtteling isn't the same as when reaching maximum, even if you smash the brake. If your contact patch is about 1dm long, which is reasonable on a motorcycle wheel under load, and you are going at 90km/h (25m/s) the rubber at the front will stay in contact with the ground for 4ms before leaving again. And 90km/h isn't that fast on a race bike at a track at the braking point. What I'm saying is, the rubber always experience load and force applied abruptly, regardless of your imputs. If you are in the middle of braking, a certain patch of rubber on the tire will go from zero load to full brake force in less than 1ms as it rolls down to meet the ground.
Number 8 is also a bit weird. The demonstration on a stationary bike is not the same situation as the dynamics when riding. In the demonstration, when the bike is pressed down the rear wheel rolls back a bit (the front brake is pressed). Rear brakes are then applied stopping the rear wheel from rolling forward when the springs push upwards, making the bike stay in place or go back slowly. But when in motion, the wheels roll and the distance between the wheels float and you lose this effect. Try it without locking the front wheel and the bike should pop right back up., albeit a bit slower since there is more mass to move (pulling the front back instead of just raising the rear). When in motion the front wheel is actually pushing back quite hard and will raise the rear almost immediatly, regardless of rear braking or not.
i am not a racer i only streed ride but learnd in the winter in the amsterdam with rain wind 120hpk -5c in the day riding over bridges that are white from frost etc and in the rain you to avoid things in the road like arrows ore pot holes so you learn to do a corner in all ways but again not racing just keeping road pase.edit wy i say this in those hard conditions riding cold below zero hard wind you have to sort of use stuff you use racing to that little more grip like hanging of a bit the bike can stay more upright so in extreme conditions i lean of a tiny bit so my bike can stay more upright nit trying to be rossi
Yep! In adverse conditions, you can be at the edge of grip even at a moderate street pace. That's why this stuff is important even if you never race or ride on track!
I took the yami course about 11 years ago and took champ U last fall. Lol should I or shouldn't I take champ school again....hmmmm decisions decisions lol
As champ school would say it, once you "have direction" (know you are pointed where you want to go) and are able to begin to take away lean angle from the turn, you crack the first 5% of throttle smoothly. Then, as Mike described here, once you are able to feel the grip you have with that first 5%, you can begin to open the throttle more quickly, and this is where you head drop--to reduce effective lean angle and increase grip to the rear tire, allowing you to open that throttle more quickly after the smooth initial onset.
S bends as a new rider 35 mph as an accomplished rider 85 mph really pushing. I lived in a town with a massive amount of motorcyclist. One guy should of been a pro GP rider, ( he was a agriculture mechanic) and never realised his mind-blowing skill. Me and the rest of the town was just motorcyclist. Ah fuck it I'm going to name him Steve Welford from east Grinstead West Sussex. A god
It would be a hilarious prank for a gp rider to attend the school. Imagine the instructor trying to film his ride from behind and he’s just saying…..seeeeya
Mike On Bikes - can I do your personalised ID racing tags please!? Would be an honour. I currently supply to The British Army Motorsport Team and No Limits Racing (UK largest racing group) Let me know man! 🙌
I had to quit road racing at 67 years old. Concentration wasn't what it needed to be anymore. Too many moments of brain farts. Too dangerous on a bike at those speeds.
DUDE ! These Pro Moto GP riders are thinking of what their having for dinner while racing !! It becomes natural after a while !! Your over thinking this BIG TIME !!
