10 TIPS FOR THROWING FLAT IN DISC GOLF (TESTED!)

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Hey! 😀
I asked you guys to help me out with the "throwing too high and with the wrong nose angle all the time" thing. As a beginner at disc golf I do this a lot. So I tested some of the most common tips you guys sent me and ranked them in this video (please note that this is just in the order the tips worked for me and I´m not saying one is better than the other). Do what works best for you in disc golf and life in general. Again thank you to everyone who sent in their tips! ❤🤘
Have a great day!😀
/Jonathan
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@Latitude64 Год назад

Do NOT press the link! 😘🤘 /Jonathan bit.ly/47CrPnG

@TheYetipk 3 года назад

This guy is legitimately one of my favorite personalities in disc golf, and my spouse and all my friends play...

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Haha thank you, Calvin!!! ❤🤘

@shanekitlas6995 3 года назад

I fully agree. Best vids in my opinion 👌

@DiscGolfHunter 3 года назад

I think it's time for you to play a round, film it, and show the world your progress so far. It's been fun watching you learn how to throw. Now let's see you in action.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Very much in the soon making :)

@johnshepherd6925 3 года назад

I agree!! With Thomas!! 😁🤣

@isivaasanaru5643 3 года назад

I second this.

@aox32 3 года назад

I was just going to ask for this. Let's see it Jonathan.

@docxen 3 года назад

@@aox32 yea he's gotten good very quickly

@bent.5687 3 года назад

"This is the everything is flat theory...except the earth." 😂😂😂

@loopedmess 3 года назад

Yeah that will draw them out of the woodwork

@aaronseidl5941 3 года назад

Kyrie Irving: and I took that personally

@robinraphael 3 года назад

the earth has it's own heizer effect... gee I wonder if you had a complete flat terrain how would your disc fly!? The hills and trees make for nhi ice wind up/down effects but on flat ground I've noticed the wind will affect your disc more then when in a wooded area

@ImperiusRexFilms 3 года назад

The thing I love about this series is that I’m literally out in a field yesterday going “ah…I’m too nose up and my disc is stalling out. I need to throw flatter and more level.” And then you drop a video addressing this within 24 hours of wishing for a video just like this! It really helps to see you as a beginner learning along with me. Keep up the great work, Jonathan!

@Latitude64 3 года назад

That´s awesome! Thank you 😀

@steveackerman5066 3 года назад

EMac certainly tells the truth. No one would Judge him for that... 😬

@drewclutes5585 3 года назад

i think i hate you for this

@jstaverage 3 года назад

I love you for this haha

@johnshepherd6925 3 года назад

I'm on the hate train 🤣

@loopedmess 3 года назад

So based on the evidence the verdict is mixed? I think I'm going to escape now,, bye.

@kellysmith9100 3 года назад

See yourself out...😆

@juxta706 3 года назад

7:45 - I LOVE your editing...these subtle things...perfect

@Latitude64 3 года назад

YES. Someone notice. Thank you! ❤😂

@zachkeene212 3 года назад

I know I'm late but I was just about to say I was searching for this comment that edit was so clean omg

@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад

When a guy who speaks English as second language and starts rhyming.. good job! You say some words better than some folks I know who only know English.

@adventureortiz 3 года назад

I would love to see more of your "custom stamp" art on discs. 😂

@docxen 3 года назад

who else thanks we need a DGAM crossover and have Danny critique Jonathan's throw?

@-b1ghorn087 3 года назад

Jonathons signature throw=the flat earth theory through

@willvwill2919 3 года назад

Stumbled on these videos when I started a month ago. It’s really refreshing seeing someone closer to my level trying to figure issues out rather than pros telling you tips to try. Can really see relatable issues and fixes. Keep up the good work!! Maybe we’ll both throw well someday

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Glad you like the video Quinn! /Jonathan

@jerryclyde1 3 года назад

I like the straight across flat technique. It’s definitely an easier way to keep the most consistent throws. I practice this by holding the disc with both hands out in front of me as I do x-step and then pulling back to throw. Helps get a good idea of how your body needs to be during throw to make disc flat.

@mrslowdrivingman2426 3 года назад

As always, you guys have the video on the things I'm struggling with! Will put it to test straight away!

@anthonyseng8715 3 года назад

Awesome video! Learn everything, keep what works for you.

@kyleshollenberger4338 3 года назад

What I love here is that you are actually showing your own experience with all the tips and tricks that you find when you go down the disc golf tutorial rabbit hole on the internet. Beginners like us are seeing you and discovering it with us. Totally relatable. Love. It. Thank you, Jonathan!

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Glad you like it, Kyle 😀 /jonathan

@bradglass3655 3 года назад

One of the things that has helped me the most came from Philo Brathwaite. He said to try to put your hand in your back pocket after your follow through. If you are level, it is easy. If you are off axis, it feels awkward.

@ericshepherd5788 3 года назад

Love the videos... I have learned alot from your videos being new myself still can't throw a sidearm and I watched many videos including yours a few times. I just wanted to say thank you these videos help alot.. have a wonderful day and always forward progress 🥏🥏🥏

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Hey, Eric. This made me really happy. Thank you and have a great day! /Jonathan

@kmilldiscgolf6118 3 года назад

Very good examination! Thanks!!!!

@MRCRAZYSCOTTY Год назад

The Flatt is definitely a great guide to keeping it straight and flat. But also watch yourself throw, you tend to lean backwards when releasing. Try finishing more forward. Also, the moving over the thumb more inward helps you get a little more turn out of your disk and keep it from fading out soo fast.

@MSFB4EVER 3 года назад

Pure gold! Love these videos!

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you :)

@Yankees177 2 года назад

Yeah out of all the videos ive watched these two are the best! I also agree with the flat everything as a new player who chucks it high all the time. Jonathan is one of those guys who you want to be best friends with!

@Latitude64 2 года назад

Thank you, Terry :)

@SwollenGoat68 3 года назад

The Barista was my aha moment in controlling nose angle, it feels weird when you start practicing it but quickly becomes second nature.

@Beaglefaust 3 года назад

The last two tips are things I consider fundamentals. If you're throwing a spike Hyzer, nose-up approach, or roller, then not so much. Obviously it varies. But for the majority of throws.

@Yrian96 3 года назад

@@Beaglefaust It is kind of the same with different angles i think, you just take the "everything flat barista theory" and angle your torso to match the desired angle, sort of. Except for short nose up shots like you said.

@SwollenGoat68 3 года назад

@@Yrian96 Exactly, run up direction and body angle at release combined with the barista will work for 90% of all backhand throws.

@frantzh5797 3 года назад

What worked for me and I learned in one of the Pro players teaching videos was simply to have the little bump at the bottom of your index finger on top of the rim so the disc goes in the crack and then you make sure it goes under that little part on the bottom of your finger/start of palm and since then I've had a few good ace runs and got an ace with my putter on a straight 50m hole

@ilikesnow Год назад

Flat Everything is the best advice hands down.

@MultiElmers 3 года назад

moving thumb to the center of the disc helped me a lot. not just for throwing flat, but even with the power of my shots. needed a little bit of time to get used to it tho. :)

@DnB123abc 3 года назад

As allways another fantastic video......

@rexsmith1698 3 года назад

The most entertaining DG instructional video I have seen in some time. LoL at the "I fart" joke.

@HelCatmonk 3 года назад

looks good. i like too watch i have played disc golf for over 2-3 years and i have always played as an Forehand but this year i will get the tip´s you get and try it also and focusing on backhand . ty for the video

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Hoping it´ll go well. Let me know if there´s some backhand type of videos you´re missing on the channel :). Have a nice day! /Jonathan

@deadtigerworld 3 года назад

Great as always dude. I'd agree that focusing on keeping the disc flat and also slowing down the windup at first are both very important. Try to only focus on one new thing to try when you go out and practice or it can become to overwhelming.

@mortenknudsen9155 3 года назад

I absolutely love you guys videos :D you're so entertaining. Snygt !

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Tack tack :)

@dirtypotato7269 3 года назад

as a beginner this does bring a smile to my face

@jstaverage 3 года назад

One of the best ways I learned to keep the disc low was after someone told me to make sure my arm follows through on the same angle i want to release. Pretty much the same thing as the keep everything flat idea, but really focusing on the follow through helped me keep everything nice and flat.

@snikwahjets 3 года назад

Loved the outro music 👍

@roguesith94 3 года назад

Jonathan has to be one of the most relatable beginner disc golfers ever. Love the videos

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you, Daniel :) /Jonathan

@YoungOneJim 3 года назад

I found ghe thumb on the edge of the disc with a bit more pinch helped me a lot with release, maybe not hight but having a reall consistent release with a satisfying finger snap 🤔

@walroz87 3 года назад

Another chill and helpful video - straight to the point - Jonathan is my go-to discgolf guinea-pig :D Great job I will take these to the field and try them on my cloudgazer friends :D Thanks brother !

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Glad you like the videos. Have a great day! /Jonathan

@walroz87 3 года назад

@@Latitude64 Always love them brother - also nice hoodie - I will save up for one they look cool!! :D Have a good one Jonathan and keep up the great work buddy!

@bsmo9148 Год назад

This guy is a riot. I love his personality. :)

@Latitude64 Год назад

Thank you =)

@maxagnewalhagen1152 3 года назад

Definitely very funny content. Keep up the good work

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you :)

@1GreatLake 3 года назад

The one thing that helped me is to just make sure your wrist is straight during the whole motion. A lot of throwing too high (for me) was nose angle. Keeping the wrist straight helped to keep the disc straight.

@EricJenkinsDiscGolf Год назад

Eric McCabe whoever that is 🤣 couldn't even make it through it without laughing. Good stuff

@juanr.rodriguez3109 3 года назад

Dude. You are killing it, and sound very scientific. Keep it all flat and let the discs do the work. I will give you two thumbs,,,up…keep on keeping it real.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Cheers, Juan!! 😀

@Noxictyz 3 года назад

Haha we want more of your journey mate. You rock!

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Cheers :)

@keithblack7319 2 года назад

Picked up some tips but really liked the humor!

@stuartferguson8967 3 года назад

The first low reach back and the flat is flat approach both lowered the release point of your throw to rib height rather than shoulder height on most of your throws. Your normal throw pulls the disc across at chest height then lifts the disc 15-20cm in the last 20% of the throw. resulting in you throwing upwards. Either lift your reach back and pull through up to shoulder height(this will be weird and limiting) or lower your release height so that your arm is pointing downwards rather than stright out at 90 degrees to your body

@D_Hans 3 года назад

I use the lamp technique to practice putting. Works like a charm!

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Great minds think alike!

@user-ko1qo7qw8r 3 года назад

8:04 omg you kill me man. Thanks for the video. It is funny and informative! haha

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Haha thank you!!! 😀😀

@RyanDaoust 3 года назад

Honestly on thing I did to help myself. Was to throw a bunch very low almost into the ground right in front of me. So I have the feel and muscle memory of that action.. and sense you already know how it feels to throw high and low your arm and body will start to find that perfect middle ground which will be flat.

@videosverigenu4621 3 года назад

Less focus on power and more focus on angle+followthrough works for me.

@Lankybrit52 2 года назад

Great stuff. Flat all the way sounds good.

@Dbagterp 3 года назад

Greetings from Denmark, and a fellow newcomer to discgolf.. I most certainly think you should do a video of trying out alternative throwing styles, grips and disc's.. 🤘

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Hey! Thank you for the idea 😀🤘

@DjMastola 3 года назад

I think #3 worked good, because I do the same fault in my form as you do. I move my hand above my shoulders in the reach trough and "swoop" "air bounce" the disc some times. Getting that high, nose up shot that just stalls out. But I'm working on it. Soon. When my Run Up is fixed.. Like maybe in July.

@H2OGirl2011 3 года назад

Love this! Can you think about showing how to throw up a hill without going up in the air, I.e. follow the contours of the hill and stay flat. Not sure I am saying it right…. Totally enjoy your videos.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

This is a good idea. Thank you :). Glad you like the videos.

@abelspekken3158 3 года назад

Just wanted to let you (Jonathan) know that I find Latitude's content the most watchable and fun Disc Golf tutorials/content I've seen on YT. Instead of someone telling you what to do, your "beginner" point of view really makes it feel like we're learning together. This, together with the humor and not taking yourself to seriously, makes me want to watch your videos as soon as they get out.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you so much, Abel. This made my day. Have a great day! /Jonathan

@abelspekken3158 3 года назад

@@Latitude64 And now you've made mine. What a great day-making day it is. If you ever find yourself touring Europe and disc golfing in the Netherlands, I'll gladly show you around :)

@Latitude64 3 года назад

@@abelspekken3158 That´d be awesome. Always wanted to go there!

@broderalias 3 года назад

Härlig video som vanligt! Måste skaffa mig den där fina tröjan :)

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Kul att du gillade den :)

@stephenuzzle9060 2 года назад

This dude is "THE SNAP" !

@DnB123abc 3 года назад

Maybe some slow mo throwing videos with you guys and your different techniques for tee/fairway/putt ? Incorporating the whole thing....footwork hip arm power pocket wrist ..... Whilst playing 9 holes.....

@Davidb0123 3 года назад

top 3 tipps were good, rest was not good ^^, great video!

@chiefschicktx Год назад

I'm glad you're s good as Ezra. 🤣

@shadowdancenz 3 года назад

I am a newbie with the same problem. I find my elbow on the final part of the pull through and throw goes from level and flat to slightly higher than my hand. It leads to then throwing high when I thought I had been flat through the entire pull through. The last bit wasn't. So I need to keep that flat and in line with my hand. Not easy to fix other than practice but I will get there :)

@lrla8657 3 года назад

Long last step, thumb tight, flat earther worked for me! Wow!

@lrla8657 3 года назад

Heading out tonight. I’ll be giving these a try! Thanks. #savethebirds #nomoreachingforthestars

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Let me know how it went :) /Jonathan

@reyalPRON 3 года назад

Hi :) Im new to this but old to physics. Im by far a good player but i think im pretty sure about how to "cure" elevation. If you were to think of you wrist holding the disc as an airplane. With the nose of the aircraft as the front of the disc, slightly tilting the wrist downwards upon release WILL change the elevation. Just as a change of the horizontal level achieves either heiser or anheiser :) As long as we are somewhat consistent with our swings and steps, the problem of "too high" goes away really fast.

@hacklemoose 3 года назад

This deserves some thumb. Brilliant tutorials with some attityd (attitude). You guys rule Terminalen.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Tack tack :)

@toffat6 3 года назад

I really like your slow approach I feel like I walk up to fast. Thanks for the videos

@Latitude64 3 года назад

I think it´s qus I can´t handle more speed atm. It gets all messed up.

@toffat6 3 года назад

I hear you I've only been playing a few weeks. I need to slow down it's a marathon not a sprint to throwing with speed.

@MonkeysFightingRobots 3 года назад

I want a designer fuse!

@docxen 3 года назад

2nd please tell me how much international shipping will be

@dylantorrance1291 3 года назад

You should do a dry run movement for every throw making sure you have the disc lined up on the line you want it before each throw. When you're doing that try run and you turn your shoulders your elbow should get to a point where it's bent at about 90 degrees and your forearm crosses your chest. The angle of your forearm here is the angle at which you're going to throw the disc. This has really helped me work on throwing down long steady declines and up smooth inclines because I can just put my wrist up or down relative to my elbow and match the grade of the hill. It should help you with keeping a disc level as well.

@cosmicdustparticle7481 3 года назад

Hello Lat64, when will you get more of the awesome Explorer Hoodies in Black as seen in this video? I love the design, but I wear a Medium size. I see why you are sold out ;) Keep up the good work I love seeing the growth of this company!

@Latitude64 3 года назад

They will be restocked in a couple of weeks :)

@videosverigenu4621 3 года назад

I think it's a good idea to make a video on some of the fundamental and most important rules of disc golf.

@waynejohnson7879 3 года назад

whoever that eric mccabe dude is. lol. love the content!

@daglazedonut1288 3 года назад

I would like to see more disc golf courses. The best way to get better is playing those courses.

@kirillzinin6179 2 года назад

Looking forward to your 1st (?) tournament ace :)

@Latitude64 2 года назад

Me too =)

@robertcasko281 3 года назад

Truly gifted impressionist. Sounded just like him.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Been practicing a lot! 😂

@davidm6387 3 года назад

What tightening your abs does is it helps your hips tilt into a stronger position, tightening your glutes at the same time strengthens the effect. People who spend a lot of the day sitting down tend to have poor hip posture from weak abs and glutes, and having this weakness makes disc golf much harder.

@1andonlyMiro 3 года назад

I literally have a Fuse that I have drawn the stamp on. The disc has about a matchsticks heads size of a piece of the original stamp left. It has seen some use. 😂

@virkkte 3 года назад

Hey Jonathan, can you make a video about throwing uphill and downhill? Thank you for the videos. They are a great resource for learning.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Adding this to the idea bank :). Thank you.

@Steventhrowsbirds 3 года назад

Working right now. I’ll be back for my review. Lol. Thanks for the Grace Proto Broto. 😇🙏🏻💪🏻🔥

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Haha sounds good. No problem, Tyler. /Jonathan

@Steventhrowsbirds 3 года назад

Best tip you can try. Lol. Pretend you have a ceiling above your head. Like you are throwing inside. Or under a tree.

@bjornkarlsson36 3 года назад

För jäkla bra att du visade alla tips som man får av att hålla den lågt!👍. Det är lite mer ballerina över dig nu oxå ser jag. 😀

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Haha mer ballerina för var dag. Det är ju målet! Haha 😂

@bjornkarlsson36 3 года назад

@@Latitude64 ja mitt knä gör inte ont längre så lite ballerina är det ju😀👍

@Latitude64 3 года назад

@@bjornkarlsson36 Så sjukt bra!! 🤘🤘

@TrzCharlie 2 года назад

"Everything is flat theory," except the earth. Love these videos.

@albertoquagliaroli4230 3 года назад

Some tips are to be used in the same action, I think. Nose down (basilar for midranges, fairway drivers, drivers), disc almost flat also in the reachback, upper body not inclined up or down, and exercising having a low ceiling of branches in front of you (we could say two meters away from the realise point, at the height of two meters more or less).

@Latitude64 3 года назад

I agree. I tried more tips than made it in the edit and thought the same thing. Wasn´t until I tried them I realized it tho.

@zacthompson1479 3 года назад

How do I get one of these fuses!? You guys should do a production run of them!

@zackjohns323 3 года назад

I’m gonna need you guys to restock those sweatshirts, please and thank you

@cmlasley 3 года назад

What is your favorite disc and why is it the Fuse? 😁

@Latitude64 3 года назад

😂

@alesmasarik4578 3 года назад

@@Latitude64 i think, so Fuse is for you too much understable, Claymore i think should be better, but that you know best.

@danlewis1885 3 года назад

@@alesmasarik4578 If JohnE McCray can throw a Fuse, I think Jonathan can. 😁 The Opto-X version would be best and it's a great hyzer-flip disc. Then he can bag a Royal Trust for something a little more stable.

@cmlasley 3 года назад

Whenever I throw my Fuses, people ask me, "What was that? It went so straight and just kept gliding!" It is certainly my favorite mold, especially on short technical courses or in the woods.

@Beaglefaust 3 года назад

@@alesmasarik4578 Why would he not carry both? If I have to throw a long turnover which doesn't fight out, I'm going Fuse. Versus into the wind straight, definitely want a stable mid. I carry seven mids from very overstable to very understable.

@joshhiginbotham1238 3 года назад

I just started like a month ago and I throw to the heavens and and my disc just over exaggerates it's movement. Gonna try some of these to keep my nose down and see if I can keep it down.

@levibennett5166 3 года назад

Your videos are pretty entertaining and your advice is solid. Keep it up! 👍

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you, Levi :)

@andreassrgaard9179 2 года назад

hei Jonathan . Could you do a simpel video on the different discs, who are over and understable, and how to tell when you buy them.... a little about the numbers on them, like for dummies you know.. keep up the great work. great and funny content, do more matches, really fun... GG man.

@Latitude64 2 года назад

Hey. yeah might go over this in a video in the future =)

@johnc4325 3 года назад

i find keeping my head down through the reach back and release allows me to throw further and straighter on whatever line and angle I’m trying to hit

@Nickeeefy 3 года назад

Same here, tried that today and could hold the line much better. But one problem was that reached back to low instead afraid hitting my chin so i released to low aswell like belly navel height i think you loose alot of power when pulling that low finding more snap closer to the nipple height.

@daboogy4543 3 года назад

Sick hoodie

@Latitude64 3 года назад

You can find them here if you're interested. I'd definitely size up as they're a bit small. I'm wearing a XL. /Jonathan store.latitude64.se/collections/hoodies

@zacharywagner1708 3 года назад

I love this , in order to throw flat just reach back and throw the disc flat🧐

@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Год назад

@5:25 the thumb thing works for me only at close approach with Putt or midrange.. not distance or power. If I have my thumb there it does weird unexpected things for driving.

@tjg555 3 года назад

I'd like to see more on choosing a putting style. I'm working on a KJUSA spreadie putt but I'm more used to a push putt. Not even sure how to do the spin putt or any of the turbo/scoober trick shots.

@Latitude64 3 года назад

We have some videos about putting. I´ll link them here :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-btkV2QgA0gw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ON_8y4AcAyI.html

@tjg555 3 года назад

@@Latitude64 nope, sorry, my putting still sucks. Need more. :D

@robinraphael 3 года назад

Hey buddy I'm about 2/3 in your video it's pretty good I would say you need to plant your last foot that you step with I'm pretty sure it is your right if you twisted it all you're going to lose power you need to rotate on your heel after you throw so you don't snap your ankle but seriously try planting your foot as best you can keep the disc close to your chest and Let it Loose

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you for the tip :)

@andysimmons8 3 года назад

Your videos are great. Don’t stop :) I’m completely fresh, and I need a laugh as well

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Glad you like them!

@CraigsCuts 3 года назад

The “pouring cup of coffee” for nose down angle is exactly the reason why Ezra pulls from low to high , as his disc rotates through the pull it is leading with the nose down . He has a video explaining it

@Earl961 3 года назад

Some things that have helped me are more about timing than the actual reach back or grip. Dont pull from the reach back. Pull it toward your chest slow and controlled before snapping it out, if that makes sense. Pay attention to your breath. Breathe in while you run up and exhale through your shot. Dont look anywhere that isnt where you want your disc to go. When youre running up make sure you focus on your aiming point the whole time or you can end up aiming at something else without realizing. I dont know if this helps at all but these are some things that have done a lot for me.

@jack-rudiknudsen6040 3 года назад

You can not have a good reachback and look forward at the same time.. Slow and controlled - yes, fast and powerful - no..

@Earl961 3 года назад

@@jack-rudiknudsen6040 I guess I wasn't that clear in what I meant. Look at your target until you start to reach back.

@discgolfamateur2175 3 года назад

Put your bag 30m infront of you and then try to hit it as hard as you can with your disc :-) Reach back low with a tilted wrist (look at eagle) also helps me thinks. Hard to tell on the camera but it might be that you throw high because you throw nose up? edit: it could also be that your weight is on your left leg when you are throwing. So, try to put all weight on right leg and remember to follow through with your arm on the same level that you want the disk to fly (eg not follow through with your arm over your head)

@Noxictyz 3 года назад

Jonathan btw. You did a very nice vid about history of disc golf. Can you make a history of Latitude 64? :)

@Latitude64 3 года назад

Thank you :) I'll put it on the idea list. /Jonathan

@Nickeeefy 3 года назад

Weight on the front foot before fireing with your arm? well its a must anyway but when i sucsess my shots are flat. Also the stiffed wrist pouring coffea thing works to if your really are focusing on it. also pull straight